2JZ Motor - Fast-Spooling Turbo?

[YoshiFD3S]

I'm looking to make 450-600rwhp tops, with my 2JZ/FD swap, and I was just wondering if someone has any recommendations for a turbo that can safely handle that kind of power, that offers a quick spool of around 4,000RPM at full-boost, if possible.

I've never been that knowledgeable on turbo sizes, but I've been recommended to go with a 60-1 or 62-1..

Can anyone provide some further insight on this for me?

Thanks,

Mike

[1SLWPOS]

Why not ask your Brother silly man.

[BTEC]

i was gonna say get a 62-1 also. its a descent size turbo and it worked great on my homeboys s2000 and another homeboys silvia. s2000 made a lil over 620. the silvia made right at 500. both are 4 cylinder and had a broad power band. you having a 6 cylinder would make the turbo spool quicker as a given.

[NevrNufTorq]

t4/67-68mm imho...great spool and can make the power that you want!! :2cents: :D

[BTEC]

t4/67-68mm imho...great spool and can make the power that you want!! :2cents: :D
it dnt get no simpler than that. :goodjob:

[EmminoDaGreat]

I remember the FD w/ 2J we did with the 42 or 45 r lol... sheesh. memories...

[YoshiFD3S]

Yah...I should just ask my brother..

But blah! I wanted to ask online! lol

Can someone explain to me the typical boost levels and power levels I might expect, if I run a 60-1 or 62-1, given I have the obligatory supporting mods?

[SleepingTalon]

I'm making a good bit with my 2J right now, and have good spool, but am running a larger frame turbo than what you want/need. I won't disclose peak numbers, but I make 500rwtq at 4200rpm. For the power you're wanting, 35R with the bigger exhaust housing is all you would need. You'll make 18psi at 3500rpm. I've done it before with that setup and that turbo, and I just saw Dan tune one a few days ago that did exactly that.

[YoshiFD3S]

I'm making a good bit with my 2J right now, and have good spool, but am running a larger frame turbo than what you want/need. I won't disclose peak numbers, but I make 500rwtq at 4200rpm. For the power you're wanting, 35R with the bigger exhaust housing is all you would need. You'll make 18psi at 3500rpm. I've done it before with that setup and that turbo, and I just saw Dan tune one a few days ago that did exactly that.

Could you tell me exactly what it is I should look for then? Actual size is "GT35R", right? Any recommended brands, or other things to know? Recommended supporting mods?

[SleepingTalon]

Could you tell me exactly what it is I should look for then? Actual size is "GT35R", right? Any recommended brands, or other things to know? Recommended supporting mods?

You don't need any supporting mods. Stock motor, stock head, stock cams, etc, will all do fine. All you'll wanna have is an AEM, and a HKS DLI. That's it. The rest of the stuff can all be stock. You don't even need fuel for it. Just a walbro pump. Stock fuel is good to almost 550whp. As far as the brand of turbo is concerned, just call PTE and get them to send you a GT35R (S cover) with at least the .82 backside.

[ct9a gsr]

If you asked your brother, he'd come and ask me... ho ho ho. =D

Don't bother with DBB crap on a 2JZ... really, unless you have money to burn... which I know you don't. Buy a 67mm and call it a day. I make more power than you're wanting on my 67mm and have practically no lag. Hell, who knows, I may end up selling my 67mm if I wanna be dumb and make more.

BTW, a GT35R is a 61mm and considered tiny for a 2JZ.

[1SLWPOS]

El oh El ok Charlie.

[josh green]

Go with a Bullzeye Power turbo, you'll make more power with them and have almost the same spool as a ball bearing turbo. Though they do cost more than most journal bearing turbos but they are cheaper than BB ones. I would probably get a s362 or s368. s368 would probably make 30-40hp more than a t67.

A buddy of mine had a 6 speed with a boost logic BB t67 kit and 1st was useless, 2nd was moderate spin and 3rd was all go. I believe he made 485whp or so, dont remember what boost.

[NevrNufTorq]

If you asked your brother, he'd come and ask me... ho ho ho. =D

Don't bother with DBB crap on a 2JZ... really, unless you have money to burn... which I know you don't. Buy a 67mm and call it a day. I make more power than you're wanting on my 67mm and have practically no lag. Hell, who knows, I may end up selling my 67mm if I wanna be dumb and make more.

BTW, a GT35R is a 61mm and considered tiny for a 2JZ.

always great info my friend!!!! :goodjob:

[NevrNufTorq]

Go with a Bullzeye Power turbo, you'll make more power with them and have almost the same spool as a ball bearing turbo. Though they do cost more than most journal bearing turbos but they are cheaper than BB ones. I would probably get a s362 or s368. s368 would probably make 30-40hp more than a t67.

A buddy of mine had a 6 speed with a boost logic BB t67 kit and 1st was useless, 2nd was moderate spin and 3rd was all go. I believe he made 485whp or so, dont remember what boost.
your boy never shouldve sold that car!!! that car was almost perfect and very powerful to boot!!

and josh is right, bullzeye's are great turbos!!! r2b2(aap) and titan use them on all their race cars and gary white(driver for titan) uses them on his personal car also(one that went 9.6 1/4 at faceoff)

[SPOOLIN]

bullseye hits it. S368 moves into the larger frame sizing similar to a gt42, its an awesome turbo, the s372 can probably be acquired slightly less due to its popularity lately.

