ITR vs S2000

[DecoyOctopus]

wich car would win if they wer both stock, highway roll, dig, track. this might be a repost but not sure, anyway me and a couple people on here were debating this.

[Thighs]

s2k in all categories. the end.

[DecoyOctopus]

i agree but these **** bites dont believe. please explain. im sure they will read this thread pertty soon so i wanna avoid explaining it

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

s2k in all categories. the end.Your opinion does not matter.

Never mind your opinion, who are you?

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

Type-R, hands down, biiiitch !

[DecoyOctopus]

hahahah why do yall beleive that yall got do much damn faith in that effin b seires.

[Z33_kid]

s2k tell em to search look on youtube lol

[OneSlow5pt0]

isnt a s2k a low 14 sec car,and itr is a mid high 14 sec car?

[DecoyOctopus]

oh and jessie i got the money so bring the thing.

[DecoyOctopus]

we looked on you tube but most of the time the itr wins cuz its not effin stock. how many suped up heavlily modded itrs do you see and how many s2000. i even have a freind that used to have a itr and bought a s2000 and says the 2000 was way faster. and this guy hits the track and really drives the hell out of his cars.

[Thighs]

Your opinion does not matter.

Never mind your opinion, who are you?

im jesse, nice to meet you.

anyways,

s2k = 237hp/156tq, rwd ~2700lbs. perfect weight distribution, wider tires, slightly lower COG

ITR = 195hp/140tq, fwd ~2600lbs. slightly nose heavy, higher COG, less power, FWD...

s2k>itr.

[Thighs]

oh and jessie i got the money so bring the thing.

cant make it this week bro, im leaving tonight for a race in alabama and cant miss it. next week?

[DC2NR]

All depends on the driver ... had my gsr smoke an s2k lol ... but i'd say if they both had good drivers

s2k>itr

[DecoyOctopus]

fine

[DecoyOctopus]

2 good drivers. or better yet the same driver
All depends on the driver ... had my gsr smoke an s2k lol ... but i'd say if they both had good drivers

s2k>itr

[eYezs1ck]

jessie is right. s2k

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE_GXT8IVUI


Stock TypeRs do run 14s range...I have a 00 ITR, and last time I went to a track day (1/4 mile), i did 14.6 and the car was, i swear, 100% stock. That ITR in the video did 14.3. yeah.. might be tuned as u said.., but not much tuned. the race seems pretty normal, look at the start closely. the ITR reacted slightly faster. 1/4...reaction time makes a huge difference.

End of discussion.

End of thread.

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

Oh and about the Type-R coming in CW

"INTEGRA TYPE Rs WERE SOLD IN CHAMPIONSHIP WHITE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN 1997 AND 1998."

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

In other words, back in 97 and 98, you could walk up to your nearest Acura dealership and buy yourself a brand new CW Type-R.

Suck on that, buddy.

[DecoyOctopus]

ok great you got white type r that were getting beat by s2000 and still i never seen a 97 98 type r for sale for some reason.

[DecoyOctopus]

mr.izzy how can you give just some random poster so much credit. i mean here you got every single person saying that itr will loose to s2000 but some random posters word is so much more credible than people on here. dont make sense bro.

[mocha latte cupcake]

never lost to a stock ITR yet... raced 3 :thinking: idk maybe i r teh better driver or something?

[DecoyOctopus]

im goin to work ill be back to check up on this thread. someone pm me and show me how to turn this into a poll.

[Thighs]

if anybody really thinks that stock for stock an ITR is faster, they are stupid.

im a fan of both, but the s2k is just a faster car. the end. ITR is not the god-car that all the ITR fanboys wish it could be.

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

mr.izzy how can you give just some random poster so much credit. i mean here you got every single person saying that itr will loose to s2000 but some random posters word is so much more credible than people on here. dont make sense bro.And I bet none of them have even driven both of the cars. I've driven both and by that, I think a Type-R is faster to me. It's alot more fun.

You don't have to believe me on the CW Type-R's thought, that's cool.

