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So apparently I've got a Kia hookup. A service manager at a Kia dealership plays golf regularly with my father and has offered to get us a Kia at dealer cost. I'm not sure what that equates too, but it sound a lot like "cheaper" to me. As much as I love the Stang, if I can swap the Stang in on a Spectra5 and come out under $20K total, I'll probably wind up doing it. I gotta go talk to the guy tomorrow to run the numbers and test drive one.
I'm only considering the Spectra5 right now because it's basically a rebadged Protege5. Sport wagon (station wagon) with sport suspension, 140HP, 4-wheel disk brakes, 16" wheels, and it actually doesn't look tht bad. It has pretty much all the basics that I'm looking for. Adequate power, a 5-speed, good gas mileage, and a jack for my MP3 player. Looking at one in black. I figured with wheels, tint, exhaust, and a drop it look pretty decent.
Thoughts? Please keep the "Kia's are crap" comments to a minimum. Thanks.
KDM>JDM
09-02-2008, 02:25 PM
not bad, especially if your getting the hook up.
Atlblkz06
09-02-2008, 02:27 PM
Well if its the truth, its the truth.
Three of my buddies (my friends, not friends' friends) bought a Kia and said they'd never do it again.
BUT, if this is a rebadged Protege as you say, it might be a GREAT idea. Protege quality (is that good?) and Kia price - especially with the discount.
If the price is right, I say go for it!
Any ideas what the difference is between Base Price and Dealer Cost?
mocha latte cupcake
09-02-2008, 02:30 PM
I say do it man! the stang is nice but with rising gas prices, and a cheaper insurance, and honestly they aren't bad cars. the KIA around here business is up a RIDICULOUS amount! they seem to be good cars besides.... wagons equal win!
i'd say with a car like that there is about 3-4k in it. the sentras here @ nissan have like 3.2 in them from what i understand
Revmaynard
09-02-2008, 02:33 PM
I say do it man! the stang is nice but with rising gas prices, and a cheaper insurance, and honestly they aren't bad cars. the KIA around here business is up a RIDICULOUS amount! they seem to be good cars besides.... wagons equal win!
i'd say with a car like that there is about 3-4k in it. the sentras here @ nissan have like 3.2 in them from what i understand
Can't agree more. Hehe.:D
If this helps your car situation out then go for it. You may have some extra cash to throw in a project later. The Protege5 is an awesome car, they're very comfortable and the interior isn't bad.
Dwisforme05
09-02-2008, 02:36 PM
There is a kid in rome who just got one of those htinkin hes all big and bad. he ran a 18.2 at the track. couldnt break 18s. for that money who could buy ALOT nicer car. the interior isnt the greatest either. getting it for a DD? you can get the new altima 2.5s for right around the same price and that car is a hell of alot nicer. interior looks, exterior looks, and performance.
Nerdsrock22
09-02-2008, 02:37 PM
I had no idea they were related to the Protege5.
If you are looking to stay under $20k, I would think you would have a lot more options though. :thinking:
mocha latte cupcake
09-02-2008, 02:38 PM
i don't think the point here is to have big power though. its to get a different car that is "new"er even by a little bit, lower payments, and all the other costs... sure there are "nicer" cars for the money but seriously. when you're costs to own a car are basically nothing... why care?
Dwisforme05
09-02-2008, 02:38 PM
not to mention Kia's have one of the WORST re-sale values.
Nerdsrock22
09-02-2008, 02:40 PM
not to mention Kia's have one of the WORST re-sale values.
x2.
Why not pick up a Fit or Versa for that price, and avoid the depreciation?
mocha latte cupcake
09-02-2008, 02:41 PM
i would say that um... amy. DO NOT GET A VERSA! j00 will h8 it! b/c i <3 nissans and I even hate them!
