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Terror
10-12-2008, 10:08 PM
Well, I have no particular beliefs about this day. The end of the Mayan calender and sopposedly related to several endings according to religion aswell. Others say it will be a new beginning or "enlightenment", and some just another day. Curious as to what others think.

Discuss...

dtmcnamara
10-12-2008, 10:10 PM
just a few days before Christmas...thats all it is too me.

dtmcnamara
10-12-2008, 10:10 PM
by the way are those 17x9 +45 all around?

S II K
10-12-2008, 10:14 PM
OMG JDM i am trying to pm you about your exhaust...

CLEAR YOUR PM'S NOW! please :)
and do you still have it?

btw i think that december 21st is just another day...NOBODY knows the day that the "world is going to end" only God knows.

ironchef
10-12-2008, 10:15 PM
I thought it was supposed to be December 12th not the 21st?

redrumracer
10-12-2008, 10:26 PM
yea its supposed to be all 12's, and all it is, is the end of the Mayan calendar

90_ACCORD
10-12-2008, 10:28 PM
yeah dont mean much to me

EJ25RUN
10-12-2008, 10:30 PM
the FIA Concorde agreement will need revising.

redrumracer
10-12-2008, 10:31 PM
oh and if something does happen then ill be highly pissed because i would have just finished college and would have spent over 50k on flight school.

EJ25RUN
10-12-2008, 10:32 PM
oh and if something does happen then ill be highly pissed because i would have just finished college and would have spent over 50k on flight school.

That aint to bad compared to Jacksonville University and their program. I'll be broke for years after that. :(

Echonova
10-12-2008, 10:34 PM
Just another day, Mayan's figured "Oh hell, that's far enough. We'll finish it later."

But I'll make sure to get laid the night before just incase...

tron
10-12-2008, 10:36 PM
^WORD!

Deaf Pimp
10-12-2008, 10:37 PM
Damn, this has been floating around the internet for such a long time. Do a Google search and you will find a whole bunch of facts on this. Some say the Mayan's couldn't look that far into the dates, but it doesn't necessarily mean we are going to fall off the map or the world is going to end. Research, come up with your own conclusions. I am going to guess this is going to be the next Y2K-like scare.

redrumracer
10-12-2008, 10:41 PM
That aint to bad compared to Jacksonville University and their program. I'll be broke for years after that. :(
prob not, state run college ftw. but honestly i think im going to change for a quicker program so i can get to flying and making money. although i do know what i told you :D

EJ25RUN
10-12-2008, 10:43 PM
prob not, state run college ftw. but honestly i think im going to change for a quicker program so i can get to flying and making money. although i do know what i told you :D

Well i'm currently back in school and very satisfied. Arn't you like 6 months into your program?

redrumracer
10-12-2008, 10:44 PM
Well i'm currently back in school and very satisfied. Arn't you like 6 months into your program?
:yes: but its a four year degree program

EJ25RUN
10-12-2008, 10:46 PM
:yes: but its a four year degree program

That it is.

redrumracer
10-12-2008, 10:49 PM
That it is.
yep and i wanted to be 40k feet in the air yesterday.

EJ25RUN
10-12-2008, 10:51 PM
yep and i wanted to be 40k feet in the air yesterday.

That is gonna take some time before you get in a plane that can go that high.

redrumracer
10-12-2008, 10:56 PM
That is gonna take some time before you get in a plane that can go that high.
RJ's can do 35k and corporates do 45k+ all day. its just a matter of getting hired on. :(

Echonova
10-12-2008, 11:11 PM
RJ's can do 35k and corporates do 45k+ all day. its just a matter of getting hired on. :(I will hire you to pilot my private jet after you graduate.

redrumracer
10-12-2008, 11:18 PM
I will hire you to pilot my private jet after you graduate.
sweet sounds like a deal. but actually ill be hire able after summer(hopefully) as long as i stay on track, because ill have my commercial license.

coreyctr1980
10-12-2008, 11:21 PM
As far as 12/12/12 and ive also heard 12/21/12, I've researched a little bit about it and supposedly thats the date the earth and all other planets will be in line at once. I dont know the signifigance of it, but the way things are going now, we wont last much longer with all the bs

Echonova
10-12-2008, 11:24 PM
sweet sounds like a deal. but actually ill be hire able after summer(hopefully) as long as i stay on track, because ill have my commercial license.I was just going over some figures, and it looks like I'll have to hold off on hiring you untill 12/13/12. Hope that works for you...:ninja:

redrumracer
10-13-2008, 12:06 AM
I was just going over some figures, and it looks like I'll have to hold off on hiring you untill 12/13/12. Hope that works for you...:ninja:
thats fine, also factor into your figures the cost of getting me type rated in your particular choice of jet, unless you go with the new D-jet from diamond.(1.3 million(which really isnt that bad considering the price of jets.)) :goodjob:

EDIT: although if you can afford a jet then getting me type rated shouldnt be a problem.

