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Jonflip29
10-17-2008, 08:17 PM
Decided to mess with the FC again today since it was rainning. Started to gut out the interior today. Next the dash comes completely out, then on to pull the motor and trans. I'll update pics after each day.

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quickdodgeŽ
10-17-2008, 08:18 PM
Get that damn thing moving, dude. Come on, man. Later, QD.

JITB
10-17-2008, 08:26 PM
what was wrong with it?

Jonflip29
10-17-2008, 08:32 PM
what was wrong with it?

Nothings wrong with it. Runs fine and all. Just trying to build a track/drift car. Plus I want to paint it a different color so I want to paint the whole chassis one solid car that I can have as a base. I don't like red.

quickdodgeŽ
10-17-2008, 08:41 PM
Just trying to build a track/drift car.

Well shiit. Scratch my previous post. Later, QD.

SLOWR/T
10-17-2008, 08:54 PM
Nice build. Ill be working on mine more once I get a tranny and stuff

FasTech
10-17-2008, 09:01 PM
Damn, are you crazy? That car looks to be in way to good of shape to be turned into a track car...lolol

Howcome you just didn't find an old junker to use?


What kind of track car? Drift, autocross, drag?

Jonflip29
10-17-2008, 09:22 PM
Nice build. Ill be working on mine more once I get a tranny and stuff

Thanks, you have one too, huh. What you doing to it? Got any pics?

Jonflip29
10-17-2008, 09:25 PM
Damn, are you crazy? That car looks to be in way to good of shape to be turned into a track car...lolol

Howcome you just didn't find an old junker to use?


What kind of track car? Drift, autocross, drag?

A lil' bit of everything...expect drag. I'm not a str8 line kinda dude. Yea the car is in good shape but I replaced a old junker with this one. I can't keep a car stock tho. LOL.

1439/2000
10-17-2008, 09:38 PM
Would you like some gunmetal FD wheels with tires to trade for your aftermarket wheels. You know to keep weight down for a race car. (And because those would look good on my FD)

=)

Jonflip29
10-17-2008, 09:53 PM
Would you like some gunmetal FD wheels with tires to trade for your aftermarket wheels. You know to keep weight down for a race car. (And because those would look good on my FD)

=)

Haha good try but i'll pass. Thanks.

oldschoolteg
10-17-2008, 10:33 PM
Looks good! I need to get back to working on my 90 GTU/s again.:ninja:

man
10-17-2008, 10:35 PM
:cry: I miss my FC

I'm gonna be doing pretty much the same thing as you soon since it's just sitting in my garage back home

87 Turbo II
10-17-2008, 11:46 PM
I will own a TII again one day...........

Jonflip29
10-17-2008, 11:49 PM
I will own a TII again one day...........

Do you still own an RX7?

JITB
10-18-2008, 12:14 AM
maybe one day ill step up to a rx7 in the mazda world..

Jonflip29
10-18-2008, 12:44 AM
maybe one day ill step up to a rx7 in the mazda world..

Haha stepping up in the Mazda world is going to an FD.

JITB
10-18-2008, 01:10 AM
Haha stepping up in the Mazda world is going to an FD.

lol yea im on my way..i think ive owned all the FWD mazdas... :lmfao:, and i got a 929 now, so ill be there soon enough.. :goodjob:

redrumracer
10-18-2008, 05:05 AM
maybe one day ill get around to improving my fc by putting a v8 in it instead of just letting it sit without an interior or motor/trans.

SLOWR/T
10-18-2008, 07:08 AM
Thanks, you have one too, huh. What you doing to it? Got any pics?


Ill update the thread once I get outta the hospital and get working on it more.

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?p=37068320#post37068320

quickdodgeŽ
10-18-2008, 07:28 AM
maybe one day ill get around to improving my fc by putting a v8 in it

That's blasphemy, not improving, lolol. Later, QD.

Elbow
10-18-2008, 07:51 AM
maybe one day ill get around to improving my fc by putting a v8 in it instead of just letting it sit without an interior or motor/trans.

NA 20B > V8 all day long

SLOWR/T
10-18-2008, 08:04 AM
That's blasphemy, not improving, lolol. Later, QD.

