7 worst ways to mod your car (Most of this applies to IA!!!)

[blackshine007]

http://www.spike.com/blog/seven-worst-ways-to/67863

Let me add a few things onto that......


HID + non HID compliant lamps = FAIL! Just because you think it looks cool to have really extremely cool colors coming from your lights means it's actually safe. The light pattern that is projected with diamond reflector type headlamps and projectors is way more controlled vs. the standard halogen lense, which scatters the light pattern and thus blinds everyone else on the road. I hope you get a ticket a thousand times over.


Short throw shifters, unless there was some real engineering put into, in short is an overall dumb idea. The whole intent of the STS is to reduce the throw of the shifter thus increasing the speed time of gear selection in between gears which means if you increase the length below the pivot point, the fulcrum must also be increased as well because you also increase the effort need to select your gears. The dumb part of it is when the length below the pivot is increased by a good bit and the fulcrum is shortened, extreme notchiness is the direct result. Also, these style STS contribute to synchro wear and eventually failure. Scatching gears recently?


Bigger injectors, fuel rail, and stronger fuel pump on a stock n/a motor doesn't equal a faster car. It means an overall slower car that's drinking more fuel due to the time the injectors are being left open with the factory settings. The factory parts have been painstakingly designed to produce enough power with plenty of room to adjust for failure. Your car can run rich on it's on if there's a problem. More fuel doesn't mean more power. More air + more fuel = more power. If you can increase the CFM (the flow of air) of your motor, you'll make more power. without having to increase injector or fuel pump size.

I hope some of this helps ya'll.

[EJ25RUN]

let other people tell you how you should mod YOUR car.

[blackshine007]

^^Some people need a reality check sometimes on the bs they're trying to bring to the table.

[Sport1.3]

If it makes you happy, fvck what others think. I dont wanna see 3290483029482 identical cars on the raod daily anyway. Diversity is what makes us great

[antiv6]

short throw shifters? are you serious

[blackshine007]

If it makes you happy, fvck what others think. I dont wanna see 3290483029482 identical cars on the raod daily anyway[. Diversity is what makes us great
That's the thing. That's all I see. Especially in the Honda community. If you ask me who's car is who, I couldn't tell you the difference between them. Besides, this isn't a "Bash Honda" thon going here. Wasn't the whole intent.

[Sammich]

i really disgust HIDs in halogen lamps as...

*looks at own car*

*leaves*

[twinj]

i really disgust HIDs in halogen lamps as...

*looks at own TRUCK*

*leaves*

X2 HAHAHAHA

[Z0_o6]

i have HID's and a spoiler..... but they were from the factory :D

[blackshine007]

short throw shifters? are you serious
So you care to give a rebuttal?

[Sammich]

DO YOU MEAN BUYING EBAY'S STS?

[Brown Man]

damn ive been doing it all wrong

[SLOWR/T]

*goes to remove STS, HIDs and cancels payment on bigger inj, fuel rail and pump*

[JITB]

I dont know bout you.. but my B&M short shifter is THE ****! in my Gt.. maybe those shortened metal rods, some people get arent worth a dam. but my B&M is great!

[Me86Rob]

lol i laughed pretty damn hard

[JITB]

I have some Gripes about the list.

The exhaust issue... cars with a loud exhaust doesnt mean a ****ty exahaust....we all know the difference between a ****ty exhaust system. And a loud ass non restrictive exhaust.

Race flywheel/clutch on 200hp na cars.... :thinking:
Daily driven race clutches/flywheel, aint new.. its all personal if you can bare with the touchy clutch/flywheels setup.. Go you!, get that power to the ground..

[JITB]

But i do have a gripe about people removing things from their car for no reason.... go and put a intake on their car and drop on a breather filter..


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/m03ppz00/simota/breather.jpg


invest in some of these..my fellows!
http://www.pipercross.net/newsletters/crankcase_0305/c9023.jpg
http://www.sceptermarine.com/sites/scepter_marine/images/160x/160_07109.jpg

[Sammich]

excuse my lack of knowledge..i know one is related to fuel(bottom one) but what is the 2nd pic for?

[JITB]

excuse my lack of knowledge..i know one is related to fuel(bottom one) but what is the 2nd pic for?


u cna use both of them to filter the crankcase fumes. instead of just having them blow into thin air. Instead of recirculating them back into the Intake manifold. or TB wherever it goes back to like its supposed to.

The hose that gets disconnected by people is used to vent. But it can cause problems when the Pvc setup gets clogged. So u can use a inline breather filter to filter the fumes or a glass inline fuel filter like the second one.. i used to on my pro.. worked great! even with a new pcv it still let soem stuff get by that the glass filter would catch.
u can see it in between the IM and the valve cover..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/jitb37/Protege/engine44784001.jpg

[Sammich]

so you see any gains using this?

[JITB]

so you see any gains using this?


naw..lol it just a maintenance longetivity (sp?) thing... it was a old car.. i was tryin to keep it running as good as it was for as long as possible. But it did help idle problems i had. That filter costs about 7$.. i think..

Mything is manufactures base motors off Vaccum lines, and them running proper. And messing that up will hurt alot more than most think. If you go to the V, or any meet, u will hear and notice most mildly modded cars never idle right. Just a personal thing...i was given this speech by a old OG mechanic.. and it stuck to me...

[Sammich]

oh...wont be getting that then lol

i do see it on alot of muscle cars..knew it had to do w/ fuel..but never found out what it was for

[JITB]

oh...wont be getting that then lol

i do see it on alot of muscle cars..knew it had to do w/ fuel..but never found out what it was for


it helps tho dont get me wrong.. give it a try... and after a few weeks or a month, u will see the filter full of all kind of sludge that was stopped from goin back in ur motor. and u can easily open it up, and clean it out...an dchange the filter inside every so often.

[Sammich]

its better on a carb'd engine?

if so i may try it on my truck

[JITB]

its better on a carb'd engine?

if so i may try it on my truck

carburetor...whats that.. :lmfao:

im not sure.. ive never touched a carb motor...

[Sammich]

lulz

i got that 2 barrel lolol

[87 Turbo II]

The guy was wrong about blow off valves. He simply provided a link showing that they can hurt the engine IF it is installed wrong, which speaks for a lot of parts. They're not super performance pieces, but they do prevent compressor surge. Also, I think a small wing can be pretty clean, even if the car doesn't get to "wing worthy speeds".

[The_ CaneCorso]

http://www.spike.com/blog/seven-worst-ways-to/67863

Let me add a few things onto that......