HeLLo iM iZzY
10-13-2008, 01:00 AM
This just in.

The Yousef is looking to hire new pilots for his new training school that he just opened up.
All sorts of manuevers and routes will be explained. :ninja:
You can send him a PM through this link (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=3148).
Great pay expected AFTER the final exam. :ninja:

RL...
10-13-2008, 04:52 AM
All religion is bs.

We need to restore the fundamental necessities and environmental awareness of the species through the avocation of the most current understandings of who and what we truly are, coupled with how science, nature and technology (rather than religion, politics and money) hold the keys to our personal growth, not only as individual human beings, but as a civilization, both structurally and spiritually. The central insights of this awareness is the recognition of the Emergent and Symbiotic elements of natural law and how aligning with these understandings as the bedrock of our personal and social institutions, life on earth can and will flourish into a system which will continuously grow in a positive way, where negative social consequences, such as social stratification, war, biases, elitism and criminal activity will be constantly reduced and, idealistically, eventually become nonexistent within the spectrum of human behavior itself.
This possibility is, of course, very difficult for most humans to consider, for we have been conditioned by society to think that crime, corruption and dishonesty is "the way it is" and that there will always be people who want to abuse, hurt and take advantage of others. Religion is the largest promoter of this propaganda, for the "us and them" or "good and evil" mentality promotes this false assumption.
The reality is that we live in a society that produces Scarcity. The consequence of this scarcity is that human beings must behave in self preserving ways, even if it means they have to cheat and steal in order to get what they want. Our research has concluded that Scarcity is one of the most fundamental causes of aberrant human behavior, while also leading to complex forms of neurosis in other ways. A statistical look at drug addition, crime and incarceration statistics, finds that poverty and unhealthy social conditions comprise the life experience of those who engage in such behavior.
Human beings are not good or bad... they are running, forever changing compositions of the life experience(s) that influence them. The "quality" of a human being ( if there was such a thing ) is directly related to the upbringing and thus belief systems they have been conditioned into.
This simple reality has been grossly overlooked and today people primitively think that competition, greed and corruption are "hardwired" elements of human behavior and, in turn, we must have prisons, police and hence a hierarchy of differential control in order for society to deal with these "tendencies". This is totally illogical and false.

tron
10-13-2008, 06:36 AM
wow.......not much i can say to that but ya know if this is quote then you should site it but if you wrote this i'd like to here more.
i've always thought religion is crap but damn! never went this deep

ksniperfox
10-13-2008, 08:16 AM
interesting, thats my birthday.

Tracy
10-13-2008, 08:19 AM
I found this online:

The following predictions show when the world will end (or has already ended)

2003 : Comet

A group of aliens, called Zetas, have been kind enough to warn us Earthlings about our impending destruction. Through their human contact they have warned us that the world is destined to be wiped out by a comet, which passes by every 3657 years. Unfortunately, during 2003 the Earth will pass through its tail causing our planet to stop rotating for several days. As if this were not bad enough there will be violent winds, firestorms from the sky and gigantic tidal waves. When the chaos eventually stops the ice caps will melt and the land will return to the sea.





2008-MAR-21: World War

The British group The Lord's Witnesses believe that the Bible contains codes which can be used to predict, amongst other events, the end of the World. Based on this code they have charted the history of Mankind from the birth of Adam in the year 4027BC to its destruction in 2008 – the result of a horrific world war.





2012 : Mayan Calendar

The Mayan calendar is divided into months of 20 days, years of 360 days, katun of 7200 days and a baktun of 144,000 days. According to this ancient civilization the world will last for exactly 13 baktun cycles. Their calendar started on 3114-AUG-13 BCE with the birth of Venus and they expected the world to end during the Winter Solstice of 2012.





