Dodge Viper ACR 7:22 at Ring: The pictures thread. Zakspeed FTW!!! (56K go away)

[EJ25RUN]

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Tom Coronel (Zakspeed FTMFW)
http://image.motortrend.com/f/10528043/112_0808_16z+dodge_viper_ACR+tom_coronel.jpg
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History Lessons.

Zakspeed Vipers: 3x Nurburgring 24 Hour Winner!

http://langermichel.de/desktopbilder/Zakspeed%20Viper%201280%20x%201024.jpg

[On_Her_Face]

love vipers but they are made ****ty

[OneSlow5pt0]

so was this a stock ACR?

[EJ25RUN]

so was this a stock ACR?

Motor Trend quote "Stock ACR specification with Hardcore Package"

With that wing, yeah, that is the Hardcore package.

[JITB]

all this Zr1 and gtr talk, everyone forgot about the ole ACR! Nice post!

[EJ25RUN]

all this Zr1 and gtr talk, everyone forgot about the ole ACR! Nice post!

Damn right.

JITB, i gotta admit. Anyone that calls you a GTR nut swinger is stupid. You got that common sense.

[JITB]

Damn right.

JITB, i gotta admit. Anyone that calls you a GTR nut swinger is stupid. You got that common sense.


BUT I AM! :D

[c0l7hy]

no vids?

[EJ25RUN]

no vids?
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191419

[ATK_Designs]

damn, it screams "get out of my way"

[SLOWR/T]

I want!!!!!!!

[Random Hero]

That's an impressive time no doubt.

Props to them...thanks for sharing. :goodjob:

[josh green]

Out of the 3 I say its the most "all out." I wander what it laps on street tires, apparently the "hardcore package" comes with race tires. GTR's lap times on street or race tires? If I was to buy 1 of the 3 it would probably be the viper.... Just look at it. I must say Dodge really stepped up the interior on the new vipers. That was the biggest turn off with the old ones.

[IndianStig]

Isn't that faster then the ZR-1?

[OneSlow5pt0]

Isn't that faster then the ZR-1?

yep and cheaper

[IndianStig]

yep and cheaper


+1 for you being a GM owner and telling the truth.

+1 to Mopar for being my Detroit Choice

[EJ25RUN]

Out of the 3 I say its the most "all out." I wander what it laps on street tires, apparently the "hardcore package" comes with race tires. GTR's lap times on street or race tires? If I was to buy 1 of the 3 it would probably be the viper.... Just look at it. I must say Dodge really stepped up the interior on the new vipers. That was the biggest turn off with the old ones.

The issue on the other forums has been the tires and ....the splitter :thinking:


Well the ZR1 did use Michelin Pilot Sport 2 tires, while the ACR used the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup. As in this picture, the two tires are totally different, and look how "slick" the cup tires are:

http://gumi.altavizsla.hu/kepek/michelin/michelin_pilot_sport_2.1.jpg http://www.michelinman.com/images/pic/tires/full/pilot-sport-cup.jpg
So don't tell me these tires don't make a difference.... because they practically do. As for the GT-R V-Spec, I don't really know what tire they used, but I'm sure its not something like the Sport Cup tires....

But here is what Michelin say about their tire.

Street Legal, Competition Ready. A DOT-approved competition tire, the Michelin® Pilot® Sport Cup tire offers extreme cornering grip and consistent lap times.
Features and Benefits
*
Consistent Performance — Lap After Lap
A race-inspired tread compound results in enduring performance characteristics in both wet and dry conditions, with consistent lap times over the entire life of the tire.
*
Powerful Performance Cornering
An asymmetric tread design utilizes a semislick outer tread and a wet-styled inner tread design to help deliver powerful wet and dry cornering, promoting high performance confidence.
*
Race-Like Reflexes
The high-tensile steel cords and polyamide belt package help provide enormous support for the tread and crown areas for consistently powerful cornering capability and quick steering responses.

DOT Quality Grades (UTQG Ratings)
Treadwear Grade 80 <-------- :eek:
Traction Grade AA
Temperature Grade A

[OneSlow5pt0]

hmmm

[EJ25RUN]

hmmm

80 is a little more than a pure track compound. That some hell grip.

[Oz10]

Those are some really good pictures. That car looks amazing.

