Through the Wire

[osnap]

is an excellent song. Haven't blasted this shit in ages. :yes: its only like 4 years old, but it feels so throwback.

"somebody ordered pancakes, i just sip the sizzurp"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvb-1wjAtk4

too random for the entertainment section, so suck it. :tongue1:

[dohc4.6sc]

neg me if you want but kanye west truly sucks. one of the worst rappers of all time. if i met him i would have to punch him dead in his big ass nose. true story.

[osnap]

lol why would i neg rep you because of your opinion? i could care less lol. i dont think hes a very good rapper either, i just LOVE the chaka khan sample.

[dohc4.6sc]

didnt he say he should be in the bible or some shit like that?

[osnap]

hes an arrogant sunnuvabitch, no doubt. im luke warm with him as a (mainstream) rapper (if were gonna talk about rapper caliber in general hes garbage... im into more intelligent lyrical style hip hop), but i HATE him as a person. lol.

[dohc4.6sc]

hes an arrogant sunnuvabitch, no doubt. im luke warm with him as a (mainstream) rapper (if were gonna talk about rapper caliber in general hes garbage... im into more intelligent lyrical style hip hop), but i HATE him as a person. lol.

please enlighten me as to who has an intelligent lyrical style, im sure there are a few i cant think of right now but from 2000 till the present there will only be a hand full.

[osnap]

hmmm. aesop rock, blue scholars, jedi mind tricks, immortal technique, supreeme, atmosphere... etc are the guys who really float my boat. not all of them are necessarily "intelligent", per se, but they certainly go beyond the realm of "bitches and hos" style hip-hop.

[dohc4.6sc]

hmmm. aesop rock, blue scholars, immortal technique, supreeme, atmosphere... etc are the guys who really float my boat. not all of them are necessarily "intelligent", per se, but they certainly go beyond the realm of "bitches and hos" style hip-hop.

hmmmmm i havent heard of any of them. we are talkin rap/hip hop right? and btw i did think of one intelligent rapper IMO anyways, andre 3000.

[man]

What I find funny is the fact that these rappers (Kanye/Lil Wayne) come out and act all hard by cutting all emotion out of they're voices, but then they get huge and decide they can be themselves. Sounds like some pussy shit to me, although I guess that's what you gotta do to be successful in hip-hop nowadays. Everyone's scared to show their true colors.

Just compare these dude first albums to their later ones, they become completely different people, especially Wayne

[dohc4.6sc]

What I find funny is the fact that these rappers (Kanye/Lil Wayne) come out and act all hard by cutting all emotion out of they're voices, but then they get huge and decide they can be themselves. Sounds like some pussy shit to me, although I guess that's what you gotta do to be successful in hip-hop nowadays. Everyone's scared to show their true colors.


true but you gotta do what you gotta do to make some cash, i actually bought lil waynes cd and the songs are decent because of the beats but he is one of the biggest idiots in the world. granted he does have a wide vocabulary, but he just throws shit together that doesnt make since at all. the only truly good song on that cd is Tie My Hands. here is a link to the song, its a slow beat and has bobby valentino in it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpQtmZWf8-8

[osnap]

woah, seriously you've never heard of ANY of those? not even CLOSE to andre 3000 haha.

do yourself a huge favor and check these out, you might like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QvBg9XFZvY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qggxTtnKTMo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXAKOfk7_ho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbEwHJX95QE

[alpine_aw11]

hmmm. aesop rock, blue scholars, jedi mind tricks, immortal technique, supreeme, atmosphere... etc are the guys who really float my boat. not all of them are necessarily "intelligent", per se, but they certainly go beyond the realm of "bitches and hos" style hip-hop.

:yes:

Slug (Atmosphere rapper) is one of the best lyricists of our time imo. There's also P.O.S., Brother Ali is pretty good, of course MF Doom, Murs........

[osnap]

fuck yes.

[dohc4.6sc]

woah, seriously you've never heard of ANY of those? not even CLOSE to andre 3000 haha.

do yourself a huge favor and check these out, you might like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QvBg9XFZvY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qggxTtnKTMo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXAKOfk7_ho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbEwHJX95QE

not a fan of the first link but i like the second one a lot. still not done listening to them all.