2012-DEC-21: Novelty Coincidence

Terence McKenna, based on Novelty Theory ( the amount of novelty present in any temporal domain ) predicts that “at the coincidence of the moment of the solstice and the heliacal rising of the galactic centre, levels of planetary novelty will exponentially increase. The theory does not make clear the nature of the ultra novel event, however, speculation as to the nature of the encounter with the trans-dimensional object at the end of time includes Solar Explosion and Quasar Ignition at the
Galactic Core.”



2014: Pope Declaration

In the year 1514 Pope Leo IX wrote "I will not see the end of the world, nor will you my brethren, for its time is long in the future, 500 years hence."



2028 : Mystical Number 666

Initially Eli Eshoh predicted that, based on his investigation into the Mystical Number 666, the world would end in 1998. It apparently has not – much to the annoyance of those who took Eshoh’s advice and sold all their belongings prior to 1998. However, he does reassure us that the end of the world is on course, “Do not fret about this. Everything is on track. The Rapture took place on June 6, 1998. The reason it wasn't noticed was that only 603,729 people were taken up, so out of a world population of 6,660,603,729 persons, it wasn't noticed. The question most of you may be asking is "Why am I still here." Obviously you weren't saintly enough to be selected by God to join him, so you will have to prove your worth in the upcoming Tribulation. The groundwork has been laid. The Beast was born on June 6, 1998, and a world is entering into a period of great instability. Mark the year 2028 on your calendars!” This explanation is rather feeble – surely some of the relatives of the “603,729 people were taken up” must have noticed they had not returned home!





2028-Oct 26th Asteroid 1997 XF11

Initial calculations suggested that asteroid 1997 XF11 will pass dangerously close to the Earth and would result in its destruction. However, current analyses suggest that it will come no closer than 0.00636 AU (951,000 km, 591,000 mile) or about 2.5 times farther than the moon. If these latest predictions are correct then the probability that the asteroid will impact the Earth is effectively zero. Just in case the initial predictions were correct it would be safer to stay indoors on this day.





2280 Quran Code

"When the horn is blown once. The earth and the mountains will be carried off and crushed; utterly crushed. That is the day when the inevitable event will come to pass." 69:13-15

The end of the world is coded in the Quran, according to the translation by

by Dr. Rashad Khalifa, and will be destroyed in 2280. The signs, of it’s impending destruction, given in the Quran have already been fulfilled. These include :

1) The splitting of the moon: This happened in June 1969 when man landed on the moon and brought back moon rocks.

2) The Creature (27:82): The Quran has predicted that at the right time God would produce a creature that would be instrumental in unveiling His signs. This was fulfilled, the creature was the computer which was instrumental in unveiling the Quran's numerical code, and proclaiming that the world has neglected God's message.





3797 : Nostradamus

French physician and astrologer Nostradamus, (1503-1566), wrote a collection of prophecies, entitled Centuries, which were published in 1555. Worryingly, many of these prophecies, which predict events from the mid-1500s through the end of the world, have a habit of coming true.



1,000,000 A.D. Destruction by Gamma Rays

Provided we survive all the aforementioned ‘World Ends’ we will absolutely, definitely cease to exist in the year 1,000,000 – give or take a year or two. Gamma Ray bursts occur naturally in the Galaxy due to events such as neutron star binary inspirals. These occur every million years or so and produce a gamma ray flux which exceed even the largest solar flares. The absorption of this radiation into our atmosphere will increase nitric oxide concentrations and greatly reduce ozone concentrations resulting in the extinction of life on Earth.






53 Terrified Thessalonians

Christ’s return was being forecast even before the Bible had been written. During the year 53 a rumour spread like wildfire, amongst the Thessalonians, that the day of reckoning was about to happen and widespread panic ensued.





400 Prophesy

In the year 234 A.D. theologian, and martyr Hippolytus prophesised that the appearance of the Antichrist which would be followed by the Lord’s return He believed that the world had a life span of 6,000 years and since Adam was born 5,500 years before Christ then the world had a sell by date of 500A.D.





989 : Halley's Comet

The appearance of Halley's Comet during August led to panic that it would collide with the Earth and destroy it.



1000 : The Second Coming

As the end of the first millennium approached mass hysteria spread across the Christian world that the return of Christ was nigh. From beggar to king everyone believed that this would be the New Year party to end all parties and that Jesus would be guest of honour. During the year 999 there was a sudden burst or religious fervour with people selling of their worldly possessions and giving the money to the poor. Criminals were released from prisons. Believing that this was their last days of their life people stopped planting crops, neglected their property and flocked in huge numbers of pilgrims headed east to meet the Lord at Jerusalem.