HID + non HID compliant lamps = FAIL! Just because you think it looks cool to have really extremely cool colors coming from your lights means it's actually safe. The light pattern that is projected with diamond reflector type headlamps and projectors is way more controlled vs. the standard halogen lense, which scatters the light pattern and thus blinds everyone else on the road. I hope you get a ticket a thousand times over.




Short throw shifters, unless there was some real engineering put into, in short is an overall dumb idea. The whole intent of the STS is to reduce the throw of the shifter thus increasing the speed time of gear selection in between gears which means if you increase the length below the pivot point, the fulcrum must also be increased as well because you also increase the effort need to select your gears. The dumb part of it is when the length below the pivot is increased by a good bit and the fulcrum is shortened, extreme notchiness is the direct result. Also, these style STS contribute to synchro wear and eventually failure. Scatching gears recently?


Bigger injectors, fuel rail, and stronger fuel pump on a stock n/a motor doesn't equal a faster car. It means an overall slower car that's drinking more fuel due to the time the injectors are being left open with the factory settings. The factory parts have been painstakingly designed to produce enough power with plenty of room to adjust for failure. Your car can run rich on it's on if there's a problem. More fuel doesn't mean more power. More air + more fuel = more power. If you can increase the CFM (the flow of air) of your motor, you'll make more power. without having to increase injector or fuel pump size.

I hope some of this helps ya'll.

I had a sts on my alty, dam thing broke one time when I was shifting!

[pipeline]

interesting

[DeeAOne]

personally, i love my HIDs. seeing that half the cars coming out nowadays have them factory that are just as bright as mine i dont see the issue. :goodjob:

and i have a skunk2 dual bend STS and im sure its not good for DD'ing, but i dont see it as one of the worst mods you can do. just my :2cents: .

[Elbow]

DO YOU MEAN BUYING EBAY'S STS?

Did you know there is NO difference in a eBay short throw vs a $$ one? :eek:

[Sammich]

Did you know there is NO difference in a eBay short throw vs a $$ one? :eek:

yes there is i've heard of many stories, like canecorso, of STS breaking when you are trying to shift hard to win that last race...maybe not the last race, but i heard they break lol

i also agree w/ deeaone...i've seen factory cars w/ factory HIDs in halogen housing w/ the same 'glare' thats always sh*tted on by others so IMHO stfu about HIDs in halogen housing..if factories do it..then i will too..not to mention i can see way better

[blackshine007]

yes there is i've heard of many stories, like canecorso, of STS breaking when you are trying to shift hard to win that last race...maybe not the last race, but i heard they break lol

i also agree w/ deeaone...i've seen factory cars w/ factory HIDs in halogen housing w/ the same 'glare' thats always sh*tted on by others so IMHO stfu about HIDs in halogen housing..if factories do it..then i will too..not to mention i can see way better
Name one manufactor that has done it. I can tell you at least 2 cars that the halogen style lense but those are designed specificly for HID's. The gen 2 Acura TL and half of the Mercedes from '98-'02. But here's the kicker, Mercedes offer 2 different parts numbers for the vehicles with and without HID's, here's your proof http://www.mbpartswarehouse.com/parts/?N=11207+4294967263+1668+11921+9217

That was specificly the '96-'99 E class headlights (W210 chassis). Do you really think that DOT will allow an auto maker to sell a vehicle with HID's having a scattered light pattern? There's a certain limit it has to be within. If it don't meet the standards, it can't sold with that vehicle unless done aftermarket, and even then it's probably still illegal.

[Sammich]

TELL ME TEH DIFF BTWN HALOGEN STYLE AND HALOGEN...I WAS LOOKING AT A VOLVO THIS MORNING W/ THE HALOGEN LENSE. HIDS LOOKED THE SAME AS MINE FROM A DISTANCE AND UPCLOSE..SO I DONT SEE THE BIG DEAL SERIOUSLY.

[blackshine007]

Looks can be very decieving. That volvo lense was designed for HID. If you were to park that car against a wall and study and compare your light to it's, you'd notice immediately that the light pattern is way more controlled than yours. Just because it "looks" the same doesn't mean it is.

[Sammich]

well hate me or not..i love the output of my HIDs and since i've had them i've only had one person flash me.

i'm keeping them, they help on the road

[Elbow]

yes there is i've heard of many stories, like canecorso, of STS breaking when you are trying to shift hard to win that last race...maybe not the last race, but i heard they break lol

i also agree w/ deeaone...i've seen factory cars w/ factory HIDs in halogen housing w/ the same 'glare' thats always sh*tted on by others so IMHO stfu about HIDs in halogen housing..if factories do it..then i will too..not to mention i can see way better

I've owned both on many cars/race cars, never seen one break personally unless you are slamming gears..which is pointless anyway.

[Glides]

Okay everyone. Pull your cars to the wall and study your light output.

Honestly. Who gives a flying fatwomans ass?

All this thread is is a reason for people to rant about something. If you don't like fake HID's, don't buy em. If you don't like STS's, don't get one and if you don't want a larger fuel rail......you guessed it, don't buy one. But if I want them i'll get em. My car, my choice.

I personally think it's rice for someone to add to an article about someones hatred of rice with their own interpretations of rice. Lot's of rice there.

[Sammich]

I've owned both on many cars/race cars, never seen one break personally unless you are slamming gears..which is pointless anyway.

STILL THE POINT IS...U DONT EXPECT FOR YOUR SHIFTER TO SNAP..FEEL WHAT I'M SAYING...SORTA LIKE U GET IN THE GRIND GOOD THEN U GET A RUG BURN..THEN U JUST QUIT CUZ OF THE PAIN, NOT MATTER HOW GOOD IT FEELS:lmfao:

[swolejamaica]

ebay short shifter!!!




I had a sts on my alty, dam thing broke one time when I was shifting!

[blackshine007]

Let's not twist my words around. I never said that they all break or cause damage, I said that if it's not properly engineered, it will destroy synchro's in the transmission. I designed and built my own STS and I haven't ruined a synchro from it since. I've stripped 3rd gear, but that was my doing. And on mazda's, that's usually the first gear to go.

Glides, congratulations. I would expect you to buy something not needed and overly excessive. That's all I'm gonna say on that note.

[The_ CaneCorso]

well hate me or not..i love the output of my HIDs and since i've had them i've only had one person flash me.

i'm keeping them, they help on the road

reminds me on my old crouch rocket I put xenons in them and the wiring for the low beam went out so it was high beams ALL the time.

[Sammich]

HAHA YEA I HAD TO DO THAT IN MY TRUCK TIL MY NEW BULBS CAME IN

[RL...]

I have HID's in my halogen headlights...I think they look great and I can see 10x better...so it works in favor of my safety...I might blind everyone, but life isn't fair is it???