NA 20B > V8 all day long

Dont click on my build thread when I create it then ;)

1439/2000
10-18-2008, 08:06 AM
Haha stepping up in the Mazda world is going to an FD.


Thats why I went straight there. We need to have an IA RX7 meet though. There are ALOT more on here than there used to be.

quickdodgeŽ
10-18-2008, 08:23 AM
Dont click on my build thread when I create it then ;)

Just don't show the engine, lolol. Then I can click on it and leave (hopefully) positive comments.


We need to have an IA RX7 meet though. There are ALOT more on here than there used to be.

I could come. I'd just have to bring the pics of mine when I had one. Lolol. Later, QD.

scabtastic
10-18-2008, 09:35 AM
man i miss my T2

redrumracer
10-18-2008, 09:39 AM
Just don't show the engine, lolol. Then I can click on it and leave (hopefully) positive comments.



I could come. I'd just have to bring the pics of mine when I had one. Lolol. Later, QD.
from the pics that i have seen your rx7 was LOW, EXTREMELY LOW. or atleast it appeared that way.

quickdodgeŽ
10-18-2008, 09:46 AM
^^^ It was.

Heheh.

1997. Later, QD.

redrumracer
10-18-2008, 09:49 AM
god i like rx7 and that one looks nice, prob a bumpy ride, but thats livable considering how low my b2000 was and how it was lowered, along with my blazer.

Elbow
10-18-2008, 09:51 AM
That's TOO low

redrumracer
10-18-2008, 09:53 AM
That's TOO low
there is no such thing.

Jonflip29
10-18-2008, 11:07 AM
Good lawd! QD that thing is low! Nice, I like it.

But yea agreed, there are a lot of rx7s on IA that don't get much attention. We should have a meet. I can bring mine out in a few weeks. I need to put a few things back together and some front brakes. It'll be nice to have a meet before I really tear it apart.

Elbow
10-18-2008, 11:08 AM
there is no such thing.

Um yeah there is lol, too low is ugly, and handles worse then stock.

NoRotor
10-18-2008, 04:14 PM
That's blasphemy, not improving, lolol. Later, QD.

Ignorance is bliss :crazy:

quickdodgeŽ
10-18-2008, 04:35 PM
there is no such thing.

Exactly.


Um yeah there is lol, too low is ugly, and handles worse then stock.

No sir. Who said anything about needing handling? I didn't race the car. It was just a cruising car.


Ignorance is bliss

You must be a pretty happy fellow, then, huh? Later, QD.

NoRotor
10-18-2008, 05:07 PM
You must be a pretty happy fellow, then, huh?

Wow, you're so clever. :goodjob:
Have you ever ridden in an FD with an LSx?

redrumracer
10-18-2008, 05:10 PM
Um yeah there is lol, too low is ugly, and handles worse then stock.
what he said


No sir. Who said anything about needing handling? I didn't race the car. It was just a cruising car.

its a certian lifestyle that some people dont understand.

redrumracer
10-18-2008, 05:11 PM
Wow, you're so clever. :goodjob:
Have you ever ridden in any RX7 with an LSx?
fixed :D

quickdodgeŽ
10-18-2008, 05:26 PM
Wow, you're so clever. :goodjob:

As were you with your snappy come back.


Have you ever ridden in an FD with an LSx?

No I haven't. I don't plan on it in the near future either. Not because I don't want to but because I don't know anyone with one. I don't really know anyone, personally, that has an RX7. I don't care for the any of the models past the 2nd gen. I'm an old school person. I'm one of the ones that don't care much for cross-branding cars. So what? Don't be so offended by what I post. It wasn't an attack. It was just an opinion on my personal preference. Later, QD.

NoRotor
10-18-2008, 05:41 PM
I can understand and appreciate that. Maybe when I get my wheel fixed, I can give you some first hand experience that might change your mind.:)

David88vert
10-18-2008, 06:14 PM
I've ridden in a FD with a LSx. Didn't feel as fun as a turbo. Maybe if the LSx had a big turbo it would be more fun....

quickdodgeŽ
10-18-2008, 06:26 PM
I can understand and appreciate that. Maybe when I get my wheel fixed, I can give you some first hand experience that might change your mind.:)

Thank you. And I doubt you'd change my mind, but I would definitely welcome a ride. Lolol. +37 to you for being cool in this. Later, QD.