Nerdsrock22
09-02-2008, 02:44 PM
well i didn't want to just say the Fit and sound biased, and I refuse to recommend a yaris, so it was all I had.
mocha latte cupcake
09-02-2008, 02:49 PM
bwhahaha AMY get a yaris again! EPIC WIN! BRING RINI BACK! DO IT DO IT DO IT! lol
i think he's just looking for something over the 120 hp mark...
i'd say a protege 5 or that kia... being that i don't see any other cars in the 140+ space thats either attractive or in the bottom price range.
yaris and fit are under the 140 hp mark
and the versa is just trash (trust me you'll sell your sould to get out of it!)
mazda 3 = MOAR money
and i really can't think of any more past that
There is a kid in rome who just got one of those htinkin hes all big and bad. he ran a 18.2 at the track. couldnt break 18s.Not looking to go fast. The only "go-fast" parts the car would see is maybe an intake/exhaust setup and some small suspension tid-bits. Looking for just a daily. I can get a project later.
getting it for a DD? you can get the new altima 2.5s for right around the same price and that car is a hell of alot nicer. interior looks, exterior looks, and performance.I test drove a 2.5 Altima and hated it. The 2.5 has no business in that car. Felt like a total turd. Also, I can't get an Altima at dealer cost. :goodjob:
bwhahaha AMY get a yaris again! EPIC WIN! BRING RINI BACK! DO IT DO IT DO IT! lollol, nah I'm good.
i'd say a protege 5 or that kia... being that i don't see any other cars in the 140+ space thats either attractive or in the bottom price range.I love the Protege5, but they're long gone and I can't flip $7K onto a used car.
the versa is just trash (trust me you'll sell your sould to get out of it!)I've driven Versa's before. I didn't like it and I think they're ugly as hell.
mocha latte cupcake
09-02-2008, 02:52 PM
i say get the kia man! make it simple and sekshi! :D
Revmaynard
09-02-2008, 02:53 PM
The Fit would be an awesome choice. I'd recommend a Fit, Protege5, or even a Protege. But that's just me. I mean, it's not going to be newer if you get the Protege/5. But they're NICE cars.
mocha latte cupcake
09-02-2008, 02:54 PM
i would start to think that the point is that its a "trade" there is no real "selling time" involved...
VooDooXII
09-02-2008, 02:56 PM
That's one of the few Kias I like...they're stylish, pretty solid, and a relatively sporty driver compared to its contemporaries. Not quite as refined or well-finished as its Japanese rivals, but you get that rock-solid warranty, and a thousands-less price. It's a good bit of kit...I'd say go for it.
You guys are missing the point completely. Allow me to reiterate...
I'M GETTING A KIA BECAUSE I CAN GET IT AT DEALER COST AND NOT LOSE MY @SS ON MY MUSTANG WHEN I TRADE IT IN. I CAN'T DO THAT WITH OTHER CARS.
My question was, what do you think of the Kia and my proposed move? Thoughts, comments, advice?
mocha latte cupcake
09-02-2008, 02:57 PM
GAMBATTE AMY3~! IKE!
That's one of the few Kias I like...they're stylish, pretty solid, and a relatively sporty driver compared to its contemporaries. Not quite as refined or well-finished as its Japanese rivals, but you get that rock-solid warranty, and a thousands-less price. It's a good bit of kit...I'd say go for it.That's pretty much my stance on it. I think they look pretty good for a Kia wagon. It'd by my first 5-Door though. Not sure how I feel about that. lol
Revmaynard
09-02-2008, 02:59 PM
I don't really think you're going to like the Kia, but I say go ahead and get it because of the money you're going to save in gas/insurance. :goodjob:
mocha latte cupcake
09-02-2008, 03:01 PM
http://www.globalgiants.com/archives/fotos5/Kia-Spectra5_SX_rear.jpg
Revmaynard
09-02-2008, 03:03 PM
There is nothing wrong with a 5 door! I love mine, it's so convenient, small, but roomy at the same time. I can lay and sleep in my wagon if I wanted, but it's still smaller than most family sedans.
