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BUGMAN
09-22-2008, 08:48 PM
More Termite info:
I have been asked by several do it yourselfers about doing your own termite control so I figured I would post up my response in here.

Doing a chemical type control for a typical homeowner is not ever going to be cost effective or properly applied. I have seen several done and in most cases it was not anywhere near the proper form and way off by my standards so I do not suggest trying that method.

I know we have tons of people on here that have cool toys, augers, drills, etc. but having everything you need to do a chemical application properly will run you in the thousands even if you rent most of the equipment.

There is a simple solution and it works great. I have used this system for more than 5 years with great results. Even though it does not have the initial kill method as does chemical applications it will eliminate the colony of wood eating terrorist.

Here is a link to the system that we use and recommend for all do it yourselfers. I have written several articles and class training sessions on this system so if you have any questions feel free to post in here or shoot me a PM.

Just FYI. Most houses can be properly protected using this system from $159-$400 depending on how equipped you want to be.

Enjoy: http://www.advancetermitecontrol.com...oductstory.htm (http://www.advancetermitecontrol.com/whyatbs_productstory.htm)

This site has tons of information so if you own a home take your time and look around. This is a Whitmire website and has nothing to do with me or my company.

quickdodgeŽ
09-22-2008, 09:02 PM
I recommend doing this along with a chemical treatment. I put a chemical barrier around my home and my Mom's home about 7 years ago. Since I haven't renewed my license, I had the company I worked for at the time, keep up the treatment. I like bait systems. But for best protection, chemical is it. Bait systems are just a little security blanket. Later, QD.

BUGMAN
09-22-2008, 09:29 PM
A lot of things have changed in 7 years mostly being bait systems and chemical barriers. Hel 7 years ago they didn't make a bait that I would use on a dog house must less sell and stand behind a million dollar damage warranty. Chemical treatment is almost obsolete and unless done as a pre-construction treatment it won't last but for a few years if that.

Dursban (Chlorpyrifos) has been banned from occupied/residential treatment so the baits have taken over and with the technology out now they have come a long way. There are a few other options out there but most are not cost efficient compared to their effectiveness.

Have you been to any of the classes that show/explain liquid treatments when drilling/treating concrete, bricks, blocks, rocks, etc.? Very interesting where the pesticide actually ends up. Almost every treatment gets less than a 70% chemical barrier anyway so don't trust that completely anymore.

Don't get me wrong because I will take a chemical pre-treat along with a bait system all day long and feel very comfortable knowing I have good protection. That's what I have now and that's what I have done with every house that we own including the 3 we will be building in the near future.

However if a house is already built then a pre-construction treatment is out of the question. Therefore I would recommend this bait system to anyone with a pre-existing structure. If it has active termites then of course a liquid spot treatment would definitely be in order for the contact kill.

I have over a hundred houses now under warranty with us that we have found active termites in the bait stations with no activity found anywhere within the structure so I trust these more than the old school liquid treatments by a long shot.

I also have probably close to a hundred customers that had termites before installing this system. Within a few months after installing the baits the termites have been eliminated with no signs of activity anywhere within the structure or stations. Colony elimination is the new way and it is doing a great job so far with improvements being made monthly.

Liquids vs Baits

http://www.advancetermitecontrol.com/options_liquidvsbait.htm

quickdodgeŽ
09-22-2008, 09:43 PM
A lot of things have changed in 7 years mostly being bait systems and chemical barriers. Hel 7 years ago they didn't make a bait that I would use on a dog house must less sell and stand behind a million dollar damage warranty. Chemical treatment is almost obsolete and unless done as a pre-construction treatment it won't last but for a few years if that.

Dursban (Chlorpyrifos) has been banned from occupied/residential treatment so the baits have taken over and with the technology out now they have come a long way. There are a few other options out there but most are not cost efficient compared to their effectiveness.

Have you been to any of the classes that show/explain liquid treatments when drilling/treating concrete, bricks, blocks, rocks, etc.? Very interesting where the pesticide actually ends up. Almost every treatment gets less than a 70% chemical barrier anyway so don't trust that completely anymore.

Don't get me wrong because I will take a chemical pre-treat along with a bait system all day long and feel very comfortable knowing I have good protection. That's what I have now and that's what I have done with every house that we own including the 3 we will be building in the near future.

Liquids vs Baits

http://www.advancetermitecontrol.com/options_liquidvsbait.htm

W used Dursban back then, but with this new treatment, we used the Termidor SC. And I'm happy to say that both houses have never had any infestations in either. And I believe it has a longer residual than Dursban did. The company I go through gave us a lifetime fix and repair warranty on this. So you know, lolol.

But I like baits because you can actually "track" the workings of the stuff. Later, QD.

BUGMAN
09-23-2008, 06:28 PM
Termidor is good no doubt. One of the best out there as a chemical treatment goes but it is expensive and still not flawless. On our previous customers if we can't get them to swap to the bait system then Phantom or Termidor is what we use to continue their chemical barrier warranty/treatments.

Remember Premise back in the mid 90's? It was the new best thing before Termidor and then Phantom which has only been out for a few years but testing better than Termidor with actual University and State testing sites. Termidor has only been tested for 8 years in most University and State test facilities and 13 years on private testing so I won't even try to compare it to Chloripyrifos yet.

Anyone can go to any favorable site and get a better review for each product but I stick with the University and State results since they are not favorable to any party. Of course my personal experiences help a lil bit. :)