[Elbow]

^You make yourself look so good

Get the real deal cheap ass

[blackshine007]

I have HID's in my halogen headlights...I think they look great and I can see 10x better...so it works in favor of my safety...I might blind everyone, but life isn't fair is it???
The part that makes you looks dumb is that from the factory they make a HID specific lens with separate high and low beam, which would benefit you even more. Congratulate yourself as well.

[87 Turbo II]

Yeah seriously, all you guys with non-DOT approved HIDs, I hope your bulbs are burn out. The 7 is so low that regular lights already look like brights, brights are hell, and non-DOT HIDs, are just utter blindness. Even if I try to stare in the lower right corner of my windshield, it's hard to see. I don't know if you guys have considered this, but your little "safety" mod make me almost hit you, which isn't very safe. It'd be YOUR fault in court when I pointed out your faulty home assembled non-DOT lights caused the crash.

[m3dic8d]

I agree with all of them except the BOV, because that was my favorite part about my Eclipse lol :D


Hahaha, reminded me of a funny story... I was riding with my gf one time and she kept hearing the BOV and asked me "How come you make that noise when you shift?" lmao she thought I was making the sound with my mouth every time I shifted

[RL...]

^You make yourself look so good

Get the real deal cheap ass

If I was cheap wouldn't i have just stuck with my factory halogen setup? Exactly, stfu b1tch...and don't hate cuz my car looks better than yours...

[RL...]

The part that makes you looks dumb is that from the factory they make a HID specific lens with separate high and low beam, which would benefit you even more. Congratulate yourself as well.

what makes you look dumb is that nissan did not introduce HID's on maxima's until 2002, and thus in the case of my car, a 2000, they did not come with such a lens from factory. And while I could buy these headlight from nissan for about $800 to be dot-approved, I am not ballin. $140 sounds a lot better than $800. I think most ppl on here would agree they'd rather spend 140 on virtually the same effect rather than 800. FYI, I just aimed my headlights up even more to piss ppl off because of your rambling...:D

[VooDooXII]

Someone please tell me what a breather does? I read a bit a little earlier, but I didn't really get it.

[m3dic8d]

Someone please tell me what a breather does? I read a bit a little earlier, but I didn't really get it.
Was over my head too, but I wasn't gonna say nothin :)

[JITB]

u cna use both of them to filter the crankcase fumes. instead of just having them blow into thin air. Instead of recirculating them back into the Intake manifold. or TB wherever it goes back to like its supposed to.

The hose that gets disconnected by people is used to vent. But it can cause problems when the Pvc setup gets clogged. So u can use a inline breather filter to filter the fumes or a glass inline fuel filter like the second one.. i used to on my pro.. worked great! even with a new pcv it still let soem stuff get by that the glass filter would catch.
u can see it in between the IM and the valve cover..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/jitb37/Protege/engine44784001.jpg



Someone please tell me what a breather does? I read a bit a little earlier, but I didn't really get it.


nothing!

The hose people always disconnect(and put a breather filter on), is supposed to be a vent, for the valvecover, and circulate fumes from inside of the Valve cover, out thru the Pcv valve, and into the Intake manifold.

It used the vaccum from the IM/Intake hose.. to do this... So when people just disconnect the hose, and throw a breather filter on it... the fumes cant be circulated and filtered.. properly..

Look at the hose, connected to the intake hose.. thats where people always put a breather filter on..... instead of using a correct Intake setup that lets the vaccum work like its supposed to!

[BlkCD5]

originally posted by NissanTun3r
And while I could buy these headlight from nissan for about $800 to be dot-approved, I am not ballin. $140 sounds a lot better than $800


:lmfao: Ever hear of junkyards? They wanted $400 at the dealership for a foglight that broke on my mom's 02 maxima. Got an oem one on ebay for less than 100 shipped. Don't be lazy to search for deals.

[RL...]

:lmfao: Ever hear of junkyards? They wanted $400 at the dealership for a foglight that broke on my mom's 02 maxima. Got an oem one on ebay for less than 100 shipped. Don't be lazy to search for deals.

Noob I know more about my car than most people on this forum, even aftermarket oem style 2002-2003 headlights on ebay still go for $400 minimum. And as far as junkyards go, I've been to a few to look for the 02-03 headlights, but they never have 5th or 6th gens there, only 4th gens and older. I've also searched in classified sections on nissan/maxima forums, but these headlights are valuable, and are in high demand amongst 5th gen owners, which is also why people used to steal these headlights...

Anyway I am satisfied with ym setup as of now...

[blackshine007]

what makes you look dumb is that nissan did not introduce HID's on maxima's until 2002, and thus in the case of my car, a 2000, they did not come with such a lens from factory. And while I could buy these headlight from nissan for about $800 to be dot-approved, I am not ballin. $140 sounds a lot better than $800. I think most ppl on here would agree they'd rather spend 140 on virtually the same effect rather than 800. FYI, I just aimed my headlights up even more to piss ppl off because of your rambling...:D
I know when they introduced them. I can understand if they weren't made for your car then I wouldn't have suggested it. If you go on Ebay right now they have a set going for a pretty decent price. My JDM lights are rare and expensive but I somehow found a set for $150 shipped. How so? I took the time to do some searching. I could've been a dumbass and just stuck some ol' HID's in the stock halogen housing but I decided to do the public a favor. Besides, they look really good on my car going the JDM route. I'm certain that if I can find a good deal on lights that are rare, you can find a good deal on lights that are common.



nothing!

The hose people always disconnect(and put a breather filter on), is supposed to be a vent, for the valvecover, and circulate fumes from inside of the Valve cover, out thru the Pcv valve, and into the Intake manifold.

It used the vaccum from the IM/Intake hose.. to do this... So when people just disconnect the hose, and throw a breather filter on it... the fumes cant be circulated and filtered.. properly..

Look at the hose, connected to the intake hose.. thats where people always put a breather filter on..... instead of using a correct Intake setup that lets the vaccum work like its supposed to!

Actually, it does something when you leave it vented like that. It's called an unmetered vacuum leak. Alot of people vent it because they are ignorant to how a modern car works. Most of your cars with a MAF/MAP/VAF meters take into account the PCV system and adjust maps on the computer to compensate for things like blowby and etc. If for example you were to have a ripped throttle body boot, the ecu would see it as unmetered air getting passed the MAF/VAF meter and would throw a lean code. If you were to take your oil cap off while the engine was running, most cars with those systems would stall the car out or it will run rough. Leave it off long enough and that lean code would come up. So instead of leaving that PCV hose vented to keep oil from getting back in the throttle body, add an oil trap to it and make sure that you hook it back up. A properly working PCV system also slows oil leaks down by making sure there isn't any crank case pressure under loads (acceleration).

