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Hollowmon
09-25-2008, 07:58 PM
I was having a big debate with my peoples the other day and I came up with this thread. Now even though I drive a Honda My favorite motor is not a B16A. Well anyways .................
If money wasn't an issue what kind of engine would you build?
I don't consider myself an importer, more like an enthusiast so here are my choices.
Eruo: S54 out of the E46 BMW M3. Set up with twin turbos.
Asian: A fully built RB25(bored,stroked,and boosted)
Domestic: Yes American Muscle! I am a Mopar fan when it comes to domestics I have yet to see any motor out perform or outlast a well built old school Hemi. It up to this day doesn't have any solid competition(My Opinion).
Oh....... Yeah..... If I had to pick a favorite it would be the S54. I find it to be the most well rounded Drag, Drift, Track u name it, it can do.
Post Your Favorite!!:goodjob:
Blitanicle99
09-25-2008, 08:12 PM
Euro... Twin Turbo S54 or whatever the E92 M3 motor is.
Asian... 2JZ or RB30. That or a K20 (s2000 motor right, most Hp per cylinder)
American... Hands down 427 LS2 Handbuilt Z06 motor. Stroke it out... all motor beast with spray.... Oh good god...
I am a bigggg fan of euro deisgn. Inline 6 FTW...
industrial_1
09-25-2008, 08:15 PM
OS Giken TC16 or TC24
*edit*
Or Nissan S20
leobond001
09-25-2008, 08:38 PM
jap- 6g72 out of an gto vr-4 ( 3000gt). bomb ass motor. comes with forged everything
euro- e 39 M5 motor. slap on some little twin turbo's and this thing is pushing 600 hp with no build up
american - probaly 6.1 hemi srt-8 motor
jew_boy
09-25-2008, 08:43 PM
i know you might not beable to get alot of power out this motor
jap. - D13 and yes they make them
&
america - 427 BBC twin turbo mostly equiped with all Banks components
Alan®
09-25-2008, 09:45 PM
Euro... Twin Turbo S54 or whatever the E92 M3 motor is.
Asian... 2JZ or RB30. That or a K20 (s2000 motor right, most Hp per cylinder)
American... Hands down 427 LS2 Handbuilt Z06 motor. Stroke it out... all motor beast with spray.... Oh good god...
I am a bigggg fan of euro deisgn. Inline 6 FTW...
:doh: you mean an f20C
slostang
09-25-2008, 09:53 PM
k24 bottom end, k20ar head, full na build with itb's. I've seen this setup make just north of 400whp.
flak_monkey
09-25-2008, 10:21 PM
I'd build up an LS7.
Or a 383 LS1. 427 with a blower.
xdavidscenex
09-25-2008, 10:30 PM
d17y8 or d16 with nature gas GX pistons mild build head. over 50mpg ftmfw
03RCode
09-25-2008, 10:30 PM
Hhhmmm... Probably a 416 LS1.
Z33_kid
09-25-2008, 10:37 PM
jap - 2jz
american-ls1
redrumracer
09-25-2008, 11:12 PM
euro- an aston martin would be fine
jap crap-hmmmmm between rx7 and a 3kgtvr4
american-tt sbc
korean- a fire pit
Terror
09-26-2008, 01:31 AM
oooh tough question..
Jap- 2JZ or F20C ;)
American- LS1
Thighs
09-26-2008, 01:46 AM
^^ lulz
any inline motor. or a viper motor.
flak_monkey
09-26-2008, 01:49 AM
http://www.golenengineservice.com/html/ls.html
the one second from the bottom with the SC.
OneSlow5pt0
09-26-2008, 10:35 AM
LT4 or 20B
BlkCD5
09-26-2008, 10:54 AM
Ls1-American
1jz- Japanese
E36 M3 euro spec motor
SLOWR/T
09-26-2008, 11:33 AM
US-426 Hemi with a couple turbos
Japan- RB26
blackshine007
09-26-2008, 12:12 PM
Asian: Nissan VQ series V6
American: A built up Chevy DOHC I6 from the chevy trailblazer in something really lightweight
Euro: Anything Ferrari powered
jdmda9
09-26-2008, 12:37 PM
import: fully built 97 supra w/t70 turbo
domestic: 08 c6 z06 w/intake, heads and exhaust and lots of spray.
euro: ferrari f50
Captain-Obvious™
09-26-2008, 12:48 PM
dat Spoon motor son...