1439/2000
10-18-2008, 06:44 PM
I've ridden in a FD with a LSx. Didn't feel as fun as a turbo. Maybe if the LSx had a big turbo it would be more fun....


I make 330whp on the efini twins and I'm sure a stock ls1 car would be edged out by just a little.

However the v8 cars with a cam/heads/spray etc would walk me. I feel with a rotary with the twins still gives me enough low end to be a very fun and balanced car. I'm not 100% sold on the LSX swap for my car yet. I think every RX-7 owner considers it when they pop their motor though. lol

Elbow
10-18-2008, 06:55 PM
So drive your car hard and stop popping motors.

SLOWR/T
10-18-2008, 07:31 PM
I have ridden in a LSX FC and that really changed my mind on what I wanted. I had first bought a street ported TII for my project but decided that what I wanted to do Id just need to go piston. I did sacrfice and get a LT instead of a LS but it will be a good starter for me.

redrumracer
10-18-2008, 07:37 PM
I have ridden in a LSX FC and that really changed my mind on what I wanted. I had first bought a street ported TII for my project but decided that what I wanted to do Id just need to go piston. I did sacrfice and get a LT instead of a LS but it will be a good starter for me.
a LT isnt a bad choice, hell turn it into a 383. while you have it out.

Elbow
10-18-2008, 08:04 PM
PP 20B > ANY V8 lol

redrumracer
10-18-2008, 08:36 PM
PP 20B > ANY V8 lol
:rly: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/sowhatsitcalled/images/Top%20fuel%20dragster%20engine.jpg

1439/2000
10-19-2008, 08:44 AM
PP 20B > ANY V8 lol

No thanks. An NA 3 rotor is boring. RE amemiya JGTC car was a NA 3 rotot and it was fast because it didnt weigh anything and the other cars had restrictors. A big single 2 rotor or 3 rotor, sure but na its not fun. I have ridden in NA pp 12a's in FBs and they are quick but they are not FAST.

V8's are going to be better than any NA rotary in cost of money and reliability at the same power levels. I'm staying 13b-rew as long as possible while its running good but if it pops, I'll have to think long and hard about what I want to put in there.

man
10-19-2008, 10:31 AM
TURDBOW POWA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Elbow
10-19-2008, 11:35 AM
No thanks. An NA 3 rotor is boring. RE amemiya JGTC car was a NA 3 rotot and it was fast because it didnt weigh anything and the other cars had restrictors. A big single 2 rotor or 3 rotor, sure but na its not fun. I have ridden in NA pp 12a's in FBs and they are quick but they are not FAST.

V8's are going to be better than any NA rotary in cost of money and reliability at the same power levels. I'm staying 13b-rew as long as possible while its running good but if it pops, I'll have to think long and hard about what I want to put in there.

I guess it depends what you want to do. But I have seen tons of NA rotaries kill V8 cars and turbo rotaries, and I personally road race, and would much rather have NA.

Elbow
10-19-2008, 11:36 AM
:rly: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/sowhatsitcalled/images/Top%20fuel%20dragster%20engine.jpg

Yes really. I'd still rather have a NA 20B then that.

1439/2000
10-19-2008, 11:52 AM
I guess it depends what you want to do. But I have seen tons of NA rotaries kill V8 cars and turbo rotaries, and I personally road race, and would much rather have NA.


Ok but you dont have an FD. I have ridden in just about every configuration of them before I bought mine and a big single 2 rotor and ls1 cars were the most fun. I rode in a turbo cosmo swap which is 3 rotor and while its responsive, it doesnt hit like the hi revving 2 rotors.

NA 3 rotors are responsive but they dont have a big turbo kick you get at 4500 rpm or 500 ft lbs of torque out of an LS1 throw you in your seat in a 2700 lb car.

Elbow
10-19-2008, 11:54 AM
Right I don't HAVE one, doesn't mean I havent driven them.

87 Turbo II
10-19-2008, 01:12 PM
But yea agreed, there are a lot of rx7s on IA that don't get much attention. We should have a meet. I can bring mine out in a few weeks. I need to put a few things back together and some front brakes. It'll be nice to have a meet before I really tear it apart.
Yeah a meet with a lot of pics would be great. I'd come out. I love Rx-7s sooo much.

