This is kinda IRONIC...

[bigdare23]

Compare these two threads. :thinking: :thinking: :thinking: :thinking:


http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191988




http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192038


Both where created on the same day, but one has twice the amount of pages as the other one (wonder why is that :rolleyes: ). If you read the Palin thread it is full of defensive posts and posts that tries to nullify the actions of her family members, while the P-Diddy thread is full of posts are disrespecting and classifying Obama supports as idiots because of that idiot. This is funny to me. So you're saying... that rapper just talking noise (that has nothing to do with the elections) has more influence on the election than family members who are ****ing (or ****ed) up :thinking:


Many of you are a joke {shakes head}

[Vteckidd]

The point was never that P. Diddy was SPEAKING FOR OBAMA, it shows the mentality of the people that are FOR OBAMA.

We never said that ALL PEOPLE SHARE THE SAME FEELINGS as Didddy, Nas, Ludacris, etc.

It shows how STUPID the mainstream media is, and it shows how racist these black celebrities are.

Palin is dealing with a family issue. It doesnt show anything about her ability to be a VP.. Just like if Obama came out and said that his daughter was pregnant, it wouldnt make me say anything negative about him or his family.

I think most people missed the point of both threads

[BobbyFresco]

The point was never that P. Diddy was SPEAKING FOR OBAMA, it shows the mentality of the people that are FOR OBAMA.

We never said that ALL PEOPLE SHARE THE SAME FEELINGS as Didddy, Nas, Ludacris, etc.

It shows how STUPID the mainstream media is, and it shows how racist these black celebrities are.

Palin is dealing with a family issue. It doesnt show anything about her ability to be a VP.. Just like if Obama came out and said that his daughter was pregnant, it wouldnt make me say anything negative about him or his family.

I think most people missed the point of both threads



AGAIN, LEARN THE DEFINITION OF THE WORD RACISM AND ITS PROPER APPLICATION.:rolleyes:


AND SECONDLY, SPIN THE PALIN SITUATION ALL YOU WANT, HER "FAMILY PROBLEMS" AS YOU SO CONVENIENTLY TRY TO DOWNPLAY, DOES NOT MIRROR THE MORAL AND CHRISTIAN BELIEFS OF HER PARTY. LET'S SEE, SHE'S A CONSERVATIVE AND YET HER DAUGHTER DIDN'T CONSERVATIVELY KEEP HER 17 YEAR OLD PU$$Y TO HERSELF AND IS NOW NOT SO CONSERVATIVELY PREGNANT. A CHILD HAVING A CHILD. ARE THESE THE NEW REPUBICLAN STANDARDS?


AND HEY, LET'S SEE IF YOU CAN ADDRESS WHAT I'M SAYING W/OUT SHOWING JUST HOW "SMART" YOU ARE WITH YOUR FAVORITE SLEW OF INSULTS.

[BobbyFresco]

I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT WITH A 17 YEAR OLD CHILD WHO IS PREGO, SHE SHOULD BE CONCENTRATING ON HER HOME FIRST, WHICH IS ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE VALUE, AND NOT CHASING HER CAREER...

[Vteckidd]

Racism, by its simplest definition, is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. People with racist beliefs might hate certain groups of people according to their racial groups. In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or get preferential treatment. Racial discrimination typically points out taxonomic differences between different groups of people, even though anybody can be racialised, independently of their somatic differences. According to the United Nations conventions, there is no distinction between the term racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination.

So that said you dont think that

P. Diddy saying "there is no blacks in ALaska(Questioning why Mccain chose a WHITE VP WOMAN and not a black candidate or somehow inferring that since ALASKA has a small BLACK POPULATION it means something), and Black policies are the future"

Ludacris "We are going to paint the white house black"

isnt advocating that one race is superior to another?

:blah:

Hey people make mistakes. Palin chose to meet it head on rather than cover it up. Now, lets play a little game. Her daughter is 17, what if she was 18? if she was 18 it wouldnt have EVEN MADE THE NEWS! The fact is 17 isnt a child anymore. She made a mistake, got pregnant, (LIKE TONS OF TEENAGERS DO) and she is marrying the father.