I think a 61 would be an outrage.

[Vteckidd]

lots of good answers.

i personally like the GT35R with the T4 housing and the .82 backside for 500whp and under.

Or you can go with the T67 like alot of people in this thread say. They have made good power as well.

If your looking to make more power later on, the best turbo is the GT4094R. itll make 500whp no problem with a good powerband and is capable of making 800whp.

I cant tell you who, but ive seen a car 2JZ with a stock motor an a 4094R make 500whp and it was pretty impressive.

[Vteckidd]

the 35R is very tiny though it is only a 61mm wheel like Charles said. so keep that in mind. its a baby turbo

[SleepingTalon]

It's "tiny", but all he wants is 450whp to 600whp. You size according to what you want. I've seen a 35R on a 2J, and it's worked very nicely. It's what all the 2J drift cars are using. Don't use a DBB on a 2J? Almost everyone runs a DBB turbo on a 2J, not only for spool, but for the more efficient Garrett GT wheels. This is what a Supra with a 35R spools like.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/sleepingtalon/th_supra_test.jpg (http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/sleepingtalon/?action=view&current=supra_test.flv)

[Vteckidd]

i didnt read the part where he said he wanted full boost by 4000rpms, if thats the case i dont think the 67mm or the 4094R will do that LOL

I think his only bet at that point is a 35R or a T4 62-1

[Random Hero]

Why not just use the upgraded twins kit from Jeremy Blackwell?

That kit is around $4k, keeping the factory plumbing and is capable of producing power a pinch over 500.

That seems like the right application for ya. :goodjob:

[josh green]

s362 hands down.......

[YoshiFD3S]

It's "tiny", but all he wants is 450whp to 600whp. You size according to what you want. I've seen a 35R on a 2J, and it's worked very nicely. It's what all the 2J drift cars are using. Don't use a DBB on a 2J? Almost everyone runs a DBB turbo on a 2J, not only for spool, but for the more efficient Garrett GT wheels. This is what a Supra with a 35R spools like.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/sleepingtalon/th_supra_test.jpg (http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/sleepingtalon/?action=view&current=supra_test.flv)

*orgasm*

You guys are getting too technical for me on all this stuff! That 35R sounds like what I am looking for, spool-time wise, and power-wise.

Is there a certain brand I should look for? And where's a good place to find one?

I want a good setup for when I first get the car up and running.. I'm not looking to toss in multi-thousand dollar components, right off the bat. I want to get a good setup first, then clean it up some over time with the here's and there's. Then when I re-enlist and get my bonus...it's all over! XD

When it comes down to it though, I was pretty much just gonna talk with Turbo Dave from Mainstream and be like "Tell me what to get!" lol

I wasn't planning on getting the AEM EMS until later, but if you guys think it's a good idea to go ahead and just have it from day one, then m'kay..

So, I don't NEED injectors up front, but it's recommended? Fuel-pump, some injectors, and AEM EMS = good to go?

What else?

[Random Hero]

*orgasm*

You guys are getting too technical for me on all this stuff! That 35R sounds like what I am looking for, spool-time wise, and power-wise.

Is there a certain brand I should look for? And where's a good place to find one?

When it came down to it, I was pretty much just gonna talk with Turbo Dave from Mainstream and be like "Tell me what to get!" lol

I wasn't planning on getting the AEM EMS right off the bat, but if you guys think it's a good idea to go ahead and just grab one for tuning purposes, then OK..

So, I don't NEED injectors up front, but it's recommended? Fuel-pump, some injectors, and AEM EMS = good to go?

What else?

Dude, check your PM.

You don't need to be this clueless with your car. :no:

[YoshiFD3S]

If I can be ignorant anywhere, I'd rather it be on paper, then in actual application.

I know I could be asking my brother all of this, but I guess I just wanted to get some input from other people too.

I could care less about my online forum status. I won't even be living in Georgia again for goodness knows how long, so my forum e-knowledge doesn't bother me.

[SleepingTalon]

*orgasm*

You guys are getting too technical for me on all this stuff! That 35R sounds like what I am looking for, spool-time wise, and power-wise.

Is there a certain brand I should look for? And where's a good place to find one?

I want a good setup for when I first get the car up and running.. I'm not looking to toss in multi-thousand dollar components, right off the bat. I want to get a good setup first, then clean it up some over time with the here's and there's. Then when I re-enlist and get my bonus...it's all over! XD

When it comes down to it though, I was pretty much just gonna talk with Turbo Dave from Mainstream and be like "Tell me what to get!" lol

I wasn't planning on getting the AEM EMS until later, but if you guys think it's a good idea to go ahead and just have it from day one, then m'kay..

So, I don't NEED injectors up front, but it's recommended? Fuel-pump, some injectors, and AEM EMS = good to go?

What else?