1439/2000
10-19-2008, 01:57 PM
Let's do it then. I'm making a thread in the Mazda section.

Jonflip29
10-19-2008, 02:29 PM
I'm down for a meet.

On the other hand, with this debate about rotors to pistons. I personally am going to keep a turbo rotary (whether it be a 13b or 20b) in my rx7 b/c it is a unique car and should stay unique for what it is. Yea throwing a LS or any other V8 might sound mean and fun but it doesn't qualify for being an rx7 after that. Its like putting a K20 in another Honda, or an RB in another Nissan...Thats acceptable b/c your staying within the family. But going from two different makes and from import to domestic and mixing all that shyt up. Man you must be a confused person to want that. As for me, I like to keep it original and stay in the family. Turbo Rotary FTW! Now I only say turbo rotary b/c I haven't been impressed by any NA rotary. If someone can show me the light, then please feel free.

redrumracer
10-19-2008, 02:41 PM
Yea but a lsx is lighter than the rotary and all the supporting equipment thats involved with the turbo, actually you end up LOSING weight by swapping in a LSx, and the torque you get from it is nice also :) but its your car and do what will make you happy, i just had to interject some more v8 rx7 (http://www.v8rx7forum.com) propaganda.

Jonflip29
10-19-2008, 02:49 PM
Yea but a lsx is lighter than the rotary and all the supporting equipment thats involved with the turbo, actually you end up LOSING weight by swapping in a LSx, and the torque you get from it is nice also :) but its your car and do what will make you happy, i just had to interject some more v8 rx7 (http://www.v8rx7forum.com/) propaganda.

Ehh, i wasn't referring to weight loss and gains but i understand where your coming from.

1439/2000
10-19-2008, 03:58 PM
I like v8 swaps but having a rotary is fun. The sounds are like crazy. Boost at 8k rpm is a roar in the fd. Boost at 10k in my old car with the streetport was like an F1 car.

Elbow
10-19-2008, 04:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ieBKyaVHO0 (1:15)

redrumracer
10-19-2008, 04:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ieBKyaVHO0 (1:15)
and how much money is needed for power like that out of a rotary? v8, drop in and have that kind of fun, with huge reliable power up grades available in the future at a good cost.

redrumracer
10-19-2008, 04:08 PM
oh and i still like the sound of a good ole v8 under the hood.

SiLkY_JohnSon
10-19-2008, 04:23 PM
Clean interior for a Fc

David88vert
10-19-2008, 05:57 PM
Yea but a lsx is lighter than the rotary and all the supporting equipment thats involved with the turbo, actually you end up LOSING weight by swapping in a LSx, and the torque you get from it is nice also :) but its your car and do what will make you happy, i just had to interject some more v8 rx7 (http://www.v8rx7forum.com/) propaganda.

That's only true if you use a bare, stripped down V8 install on an all aluminum block and heads. If you strip the extras off the rotary and go single, it is lighter than the V8 can get PLUS the weight is located where it should be - lower down and farther back. This allows the cars handling to be much better balanced. It is cheaper to rebuild a rotary, and pull 350rwhp out of it, than to buy all of the parts necessary to install a V8.
As for reliability, my supercharged, 60K mile Mustang has broken down and cost me a lot more than my 160K+ mile FD ever did.
As for cost - I just sold one of my rotarys to my cousin for $3K - complete with Haltech, HKS boost controller, Turbonetics T-76, 1600cc injectors, FMIC, Aeromotice fuel system, etc. Everything needed for installing it. Engine did 618rwhp @ 28psi in the old chassis. Do you happen to have a full 600rwhp V8 setup for sale around that price that weighs the same?
If you know what you are doing, rotarys are very hard to beat for value.

1439/2000
10-19-2008, 08:16 PM
As for cost - I just sold one of my rotarys to my cousin for $3K - complete with Haltech, HKS boost controller, Turbonetics T-76, 1600cc injectors, FMIC, Aeromotice fuel system, etc. Everything needed for installing it. Engine did 618rwhp @ 28psi in the old chassis. Do you happen to have a full 600rwhp V8 setup for sale around that price that weighs the same?
If you know what you are doing, rotarys are very hard to beat for value.