[Elbow]

If I was cheap wouldn't i have just stuck with my factory halogen setup? Exactly, stfu b1tch...and don't hate cuz my car looks better than yours...

Ha um no

[Glides]

Glides, congratulations. I would expect you to buy something not needed and overly excessive. That's all I'm gonna say on that note.

You would? You know me? Or is that some sort of lame ass attempt at a comback because you feel inadequate. But if you have more to say, please say it. I would love to hear it.

[Sammich]

:lmfao: Ever hear of junkyards? They wanted $400 at the dealership for a foglight that broke on my mom's 02 maxima. Got an oem one on ebay for less than 100 shipped. Don't be lazy to search for deals.

ALMOST EVERY 02-03 MAXIMA THATS WRECKED FRONT END IS ALREADY BUSTED OR HTE HEADLIGHTS ARE ALREADY GOT...:(

EITHER...WAY I LOVE THE HID'S IN MY HALOGENS..I USUALLY DONT AGREE W/ NISSANTUN3R..BUT I LOVE MY AIDS..I MEAN HIDs:ninja:

[Ran]

Do it right or don't do it at all.

[VooDooXII]

Do it right or don't do it at all.

QFMFT

I get a fake blow-off sound from my intake :D

[Sammich]

QFMFT

I get a fake blow-off sound from my intake :D

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I GOT THE TURBO SIMULATUHZ IN MII MUFFLUHZ

[BlkCD5]

originally posted by Sammich
ALMOST EVERY 02-03 MAXIMA THATS WRECKED FRONT END IS ALREADY BUSTED OR HTE HEADLIGHTS ARE ALREADY GOT... EITHER...WAY I LOVE THE HID'S IN MY HALOGENS..I USUALLY DONT AGREE W/ NISSANTUN3R..BUT I LOVE MY AIDS..I MEAN HIDs

haha.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2173/2123392792_7f5df7ddda.jpg?v=0



originally posted by NissanTun3r
but these headlights are valuable, and are in high demand amongst 5th gen owners, which is also why people used to steal these headlights...

Tell me something I don't already know :goodjob:

[VooDooXII]

F

THAT

I GOT THE TURBO SIMULATUHZ IN MII MUFFLUHZ

OH SHIZ HE GOTS BOOST HAIL YEA :crazy:

[Sammich]

:D

[G.C]

half a year ago i got pulled over by a cop for my ricer blue hids (10k) that was blinding everyone. He gave me a citation and told me that he will revoke it if i get DOT approved stuff or bring it back to stock. I got the 6k DOT approved hid and DOT approved projectors with it.(92 prelude) i noticed a lot of difference in them. when you point the light to the wall you can see that the light does not scatter. it made a straight line across the wall and it was really bright.

[Sammich]

^^I'M NOT SAYING MINE IS RIGHT..I'M JUST SAYING I'M HAPPY WITH WHAT I HAVE.

[Frög]

"if you look at a Porsche 911, you’ll notice that a small spoiler comes up from the body of the car at speeds above around 60mph or so. Porsche considers this adequate downforce for a car which can reach speeds in excess of 190mph"

75 mph..

[RL...]

^^I'M NOT SAYING MINE IS RIGHT..I'M JUST SAYING I'M HAPPY WITH WHAT I HAVE.

x2 I am very satisfied with my setup...and I love my 10k's...i wouldnt' change a thing

[blackshine007]

^^Ricer.


Hell, you can't even see down a dark road with 10K's. You come out better running the factory lights to get better results. Besides, Ebay is selling projector headlights right now for your car. I hope that you have Hi beams with your HID's.

[Sammich]

THE HIGH BEAMS ARE BULL..SERIOUSLY...HID HIGHBEAMS ARE PRACTICALLY WORTHLESS.

[RL...]

^^Ricer.


Hell, you can't even see down a dark road with 10K's. You come out better running the factory lights to get better results. Besides, Ebay is selling projector headlights right now for your car. I hope that you have Hi beams with your HID's.

lol @ me being ricer....don't hate cuz my car looks better than your, and I can see GREAT with my HID's. They don't put out as many lumens as compared with 6K, but they are FAR better than my stock halogens lights. how about you get off my nuts ***** :goodjob: And those projectors you're talkngi about aren't compatible with HID's, idiot

[Elbow]

lol @ me being ricer....don't hate cuz my car looks better than your, and I can see GREAT with my HID's. They don't put out as many lumens as compared with 6K, but they are FAR better than my stock halogens lights. how about you get off my nuts ***** :goodjob: And those projectors you're talkngi about aren't compatible with HID's, idiot

You are very confident in the looks of your car lol :no:

[EJ25RUN]

don't hate cuz my car looks better than your,

that statement is precisely why we had issues earlier.

[toxxxic]

^^Ricer.


Hell, you can't even see down a dark road with 10K's. You come out better running the factory lights to get better results. Besides, Ebay is selling projector headlights right now for your car. I hope that you have Hi beams with your HID's.

lol. i see ****ing amazing even with my pink ass 30k's

and hi beam HID's ... MOST sets i've seen just have the low beam HID bulb and then a normal (factory) bulb for the high beam.

i see better with my 30k lowbeam than with a factory high beam.

[MR.EM1]

i drive with my lights off

[JuStCrUzIn]

for each his own right? some people have money and can afford nice cars with hids, some people just buy them and put them in whatever they have becouse they want to look like you guys with the money. as far as the guy that said in court it would be your fault becouse your hids are not dot approved...... if you crossed the yellow lines its your fault! i cant believe people are bickering about hids, im gonna get some pink 30k hids and put them in my mack truck and hope i get behind any one who has and anyone that is going to keep talkin **** about hids. it a mod that they sell for almost or every bulb so f*ck it leave it alone.....haters.

[JuStCrUzIn]

lmfao at the baby blue civic in the link.

[blackshine007]

lol @ me being ricer....don't hate cuz my car looks better than your, and I can see GREAT with my HID's. They don't put out as many lumens as compared with 6K, but they are FAR better than my stock halogens lights. how about you get off my nuts ***** :goodjob: And those projectors you're talkngi about aren't compatible with HID's, idiot
I'm not hating on anyone's car at this point. At this point in time, Glide's grass green lawn mower with the hedge trimmer body kit looks better than mine so that's not saying alot.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/sharo227/09042008/IMG_1173_edited.jpg

Projectors are far better at controlling HID light scatter than regular halogen/composite headlights. You have to aim them lower than the halogens for the best results. Just for the record, I have 4300k's.

[twinj]

better than mine so that's not saying alot.

Thats not your car is it?