[BobbyFresco]

hmmm. aesop rock, blue scholars, jedi mind tricks, immortal technique, supreeme, atmosphere... etc are the guys who really float my boat. not all of them are necessarily "intelligent", per se, but they certainly go beyond the realm of "bitches and hos" style hip-hop.


IMO, the work of the artists you have named would be considered to be hip hop as opposed to rap.

Atmosphere has been around for awhile but if you're not from MN or into underground music then you probably know nothing about it. Same w/some of the other ppl/groups you mentioned.


I like Kanye. IMO, his work goes beyond the standard bitches ho's and what have you formula that most of today's rap is plagued by.

[MR2DR]

oh shit... nostalgia much? +rep

[BobbyFresco]

Kanye also puts on a hell of a show. Saw a show with him, N.E.R.D and Lupe Fiasco and it was non stop from beginning to end.

[osnap]

IMO, the work of the artists you have named would be considered to be hip hop as opposed to rap.

Atmosphere has been around for awhile but if you're not from MN or into underground music then you probably know nothing about it. Same w/some of the other ppl/groups you mentioned.


I like Kanye. IMO, his work goes beyond the standard bitches ho's and what have you formula that most of today's rap is plagued by.
yeah i know its more hip-hop, but i just hate being so picky about genres. hip-hop and rap are undeniably intertwined. I dont necessarily agree about atmosphere - of all the artists I mentioned, atmosphere i think is by far the most well-known. And yeah, I agree with you on Kanye - as far as mainstream radio rap is concerned, hes probably my favorite.

[Julio]

Andre 3000 is OK.. But not that great.
the hip hop knowledge in this thread can be compare to that of a 1st grade student.


Yes Kanye personality sucks... But he can def write and produce. Kanye been in the game for YEARS making beats and when I saying making beats.. he sample beats and make them fire.
Almost all his songs have some sort of message....

Is he the best NO.. not even in my top 10... But I will give credit where credit is due.

LIL WAYNE... mainstream rapper, but is also a good lyricist. He has some corny songs.. but the CARTER 3 album is a future classic. He has songs on there that are really nice.. and not club banger or 107.9 jams... SO again, I will give credit where credit is due.

Everyone has opinions on HIP HOP.. Thats ok, I respect that.. but.. there is a reason some people dont sell even when they are Indie or can freestyle in the underground world....
lol @ SLUG... hahahaha c'mon dude..

[alpine_aw11]

So you would honestly tell me that Lil Wayne is a better lyricist than Slug?

[osnap]

LOL

[dohc4.6sc]

Andre 3000 is OK.. But not that great.
the hip hop knowledge in this thread can be compare to that of a 1st grade student.


Yes Kanye personality sucks... But he can def write and produce. Kanye been in the game for YEARS making beats and when I saying making beats.. he sample beats and make them fire.
Almost all his songs have some sort of message....

Is he the best NO.. not even in my top 10... But I will give credit where credit is due.

LIL WAYNE... mainstream rapper, but is also a good lyricist. He has some corny songs.. but the CARTER 3 album is a future classic. He has songs on there that are really nice.. and not club banger or 107.9 jams... SO again, I will give credit where credit is due.

Everyone has opinions on HIP HOP.. Thats ok, I respect that.. but.. there is a reason some people dont sell even when they are Indie or can freestyle in the underground world....
lol @ SLUG... hahahaha c'mon dude..


i know everyone has their own opinions but seriously? he throws shit together that makes about as much sense as a poodle fucking a pitbull. he's a martian? lol, i know its all entertainment and shit and im not saying i dont like his music but i will say HALF his songs make no sense.


im not old but i am old school as far as rap goes, im more of a late 80's and early 90's rap/hip hop listener.

[man]

the hip hop knowledge in this thread can be compare to that of a 1st grade student.

Since when is musical taste objective? The whole philosophy surrounding any form of art is subjectivity. If you want right and wrong stick to math...

[osnap]

Since when is musical taste objective? The whole philosophy surrounding any form of art is subjectivity. If you want right and wrong stick to math...
bingo.