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ugaroadster
09-03-2005, 10:05 AM
Well this is my first post so hey guys! But tonight me and my friend (billythekid310 it was his G35) were leaving a football game and we pulled up next to a Estoril Blue M3 at a stop light (it looked very clean have to give props to the driver) and just from what i could tell is it had an exhaust with a DTM tip. Then he looked at my friend and reved his engine up a little bit and Billy (my friend) responded in the same way. Billy didn't launch hard had it up around 1500 RPMs we both took off at the light and he was ahead by about 1/4 of a car length then as the rpms got up above 4000 RPMs we started to pull on him. When billy shifted into 2nd we were even but as we were both going through 2nd gear we were still pulling past him and by 3rd gear we were a car lenght ahead of him. It was a very fun race and a very clean M3!!!!

On_Her_Face
09-03-2005, 10:08 AM
one thing he left out was that my car is stock except for exterior things.. but it was a very close race :)

Speedm0(\)key
09-03-2005, 12:30 PM
i've taken out a couple of modded e36's myself.. good run man

On_Her_Face
09-03-2005, 02:25 PM
hey im assuming that ur a good driver.. would u wanna do a lil run ur Z v my G i havent really gotten a good race against one.. and ive heard the G would win and ive heard the Z would win but i bet its just a drivers race

Speedm0(\)key
09-03-2005, 03:08 PM
hey im assuming that ur a good driver.. would u wanna do a lil run ur Z v my G i havent really gotten a good race against one.. and ive heard the G would win and ive heard the Z would win but i bet its just a drivers race


it should almost be a drivers race from a dig to about 80mph (edge to the Z) after 80mph the Z will outrun the G, but sure im down, say... 50mph pull?

ironchef
09-03-2005, 03:24 PM
it should almost be a drivers race from a dig to about 80mph (edge to the Z) after 80mph the Z will outrun the G, but sure im down, say... 50mph pull?Why is that? To me both cars seem equal in aerodynamics, and the g does have a bit more power if i remember right.

On_Her_Face
09-03-2005, 03:42 PM
yea 50 mph sounds kool to me.. my friend told me he wants to come and he has an s4.. i dont think he will keep up cause of the awd but just tell me when you can, it should b fun

Speedm0(\)key
09-03-2005, 08:13 PM
Why is that? To me both cars seem equal in aerodynamics, and the g does have a bit more power if i remember right.


slightly different gearing, weight (G weighs about 250lbs more) , yes i beleive the new Gs are 298hp?... something like that, the Z also got a up in hp, 300hp but lost 16-20 lbft of torque.. in the end both the 287hp VQ and 300HP VQ have provided the car with the same top end.. howeve rthe 300hp one lost some midrange power. the G needed the torque more than the Z

tony
09-03-2005, 08:18 PM
the gearing is slightly different?

Speedm0(\)key
09-03-2005, 08:19 PM
yea 50 mph sounds kool to me.. my friend told me he wants to come and he has an s4.. i dont think he will keep up cause of the awd but just tell me when you can, it should b fun


sure man, you guys should come up to the gwinnett meets.. im there every friday/saturday

WINDSOR
09-03-2005, 08:35 PM
sure man, you guys should come up to the gwinnett meets.. im there every friday/saturday

they still let people hang out at BP or what?

Speedm0(\)key
09-03-2005, 09:18 PM
the gearing is slightly different?


i beleive it is for the 300hp Z's and 287hp Z's, not 100% sure, just what i heard from some nissan techs but again.. those guys are wrong half the time

On_Her_Face
09-05-2005, 04:56 PM
where r the meets?

ct9a gsr
09-05-2005, 06:07 PM
yea 50 mph sounds kool to me.. my friend told me he wants to come and he has an s4.. i dont think he will keep up cause of the awd but just tell me when you can, it should b fun


AWD makes you slower, how?

tony
09-05-2005, 06:24 PM
uh oh

TranceDJ06
09-05-2005, 06:25 PM
Damn that Ride is fawkking Smokin' ^^^

ugaroadster
09-05-2005, 06:46 PM
AWD makes you slower, how?

I believe he was referring to the extra parasitic drivetrain losses due to AWD.

ironchef
09-05-2005, 09:35 PM
What year s4? If its one of those newer ones, i think it would take a g35 with ease.

ct9a gsr
09-05-2005, 09:51 PM
What's the drivetrain loss on your bimmer?

On Evo's it's usually about 13% - 15% when comparing base factory #'s to the crank with dyno results on an AWD DynoJet.

b0ki
09-05-2005, 11:08 PM
What year s4? If its one of those newer ones, i think it would take a g35 with ease.


Audi S4 ! any S4 will smoke the G35 ; p V6 Bi turbo or the V8 : P

tony
09-06-2005, 07:20 AM
Audi S4 ! any S4 will smoke the G35 ; p V6 Bi turbo or the V8 : P


I wouldnt say that is completely true. The drivetrain loss on 350Z's and G35's seem to be about the same as the Evo, stock they dyno around 230whp, that is a 50hp loss.

ugaroadster
09-06-2005, 10:02 AM
What's the drivetrain loss on your bimmer?

On Evo's it's usually about 13% - 15% when comparing base factory #'s to the crank with dyno results on an AWD DynoJet.

I do not know much about Evo's and whether they have particularly efficient AWD drivetrains, or are underrated from the factory, but I have seen many dyno's where S4's and WRX's are losing 20-22% compared to say 12% for rwd.

tony
09-06-2005, 11:38 AM
are you guys going to be hanging out this weekend?

Speedm0(\)key
09-07-2005, 12:31 AM
i dont know if ill have time this weekend to run anyone, since the fam's restaruant opened and my ass has to be there every day from 8-11.. but if i do make it itll be around 11:30 friday gwinnett at BP, i think my whole crew will be there.. if anyone wants a shot at something else

DrivenMind
09-07-2005, 01:46 AM
I'm pretty sure an S4 would outrun a stock or lightly modded 350z or G35. I believe they were stating that AWD is at a slight disadvantage on the highway because it is dead weight. AWD pays off in the launch, but once you get moving and the chances of wheel-spin are minimal the AWD car is now carrying the extra weight of the parts making up the AWD system of that particular car that the 2WD car is not.

I haven't looked recently, but I think S4s are actually pretty damned fast. The new ones are a tad heavier than their predecessor, but aren't they rated at something like 400 hp?

tony
09-07-2005, 07:56 AM
The newer ones a G35 wouldnt have a chance but I know I smoked a 2000ish S4 pretty bad when I was stock but that was from a roll.

On_Her_Face
09-07-2005, 06:33 PM
yea im pretty sure i can take it just from looking at the stats.. its the v6 TT and its auto but i kno if it wasnt auto i could take it!! btw theres nothing wrong with an AWD drive car its just that on his car it would effect him i believe