You're over thinking this. The AEM will allow you to make more power on stock fuel. No need for injectors, or any fuel system upgrades other than a pump. It will also make the driveability better. As far as where to get the turbo from, just call PTE and ask them for a 35R, S-cover, and use the bigger exhaust housing. That's all you need other than exhaust, FMIC, maniold, WG, and a DLI. The reason you'll need a DLI is because the AEM will change it over to wasted spark, and you'll have to gap down the plugs, so for higher boost, you'll need the DLI. It's a very basic setup man. I've probably done it like a half dozen times.

[YoshiFD3S]

That sounds more along the lines of what I'm looking for, then.

I just want the basics to get the car up and running to a hp level that I'm satisfied with. Spending thousands for perfection, can come later.

What's DLI stand for? (awaits boo's and hisses)

[BTEC]

just holler at dave, hell get u situated. write u questions dwn, dnt ask the same question twice, and write dwn ur answers bc dave dnt stay n one place 4 too lng these days. look around at other 2j setups and c the most common parts ppl and running. thats how i started.

[SleepingTalon]

That sounds more along the lines of what I'm looking for, then.

I just want the basics to get the car up and running to a hp level that I'm satisfied with. Spending thousands for perfection, can come later.

What's DLI stand for? (awaits boo's and hisses)

DLI = Distributor-Less Ignition

This is an easy setup man. I've done it to death, including my own car. It'll make exactly what you want, and give you the power/spool you're looking for. No need for a fuel system, cams, etc. Just turbo setup, exhaust, AEM, fmic, and DLI.

[YoshiFD3S]

Sounds good, man.

Thanks.

:]

[NevrNufTorq]

DLI = Distributor-Less Ignition

This is an easy setup man. I've done it to death, including my own car. It'll make exactly what you want, and give you the power/spool you're looking for. No need for a fuel system, cams, etc. Just turbo setup, exhaust, AEM, fmic, and DLI.

i dont really disagree with your choice other than i think the turbo is a lil small...you're gonna have to push the snot out of it to make the upper end but it will do what he wants but he def needs injectors! that is just pushing the stickers way to close to their limits, especially only on one walbro...use 750's and always have enough and still start like stock,my 1200cc's are another story :2cents:

[SleepingTalon]

i dont really disagree with your choice other than i think the turbo is a lil small...you're gonna have to push the snot out of it to make the upper end but it will do what he wants but he def needs injectors! that is just pushing the stickers way to close to their limits, especially only on one walbro...use 750's and always have enough and still start like stock,my 1200cc's are another story :2cents:

Not with an AEM. If you use a piggyback, then yes, you'll need fuel, but with an AEM and rewire, you can make 500whp safely on stock fuel. I ran around with 540whp on stock injectors and a walbro, and my DC was at 80% WITH rewire. Without 12v, you'll be at 90% duty. At any rate, his goal of 450-600whp is right in the 61mm territory, with the 600whp being on high boost. If at some point, he throws in a set of mild cams, he'll make that goal even easier. I'm talking about stock motor from top to bottom. This is a very cheap and easy goal to achieve.

[Vteckidd]

I love George . I made 705whp with a gt40 and stock cams with just a walbro and 850cc

[Alan®]

lots of good answers.

i personally like the GT35R with the T4 housing and the .82 backside for 500whp and under.

Or you can go with the T67 like alot of people in this thread say. They have made good power as well.

If your looking to make more power later on, the best turbo is the GT4094R. itll make 500whp no problem with a good powerband and is capable of making 800whp.

I cant tell you who, but ive seen a car 2JZ with a stock motor an a 4094R make 500whp and it was pretty impressive.
It wasn't a certian silver one on volks was it? :ninja:

[Alan®]

It's "tiny", but all he wants is 450whp to 600whp. You size according to what you want. I've seen a 35R on a 2J, and it's worked very nicely. It's what all the 2J drift cars are using. Don't use a DBB on a 2J? Almost everyone runs a DBB turbo on a 2J, not only for spool, but for the more efficient Garrett GT wheels. This is what a Supra with a 35R spools like.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/sleepingtalon/th_supra_test.jpg (http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/sleepingtalon/?action=view&current=supra_test.flv)
God damn I love it.

[93H22ACX]

SP71GTQ (rated at 825hp)... i get 10-12 psi on regular brake boost and build 500+trq at a little over 5000rpm. This is on an auto that sucks up alot of HP also.... manual tranny would be more.....

[ct9a gsr]

lol... I dunno why you don't wanna listen to me, Mike. I've gone through most turbos listed in this thread and own the setup that you ideally want. A standard 67mm will make the power you're looking for easily (and more) on pump + meth... and a lot more on race. It'll surely spool slightly slower than a GT35R but this is a 2JZ... the lag is very minimal on a 67mm and practically non-existant. I also know you're strapped for cash so take into consideration that a 67mm can be found for quite a bit cheaper than a GT35R.

If, for some reason, you wanna stick with a 61mm-sized turbo, at least go with the S362 from Borg Warner... spools faster and makes more power than a GT35R without the DBB unreliability.

SP71GTQ w/ the billet wheel is the ideal turbo that I'm looking for. o_o-b