David88vert
09-26-2008, 03:21 PM
815 Ford Hemi, and put 2 huge turbos on it. Already has over 1700hp when N/A
http://www.jonkaaseracingengines.com/products-815fordhemi.php
BKgen®
09-26-2008, 05:41 PM
'68 Cadillac 472/500 FTW.
i also love the modded F130A from F50 GT's. (4.7l v12)
Me86Rob
09-26-2008, 05:47 PM
lololol i lose. Hicomp 4A-GE with ITBs or 4A-GZE
DecoyOctopus
09-26-2008, 06:24 PM
k24 bottom end, k20ar head, full na build with itb's. I've seen this setup make just north of 400whp. thats a little hard to beleive. i read up on a few making 280 to the wheels and they were suped up to the teeth. it revved up to 9.5 compression was 12.5:1 etc. toda made one in a modified mag magazine it was a rsx with a k20z bottom end bored out to 2.2litres, k20a head (dc5 type r), modified f22c crank, cams itbz everything from toda and it made 280 as well. they claimed 320 to the crank
RandomGuy
09-26-2008, 06:27 PM
gallo 24 is pretty much superior
i might get one, if i can afford it, one day
Bruce Leroy
09-26-2008, 06:48 PM
I want to build a NA 4rotor, and put it in a fc.
DunDunSkeert
09-26-2008, 07:18 PM
gallo 24 is pretty much superior
i might get one, if i can afford it, one day
Shutup Brian Oconner.
ranger250x
09-26-2008, 10:14 PM
whats currently in john force's stable...the BOSS 500
DeeAOne
09-26-2008, 10:21 PM
euro- C36 from the lotus carlton
jap- KLDE from the v6 626 or mx-6 (one of the best v6's ive ever heard. imo)
domestic- hmm, i do have a soft spot for the 3.8l v6 from the grand national.
:goodjob:
Euro - 2.0 Dohc Cosworth Yb motor
Jap - 20B
American - New Hemi
Hollowmon
09-27-2008, 12:46 AM
thats a little hard to beleive. i read up on a few making 280 to the wheels and they were suped up to the teeth. it revved up to 9.5 compression was 12.5:1 etc. toda made one in a modified mag magazine it was a rsx with a k20z bottom end bored out to 2.2litres, k20a head (dc5 type r), modified f22c crank, cams itbz everything from toda and it made 280 as well. they claimed 320 to the crank
A k24 blocked bored with K-Pro and the right bolt-ons and internals it should get real close!:yes:
DecoyOctopus
09-27-2008, 12:58 AM
i doubt it can hit 400 hp naturally aspirated.
87 Turbo II
09-27-2008, 01:43 AM
R26B rotary engine
It's the engine in this car just in case people want to brush up on their rotaries.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Mazda-787B.JPG/800px-Mazda-787B.JPG
max output was 980 hp @ 10,500 RPM but Mazzda de-tuned it in the 787B to 700hp @ 9000 RPM for fear of destroying the transmission in the race.
Well since money isn't an option in this scenario, I think making another 980hp model with a more modern transmission and high rated clutch would KILL mounted in an FD.
Hollowmon
09-27-2008, 01:50 AM
i doubt it can hit 400 hp naturally aspirated.
I also doubt 400 But high 300's yes. The compression on that block should hold 12:5:1 easy and then it will be bored to like 2.6 or 2.7 liters
Hollowmon
09-27-2008, 01:52 AM
R26B rotary engine
It's the engine in this car just in case people want to brush up on their rotaries.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Mazda-787B.JPG/800px-Mazda-787B.JPG
max output was 980 hp @ 10,500 RPM but Mazzda de-tuned it in the 787B to 700hp @ 9000 RPM for fear of destroying the transmission in the race.
Well since money isn't an option in this scenario, I think making another 980hp model with a more modern transmission and high rated clutch would KILL mounted in an FD.
:eek:.............You would kill yourself in an FD:no:
David88vert
09-27-2008, 09:50 AM
R26B rotary engine
It's the engine in this car just in case people want to brush up on their rotaries.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Mazda-787B.JPG/800px-Mazda-787B.JPG
max output was 980 hp @ 10,500 RPM but Mazzda de-tuned it in the 787B to 700hp @ 9000 RPM for fear of destroying the transmission in the race.
Well since money isn't an option in this scenario, I think making another 980hp model with a more modern transmission and high rated clutch would KILL mounted in an FD.
Actually, I would make lower compression rotors, and put a custom sequential turbo system on it. Could make a lot more then. I'd have a custom tranny built also.