AGAIN, WTF DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE PRICE OF TEA IN CHINA?

SO how do you Feel about Edwards cheating on his wife that was SUFFERING FROM CANCER, PAID HER OFF TO KEEP QUIET AND PAID ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER TO TAKE THE FALL FOR HIM, AND THEN LIEING ABOUT IT FOR 4 YEARS?

Personally i think Edwards was an idiot, but you know what its HIS BUSINESS. THe only thing that i dont like is that he LIED about it. If he would have come out and said YES i cheated on my wife, then i would have thought badly about him, but not in his ways to lead the country. THE LIEING is what bothers me.

P.S. Why isnt DIDDY making a blog about how Biden comes from Deleware, HUGE BLACK POPULATION THERE RIGHT? LOL

[Vteckidd]

And lets take the double standard 1 STEP FARTHER

Imus says NAPPY HEADED HOs and Black AMerica VILLIFIES HIM. As a biggot and a racist.

If any WHITE celebrity made a BLOG about how we need to keep the white house white, or , how obama should be gunned down or put in a wheelchair, that SH!T WOULD BE ALL OVER EVERY NEWS CHANNEL FOR WEEKS.

But P. Diddy does it or Ludacris does it and its because somehow you think they have "earned the right"

Pot Meet Kettle

[Vteckidd]

Answer me the following questions

1) Is what P. Diddy blogged about RACIST?

2) Is what Ludacris Sang about RACIST?

3) Is what IMUS did RACIST?

Just a simple yes or no would be sufficient

[BobbyFresco]

So that said you dont think that

P. Diddy saying "there is no blacks in ALaska, and Black policies are the future"

Ludacris "We are going to paint the white house black"

isnt advocating that one race is superior to another?

:blah:

Hey people make mistakes. Palin chose to meet it head on rather than cover it up. Now, lets play a little game. Her daughter is 17, what if she was 18? if she was 18 it wouldnt have EVEN MADE THE NEWS! The fact is 17 isnt a child anymore. She made a mistake, got pregnant, (LIKE TONS OF TEENAGERS DO) and she is marrying the father.




AGAIN, WTF DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE PRICE OF TEA IN CHINA?

SO how do you Feel about Edwards cheating on his wife that was SUFFERING FROM CANCER, PAID HER OFF TO KEEP QUIET AND PAID ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER TO TAKE THE FALL FOR HIM, AND THEN LIEING ABOUT IT FOR 4 YEARS?

Personally i think Edwards was an idiot, but you know what its HIS BUSINESS. THe only thing that i dont like is that he LIED about it. If he would have come out and said YES i cheated on my wife, then i would have thought badly about him, but not in his ways to lead the country. THE LIEING is what bothers me.




THE DIFFERENCE IS SHE ISN'T AN AVERAGE TEEN AND SHE DOESN'T COME FROM AN AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD. PALIN IS A POLITICIAN. A REBUBLICAN AT THAT. THEY ARE CONSERVATIVE. CHRISTIANS. CONSERVATIVES AND CHRISTIANS HAVE HIGH MORAL STANDARDS AND HAVING A CHILD OUT OF WEDLOCK AT 17 ISNT PART OF SAID VALUES. WHAT ABOUT THAT DO YOU NOT GET?
AND THIS ISNT A CASE OF PALIN COMING CLEAN; IT CAME OUT, THUS SHE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO CONFRONT IT. AND WHAT DOES JOHN EDWARDS HAVE TO DO W/ANY OF THIS ANYWAY?

[Vteckidd]

THE DIFFERENCE IS SHE ISN'T AN AVERAGE TEEN AND SHE DOESN'T COME FROM AN AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD. PALIN IS A POLITICIAN. A REBUBLICAN AT THAT. THEY ARE CONSERVATIVE. CHRISTIANS. CONSERVATIVES AND CHRISTIANS HAVE HIGH MORAL STANDARDS AND HAVING A CHILD OUT OF WEDLOCK AT 17 ISNT PART OF SAID VALUES. WHAT ABOUT THAT DO YOU NOT GET?
AND THIS ISNT A CASE OF PALIN COMING CLEAN; IT CAME OUT, THUS SHE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO CONFRONT IT. AND WHAT DOES JOHN EDWARDS HAVE TO DO W/ANY OF THIS ANYWAY?