[OneSlow5pt0]

80 is a little more than a pure track compound. That some hell grip.

yea,i dont like this.........but hey.guess we will have to wait to see some real ZR1 vs ACR

[josh green]

Could you imagine navigating 8.4litres of fury around that track w/o any electronics. I am sure that wing is more than needed.

After watching the video he could possibly shave a second or so off from the misshifts, but that car is badass. Another lap in the car he could definitely be in the 7:20.8 range. I hope this car is on GT5.


edit: lol, I am getting confused between the 3 threads.

[Atlblkz06]

In the 10 minutes I spent in one, it was surprisingly easy to drive.

No idea how it performs at its limits though.

[AnthonyF]

I saw the vid on viperclub.org The car is absolutely perfect. The driver is a little jerky with the wheel in the video and the gearing seems incorrect but that course you can't really have the "perfect" gearing.

ACR > ZR-1 all day...every day.

-Ant.

[AnthonyF]

Could you imagine navigating 8.4litres of fury around that track w/o any electronics. I am sure that wing is more than needed.

After watching the video he could possibly shave a second or so off from the misshifts, but that car is badass. Another lap in the car he could definitely be in the 7:20.8 range. I hope this car is on GT5.


edit: lol, I am getting confused between the 3 threads.

I can..sorta. I've navigated the 8.3L along 85 and all over GA, but then I had to put it back in the garage. (It's dads)

-Ant.

[AnthonyF]

yea,i dont like this.........but hey.guess we will have to wait to see some real ZR1 vs ACR

ZR1 - $120,000 bucks correct? somewhere around there
ACR- $95,000-98,000
ZR1- Super charged
ACR- N/A


2008 Dodge Viper ACR > Chevy Carvette ZR-1

-Ant.

[1SLWPOS]

ZR1 - $120,000 bucks correct? somewhere around there
ACR- $95,000-98,000
ZR1- Super charged
ACR- N/A


2008 Dodge Viper ACR > Chevy Carvette ZR-1

-Ant.

Your are wrong about the price of the ZR1. The mark up is crazy high on that car not sure on the ACR. I think Mr.Kidd did a thread on the mark up a few weeks ago.


**Found it****
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184094&highlight=ZR-1

[BobbyFresco]

I would drive the hell out of the Viper and probably kill myself in the process....it's just a beast of a car.

[UpSideDownDesi]

simply stunning......number and the car itself. I wasn't really diggin the Devil's Stripe, but the red paint scheme really did it from me...i am in love.

[alpine_aw11]

I love the stripe, makes it look evil. Which is more than appropriate.

[MistaCee]

I can..sorta. I've navigated the 8.3L along 85 and all over GA, but then I had to put it back in the garage. (It's dads)

-Ant.

Lol can you say bragging?

[AnthonyF]

Your are wrong about the price of the ZR1. The mark up is crazy high on that car not sure on the ACR. I think Mr.Kidd did a thread on the mark up a few weeks ago.


**Found it****
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184094&highlight=ZR-1
Forget the mark up. A price is a price.is there a mark up on the viper? Not even on the ACR. No matter what any of you say,
ACT > ZR1

-Ant.

[AnthonyF]

Lol can you say bragging?
I can say privelaged.

-Ant.

[alpine_aw11]

Forget the mark up. A price is a price.is there a mark up on the viper? Not even on the ACR. No matter what any of you say,
ACT > ZR1

-Ant.

Exactly. People keep bringing price into the mix like it's going to effect their decision on which one they're going to buy, lulz. ACR ftw all day. ZR1 killa suckas!

[Atlblkz06]

I have to admit, I adore the way that viper looks - freakin SICK.

Forget the ZR1, I'd take one of these anyday. Beast of a motor, monster of a car!

Technically speaking the ZR1 is 99k-105 MSRP. Pretty close to the Viper, but I doubt you can find either of em without markup.

This WILL CHANGE - as the "omfg look its the new ZR1/ACR" factor wears off, the prices will go down.

Has the FGT been on the ring yet? Wonder how it did.

For that matter I wonder how the Z06 would do with real tires on it.

[OneSlow5pt0]

well dont put down the vette,without it thier would be no viper...........i love having both cars in the automotive world

[joseph dale]

lol @ acr not having any markup....

[4uh8ers]

So he was in 2nd 3rd for most of the run?? Crazy.

[RUFFIAN]

great pics. Vipers are not to be taken lightly. By the opposition or their drivers.