I don't really think you're going to like the Kia, but I say go ahead and get it because of the money you're going to save in gas/insurance. :goodjob:I didn't think I was going to like the Yaris either but that car was fun as hell. lol
should have kept the yaris
should have kept the yarisVery true. The Mustang was an impulse buy and I'm realizing it more and more everyday.
Nerdsrock22
09-02-2008, 03:15 PM
should have kept the yaris
pics of said yaris?
slostang
09-02-2008, 03:16 PM
chevy is running the employee pricing sale. I'd strongly suggest looking at the HHR SS model. you'll be very suprised when you sift through the #'s.
mocha latte cupcake
09-02-2008, 03:20 PM
RINI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
pics of said yaris?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Nismosis/Cars/Yaris/NightYaris.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Nismosis/Cars/Yaris/IMG_1209.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Nismosis/Cars/Yaris/IMG_1208.jpg
chevy is running the employee pricing sale. I'd strongly suggest looking at the HHR SS model. you'll be very suprised when you sift through the #'s.Not interested in the HHR at all. Thanks though. :)
mocha latte cupcake
09-02-2008, 03:26 PM
*edit: interesting how in ALL the pictures of rini, lucy is present yet SOMEONE is hogging the camera to herself... very interesting amy san....! :ninja: :2up: lolololol
Crazy Asian
09-02-2008, 03:28 PM
HYUNDAI!!!!! Eh I dont mind the look. But not sure about it's reliability.
Nerdsrock22
09-02-2008, 03:28 PM
Is that a TRD wing?
definitely not a bad looking little car. (that was tough to get out ;) ) :cheers:
Is that a TRD wing?Nah, the TRD "spoiler" was this microscopic lip thing. Looked retarded. The one you see is the Canadian Rally Spoiler. :goodjob:
definitely not a bad looking little car. (that was tough to get out ;) ) :cheers:It was fun for what little I could do with it at the time.
Canadian Rally Spoiler
Toyota Splash Guards
Rear Debadge
17" Racing Hart CR's
TRD Shocks & Struts
TRD Springs
TRD Rear Sway Bar
TRD Short Shifter
Tanabe Front Strut Tower Bar
F5 Fujita Cold Air Intake
Megan Racing 4-1 Shorty Header
Blitz NuR-Spec Axle-Back Exhaust
Speedhut Tachometer
There were some other things, but I can't think of them right now. Pretty much the same mods I would to the Spectra5 should I get it. Light mods, but noticeable. :goodjob:
Nerdsrock22
09-02-2008, 03:42 PM
Pretty much the same mods I would to the Spectra5 should I get it. Light mods, but noticeable. :goodjob:
Best way to go.
How much can be transferred from the Protege5? I remember there being a pretty big fan base for those cars.
boosted b
09-02-2008, 03:45 PM
i work at kia some of them are crappy and not to mention kind of expensive to work on if u don't keep up the warranty
How much can be transferred from the Protege5? I remember there being a pretty big fan base for those cars.Not sure yet. I hopped on Kia-Forums to check it out and ask some questions. Mods seem to be in short supply, but Kia's in-house performance, Kia Sport, has things for sale. Short-shifters, intakes, exhausts, springs, shocks/struts, sway bars, strut bars, ect...
There's not a big aftermarket for the car, but there's enough for me to do what I want.
Nerdsrock22
09-02-2008, 03:50 PM
Not sure yet. I hopped on Kia-Forums to check it out and ask some questions. Mods seem to be in short supply, but Kia's in-house performance, Kia Sport, has things for sale. Short-shifters, intakes, exhausts, springs, shocks/struts, sway bars, strut bars, ect...
There's not a big aftermarket for the car, but there's enough for me to do what I want.
From the sound of it, it looks like Kia offers more than Honda does for the Fit. All HFP offers for the Fit is some overpriced wheels and an ugly muffler. I think its wise choice. :goodjob:
boosted b
09-02-2008, 04:00 PM
most of those aftermarket parts are for cars like the rondo and spectra 5
most of those aftermarket parts are for cars like the rondo and spectra 5Considering how I want to get a Spectra5, that works out pretty well.