So bill clinton is a CHristian

Edwards is a Christian

Obama is a Christian

you telling me none of them ever made a mistake? Were you posting so hardcore about those issues when they were made public.

and read man, Palin came out and said it, it was COMMON KNOWLEDGE in Alaska and she is the one that broke the story. It wasnt like someone found out and made her an ultimatum.

[BobbyFresco]

Answer me the following questions

1) Is what P. Diddy blogged about RACIST?

2) Is what Ludacris Sang about RACIST?

3) Is what IMUS did RACIST?

Just a simple yes or no would be sufficient


1. NO
2. NO
3. NO

[Vteckidd]

ok what is YOUR definition of RACIST then id love to hear it

[BobbyFresco]

So bill clinton is a CHristian

Edwards is a Christian

Obama is a Christian

you telling me none of them ever made a mistake? Were you posting so hardcore about those issues when they were made public.

and read man, Palin came out and said it, it was COMMON KNOWLEDGE in Alaska and she is the one that broke the story. It wasnt like someone found out and made her an ultimatum.


ONCE AGAIN.

REPUBLICANS= CONSERVATIVE= USE CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES AS THEIR MORAL CODES OR STANDARDS.

BILL CLINTON, LAST TIME I CHECKED, WAS A DEMOCRAT.
SO IS OBAMA.


PPL WANTED TO CRUCIFY BILL CLINTON FOR HIS INDISCRETIONS.
THIS ISN'T ANY DIFFERENT. ANY PARENT OF ANY 17 YEAR OLD PREGGO GIRL IS A FAILURE. POINT BLANK. THE OLD PRICK FUKED UP AND PICKED THE WRONG PERSON AT THE WRONG TIME. ADMIT IT AND MOVE ON.

[Vteckidd]

AND THIS ISNT A CASE OF PALIN COMING CLEAN; IT CAME OUT, THUS SHE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO CONFRONT IT. AND WHAT DOES JOHN EDWARDS HAVE TO DO W/ANY OF THIS ANYWAY?


Care to retract that statement


The lawyer who conducted the background review said Palin voluntarily told McCain's campaign about Bristol's' pregnancy, and about her husband's 2-decade-old DUI arrest during questioning as part of the vice presidential search process


Then came the campaign's disclosure that 17-year-old Bristol Palin is pregnant. The father is Levi Johnston, who has been a hockey player at Bristol's high school, The New York Post and The New York Daily News reported in their Tuesday editions.

In addition, the campaign also disclosed that Palin's husband, Todd, then age 22, was arrested in 1986 in Alaska for driving under the influence of alcohol.

As you can see, Mccains CAMPAIGN DISCLOSED THE INFORMATION, VOLUNTARILY.

[Vteckidd]

ONCE AGAIN.

REPUBLICANS= CONSERVATIVE= USE CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES AS THEIR MORAL CODES OR STANDARDS.

BILL CLINTON, LAST TIME I CHECKED, WAS A DEMOCRAT.
SO IS OBAMA.


PPL WANTED TO CRUCIFY BILL CLINTON FOR HIS INDISCRETIONS.
THIS ISN'T ANY DIFFERENT. ANY PARENT OF ANY 17 YEAR OLD PREGGO GIRL IS A FAILURE. POINT BLANK. THE OLD PRICK FUKED UP AND PICKED THE WRONG PERSON AT THE WRONG TIME. ADMIT IT AND MOVE ON.


So you support Dems who by your definition have no moral code, no decency, or christian principles

GREAT VOTER YOU WILL MAKE!

[Vteckidd]

PPL WANTED TO CRUCIFY BILL CLINTON FOR HIS INDISCRETIONS.
THIS ISN'T ANY DIFFERENT. ANY PARENT OF ANY 17 YEAR OLD PREGGO GIRL IS A FAILURE. POINT BLANK. THE OLD PRICK FUKED UP AND PICKED THE WRONG PERSON AT THE WRONG TIME. ADMIT IT AND MOVE ON.