OMG why didnt I buy that setup? lol

eraser4g63
10-19-2008, 09:59 PM
Everyone is buying RX-7s now.

Elbow
10-19-2008, 10:01 PM
That's only true if you use a bare, stripped down V8 install on an all aluminum block and heads. If you strip the extras off the rotary and go single, it is lighter than the V8 can get PLUS the weight is located where it should be - lower down and farther back. This allows the cars handling to be much better balanced. It is cheaper to rebuild a rotary, and pull 350rwhp out of it, than to buy all of the parts necessary to install a V8.
As for reliability, my supercharged, 60K mile Mustang has broken down and cost me a lot more than my 160K+ mile FD ever did.
As for cost - I just sold one of my rotarys to my cousin for $3K - complete with Haltech, HKS boost controller, Turbonetics T-76, 1600cc injectors, FMIC, Aeromotice fuel system, etc. Everything needed for installing it. Engine did 618rwhp @ 28psi in the old chassis. Do you happen to have a full 600rwhp V8 setup for sale around that price that weighs the same?
If you know what you are doing, rotarys are very hard to beat for value.

:goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob:

1439/2000
10-19-2008, 10:30 PM
Everyone is buying RX-7s now.


I had half of one powering my 911 before my fd. :rolleyes:

87 Turbo II
10-19-2008, 11:16 PM
Now I only say turbo rotary b/c I haven't been impressed by any NA rotary. If someone can show me the light, then please feel free.
MY NA Rx-7 is faster than my TII was. Then again the TII was stock and this is highly modded but I';ll give you a little ride at the Rx-7 meet. I'm not claiming it's super duper quick, but it's a decent for an N/A stock port 13B probably nearing as quick as N/A gets without porting. MY car is a bit of a sleeper. Once again, nothing too special, but it ALWAY surprises people who ride in it for the first time. Think a high powered hard top Miata with a more reliable engine :p.

UpSideDownDesi
10-20-2008, 01:00 AM
we should have a gtgther and work on ur RX-7's lol......install day meet.

Jonflip29
10-20-2008, 01:10 AM
we should have a gtgther and work on ur RX-7's lol......install day meet.

Good idea but I doubt you guys want to drive all the way to Conyers to help me work on my rx7.

Boosted FC
10-20-2008, 08:00 AM
One day I will rejoin the Rotary family. Just enjoying the 6 a little too much right now :D.

Elbow
10-20-2008, 08:51 AM
MY NA Rx-7 is faster than my TII was. Then again the TII was stock and this is highly modded but I';ll give you a little ride at the Rx-7 meet. I'm not claiming it's super duper quick, but it's a decent for an N/A stock port 13B probably nearing as quick as N/A gets without porting. MY car is a bit of a sleeper. Once again, nothing too special, but it ALWAY surprises people who ride in it for the first time. Think a high powered hard top Miata with a more reliable engine :p.

A Miata engine isn't reliable? :???: lol

87 Turbo II
10-20-2008, 09:06 AM
A Miata engine isn't reliable? :???: lol
Haha no, it was just something a guy at the autocross said to me. HE was like "I love my first gen, it's a hardtop Miata with a more reliable engine." I replied "I've never heard anyone call a rotary more reliable than anyhting without hearing the word 'DSM' next." Then he pointed out that these first gens really never break down. 1st gen 12As and 13Bs have 3mm apex seals. Thus the redline @ 7K instead of 8K like the FC 13Bs, but they last until 250K miles, but no, the Miata engine isn't unreliable.

Elbow
10-20-2008, 09:47 AM
Ohhh lol ok gotcha

SLOWR/T
10-20-2008, 10:27 AM
Ok heres a thread. No need to screw up the mans build thread.

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?p=37268830#post37268830

Jonflip29
10-20-2008, 11:49 AM
Ok heres a thread. No need to screw up the mans build thread.

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?p=37268830#post37268830

haha thanks.

Jonflip29
10-20-2008, 11:50 AM
Ok heres a thread. No need to screw up the mans build thread.

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?p=37268830#post37268830

Haha thanks. Funny how things can switch topics that fast.