[SicStang03]

Lol can you say bragging?

LOL can you say jealous?

[AnthonyF]

well dont put down the vette,without it thier would be no viper...........i love having both cars in the automotive world
Incorrect sir. Without the Shelby Cobra...there would be no Viper. :D

lol @ acr not having any markup....
There isn't. SRT-10 was at 92k first, then the SRT-10 coupe was at 98k, the Viper ACR is supposed to be right at 96-98k :goodjob:

So he was in 2nd 3rd for most of the run?? Crazy.
3rd,4th and 5th.

-Ant.

[OneSlow5pt0]

Incorrect sir. Without the Shelby Cobra...there would be no Viper. :D

There isn't. SRT-10 was at 92k first, then the SRT-10 coupe was at 98k, the Viper ACR is supposed to be right at 96-98k :goodjob:

3rd,4th and 5th.

-Ant.

so the viper wasnt built to compete with the vette?before the viper,the vette was the only real american sports cars,and when the viper is discontinued.......the vette will still be here

[EJ25RUN]

so the viper wasnt built to compete with the vette?before the viper,the vette was the only real american sports cars,and when the viper is discontinued.......the vette will still be here

Chrysler went to Carrol Shelby when they wanted a sports car. After their 80's cheap turbo power hadn't saved them, they needed a car to represent the brand. It wasn't just marketed against the Vetee. It was more "Look what we can do"

Just compare a 92 Viper to a Cobra.

Carrol Shelby drove the Indy Pace Car in 1991
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/dodge-viper-7.jpghttp://www.musclecardrive.com/images/_articles/cobra427.jpg

[MistaCee]

I can say privelaged.

-Ant.

Sure cant spell it.

[MistaCee]

LOL can you say jealous?

Can you say yes. Lol.

[STI101]

7.22 damn thats insane!! That car is so mean looking. Great pics!

[OneSlow5pt0]

Chrysler went to Carrol Shelby when they wanted a sports car. After their 80's cheap turbo power hadn't saved them, they needed a car to represent the brand. It wasn't just marketed against the Vetee. It was more "Look what we can do"

Just compare a 92 Viper to a Cobra.

Carrol Shelby drove the Indy Pace Car in 1991
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/dodge-viper-7.jpghttp://www.musclecardrive.com/images/_articles/cobra427.jpg


yea i know shelby hand is hand in on this,but i dont think people that like vipers should disrespect vette people and vise vera.........thier both great cars that complete with one another

[FoolsDrifFWD]

that thing looks so sick

[Julio]

To bad the Viper dont sale.. No ones buys that piece of ****.. we all know the Quality of the viper is that similiar of a Kia Rio on Steroids.

No wonder rumours are out of the Viper not being made anymore...

**** ZR1 >> Viper all day..

[Julio]

Incorrect sir. Without the Shelby Cobra...there would be no Viper. :D




Sorry Ant .. lol what are you talking about ? You mean, how the 1st Gen of vipes tried to copy the look of the Shelby?

It was all about the Vettes and Shelby back in the day.. ****, The 1st real I thought was :

Mustang
Vette
Shelby ( trying to outdo the vette w/ fords backup after the vette killed the stang)

[_Christian_]

You mean, how the 1st Gen of vipes tried to copy the look of the Shelby?

Essentially Shelby copied his own design, not dodge trying to make a knockoff. I like how the 1st gen viper has similar design cues of the cobra. They both look great. Sorry, but the build quality on most american cars isn't all that great... The 1st gen viper was built to be a street legal racecar. It has no exteior door handles, no roll up windows, no a/c.

ACR>ZR1>GTR IMO

[alpine_aw11]

Sorry Ant .. lol what are you talking about ? You mean, how the 1st Gen of vipes tried to copy the look of the Shelby?

It was all about the Vettes and Shelby back in the day.. ****, The 1st real I thought was :

Mustang
Vette
Shelby ( trying to outdo the vette w/ fords backup after the vette killed the stang)

Mustangs and Vettes have never been in the same field of cars. Of course a Vette will kill a Stang on all accounts, they're built for a completely different purpose.

ACR>zr1 all day, every day.

[AnthonyF]

Sure cant spell it.Irrelevant.


To bad the Viper dont sale.. No ones buys that piece of ****.. we all know the Quality of the viper is that similiar of a Kia Rio on Steroids.

No wonder rumours are out of the Viper not being made anymore...