Here's a thread on HT: http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=960217
Oh look an owner selling his CW Type-R
No pictures but states its a CW and a 98 http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/bmw-parts-sale/48349-1998-cw-type-r-integra-sale.html


If you won't believe that, then damn you're hardhead.

[Z33_kid]

u put two good drivers on a itr and a s2k the s2k will win

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

if anybody really thinks that stock for stock an ITR is faster, they are stupid.

im a fan of both, but the s2k is just a faster car. the end. ITR is not the god-car that all the ITR fanboys wish it could be.No one ever said it was the god-car. No one is a fanboy here. It all started out as a discussion and then it turned into an argument. All I said was, after driving both I feel like the Type-R is faster "TO ME." Let me quote that at the end. My opinion is my opinion. I never knew one could be stupid for having their own opinion. I guess you're stupid because you own a Miata and I would never own a Miata.

IA is hilarious.

[Thighs]

And I bet none of them have even driven both of the cars. I've driven both and by that, I think a Type-R is faster to me. It's alot more fun.

You don't have to believe me on the CW Type-R's thought, that's cool.

Here's a thread on HT: http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=960217
Oh look an owner selling his CW Type-R
No pictures but states its a CW and a 98 http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/bmw-parts-sale/48349-1998-cw-type-r-integra-sale.html


If you won't believe that, then damn you're hardhead.

i dont really care too much about the CW color. i know they were sold here in cw. i know a guy who has one.

and they might be more fun to you, but thats not the topic of the thread. it is a FACT that the s2k is faster than the itr. it might be less fun or whatever, but stock vs. stock and with the driver error/skill out of the equation, the s2k is a faster car in every way.

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

i dont really care too much about the CW color. i know they were sold here in cw. i know a guy who has one.

and they might be more fun to you, but thats not the topic of the thread. it is a FACT that the s2k is faster than the itr. it might be less fun or whatever, but stock vs. stock and with the driver error/skill out of the equation, the s2k is a faster car in every way.Like I said, IT'S FASTER TO ME. And I meant to say it's FUN "TOO." It doesnt matter if it's part of the topic or not. I can include in my sentence whatever I wish. Also, where is it a fact? I'd love some proof.


i dont really care too much about the CW color. i know they were sold here in cw. i know a guy who has one.That was directed towards Sam.

For some reason, he fails to believe that CW Type-R were sold in the US.

I have no idea why?

[SiLkY_JohnSon]

TYte R> s2k all DAy Foooz

[j0nbunklah0m]

i say sumone with stock type r and a stock s2k go race :)

[Atlblkz06]

<IA> Da S2000 SPANKS ITR, everione who sayz odawaize is dum </IA>

Of course I've never driven either but my opinion is worth about the same as the rest of y'alls'.

[OneSlow5pt0]

why is this still a debate ITRs are slow,S2000 are little faster............the end,lol

[trc_gsr]

[QUOTE=HeLLo iM iZzY]And I bet none of them have even driven both of the cars. I've driven both and by that, I think a Type-R is faster to me. It's alot more fun.

You don't have to believe me on the CW Type-R's thought, that's cool.
/QUOTE]

I've owned both and I have to say my ITR was faster than the s2k, but it also had alot done to it, Ive also driven a stock ITR and know they are def slower than a stock S2K, and there are CW ITRs they were made between 97-98, thats the only color they came in those years, the 97 had a older integra body style(94-97) and the 98 had the newer body style(98-01), they didnt sell any in the US in 99, but only in canada. There was such a demand for them when they didnt sell them in the US, that they bought them back in 00-01, much more of these were made than the 97-98 and they didnt sell them in white but only in black and yellow, anyways a stock s2k will beat a stock ITR, Drag, Track, ect. ITRs are close to a S2K but is it just a slower car not a whole lot slower, but still slower

[Tech5]

agree!
i say sumone with stock type r and a stock s2k go race :)

[trc_gsr]

on the strip a stock s2k will usually run 13.9 - to 14.4(with a good driver, a ****ty driver will be in the 15's), a type r will usually run 14.4 to 15.1 give or take a tenth or two, and on a real track the itr is prob the best fwd handling ever produced by any auto maker, but the s definety is a little less forgiving than the R but def rotates faster and handles better than a r, end of story.