VooDooXII
09-02-2008, 04:04 PM
I think the Rio5 looks even better, though probably not as fun. If only they sold the Cee'd here.
Z33_kid
09-02-2008, 04:08 PM
kool man good luck
I think the Rio5 looks even better, though probably not as fun.The Rio5 looks too much like a Focus IMO. :dunno:
If only they sold the Cee'd here.Just google'd some images and I like everything but the taillights. That and it's a little long.
Black R
09-02-2008, 04:10 PM
why trade in your mustang at all? for the $, you might as well go back to a yaris.....
why trade in your mustang at all? for the $, you might as well go back to a yaris.....High monthly note, high insurance, gas mileage, take your pick. lol
I should have kept the Yaris in the first place. Stupid impulse buy. :(
VooDooXII
09-02-2008, 04:22 PM
I was pretty shocked to see that you bought a Mustang...especially right after George got his. Haha...taking the "Import" out of ImportAtlanta.
Come see me and I will give you the hook up on a Honda and you'll have something that will still be worth owning in a few years.
VooDooXII
09-02-2008, 04:27 PM
Wait, so are the Protege5 and the Spectra5 actually related, or are they just that similar?
IndianStig
09-02-2008, 04:44 PM
You guys are missing the point completely. Allow me to reiterate...
I'M GETTING A KIA BECAUSE I CAN GET IT AT DEALER COST AND NOT LOSE MY @SS ON MY MUSTANG WHEN I TRADE IT IN. I CAN'T DO THAT WITH OTHER CARS.
My question was, what do you think of the Kia and my proposed move? Thoughts, comments, advice?
get the Kia if its financially right for you. Don't ask IA questions about kia you stupid pedo.
protege5 was nice, that will be nice too and have a lot of room for improvement too. get it!
Atlblkz06
09-02-2008, 05:34 PM
http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=105138
Not too bad.
dohc4.6sc
09-02-2008, 07:25 PM
dude, my stepdad works at a hyundai/kia dealer i can get you that same deal pretty much. i would say wait for the genesis coupe though.
RL...
09-02-2008, 11:28 PM
kia's are garbage...get something, anything else...
stick with nissan, toyota, honda, mazda...if nothing else, keep the mustang
why downgrade, and that is a hell of a downgrade
kia's are known for their poor quality..but you just do you, and umma do me!
BKgen®
09-02-2008, 11:29 PM
lol ran after all the shyt you've given me for having a hyundai, i'll believe it when i see it :lmfao:
Alan®
09-02-2008, 11:47 PM
So apparently I've got a Kia hookup. A service manager at a Kia dealership plays golf regularly with my father and has offered to get us a Kia at dealer cost. I'm not sure what that equates too, but it sound a lot like "cheaper" to me. As much as I love the Stang, if I can swap the Stang in on a Spectra5 and come out under $20K total, I'll probably wind up doing it. I gotta go talk to the guy tomorrow to run the numbers and test drive one.
I'm only considering the Spectra5 right now because it's basically a rebadged Protege5. Sport wagon (station wagon) with sport suspension, 140HP, 4-wheel disk brakes, 16" wheels, and it actually doesn't look tht bad. It has pretty much all the basics that I'm looking for. Adequate power, a 5-speed, good gas mileage, and a jack for my MP3 player. Looking at one in black. I figured with wheels, tint, exhaust, and a drop it look pretty decent.
Thoughts? Please keep the "Kia's are crap" comments to a minimum. Thanks.
Might I inquire which store you are getting it from? A fully loaded 5 speed Spec 5 SX runs around 18K figure in a 3k rebate and you're looking at around 14K +++. (I used to work there so you can take this info to the bank.)For the love of god stay away from Union City though.