**** ZR1 >> Viper all day..
They dont sell? Honestly Julio, do some research before talking about another vehicle if you know nothing about it. I know nothing about the GTR, all I can say is I dont care for it.

The viper doesnt sell? They make what...? 3,500 a year and hold their resale VERY well. They are in the top cars for holding their resale value.

Quality of the viper? Ever worked on one? I am 23 and Im the only one who touches the Vipers coming into the shop. I love how they desgined everything about it and the strength of all the parts and quality put into every detail.


Sorry Ant .. lol what are you talking about ? You mean, how the 1st Gen of vipes tried to copy the look of the Shelby?

It was all about the Vettes and Shelby back in the day.. ****, The 1st real I thought was :

Mustang
Vette
Shelby ( trying to outdo the vette w/ fords backup after the vette killed the stang)
The influence of the Viper came from the Shelby. You can say the C5 vette copied the looks of the 90ish 300z...just longer. lolol. And no, the Viper looks nothing like the Shelby Cobra, only SORTA looks like the Cobra Race car with the blue and white stripes. And If you wanted to back your statement you would have to mention the 1st and 2nd gen vipers, but since you know nothing about the Mopar line, you wouldnt know that were are FOUR GENERATIONS of Vipers.

It wasn't "ALL" about Vettes and Shelby's back in the day. Ever heard of the trans am series back in the day? Who ran it back then? Mustangs and Comaros were the top 2 competitors.

Julio...love you man.....but do some research in a VERY heated debate.

AND PLEASE SHOW ME ANYWHERE where the ZR-1 is better than the Viper.. OTHER than price. :lmfao:

-Ant.

[JEY$JDM]

****in sweet.. hardcore i mean! lol.
Zakspeed FTW!!!
..fo sho

[AnthonyF]

Mustangs and Vettes have never been in the same field of cars. Of course a Vette will kill a Stang on all accounts, they're built for a completely different purpose.

ACR>zr1 all day, every day.

lolol My "sh*tty" 6cyl mustang walked a few Vettes, even a stock C6 :goodjob:


yea i know shelby hand is hand in on this,but i dont think people that like vipers should disrespect vette people and vise vera.........thier both great cars that complete with one anotherI am not disrespecting Vette owners. I am saying the Viper IS better than the ZR-1. Period. Yes, I am a Viper enthusiast and will be a Viper owner soon (could have been already...stupid mudstain).

In LeMans I will bash the Vette b/c the Vette is GM backed and has 20 million to back EACH car. The Viper teams are generally private owned and only has $1 Million for the ENTIRE year.
-Ant.

[OneSlow5pt0]

lolol My "sh*tty" 6cyl mustang walked a few Vettes, even a stock C6 :goodjob:

I am not disrespecting Vette owners. I am saying the Viper IS better than the ZR-1. Period. Yes, I am a Viper enthusiast and will be a Viper owner soon (could have been already...stupid mudstain).

In LeMans I will bash the Vette b/c the Vette is GM backed and has 20 million to back EACH car. The Viper teams are generally private owned and only has $1 Million for the ENTIRE year.
-Ant.

so u wouldnt care if the vette was discontinued?

cause i know as a camaro owner,id hate for mustangs to stop being made

[AnthonyF]

so u wouldnt care if the vette was discontinued?

cause i know as a camaro owner,id hate for mustangs to stop being made

Me Personally....No. Not really. I could careless. I liked the C1 and C5. That's about it. If the Vette disappears....what a joy it would be to stop seeing the Comb-Over crowd cruising the streets.

-Ant.

[alpine_aw11]

lolol My "sh*tty" 6cyl mustang walked a few Vettes, even a stock C6 :goodjob:

Well then you had something serious done lol. I was talking stock to stock of course.

[SouthSide Tay]

im not even a viper fan but this one might change that?

[AnthonyF]

Well then you had something serious done lol. I was talking stock to stock of course.
I guess you didnt know me before as TRYMY4.0 :goodjob:

-Ant.

[alpine_aw11]

I guess you didnt know me before as TRYMY4.0 :goodjob:

-Ant.

Nope. Still noob status over here lol. I think I saw the car when I used to just look at stuff on here before I turned 18, black rims with the red lip right? If so that thing was boner worthy.

[AnthonyF]

yup yup :)
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/TRYMY40/mustang13.jpg

-Ant.