[blackshine007]

^^That green bucket of bolts is mine. I would agree that I would loose all contests when it came to looks. But I could care less about looks. It's what's under the hood that counts :ninja:

[twinj]

^^That green bucket of bolts is mine. I would agree that I would loose all contests when it came to looks. But I could care less about looks. It's what's under the hood that counts :ninja:

Nah I asked cause I seen your car before, and just didn't think that it was yours. That 626 is clean though all you need is to STOP WRITING ON YOUR SH!T, and to wash it you'll be golden.lol


What about the H.I.D.S that are considered DOT approved? Anyone

[RL...]

that statement is precisely why we had issues earlier.

we had issues?:???:

anyways I think my car looks good, I'm not like omg my car is the ****! because it's not, but when someone calls me a ricer I am just defending myself and my car. :goodjob:

[Got Milk?]

that list is tupid.

WTF, BOV stupid mod? mmm hello, every car comes with a BOV. and after market BOV's wont go PSSSHHH PSHHH if you dont reach certain rpms, and if u let go of the gas slowely.

ANd DIY suspension is stupid?

I would never let anyone but me do my lowering on my car.

[blackshine007]

Nah I asked cause I seen your car before, and just didn't think that it was yours. That 626 is clean though all you need is to STOP WRITING ON YOUR SH!T, and to wash it you'll be golden.lol


What about the H.I.D.S that are considered DOT approved? Anyone
I don't think there's an aftermarket HID that is DOT certified for HID lights. But, I can tell you that most of your projector beam headlights are more suited to handling the light pattern of HID's. Just make sure that when you look inside the light that you have a wall looking item on the inside. It will be on the bottom side. When you shine the light on the inside, the beam gets reversed courtesy of the the shape of the lense. The block off plate is what is causing the cut off line when you turn the headlights on and point them at the wall. I think it's safe to say that as long as you have the block off plate within the inside of the light housing, it should be more than adequete(?) for HID's just be sure to adjust the level accordingly because it's gonna be pointing higher with the HID's.

As far as the car goes, I got extremely bored oneday and went crazy with my daughter's concrete chalk. I've since washed it. I want to primer it and paint it satin black and leave at that. I have zero primering skills but I'm pretty certain that if I tried, I'll probably do pretty well.

[blackshine007]

that list is tupid.

WTF, BOV stupid mod? mmm hello, every car comes with a BOV. and after market BOV's wont go PSSSHHH PSHHH if you dont reach certain rpms, and if u let go of the gas slowely.

ANd DIY suspension is stupid?

I would never let anyone but me do my lowering on my car.
It's not really how high you rev it, but how much of a load you have on engine. Some cars at a stand still won't spool their turbo's very easy. That's mostly due to tuning. And for the record, not every turbo car came with a BOV or bypass valve, granted they suffered more from compressor surge due to the lack of BOVs. To know what a vehicle without a BOV sounds like, go stand at your MARTA bus stop. When the driver lets off it, you'll hear that god aweful sound that's going on with the turbo..... That's the compressor trying to spin backwards from lack of BOV.

I can pretty much agree with the DIY suspension. Cut or heat springs in my book is a no no, particularly the heated springs. I can tolerate cut springs, just as long as it was cut off a bigger vehicle with a higher spring rate so when you cut it for your hieght, you won't have a bouncy ride.

[Elbow]

Compressor surge sounds bad ass ;)

[JuStCrUzIn]

[QUOTE=blackshine007]It's not really how high you rev it, but how much of a load you have on engine. Some cars at a stand still won't spool their turbo's very easy. That's mostly due to tuning. And for the record, not every turbo car came with a BOV or bypass valve, granted they suffered more from compressor surge due to the lack of BOVs. To know what a vehicle without a BOV sounds like, go stand at your MARTA bus stop. When the driver lets off it, you'll hear that god aweful sound that's going on with the turbo..... That's the compressor trying to spin backwards from lack of BOV.

thats funny cus a buses brake system uses air instead of fluid, air moves faster than fluid and has more stopping power than a fluid system. can you guess what charges the air tanks for the brake system? and also when the air presure reaches around 120 psi in the tanks there is a air release valve that lets some air out. sound familiar?

[Revmaynard]

Lol, I didn't even read anything but the first few posts. I guess someone drawing on their car with chalk is cooler than HID's.:rolleyes:

[RL...]

Lol, I didn't even read anything but the first few posts. I guess someone drawing on their car with chalk is cooler than HID's.:rolleyes:

:goodjob:

[tdurr]

lol at the "ricey exhaust" vid. deff is a bridgeported fd, wit a 2 step... noob cake...
but the bov is the only thing i got a problem with. Surprised neons werent on there... or bodykits...

[VooDooXII]

Everyone's wrong (http://www.kalecoauto.com/). These are the worst "mods" for your car.

[industrial_1]

http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=30

:lmao:

imo i like how the FD sounded. rotary idle = :D

[antiv6]

I can pretty much agree with the DIY suspension. Cut or heat springs in my book is a no no, particularly the heated springs. I can tolerate cut springs, just as long as it was cut off a bigger vehicle with a higher spring rate so when you cut it for your hieght, you won't have a bouncy ride.
if you have non progressive springs cutting them wont change the spring rate, so some cars are fine to cut with no ride quality change:goodjob: ex:03-04 cobras

[blackshine007]

Lol, I didn't even read anything but the first few posts. I guess someone drawing on their car with chalk is cooler than HID's.:rolleyes:
Why you gotta break ballz? :2up:

Why couldn't I just be bored at the time? Extremely bored? Huh? Why?

[Atlblkz06]

Funny you should post this.

I saw a black maxipad today with HID bulb on a stock Halogen system. The light was going everywhere and barely anything was visible in front of the car.

The best part is, he probably doesnt think this is a problem and likes his "mod".

I dont care how you mod your car - if you blind me, then YES I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

[RL...]

Funny you should post this.

I saw a black maxipad today with HID bulb on a stock Halogen system. The light was going everywhere and barely anything was visible in front of the car.

The best part is, he probably doesnt think this is a problem and likes his "mod".

I dont care how you mod your car - if you blind me, then YES I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

listen man...not to sound like a complete *******, I could care less about you. And like I said, yesterday I aimed my lights up higher to make sure I blind ppl. :D

[blackshine007]

listen man...not to sound like a complete *******, I could care less about you. And like I said, yesterday I aimed my lights up higher to make sure I blind ppl. :D
So you'd rather endanger other's safety just because you could care less on the risks of someone running off the road due to them being blinded? So let's say your mother and father was carrying your sister and brother in the family car down the road and you just so happened to to be passing them up and they couldn't concentrate on the road ahead because it was being blinded. Your father tries to aim for the white line because the yellow line isn't in his site line. He barely sees it and goes momentarily flying off the road, catches a flat from the set of broken tree branches and is stranded. The point to my story is this, your stupidity is endangering others lives. That's all I'm trying to get you to see.