[DecoyOctopus]

silky and mr.izzy yall just got to much faith in that damn r you hoe ass nigraz

[Ronsam2006]

Like I said, IT'S FASTER TO ME. And I meant to say it's FUN "TOO." It doesnt matter if it's part of the topic or not. I can include in my sentence whatever I wish. Also, where is it a fact? I'd love some proof.

That was directed towards Sam.

For some reason, he fails to believe that CW Type-R were sold in the US.

I have no idea why?
Damn how hard is it to understand that it doesn't matter if you THINK its faster, the truth of the matter is, the S2K IS faster than the Type-R

[ksniperfox]

Type-R, hands down, biiiitch !

so youre saying

195hp+fwd is better than 240hp+rwd in relatively the same weight chassis?



:doh: :lmfao: :thinking: :no:

[4doortypels]

ITRs are quicker, IMP, i can beat stock ITRS and S2Ks with my 250. ITRS weigh in at 2500 lbs. DB8s curb weighted at 2680. RS are the lightest tho. and s2ks, check that weight with a convertible...

I vote ITR. by half a freggin car.

[ksniperfox]

ITRs are quicker, IMP, i can beat stock ITRS and S2Ks with my 250. ITRS weigh in at 2500 lbs. DB8s curb weighted at 2680. RS are the lightest tho. and s2ks, check that weight with a convertible...

I vote ITR. by half a freggin car.


care to back that up with some sources?

[Random Hero]

Having had an ITR back in the day and tons of friends with S2000s, the S would cleary win stock for stock.

Obviously is comes down to driver though.

I have many people that can vouch for this, so keep your opinions to yourselves unless you have experience people. :goodjob:

[civic95]

Mugen Civic SI













:crazy:

[Captain-Obvious™]

like I told sammy at Sonic meet...I would put my money on the s2k...

[SiLkY_JohnSon]

like I told sammy at Sonic meet...I would put my money on the s2k...

Ahh cap'n dont fall for sammys side dude you gotta stick to the TYTe R...... come on

[Benefit]

bolt on itr > bolt on s2k

[redrumracer]

s2k no questions asked.

[Benefit]

lol @ the biased decisions made by the people who dont even own hondas

[redrumracer]

lol @ the biased decisions made by the people who dont even own hondas
yep and prob never will own one of those there things.

but in the end RWD>FWD all the time, not 99.999% of the time but 100% of the time.

[Benefit]

want to explain why? or is it because you drive a miata?

ITR will take many many many rwd cars

why did you even bother to post if you were going to make a retarded statement like that

[allmotoronly]

I have driven or owned pretty much every sporty model honda ever made at one time or another, including both the ITR and S2K. Stock for stock, the S2000 was faster.

[Benefit]

people still discuss which stock car is faster in a straight line??

[Random Hero]

lol @ the biased decisions made by the people who dont even own hondas

I used to have many Hondas, including a Type R.

Bought it brand flippin' new also.

Explain your definition of "many many many" rwd cars, because I don't believe you.

Don't be biased because you have one.

S2K > ITR all day.

[Ronsam2006]

I used to have many Hondas, including a Type R.

Bought it brand flippin' new also.

Explain your definition of "many many many" rwd cars, because I don't believe you.

Don't be biased because you have one.

S2K > ITR all day.
Xfuccin2

[DecoyOctopus]

hahahahaha idk why these guys dont beleive. i mean its obvious on paper and in real life.

[Catnip]

Xfuccin2

you have no say, you drive a DSM.






:ninja:

I love ITR's, but S2K ftmfw.

[9ussy]

s2k... end of discussion...

[4doortypels]

care to back that up with some sources?

which part?? about the s2k and itr or me beating either or. anyone with a stock ITR or S2K wanna dig run? i mean stock.

But seeing how argue about fwd vs rwd who ever owns the ITR, i dont wanna hear S hit about im RWD or me launching in 4 High.

i have an 8000 LB truck racing top of the line hondas and acuras.