1666 : Year of the Beast

It was a devilish year – containing that dreadful 666 number and with the bubonic plague killing 100,000 plus the Great Fire destroying much of London it was forgivable that people considered it a ‘(horrible year)’



1982 The Second Coming – Part Two

On April 24-25, 1982, people around the world opened their morning newspaper to discover the rather disturbing headline announcing, "The Christ is Now Here!" and claiming that “Christ had returned to Earth in a materialized body in July, 1977, and has since been living among a group of Pakistani Indian immigrants in South London, England” Most folk just didn’t feel prepared for Judgement Day. Fortunately these full-page adverts, placed by the New Age religious group TARA Center, were mere speculation and several months later, with the world still in one piece, the group announced that they “the delay was only because the consciousness of the human race was not quite right. "





1984 : Tenth Time Lucky

The Jehovah's Witnesses predicted doomsday as 1984. However, as the got it wrong in 1874, 1878, 1881, 1910, 1914, 1918, 1925 and1975 most folk could be forgiven for simply ignoring their warning



2000 : 666 Again

If you divide 2000 by 3, you will get the devil's number 666.66666666666666666666. Coupled with the fact that all computers were probably going to crash on the stroke of midnight the end of the millennium was count down with considerable apprehension.

Needless to say computers continued to work with no more crashes than normal and the Devil failed to materialize.

4dmin
10-13-2008, 08:50 AM
when i was at the mayan temple it does stop at 2012 but that represented was a change for them... it doesn't say what the change is but this has happened many times before and when this happens the mayans would build a new temple on top of the old ;)

i have some pix somewhere i'll have to drag them up but the mayan ruins are a must to see
http://photos.igougo.com/images/p219888-Chichen_Itza-Mayan_Temple.jpg

alpine_aw11
10-13-2008, 09:25 AM
I do know that the end of the Mayan calender represented what is basically an overhaul of society. Honestly I think we need that to happen, but idk how or when it ever would. I haven't done any real research on it because I'm pretty anti-religous and whatnot so I don't believe in this stuff. I'm going to have one wild ass night on 12/11/12 though just in case some shit goes down.

Maniacc
10-13-2008, 10:04 AM
There is zero scientific evidence that anything will happen, but there are numerous things that could easily threaten the human species in the year 2012, such as a geomagnetic reversal, asteroid strike or supernova. Or soemthing more intimate, like a flu pandemic, or a nuclear war.

Atleast that's what it says here, http://www.survive2012.com/

I for one doubt the earth will get hit by an asteroid anytime soon. If I remember correctly I think there has been an asteroid detected that will pass real close to us but this won't occur til 2028 I think. The only thing that could happen is some strange geomagnetic reversal. Others think planet X / Nibiru will make a re-appearance and cause strange phenomenons around Earth.

A lot of things out there that talk about this day. I've done my research on it and find this stuff somewhat religious like. Not really but kinda... Here's a conspiracy theory http://www.2012endofdays.org/more/Conspiracy-Theory.php and here's a video that talks about Nibiru and other shit. http://www.wat.tv/video/2012-illuminati-conspiracy-of-y7ip_vzfh_.html this is a video with 7 parts... there are tons of other videos out there that talks about 2012. Some talk about aliens and creators. Any of you seen Indian Jones and crystal skull? Notice how the alien mother ship was inside one of the temples? Well, there is one video that I've seen out there that talks about some movies that have been made by "current" flim makers that are "trying" to send some kind of sign out there. To warn us or something.

Seriously though, I think the people that will take this as a life or death situation will be the millions of parents around the world because their kids Christmas is canceled and they will probably end up being the reason why we enter the "end up days." lmfao, fucking kids.

ETA: The correct date is 12/12/2012. It's not the 21st.

sabastian458
10-13-2008, 10:45 AM
2012 is an election year. :) maybe the "over haul of society" is a new canidate that comes in, wins, and in december completely revamps and resets our society back on "track" what ever "track may mean.

drpepper14
10-13-2008, 11:21 AM
All religion is bs.