87 Turbo II
09-27-2008, 10:11 AM
:eek:.............You would kill yourself in an FD:no:
probably haha. I'd do well in a stock one provided I didn't drive like a jacka$$. but yeah, I'd definitely have NO control over a 980bhp R26B powered FD.
87 Turbo II
09-27-2008, 10:16 AM
Actually, I would make lower compression rotors, and put a custom sequential turbo system on it. Could make a lot more then. I'd have a custom tranny built also.
980 is already probably overkill, also, I'd prefer the response of a high power, high reving N/A; sequential on such a high output motor would have disadvantages in weight to power ratios, not to mention complexity and reliability issues.the sheer heat 2 turbochargers generate is what kills most FDs, the 787B outlasted several piston engines in the 24 hours, so thebeauty of it is that it is still reliable as-is.
okra1981
09-27-2008, 10:30 AM
Jap.- 4g63, a lot of power and a lot of possibilities
U.S.- Cummins Turbo Diesel, whoever thought they could go so fast in a Dodge truck, it's an I6 and can produce more torque than a fleet of Civics, plus it runs for a long ass time
Euro- I wish I could claim the EP3 since it was built in England, instead, the new three liter twin turbo motor from the BMW 335, that thing is hella strong and you know it has potential
David88vert
09-27-2008, 06:12 PM
980 is already probably overkill, also, I'd prefer the response of a high power, high reving N/A; sequential on such a high output motor would have disadvantages in weight to power ratios, not to mention complexity and reliability issues.the sheer heat 2 turbochargers generate is what kills most FDs, the 787B outlasted several piston engines in the 24 hours, so thebeauty of it is that it is still reliable as-is.
You do realize that a sequesntial can be quite smooth right? If you have the money to develop a 26B, you have the money to build the whole car, considering that Mazda does not make that motor available for any type of purchase.
There would be no problem with power-to-weight. You would easily add a little more weight in the rear for traction anyways.
The system is not that complex to design, follow BMW or Mazda's examples.
Reliability? With that much money, what would it matter? :D
I have owned all gens of RX7s - quite a few of them. I've never had a problem with keep them reliable. Turbos would not be difficult to add to that motor. And you can never have too much power.
Shibby
09-27-2008, 06:24 PM
I want an H23A VTEC motor swap in my car.
I love the blue valve cover and the massive torque for half the price of the k series.
K20Z1
09-27-2008, 07:23 PM
honda k20a !!
Roadster
09-27-2008, 08:20 PM
Domestic: Keith Black Hemi, or the 765c.i. hemi-headed Ford nitrous motor we did at work a while back. It broke the damn dyno.
Euro: Old school all motor 911 engine.
Jap: Not very outlandish, but a really well built ITB'd BP Miata stroker engine with stout internals and a 10k rev limiter.
dorin48
09-28-2008, 09:31 PM
Money is no option eh? The I would absolutely develop my own head and block castings. Make everyting to my specifications and try to incorporate as many small block chevy maintenance parts for ease of up keep, selection, and availability. A lot of development has gone into the sbc so I would use it to keep my beast healthy. :D
Revmaynard
09-28-2008, 09:35 PM
Euro- S14
Japanese - b17
American - 440
Australian - 265 straight 6 HEMI.
:)
GAtegs
09-28-2008, 09:40 PM
A Wankel without a doubt.
GTScoob
09-30-2008, 04:45 PM
Japanese: whatever the 4.0 v8 is out of the SC400, turbocharge it and put it in a supra, that way you could have some serious powerband
Euro: 335 motor, single turbo, maybe some spray
American: Ford 5.4 DOHC from a navigator, built for a big turbo.
Realistically, I'd love a bulletproof 2.2 in my subaru and still be able to rev it out to 9K rpms.
eraser4g63
10-01-2008, 10:27 AM
R26B rotary engine
It's the engine in this car just in case people want to brush up on their rotaries.
max output was 980 hp @ 10,500 RPM but Mazzda de-tuned it in the 787B to 700hp @ 9000 RPM for fear of destroying the transmission in the race.
Well since money isn't an option in this scenario, I think making another 980hp model with a more modern transmission and high rated clutch would KILL mounted in an FD.
I agree up to the FD, stuff that thing into an S5 FC, and hope to god when you lay into the throttle that the thing doesnt fall apart.
Nateds16
10-01-2008, 11:12 AM
Domestic 427 cobra jet like my dads but pro charged 1000hp
jap k24 built from bottom up
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