[Got Vtec?]

s2k>Type R ..all day everyday...

[Bruce Leroy]

Take that hairy ass out of your sig!!!

[Got Vtec?]

removed :D

[takume]

[QUOTE=

anyways,

s2k = 237hp/156tq, rwd ~2700lbs. perfect weight distribution, wider tires, slightly lower COG

ITR = 195hp/140tq, fwd ~2600lbs. slightly nose heavy, higher COG, less power, FWD...

s2k>itr.[/QUOTE]

End of story.

[Ronsam2006]

you have no say, you drive a DSM.






:ninja:

I love ITR's, but S2K ftmfw.
You don't either foo....where is my race?

[Catnip]

You don't either foo....where is my race?

Get with motivation in like 2 weeks, he might be getting it from me... :boohoo:

[Random Hero]

Benefit - still waiting for your answer buddy. ;)

[Benefit]

lets see....a supra, stock for stock. and remember we arent talking straights

[Random Hero]

lets see....a supra, stock for stock. and remember we arent talking straights

Are you high?

I used to own a N/A MKIV Supra as well.

You shouldn't compare cars that I used to own, because you won't win.

Good try though. :rolleyes:

[Benefit]

we arent talking straight line racing!

itr is slow. i know. i never claim my car as fast in any way because i know it is slow.

but does it handle well? yes. it carves turns with precision. and i dont even have understeer, my car will oversteer way before that happens. yes , the back end comes out in my integra.

and just for the sake of argument about rwd is all mighty...any 240sx/miata wont even come close to an ITR in any race. and remember we are talking stock for stock

[Random Hero]

we arent talking straight line racing!

I have a Supra, you have a Type R.

Want to prove your theory?

[Benefit]

edited MY previous post

[Random Hero]

edited previous post

After I read yours correctly, yes, I did edit my post.

But, you avoided my question.

Let's set something up. :D

[Benefit]

oh i would love to...but where?

and i doubt your supra is stock...but im still game, i need new tires though...

[Ronsam2006]

we arent talking straight line racing!

itr is slow. i know. i never claim my car as fast in any way because i know it is slow.

but does it handle well? yes. it carves turns with precision. and i dont even have understeer, my car will oversteer way before that happens. yes , the back end comes out in my integra.

and just for the sake of argument about rwd is all mighty...any 240sx/miata wont even come close to an ITR in any race. and remember we are talking stock for stock

This makes a little more sense than saying any RWD car, but still is very questionable on both sides.

[Benefit]

i never said any i said many

[Got Vtec?]

S2k All day..

[gtikid]

I say S2K...but i'm kinda bias :ninja: ......

[Random Hero]

oh i would love to...but where?

and i doubt your supra is stock...but im still game, i need new tires though...

You pick the spot and here's why.

Because 70% (and I was part of that 70% when I had my Type R) brag about the cars performance around a track, but never take it there to gain first hand experience. They would rather just recite facts.

So, you pick it, PM me and let me know. :goodjob:

[trc_gsr]

a type r is a economy car honda made into a track car, s2k IS a track car
type r's are great but pep def think their better than they are bacause there rare and have pretty badges, but dont get it twisted a r is still a integra, and an integra is a not a thoroughbred sports car

[Benefit]

^ wow you know nothing, dont ever post again, throwing around the words "track car" like you know something...

[trc_gsr]

you must own a type r, have u ever tracked it? have you ever track a s2k? prolly not, im not using the term as a track car that is only used on the track, i.e. not steet legal, full cage, r-comps,ect. What i meant was a car that u could buy off the showroom floor and go to a track and it would perform, a stock integra wouldn't do **** on a track, a s2k needs pretty much needs nothing done to it to be tracked

I was trying to point out the fact a s2k is a true sportscar and a itr is a sportscar because honda made a economy car into one

[Benefit]

again, proving that you know nothing...

[trc_gsr]

again, proving that you know nothing...

and thats all you say, not disproving anything i said, I had a type R for 3 and half years, been to that last three ITR expos, and tracked it numerous times, but i guess i know nothing....