VooDooXII
09-03-2008, 12:06 AM
I'm quite sure Kia's quality has greatly improved over the years, but hey...even if things fall to ****, you've still got a monster warranty!
Dwisforme05
09-03-2008, 12:12 AM
monster warrenty with a horrible re-sale value. like someone said, if its financially right for you go for it man!
VooDooXII
09-03-2008, 12:13 AM
Ack, I never think about re-sale. :headslap:
spectre5 isnt really related to the protege5 at all.... it just looked like it alot, they share the elantra chassis. And the Elantra beta2 2.0 motor.
The only kia's that were mazda related where the 94-97 sephias, they had mazda 1.8dohc bp motors, and it wasnt really a mazda built motor. i hear it was just a direct copy built by kia.. but it was exactly the same in and out.
That Spectre5 is all hyundai...which is still good!
The Yousef
09-03-2008, 12:25 AM
get another Yaris....
...and Kia's are crap
FlipKing
09-03-2008, 01:29 AM
I owned a kia...it was reliable and good on gas. It was also so as balls. Like, I had to do a rev and drop on the clutch to get it to move. I say forget the kia and go get a spec-V sentra :)
Atlblkz06
09-03-2008, 08:17 PM
Go ahead and buy the damn thing, you got your mind set on it anyway lol.
2turbo4u
09-04-2008, 10:01 AM
Do you have proof the Spectra 5 is a rebadged P5?
Do you have proof the Spectra 5 is a rebadged P5?
its not.. its a rebadged Elantra.
The same people designed the P5 and the spectra5, thats why they look so much alike. but they are mechanicaly different.
2turbo4u
09-04-2008, 10:51 AM
I know, I just want Ran to tell us where he gets that from. He trying to justify buying the Kia with Mazda qualities.
I know, I just want Ran to tell us where he gets that from. He trying to justify buying the Kia with Mazda qualities.
lol , alot of people thought or think that it is... But supposedly it has a similar suspension setup as the p5...atleast... :goodjob: the reviews of it say its just as good!
Kevykev
09-04-2008, 09:49 PM
Do you think you will enjoy it? Buyer's Remorse might come for you Ran.
alpine_aw11
09-04-2008, 10:35 PM
Yea...you said your Stang was an impulse buy and you regret it, so really think this over. If you want it, by all means go for it. Just be patient ya know?
1SICKLEX
09-04-2008, 10:41 PM
Get the V-8 Borrengo.
I know, I just want Ran to tell us where he gets that from. He trying to justify buying the Kia with Mazda qualities.It was designed by the same people and IIRC it's running the old Mazda BP motor. I'd have to double-check though.
Either way, I test drove one and was pleasantly surprised. The car is quite spirited and handles pretty well. Body roll was at a minimum and the 140HP motor moved the little wagon in a quick (not fast) manner. The exterior is easy on the eyes with the only real eyesore being the blocky bulge on the front for a front plate, but other than that it looked really good in black. The interior was okay. The guages were a little bland and the seaweed green dials could go away. The seats weren't very comfy and offered so side support at all. They did look good though, lol. The center dash was decent with the seaweed green lighting but everything was simple and easy to figure out. The knobs felt a little cheap, but nothing aside from that. Door trims and other little dress-up bits were at a minimum but added a nice touch to what would otherwise be just another Kia interior.
I'd rate the car a 7.5/10 because of the lackluster interior, but it gets high marks in exterior appearance and fun-to-drive factor. :goodjob:
Not sure if I'll be happy with a trade-in or if it'll really help me with my financial situation in the long run. Still running some numbers so I'll check back with you guys later. :)
industrial_1
09-08-2008, 11:21 AM
Black 5door hatch ftw. :goodjob:
kfzemx3
09-08-2008, 11:44 AM
protege5 :)
Jecht
09-08-2008, 02:34 PM
It has no relation to the Protege5 or Mazda. Its a rebadged Hyundai, and it uses a Hyundai engine as well.