We need to restore the fundamental necessities and environmental awareness of the species through the avocation of the most current understandings of who and what we truly are, coupled with how science, nature and technology (rather than religion, politics and money) hold the keys to our personal growth, not only as individual human beings, but as a civilization, both structurally and spiritually. The central insights of this awareness is the recognition of the Emergent and Symbiotic elements of natural law and how aligning with these understandings as the bedrock of our personal and social institutions, life on earth can and will flourish into a system which will continuously grow in a positive way, where negative social consequences, such as social stratification, war, biases, elitism and criminal activity will be constantly reduced and, idealistically, eventually become nonexistent within the spectrum of human behavior itself.
This possibility is, of course, very difficult for most humans to consider, for we have been conditioned by society to think that crime, corruption and dishonesty is "the way it is" and that there will always be people who want to abuse, hurt and take advantage of others. Religion is the largest promoter of this propaganda, for the "us and them" or "good and evil" mentality promotes this false assumption.
The reality is that we live in a society that produces Scarcity. The consequence of this scarcity is that human beings must behave in self preserving ways, even if it means they have to cheat and steal in order to get what they want. Our research has concluded that Scarcity is one of the most fundamental causes of aberrant human behavior, while also leading to complex forms of neurosis in other ways. A statistical look at drug addition, crime and incarceration statistics, finds that poverty and unhealthy social conditions comprise the life experience of those who engage in such behavior.
Human beings are not good or bad... they are running, forever changing compositions of the life experience(s) that influence them. The "quality" of a human being ( if there was such a thing ) is directly related to the upbringing and thus belief systems they have been conditioned into.
This simple reality has been grossly overlooked and today people primitively think that competition, greed and corruption are "hardwired" elements of human behavior and, in turn, we must have prisons, police and hence a hierarchy of differential control in order for society to deal with these "tendencies". This is totally illogical and false.

I hope you aren't taking credit for this....
http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/

The Yousef
10-13-2008, 10:41 PM
This just in.

The Yousef is looking to hire new pilots for his new training school that he just opened up.
All sorts of manuevers and routes will be explained. :ninja:
You can send him a PM through this link (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=3148).
Great pay expected AFTER the final exam. :ninja:

who the fuck are you?

ksniperfox
10-14-2008, 09:38 AM
There is zero scientific evidence that anything will happen, but there are numerous things that could easily threaten the human species in the year 2012, such as a geomagnetic reversal, asteroid strike or supernova. Or soemthing more intimate, like a flu pandemic, or a nuclear war.

Atleast that's what it says here, http://www.survive2012.com/

I for one doubt the earth will get hit by an asteroid anytime soon. If I remember correctly I think there has been an asteroid detected that will pass real close to us but this won't occur til 2028 I think. The only thing that could happen is some strange geomagnetic reversal. Others think planet X / Nibiru will make a re-appearance and cause strange phenomenons around Earth.

A lot of things out there that talk about this day. I've done my research on it and find this stuff somewhat religious like. Not really but kinda... Here's a conspiracy theory http://www.2012endofdays.org/more/Conspiracy-Theory.php and here's a video that talks about Nibiru and other shit. http://www.wat.tv/video/2012-illuminati-conspiracy-of-y7ip_vzfh_.html this is a video with 7 parts... there are tons of other videos out there that talks about 2012. Some talk about aliens and creators. Any of you seen Indian Jones and crystal skull? Notice how the alien mother ship was inside one of the temples? Well, there is one video that I've seen out there that talks about some movies that have been made by "current" flim makers that are "trying" to send some kind of sign out there. To warn us or something.

Seriously though, I think the people that will take this as a life or death situation will be the millions of parents around the world because their kids Christmas is canceled and they will probably end up being the reason why we enter the "end up days." lmfao, fucking kids.

ETA: The correct date is 12/12/2012. It's not the 21st.


+ reps if i can, i read those articles and watched that video, and

i am convinced that there is an underlying agenda for a new world order/one world government, people in power only seek more power. as a piece of the article stated-our freedoms are slowly and voluntarily being eroded away. any form of believed terrorism and the NSA/initial agencies can hold you with 0 rights for as long as they wish. talk of new microchips and and international currencies(euro, proposed amero) only lead to a single united government whose goal is to have complete power over everything. i believe any deviance from what the NWO wants will lead to accusations of terrorism, and then that person is dealt with. 24/7 surveillance via microchips and an ever increasing # of cameras. new gun laws make it considerably harder to obtain them.
what i believe to be the sad thing, is that the NWO will be ushered in not from any sort of revolution as the conventional and empirical way may have been(aka hitler's attempt, etc, others), but it will be wanted by the people and they will have no idea what is going on until it is done.

i know this isnt the most thorough/convincing response, but this is just a snippet of whats going through my head. if you feel i am wrong or dumb, please do some reading and learning for yourself. the information is out there.