[Elbow]

listen man...not to sound like a complete *******, I could care less about you. And like I said, yesterday I aimed my lights up higher to make sure I blind ppl. :D

BAN.

You are such a ****ing ***** I could tell that when I met you though.

You got ****TY game for girls too LMFAO

[AnthonyF]

I agree with the HID's/ I went out and bought 200 buck HID's for my truck b/c they are correct for my halogen housing. I dont glare like an ******* and dont blind everyone coming at me.

-Ant.

[alpine_aw11]

listen man...not to sound like a complete *******, I could care less about you. And like I said, yesterday I aimed my lights up higher to make sure I blind ppl. :D

If I were to see you driving at night I'd definitely slam into your ass. It would be your fault, and you would get to buy me a new car for being such a ****stain on society.

[Ed]

ah man... 3/7... guess im a ricer...

wing, blow off valve, and exhaust... :eek:

[DeeAOne]

well i did angle my HID's down some. does that make it any better? lol

you would think 3k's arent very bright but damn they light up everything.

[Sammich]

my HIDs need to be angled up..just a bit..not much though..i'm not tryna blind..but i'm also trying to see

[Catnip]

I've owned both on many cars/race cars, never seen one break personally unless you are slamming gears..which is pointless anyway.

The faster you shift, the lower 1/4 mile time. I broke my buddy's ebay STS (I had been driving my mustang 5.0 w/stock shifter, so I could slam gears, got in his honda with a ebay STS and broke that bish in half)


As far as the 7 mods (from my experience and my opinion):

7. Truck Nutz- LULZ, dumbest sh*t ever. agree.
6. Fake Chrome- Cheesy. Looks cheap. Real chrome is nice though.
5. BOV- WTF? A blow off valve is an awesome mod to a DSM (one of the cars that has to recirc) as the stock can only hold 11-12psi. If the cars needs to be recirc'ed, then do it, but that doesn't make it stupid or useless.
4. Race Clutch in 200hp DD- I personally like a hard grabbing clutch. One reason I got rid of my 2g GST is because I put a OEM style duralast clutch in it. My GSX has a Spec Stage 3. I <3 it.
3. Cheap exhaust- I've had some cheap exhaust set ups and some nicer set ups. My cheaper set ups sounded better.
2. Wings/spoilers- I think some look very good, some not so much. If you're rocking a mugen wing on your RSX or a ITR on your LS, sweet, sh*t looks ballin.
1. Suspension mods- Ummm, wow. I've had cut springs, ebay coilovers, skunk2 sleeve coilovers, stock springs, skunk2 lowering springs, eibach lowering springs, etc. My cut spring cars rode nice, handling improved drastically. Ebay coilovers were semi bouncy, but not too bad. Skunk2 coilovers were very smooth, but not very stiff. Skunk2 lowering springs were harder than my eibachs, so they handled a bit better, but my car with cut springs felt better.


All in all, 6 and 7 from that list were good. The rest was pretty much stupid.

[RL...]

LOL I didn't really aim my headlights up to spite anyone...I was just j/k

My headlights are aimed at about what they should be but I'm sure they still do glare and blah blah blah damn near everyone has HID's in halogen headlights so everyone can cry about that all they want, no one is going to change it. And btw, cars that come stock with HID's would blind me too, but I have 5% tint:D


Simon tibbett, I've never met you outside of this forum, and if I did, I would hope you'd talk all the **** you do here to my face...:D Get off my nuts

[Sammich]

GO TO YOUR THREAD U FUKIN RICER

OH..AND I DO AGREE..FACTORY HID CARS..PRIMARILY BIMMERS AND MERCEDES BLIND ME ALSO

[alpine_aw11]

I really just don't see the point in putting HIDS in your halogen set ups. I mean if your stock headlights don't do it well enough you need to get your eyes checked. HID bulbs=ricer mod.

[Ed]

I really just don't see the point in putting HIDS in your halogen set ups. I mean if your stock headlights don't do it well enough you need to get your eyes checked. HID bulbs=ricer mod.

what if you have projectors but the car comes with halogen from the manufacturer, and you install HIDs, is that still considered rice? :lmfao:

[Sammich]

WELL CALL ME A RICER...BUT I CAN SEE BETTER. GOING FROM MY TRUCK W/ H4 BULBS TO MY MAXIMA W/ H4 BULBS THEN SEEING THE CHANGE FROM HALOGEN BULBS TO HIDS...NIGHT AND DAY SON..SRSLY.

CALL ME A RICER IF U WANT, BUT ITS ALL DONE AND I ENJOY THEM...SO KICK ROCKS

[Ed]

btw, buying projector headlights ftl...

http://www.slickcar.com/products/SP-HD005-CP-P2.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/sk8munky2001/headlights/P1020480.jpg

**** is so fvkin ugly.

[Sammich]

EBAY PROJECTORS FTMFW LOL

[ATL_EG]

even tho a lightweight flywheel+race clutch in a 200whp car isn't that necesary (and a B!TCH for dd) it's a lot more fun to drive imo

[alpine_aw11]

what if you have projectors but the car comes with halogen from the manufacturer, and you install HIDs, is that still considered rice? :lmfao:

Ewwww projectors. All I'm saying if you drive a car with lights that aren't properly set up to run HID's, that's a ricer mod imo. People that buy egay HID's and throw them in their 90's honda and spray bright ass light all over the road and blind people piss me off. Do it right is all I'm saying. I know HID's make a difference, but my Silverstar halogens are more than adequate for me and don't make me look like an asshat to everyone on the road.

[alpine_aw11]

WELL CALL ME A RICER...BUT I CAN SEE BETTER. GOING FROM MY TRUCK W/ H4 BULBS TO MY MAXIMA W/ H4 BULBS THEN SEEING THE CHANGE FROM HALOGEN BULBS TO HIDS...NIGHT AND DAY SON..SRSLY.

CALL ME A RICER IF U WANT, BUT ITS ALL DONE AND I ENJOY THEM...SO KICK ROCKS

RICER!

[twinj]

Joins ricer club

[Ed]

Ewwww projectors. All I'm saying if you drive a car with lights that aren't properly set up to run HID's, that's a ricer mod imo. People that buy egay HID's and throw them in their 90's honda and spray bright ass light all over the road and blind people piss me off. Do it right is all I'm saying. I know HID's make a difference, but my Silverstar halogens are more than adequate for me and don't make me look like an asshat to everyone on the road.

well i got hids in my integra. :lmfao: and it looks good and it doesnt blind people so there. :tongue1:

[alpine_aw11]

well i got hids in my integra. :lmfao: and it looks good and it doesnt blind people so there. :tongue1:

:cheers: As long as you're not one of these douchenozzles blinding everyone then it's cool.