I have to say though that Kia is now owned by Hyundai and hopefully Hyundai's quality has spread to Kia's cars. I still probably wouldn't buy one though.
jdm>usdm
09-08-2008, 02:54 PM
Well heres my two scents. My sister bought a kia optima with the v6... and the thing made my na single slammin EJ8 feel fast. So yeah. But the kia rides nice and gets good gas milage. so just whatever your into bro.
It was designed by the same people and IIRC it's running the old Mazda BP motor. I'd have to double-check though.
Either way, I test drove one and was pleasantly surprised. The car is quite spirited and handles pretty well. Body roll was at a minimum and the 140HP motor moved the little wagon in a quick (not fast) manner. The exterior is easy on the eyes with the only real eyesore being the blocky bulge on the front for a front plate, but other than that it looked really good in black. The interior was okay. The guages were a little bland and the seaweed green dials could go away. The seats weren't very comfy and offered so side support at all. They did look good though, lol. The center dash was decent with the seaweed green lighting but everything was simple and easy to figure out. The knobs felt a little cheap, but nothing aside from that. Door trims and other little dress-up bits were at a minimum but added a nice touch to what would otherwise be just another Kia interior.
I'd rate the car a 7.5/10 because of the lackluster interior, but it gets high marks in exterior appearance and fun-to-drive factor. :goodjob:
Not sure if I'll be happy with a trade-in or if it'll really help me with my financial situation in the long run. Still running some numbers so I'll check back with you guys later. :)
naw homes, i wish it did have a bp in it, but its all hyundai, but it was designed by the same guy that did the P5 . its said to have the same handling characteristics as the P5 tho. but its no mazda...:(.
The only kia/mazda was the 94-97 Sephia's they had Bp motors in them..
RL...
09-08-2008, 05:15 PM
all kia's=pos
There are cars that look better, drive better, are more reiable, and are cheaper than kia's.
all kia's=pos
There are cars that look better, drive better, are more reiable, and are cheaper than kia's.
list a car u can get for 11k brand new, with a 10 year, 100k warranty...
There is a thick line in between the Forum world, and the Real World.. Not all cars are meant to be super track/handling speed stars.
all kia's=posThanks for the non-constructive feedback and for obviously not even reading the thread. Please go back to the WL.
1SICKLEX
09-08-2008, 07:47 PM
all kia's=pos
There are cars that look better, drive better, are more reiable, and are cheaper than kia's.
There are Nissans that quality as a POS or barely better than a POS, as well as Toyotas and Hondas.
While past Kias were not leaders in engineering they continue to get better and gain ground.
This is coming soon.
http://info.detnews.com/pix/blogs/newsmakers/kia%20coupe.jpg
FYI, Kia has a V-8 with a 6 speed in their new Borrego. Nissan, hell ACURA does not offer that combo.
VooDooXII
09-08-2008, 09:13 PM
There are Nissans that quality as a POS or barely better than a POS, as well as Toyotas and Hondas.
While past Kias were not leaders in engineering they continue to get better and gain ground.
This is coming soon.
http://info.detnews.com/pix/blogs/newsmakers/kia%20coupe.jpg
FYI, Kia has a V-8 with a 6 speed in their new Borrego. Nissan, hell ACURA does not offer that combo.
That concept looks SO nice. To me, it's like what the Civic should have looked like.
RL...
09-09-2008, 11:43 PM
so kia likes to copy other makes' designs....how original...and no, the civic looks better, that civic wannabe isn't bad, but it has too much chrome...
RL...
09-09-2008, 11:54 PM
I like how everyone is choosing to defend kia here, but none of these people own kia's...obviously there are better choices out there...