So that means Hispanics and African AMericans (who have the HIGHEST TEEN PREGNANCY RATE of all races) are all FAILURES POINT BLANK.

That means the majority of African AMericans (who have the largest SINGLE PARENT AND HIGHEST TEEN PREGNANCY RATES) are FAILURES POINT BLANK.


Woul you like to have your cake and eat it too?

[BobbyFresco]

ok what is YOUR definition of RACIST then id love to hear it

THE MOST BASIC DEFINITION IS THE BELIEF THAT ONE IS SUPERIOR TO ANOTHER OF A DIFFERENT RACE, SOLELY BASED ON RACE. NOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT I DON'T THINK I'VE HEARD DIDDY, WHO ISN'T THE MOUTH PIECE FOR ALL BLACK PPL, OR LUDA WHO AGAIN ISN'T THE MOUTHPIECE FOR ALL BLACK PPL, OR EVEN JESSE JACKSON WHO LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS NOT THE MOUTHPIECE FOR ALL BLACK PPL, SAY ANYTHING ABOUT BEING SUPERIOR TO ANYONE ELSE SINGULARLY BASED ON RACE. OR ANY OTHER CRITERIA FOR THAT MATTER. MR KIDD, QUIT PROJECTING.

[Vteckidd]

All i said was that there are a majority of BLACK CELEBRITIES that are being outright RACISTS when it comes to this election.
I also said that hardly any WHITE CELEBRITIES were making these downright STUPID claims about Obama or white candidates.

I also said that these BLACK RACIST CELEBRITIES are preaching to the BLACK RACE (not the white race, not the hispanics, etc, ONLY OTHER BLACKS) TO GET OUT AN VOTE FOR OBAMA SO THEY CAN HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT.

THATS IT

I stand by that statement

[Vteckidd]

THE MOST BASIC DEFINITION IS THE BELIEF THAT ONE IS SUPERIOR TO ANOTHER OF A DIFFERENT RACE, SOLELY BASED ON RACE. NOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT I DON'T THINK I'VE HEARD DIDDY, WHO ISN'T THE MOUTH PIECE FOR ALL BLACK PPL, OR LUDA WHO AGAIN ISN'T THE MOUTHPIECE FOR ALL BLACK PPL, OR EVEN JESSE JACKSON WHO LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS NOT THE MOUTHPIECE FOR ALL BLACK PPL, SAY ANYTHING ABOUT BEING SUPERIOR TO ANYONE ELSE SINGULARLY BASED ON RACE. OR ANY OTHER CRITERIA FOR THAT MATTER. MR KIDD, QUIT PROJECTING.


So Ludacris saying "We need to paint the white house BLACK" which means basically to get rid of white people in the white house, isnt advocating one race over another? Thats not saying they are superior?

I can do the same with NAS, P. Diddy etc. But you should by now get the point or you never will

[BobbyFresco]

So that means Hispanics and African AMericans (who have the HIGHEST TEEN PREGNANCY RATE of all races) are all FAILURES POINT BLANK.

That means the majority of African AMericans (who have the largest SINGLE PARENT AND HIGHEST TEEN PREGNANCY RATES) are FAILURES POINT BLANK.


Woul you like to have your cake and eat it too?


YES, FAILURES POINT BLANK, AND IT'S TIME FOR PPL TO TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS.

WHAT'S THIS CAKE AND EAT IT TOO DEAL ALL ABOUT?