[JITB]

I had Hid's and i blinded folks... my bad i even blinded myself... :lmfao:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/jitb37/contour/IMG_2009-1.jpg

[Elbow]

LOL I didn't really aim my headlights up to spite anyone...I was just j/k

My headlights are aimed at about what they should be but I'm sure they still do glare and blah blah blah damn near everyone has HID's in halogen headlights so everyone can cry about that all they want, no one is going to change it. And btw, cars that come stock with HID's would blind me too, but I have 5% tint:D


Simon tibbett, I've never met you outside of this forum, and if I did, I would hope you'd talk all the **** you do here to my face...:D Get off my nuts

Yessir you did, at the V with Mary you were trying to talk to the girl I was with lol.

[Elbow]

I had Hid's and i blinded folks... my bad i even blinded myself... :lmfao:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/jitb37/contour/IMG_2009-1.jpg

But that car was sexy enough it's ok to blind people with that :goodjob:

[green91]

I had a skunk2 STS break off at the ball and leave me stranded lol. I wasnt even shifting hard at the time it broke. However my stock shifter that got reinstalled has been going 17+ years strong.

[Nex]

HAHA ricers and beaners FTW. one of the worst ways that i could think of is when someone welds a aftermarket muffler on. i dont car if its a 1000 dollar muffler its not a cat system. i mean cmon it sounds like sheet and feels like sheet. it's just not the whole catback exhaust system. alot of them sounds like fart when they drive by and they dont even know it LOL damn mufflers.

[green91]

Like people that lower cars but still ride around on steelies/hubcaps with stock tires?

[Terror]

http://www.spike.com/blog/seven-worst-ways-to/67863

Let me add a few things onto that......


HID + non HID compliant lamps = FAIL! Just because you think it looks cool to have really extremely cool colors coming from your lights means it's actually safe. The light pattern that is projected with diamond reflector type headlamps and projectors is way more controlled vs. the standard halogen lense, which scatters the light pattern and thus blinds everyone else on the road. I hope you get a ticket a thousand times over.


Short throw shifters, unless there was some real engineering put into, in short is an overall dumb idea. The whole intent of the STS is to reduce the throw of the shifter thus increasing the speed time of gear selection in between gears which means if you increase the length below the pivot point, the fulcrum must also be increased as well because you also increase the effort need to select your gears. The dumb part of it is when the length below the pivot is increased by a good bit and the fulcrum is shortened, extreme notchiness is the direct result. Also, these style STS contribute to synchro wear and eventually failure. Scatching gears recently?


Bigger injectors, fuel rail, and stronger fuel pump on a stock n/a motor doesn't equal a faster car. It means an overall slower car that's drinking more fuel due to the time the injectors are being left open with the factory settings. The factory parts have been painstakingly designed to produce enough power with plenty of room to adjust for failure. Your car can run rich on it's on if there's a problem. More fuel doesn't mean more power. More air + more fuel = more power. If you can increase the CFM (the flow of air) of your motor, you'll make more power. without having to increase injector or fuel pump size.



I hope some of this helps ya'll.




This is nothing but ignorant babble. There is NOTHING wrong with HID bulbs in halogen housings, your not gonna blind anyone its called adjust the beam downward. Many short throw shifters are designed specifically to increase shift feel so it doesnt feel like your controlling a slush box, so your point there is not valid either. And i like how you sit here trying to explain something you read about using big words to make yourself sound smart. Bigger injectors, fuel rail and stronger fuel pump are SUPPORTING MODS and they DO increase power, NA or FI. when is the last time you heard somebody tell you that they just got some high flow injectors, or a 255lph fuel pump and explained how much power it would make? probabley never, because it never happens. These are used to create power when extra fuel is needed. Dont sit here and tell people how they should be modding there car and try to support it with big words, you sound like an idiot. It makes sense though, cause usually dumb ass threads like this come from people who havent ever really modded a car and drive a raggedy as$ car themselves. like you. :2cents:

[1SICKLEX]

This is nothing but ignorant babble. There is NOTHING wrong with HID bulbs in halogen housings, your not gonna blind anyone its called adjust the beam downward. Many short throw shifters are designed specifically to increase shift feel so it doesnt feel like your controlling a slush box, so your point there is not valid either. And i like how you sit here trying to explain something you read about using big words to make yourself sound smart. Bigger injectors, fuel rail and stronger fuel pump are SUPPORTING MODS and they DO increase power, NA or FI. when is the last time you heard somebody tell you that they just got some high flow injectors, or a 255lph fuel pump and explained how much power it would make? probabley never, because it never happens. These are used to create power when extra fuel is needed. Dont sit here and tell people how they should be modding there car and try to support it with big words, you sound like an idiot. It makes sense though, cause usually dumb ass threads like this come from people who havent ever really modded a car and drive a raggedy as$ car themselves. like you. :2cents:

I disagree. All these HIDs in headlights not designed for them = unlawful for one and unthoughtful. What the hell is cool about putting them in a car not meant for them?

Do it right. It is dangerous and ANNOYING.

There is a reason the govt. mandates OEM HID is 4300k in a cerain headlight range. To be safe.

Thats not to say only expensive cars can have HID or do it right. The Ford Focus (last one) had HID avail in the Sony editon. The 1999-2003 ACura TL/CL headlights are stolen in 20 seconds b/c their cheap asses designed the headlights with one bolt and anyone can pop out the entire headlight.

What is worse is these big 4x4 trucks with 9k HIDs blinding the crap outta traffic.

I

[Ed]

Like people that lower cars but still ride around on steelies/hubcaps with stock tires?
i agree. lowered cars on steelies ftl.

[RL...]

Everyone that hates one Hid's in halogen headlights are anal pricks. It's not that big of a deal, cars with stock HID's blind as well. Especially those big ass escalades with the 6k's.