Just because you can buy a new kia for 11k with a 100k warranty doesn't mean it's a great car, in fact it's probably the opposite since kia is basically giving the cars away. That is, assuming you CAN buy a new kia for 11k with warranty. And if I had 11k, I could make along list of cars I'd rather buy....2000 lexus gs300, 2000 honda civic, accord, just to name a few...I personally wouldn't ever buy a brand new car anyways though, I'd wait atleast a year...:2cents:
1SICKLEX
09-10-2008, 12:33 AM
so kia likes to copy other makes' designs....how original...and no, the civic looks better, that civic wannabe isn't bad, but it has too much chrome...
Lets see here.
Nissan 240 SX last gen-Lexus SC influenced
Nissan Xterra- Land Rover influenced
Nissan 240 Z- Jaguar E type influenced
Nissan 350 Z- Porsche 911 influenced
Nissan Altima 1st gen-Infiniti J30 influenced
Nissan Altima 3rd/4th gens-Lexus GS influenced
Nissan Maxima 3rd gen- BMW 5 influenced
Nissan Maxima last gen -Lexus GS influenced
New Maxima- Oldsmobile Auroa influence
Everyone copies from one another and takes cues from one another. True the Koreans have copied more than most but the Japanese have too, the Americans and now the GErmans are copying Asian cues.
Nissan has some original designs, like the 300ZX (pretty much perfect) Murano, NX 2000 and Versa (which is a Renault anyway) but they are far from original. I am not saying they are blatant copies but they do take other makers designs.
You do know Nissan is owned by the French right? :)
My first car was a Nissan fwiw. :)
I like how everyone is choosing to defend kia here, but none of these people own kia's...obviously there are better choices out there...
Just because you can buy a new kia for 11k with a 100k warranty doesn't mean it's a great car, in fact it's probably the opposite since kia is basically giving the cars away. That is, assuming you CAN buy a new kia for 11k with warranty. And if I had 11k, I could make along list of cars I'd rather buy....2000 lexus gs300, 2000 honda civic, accord, just to name a few...I personally wouldn't ever buy a brand new car anyways though, I'd wait atleast a year...:2cents:
ok that makes perfect sense..
Sell a ****ty car for 11k
With a 10year/100k warranty
So your company can spend thousands and thousands of dollars on labor and replacing parts.
Rios have been out for a few years...its no new model were u gettin these crazy hypothesis from.. :thinking:
ALL NEW 08-09 KIAS ARE BACKED WITH THE 10yr/100k....takes u about 30secs to look up this info..
your starting to type crazy stuff now
I like how everyone is choosing to defend kia here, but none of these people own kia's...obviously there are better choices out there...I'll gladly compare the new Spectra5 to the new Sentra since they're in the same market, and I'd take the Spectra5 anyday of the week. The Sentra is sluggish, unresponsive, handles like crap, and is ugly as hell. The Spec-V is much better in terms of power and handling, but it's still ugly and with that package you're over $21,000. Having driven both, the Spectra outdoes the Sentra in every aspect except for maybe the A/C control knobs.
Also, don't come in here comparing old cars to new cars. Compare apples to apples if you're going to do anything at all. If not, then please leave my thread. You've yet to contribute anything of value.
RL...
09-10-2008, 01:42 PM
Ok guys, you know what, Kia's are GREAT cars! Thet're so great that everyone I know has a kia...O wait....nvm....everyone I know that has had a kia said it was unreliable and the quality of the car was horrible...
You guys can praise kia at all you want, but at the end of the day you ppl do not drive KIA's, why? Because there are better choices out there. :yes:
joecoolfreak
09-10-2008, 02:06 PM
Well, I do own a Kia and I think it's great for what it is.
Ran, if you are looking for a practical and dependable car, then go for it. I bought a 07 Rio last year and couldn't be happier. I picked it up straight off the showroom floor and after just under a year and 20k later, I have had zero problems or complaints. I was looking for something that was cheap and reliable and got good gas mileage for a decent daily and that is exactly what I got. Yes, the interior is a little utilitarian and no it isn't a sports car, but that is not what I bought it for. Almost 40mpg for a 10k car that has zero issues isn't bad any day of the week.
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