WHAT....YOU THOUGHT I'D BE LIKE" THATS SO RACISE!" AND MAKE AN EXCUSE FOR WHY IT'S OK? HELL NO. NICE TRY THOUGH.:goodjob:

[JITB]

AGAIN, LEARN THE DEFINITION OF THE WORD RACISM AND ITS PROPER APPLICATION.:rolleyes:


AND SECONDLY, SPIN THE PALIN SITUATION ALL YOU WANT, HER "FAMILY PROBLEMS" AS YOU SO CONVENIENTLY TRY TO DOWNPLAY, DOES NOT MIRROR THE MORAL AND CHRISTIAN BELIEFS OF HER PARTY. LET'S SEE, SHE'S A CONSERVATIVE AND YET HER DAUGHTER DIDN'T CONSERVATIVELY KEEP HER 17 YEAR OLD PU$$Y TO HERSELF AND IS NOW NOT SO CONSERVATIVELY PREGNANT. A CHILD HAVING A CHILD. ARE THESE THE NEW REPUBICLAN STANDARDS?


AND HEY, LET'S SEE IF YOU CAN ADDRESS WHAT I'M SAYING W/OUT SHOWING JUST HOW "SMART" YOU ARE WITH YOUR FAVORITE SLEW OF INSULTS.



its so obvious.. that its past worth mentioning.....there is plenty of republicans seriously questioning this decision.

[Vteckidd]

you just keep contradicting yourself thats all, its funny

[japan4racing]

damn kidd you are killin this dude!

[BobbyFresco]

So Ludacris saying "We need to paint the white house BLACK" which means basically to get rid of white people in the white house, isnt advocating one race over another? Thats not saying they are superior?

I can do the same with NAS, P. Diddy etc. But you should by now get the point or you never will

NO IT'S NOT....AND YOU ARE GETTING ALL RILED UP ABOUT WHAT AN ENTERTAINER SAYS!....LET ME FILL YOU IN ON SOMETHING....HE'S AN ENTERTAINER..HE GETS PAID TO SIT THERE AND SAY OUTLANDISH SHIIT. BIG FUKING DEAL.


MY ADVICE TO YOU IS TO QUIT GETTING UPSET OVER RICH BLACK MEN (LOL!) WHO DON'T PAY YOUR BILLS....WHEN YOU MAKE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND SOMEONE CARES TO HEAR WHAT YOU SAY OR GIVES YOU THAT MEDIUM FROM WHICH TO DO SO, THEN YOU CAN SAY ALL THE DUMB SHIIT YOU WANT.

[BobbyFresco]

you just keep contradicting yourself thats all, its funny


HOW SO?
BECAUSE I'M NOT PANDERING TO YOU...

BECAUSE YOU WANT ME TO SAY THAT I THINK IT'S OK FOR BLACK WOMEN TO HAVE KIDS OUT OF WEDLOCK AS TEENS AND DOWN PALIN'S DAUGHTER BECAUSE SHE'S WHITE JUST SO YOU CAN CALL ME IGNORANT? LMMFAO.

SORRY.


I WILL BE THE FIRST ONE TO SAY THAT BLACK PPL HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ALL THE SHORTCOMINGS AND BULL**** REASONS WHY WE AS A CULTURE ARE ON TOP MOST OF THE BAD AND AT THE BOTTOM OF MOST OF THE GOOD. SORRY, YOU WON'T GET THAT SHUCK AND JIVE FROM ME. NICE TRY THOUGH.

[BobbyFresco]

damn kidd you are killin this dude!

YEA, JUST LIKE O.J SIMPSON DIDNT KILL HIS WIFE....LMFAO...KEEP IT MOVING, BRUTUS..:lmfao:

[japan4racing]

i just want you to turn off caps

[BobbyFresco]

So you support Dems who by your definition have no moral code, no decency, or christian principles

GREAT VOTER YOU WILL MAKE!


NOW YOU'RE JUST PLAYING DUMB BECAUSE YOU KNOW EXACTLY IN WHAT CONTEXT I MADE THOSE STATEMENTS.

I'M SORRY BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO HOLD OTHERS TO YOUR CONSERVATIVE, ULTRA MORAL STANDARDS THEN YOU SHOULD ALSO LIVE BY THEM.


AND WHO SAID I SUPPORT DEMS?
NEVER HAVE I SAID I SUPPORT OBAMA AND I CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND A POST WHERE I'VE PROCLAIMED THAT. I JUST DON'T THINK MCCAIN AND PALIN ARE WHO SHOULD BE REPRESENTING MY COUNTRY AS THE LEADERS. TOUGH TITTY.