[blackshine007]

This is nothing but ignorant babble. There is NOTHING wrong with HID bulbs in halogen housings, your not gonna blind anyone its called adjust the beam downward. Many short throw shifters are designed specifically to increase shift feel so it doesnt feel like your controlling a slush box, so your point there is not valid either. And i like how you sit here trying to explain something you read about using big words to make yourself sound smart. Bigger injectors, fuel rail and stronger fuel pump are SUPPORTING MODS and they DO increase power, NA or FI. when is the last time you heard somebody tell you that they just got some high flow injectors, or a 255lph fuel pump and explained how much power it would make? probabley never, because it never happens. These are used to create power when extra fuel is needed. Dont sit here and tell people how they should be modding there car and try to support it with big words, you sound like an idiot. It makes sense though, cause usually dumb ass threads like this come from people who havent ever really modded a car and drive a raggedy as$ car themselves. like you. :2cents:
Looks like the only ignorant person here when it comes to this subject is you. Not only have I provided proof, but there's multiple articles that talk about this. Just because your car comes with projectors + HID's naturally leaves you ignorant to the subject of composite lensed headlights that were naturally designed for halogen. Nitro has discussed it, I've brought it up a few times. As far is aiming the lights downward, that's possible when you're running projectors. I think I mentioned that in one of my post in this thread, but that's only if you're running projectors. Actually, your whole arguement isn't so much as ignorance but rather stupidity. Had you have read either of my posts, I would've answered all your stupid remarks. I have quite a few years of automotive experience, I think I know what mods do for what individual purpose. But I can expect this type of commentary from a ricer fanboy anyways so in a way, I was expecting someone to come around and talk out of their a$s.
And as far as modding cars go, I have less of the stock parts on my car than you have aftermarket. There's not 1 bolt on my car that haven't been turned. Just because it "looks" ragedy doesn't mean it is.

[eViLMunkey]

I do agree w/ the lens dispersion pattern on HID Vs. Halogen there is a difference on what type of bulb and intensity of light going through them. I have had no problems w/ my Edelbrock STS for the 2 years I've had it and it wasn't expensive at all. . but I did make sure it egaged gears properly when I installed it.. As it was stated before, incorrect instillation can and will cause damage/problems

[blackshine007]

I do agree w/ the lens dispersion pattern on HID Vs. Halogen there is a difference on what type of bulb and intensity of light going through them. I have had no problems w/ my Edelbrock STS for the 2 years I've had it and it wasn't expensive at all. . but I did make sure it egaged gears properly when I installed it.. As it was stated before, incorrect instillation can and will cause damage/
I can agree with everything you just said. I think I mentioned in my first post the words "If properly engineered" then an STS will last. Some makers of STS build it to where it only looks cool and haven't taken any time to work out all the bugs. In the process, too short of a throw would hurt synchros. I explained that as well.

[Terror]

Looks like the only ignorant person here when it comes to this subject is you. Not only have I provided proof, but there's multiple articles that talk about this. Just because your car comes with projectors + HID's naturally leaves you ignorant to the subject of composite lensed headlights that were naturally designed for halogen. Nitro has discussed it, I've brought it up a few times. As far is aiming the lights downward, that's possible when you're running projectors. I think I mentioned that in one of my post in this thread, but that's only if you're running projectors. Actually, your whole arguement isn't so much as ignorance but rather stupidity. Had you have read either of my posts, I would've answered all your stupid remarks. I have quite a few years of automotive experience, I think I know what mods do for what individual purpose. But I can expect this type of commentary from a ricer fanboy anyways so in a way, I was expecting someone to come around and talk out of their a$s.
And as far as modding cars go, I have less of the stock parts on my car than you have aftermarket. There's not 1 bolt on my car that haven't been turned. Just because it "looks" ragedy doesn't mean it is.

Its funny you assume because i drive the car i do, thats all ive known. I have owned modified, and tuned more cars than you can even dream of. If you are trying to state that with a halogen designed headlamp that you cannot adjust your beam downward you are a complete asshat, because you CAN. No, they are not designed for those bulbs, but it does not make you a ricer for running them. I dont give a fu*k about your "articles" and its funny you mention nitro aswell, when he himself has HID bulbs in halogen housings. The point is, modifying and personalizing a car is intended to do things that were not meant to be done, and its people like you, who decide they want to set the rules on what is rice, and what is not and it makes you look pathetic.

[Terror]

I disagree. All these HIDs in headlights not designed for them = unlawful for one and unthoughtful. What the hell is cool about putting them in a car not meant for them?

Do it right. It is dangerous and ANNOYING.

There is a reason the govt. mandates OEM HID is 4300k in a cerain headlight range. To be safe.

Thats not to say only expensive cars can have HID or do it right. The Ford Focus (last one) had HID avail in the Sony editon. The 1999-2003 ACura TL/CL headlights are stolen in 20 seconds b/c their cheap asses designed the headlights with one bolt and anyone can pop out the entire headlight.

What is worse is these big 4x4 trucks with 9k HIDs blinding the crap outta traffic.

I


I agree with alot of what your saying and alot of it i dont. My point in this argument is these things can be done safely, and you dont have to go out and blind traffic with HID's. It is possible in many vehicles to adjust the beam downward to offset the brighter lightsource.

[Sammich]

I disagree. All these HIDs in headlights not designed for them = unlawful for one and unthoughtful. What the hell is cool about putting them in a car not meant for them?

Do it right. It is dangerous and ANNOYING.

There is a reason the govt. mandates OEM HID is 4300k in a cerain headlight range. To be safe.

Thats not to say only expensive cars can have HID or do it right. The Ford Focus (last one) had HID avail in the Sony editon. The 1999-2003 ACura TL/CL headlights are stolen in 20 seconds b/c their cheap asses designed the headlights with one bolt and anyone can pop out the entire headlight.

What is worse is these big 4x4 trucks with 9k HIDs blinding the crap outta traffic.

I

personally this is the only time i have ever been blinded w/ HIDs in halogen lamps, seriously

[Sammich]

I agree with alot of what your saying and alot of it i dont. My point in this argument is these things can be done safely, and you dont have to go out and blind traffic with HID's. It is possible in many vehicles to adjust the beam downward to offset the brighter lightsource.

qft and repped if possible:goodjob:

i need to adjust my beams just a tad bit upwards so i will feel comfortable on dark roads at night

[Catnip]

I get blinded by DEEAONE's HIDs ALL THE TIME.

[blackshine007]

Its funny you assume because i drive the car i do, thats all ive known. I have owned modified, and tuned more cars than you can even dream of. If you are trying to state that with a halogen designed headlamp that you cannot adjust your beam downward you are a complete asshat, because you CAN. No, they are not designed for those bulbs, but it does not make you a ricer for running them. I dont give a fu*k about your "articles" and its funny you mention nitro aswell, when he himself has HID bulbs in halogen housings. The point is, modifying and personalizing a car is intended to do things that were not meant to be done, and its people like you, who decide they want to set the rules on what is rice, and what is not and it makes you look pathetic.
I see which style headlights you're talking about. You're talking about the ones with the diamond reflective background. Those are in many ways like projectors and can be aimed downwards, but even then only some of them. The composite styles (the ones with the pattern etched on the lense) cannot. They spread light all over.

If you wanna get into an insulting "gorilla beats chest" arguement, do it somewhere else. I'm not about to argue any more with you.