View Full Version : General Chat 1g DSM vs z31 turbo
slostang
10-10-2008, 03:45 PM
so I'm in the market for a nice project. I've been looking at awd 1st gen dizzums, but the other day my boss offers me his 85 nissan 300zx turbo for $3000 and it's in great shape.
so what would you choose?
alpine_aw11
10-10-2008, 03:48 PM
That's pretty tough. I'd love to own either of those. I think I would get the z though if I had to choose.
Thighs
10-10-2008, 03:51 PM
id go with the dsm. are we talking AWD TSi?
who cares? lol dsms are cooler cars IMO, and much much nicer.
Revmaynard
10-10-2008, 04:46 PM
I like the z31 if done correctly a lot more. Does it have t-tops? Auto/manual? Color?
slostang
10-10-2008, 10:15 PM
I like the z31 if done correctly a lot more. Does it have t-tops? Auto/manual? Color?
manual, hard top, and primer grey (won't be for long if I get it.)
87 Turbo II
10-11-2008, 12:56 AM
Get the Z,it's a true real wheel drive sports car (grand touring if you must, but built ground up on a sport layout), not a grocerie getter on steroids wearing a biker jacket to sneak it into the sports club with the big boys(no offense if you own one, but factory sports cars > non-sport speacialty cars that became sporty as an afterthought).
OneSlow5pt0
10-11-2008, 12:57 AM
deff Z31
if i had the money id pick up Kal's for $1600 on here
Motivation
10-11-2008, 01:11 AM
Get the Z,it's a true real wheel drive sports car (grand touring if you must, but built ground up on a sport layout), not a grocerie getter on steroids wearing a biker jacket to sneak it into the sports club with the big boys(no offense if you own one, but factory sports cars > non-sport speacialty cars that became sporty as an afterthought).
:eek: :cry:
redrumracer
10-11-2008, 01:13 AM
id have to say the dsm, the z31 looks like a piece of shit.
Motivation
10-11-2008, 01:17 AM
i'm gonna have to go awd dsm, obviously...
OneSlow5pt0
10-11-2008, 01:25 AM
i like the DSMs,but i like RWD more....plus its a V6 like my car,but u have a turbo:(
Me86Rob
10-11-2008, 01:32 AM
DSM. Z31 is garbage
Motivation
10-11-2008, 01:34 AM
lol, and this is coming from a guy who owns a Z31, so that should say it all right there... I love my dsm :goodjob:
slostang
10-11-2008, 02:02 AM
I'm gonna try to get this z within a month and a half. I will be test driving it next week. :goodjob:
slow_hatch
10-11-2008, 02:08 AM
DSM. Z31 is garbage
lol, and the DSM is much better??? Seems that every 1g I've been around required constant maintenance and was always breaking.
slostang
10-11-2008, 02:11 AM
lol, and the DSM is much better??? Seems that every 1g I've been around required constant maintenance and was always breaking.
not if they are properly maintained.
OneSlow5pt0
10-11-2008, 02:13 AM
is it a 2 seater or 2+2?
if u get it,maybe we can run sometime.......u should beat my my slow V6
Me86Rob
10-11-2008, 02:18 AM
not if they are properly maintained.
lol the only way to do that is to not drive them.
in all honesty dude, they dont make alot of after market Z31 stuff. the susp is terrible on these cars. you are GOING to have wiring problems. not maybe, not possibly, you will. esp with a turbo car. and its a slick top. which is less fun. just be careful man.
slostang
10-11-2008, 02:31 AM
lol the only way to do that is to not drive them.
in all honesty dude, they dont make alot of after market Z31 stuff. the susp is terrible on these cars. you are GOING to have wiring problems. not maybe, not possibly, you will. esp with a turbo car. and its a slick top. which is less fun. just be careful man.
the whole engine has been rebuilt and rewired around 50k ago. so when I mean it's cherry, it's fuckin cherry :goodjob:
slostang
10-11-2008, 02:34 AM
is it a 2 seater or 2+2?
if u get it,maybe we can run sometime.......u should beat my my slow V6
it's a 2 seater. and if I get it I'll be glad to run you.
OneSlow5pt0
10-11-2008, 02:36 AM
it's a 2 seater. and if I get it I'll be glad to run you.
alright man,GL with it....i really like those cars
see ya tuesday
Thighs
10-11-2008, 02:44 AM
z31s just dont do anything for me. they look kinda ugly, and the suspension geometry is horrible. like lexi said, they are electrical nightmares, and this is now coming from a BMW owner....
ask my boss about z31s. we have 3 ex-race cars sitting behind the shop rotting right now. why? because they sucked and the owners not only wanted to stop racing them, but to stop owning them.
please don't buy a Z31... get a damn S30 240/260/280z
2turbo4u
10-18-2008, 09:28 PM
Get a Yugo
lol the only way to do that is to not drive them.
Looks like we got a smart one on are hands.:thinking:
I have been putting 300 miles every 5 days on mine and it is running fine.
Catnip
10-19-2008, 04:55 AM
I've had 2 DSMs and I never had to "constantly maintain" them, gtfo with that urban myth.
RandomGuy
10-19-2008, 06:02 AM
if they're the same price, 1g awd dsm without a doubt
z31's are slow, heavy, relatively unresponsive to mods, handle like boats, and just all around a pain... also on the sohc motor its really hard to get past 350whp without sinking a LOT of $
the dsm on the other hand is lighter, will definitely handle better without a doubt... waaay more responsive to mods, giant aftermarket, just more fun to drive, and if something breaks you have one of the biggest enthusiast communities to help you out... As it says in their slogan "DSM's- turning regular people into mechanics daily"
but they aren't as unreliable as the their rep gives them. And their heads flow exponentially better than the sohc vg z31 crap head.
Minimal mods: exhaust(400$), fuel injectors(200), fuel pump(100), safc(200) + big 16g(300-500), fmic kit (200-ebay), and etc (200) you're in the neighborhood of 350awhp
SandM
10-19-2008, 11:18 AM
dsm ftmfw. i have done my research on the dsm's, and theyre an amazing car when done right.... had i not already had a project on my hands, i would have kept my 6-bolt 95 TSi.
Elbow
10-19-2008, 11:19 AM
DEF. THE DSM...why is that even a QUESTION?????
RL...
10-20-2008, 01:35 PM
I'm not a fan of the z31's either. 1g eclipse/talon awd turbo
slostang
10-20-2008, 01:53 PM
yeah I'm going 1g shopping sometime this week.
Motivation
10-20-2008, 02:06 PM
What happend with your boss's car? My 1g awd is giving me a few problems right now... :cry: But that's just an excuse I can use for upgrade.
Kaiser
12-30-2008, 09:07 PM
lol the only way to do that is to not drive them.
in all honesty dude, they dont make alot of after market Z31 stuff. the susp is terrible on these cars. you are GOING to have wiring problems. not maybe, not possibly, you will. esp with a turbo car. and its a slick top. which is less fun. just be careful man.
He might get more wiring issues with the Turbo (Which I will agree with 100%, you know that.) But the suspension geometry problems are GONE. We're not talking about a 2+2 NA like yours, we're talking about the 2 seater Turbo 5-speed. The whole setup is different, the only thing the same is the looks.
OP: 3k on a Z31 Turbo in BAD condition is a good price, for one in GOOD condition, you're getting a baller deal.
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