[BobbyFresco]

i just want you to turn off caps

I WILL WHEN YOU SAY SOMETHING HALFWAY INTELLIGENT. KNTHNXBYE.

[japan4racing]

I WILL WHEN YOU SAY SOMETHING HALFWAY INTELLIGENT. KNTHNXBYE.

like TOUGH TITTY and KNTHNXBYE????? c'mon guy you fail

[BobbyFresco]

like TOUGH TITTY and KNTHNXBYE????? c'mon guy you fail



YOU'RE RIGHT. A PERSON THAT CAN FORMULATE A GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT SENTENCE THAT OTHERS CAN COMPREHEND IS ALWAYS A FAIL. / SARCASM.

DO ME A FAVOR....IF YOU HAVE ANY KIDS, PLEASE DROWN 'EM BECAUSE I'D HATE TO SEE THEM GO THROUGH THIS LIFE WITH THE STUPIDITY THAT YOU WILL HAVE UNDOUBTEDLY "BLESSED" THEM WITH.

[japan4racing]

DO ME A FAVOR....IF YOU HAVE ANY KIDS, PLEASE DROWN 'EM BECAUSE I'D HATE TO SEE THEM GO THROUGH THIS LIFE WITH THE STUPIDITY THAT YOU WILL HAVE UNDOUBTEDLY "BLESSED" THEM WITH.

likewise...el oh el at ppl getting mad on the net!!! you are great man. do you always get this upset?

[BobbyFresco]

likewise...el oh el at ppl getting mad on the net!!! you are great man. do you always get this upset?


ME? UPSET? HARDLY...
PROPS FOR ATTEMPTING TO FLATTER YOURSELF THOUGH..:lmfao:

[blaknoize]

Yall are still arguing? Gosh...

[stephen]

bobby...trying to explain stuff to Mr Kidd and the rest of the his buddies is pointless. you'd get more intelligent responses from Palin's BABY with down syndrome.

[BanginJimmy]

I JUST DON'T THINK MCCAIN AND PALIN ARE WHO SHOULD BE REPRESENTING MY COUNTRY AS THE LEADERS. TOUGH TITTY.


I actually agree with you on this part. I only differ in the fact that I think Obama (not Biden) would be even worse for the country than McCain/Palin.



After a little thought though, Repubs could possibly use this to point out that the Palins arent a political model family. This could help with the middle and lower class voters who will see her as more of a regular jane.

[BobbyFresco]

I actually agree with you on this part. I only differ in the fact that I think Obama (not Biden) would be even worse for the country than McCain/Palin.



After a little thought though, Repubs could possibly use this to point out that the Palins arent a political model family. This could help with the middle and lower class voters who will see her as more of a regular jane.


This is why I like you. I can't say I agree with half of the shiit you say but at least you're able to convey your thoughts sans insults and name calliing.

[AirMax95]

bobby...trying to explain stuff to Mr Kidd and the rest of the his buddies is pointless. you'd get more intelligent responses from Palin's BABY with down syndrome.

:goodjob:

[Vteckidd]

This is why I like you. I can't say I agree with half of the shiit you say but at least you're able to convey your thoughts sans insults and name calliing.
not ONCE did i insult you or anyone else in this thread.
I dont know why you are whining we had a good discussion, difference is i think my side had ALOT more substance and i proved/showed where you were wrong a few times.

[97lude]

I actually agree with you on this part. I only differ in the fact that I think Obama (not Biden) would be even worse for the country than McCain/Palin.



After a little thought though, Repubs could possibly use this to point out that the Palins arent a political model family. This could help with the middle and lower class voters who will see her as more of a regular jane








x2

[BobbyFresco]

not ONCE did i insult you or anyone else in this thread.
I dont know why you are whining we had a good discussion, difference is i think my side had ALOT more substance and i proved/showed where you were wrong a few times.



I'm pretty sure that I did not say anything about you specifically.
In fact, you're not the only one who can't have a debate w/out name calling and insults. However it is good that you ,through thinking I was speaking of you, admit that it is a problem you have...and you give yourself way too much credit...