so yeah.....

[AznTraitor]

so my bro in law took off for Mississippi, we packed up his truck with bottled water, lots of non perishables, flashlights, night glo sticks, and some fresh fruits.....his grandma's house which is in Gulfport about 15mins away from all the casinos was completely flooded, they had to take refuge in the attic and all the cars were submerged in water, and apparently will not have power for a few weeks and the stores have already been looted early this morning, so I stopped by publix and bought as much as I could to help.....I feel so bad for them because everything we take for granted, electricity, running water, is something they dont have.

[B16a2 Civic]

yea...its very unfortunate what has happened, glad you are taking a positive step in helping in any way possible...good man Peter.

[Brett]

Yeah, I know all to well how they feel, I went through Andrew and in some areas it took 6 months before they had power and runniung water. You dont realizde how good we have it till you are in a situation like that first hand

[4dmin]

looters should be shot on site

[Brett]

^^ Very true, I have no respect for a thief as it is, but it takes a very low person to fuckin steal from stores and homes in a time of disaster like that, and to take from people already loosing everything they have

[AznTraitor]

thanks B....

oh brett, dont get me started on my family in Slidell.....they all high tailed to Texas, and dont know what has happened to their homes, all fairly new and right on the Poncetrain, on the stilts of course....but we are all worried because no pictures have surfaced from St.Tammany's Parish/Slidell.....so we figure for the worse......my uncle who was a avid boat lover and classic car collector....I'm sure his boats are gone as his cars.....we just wish they would show something of the Slidell/St Tammany Parish area....so if you guys see anything, post links for me!

thanks!

[HEATON]

SO should the ppl that sell shit as Extremely high prices when ppl r in actual need. I rem one time in Florida -think it was Hur. Opal- Budweiser canned water and jus dropped it in cases along the roads for ppl.

[Kristi]

its sad that people are looting. i was reading a story saying police arrested a bunch of people for looting and shit. the police have bigger problems to deal with - like rescuing people and shouldn't have to deal with that shit.

i've got clients in both MS, and AL - I hope they are doing ok. I saw pics of New Orleans and couldn't believe it. It looks totally different.

[AznTraitor]

SO should the ppl that sell shit as Extremely high prices when ppl r in actual need. I rem one time in Florida -think it was Hur. Opal- Budweiser canned water and jus dropped it in cases along the roads for ppl.


no, price gouging is being monitored best it can for what shops and gas stations that can open.....I filled two 5 gallon fuel tanks and sent that with the food...because I knew for a fact that no gas stations were operating in Gulfport.

[Brett]

Yeah when Andrew hit, Price gouging was outrageous, Generators where being sold at high ass prices

[AznTraitor]

its sad that people are looting. i was reading a story saying police arrested a bunch of people for looting and shit. the police have bigger problems to deal with - like rescuing people and shouldn't have to deal with that shit.

i've got clients in both MS, and AL - I hope they are doing ok. I saw pics of New Orleans and couldn't believe it. It looks totally different.


did you know that in the early hours of the morning police and the military saw people the looting going on, but did nothing? tony's uncle went out and told them, but they said that they could do nothing just yet.....so basically, people who were greedy and wanted food for themselves are gonna go unpunished.

[Brett]

I think during times of disaster, people getting caught looting should be arrested with a felony charge, Make people fear doing it and spending years in jail.

[Kristi]

i agree brett. i feel bad for all those people over there, i can't imagine going through that. i've been through a tornado or two, but never a hurricane.

[AznTraitor]

I think during times of disaster, people getting caught looting should be arrested with a felony charge, Make people fear doing it and spending years in jail.


nah, people usually dont get caught until way after the major looting has been done....the freaking publix was cleared out, and so was the CVS and Walgreens.

[AznTraitor]

oh btw....I sent him off with my digi cam, so hopefully I'll be able to post up some pics of what is going on around there.

[Brett]

i agree brett. i feel bad for all those people over there, i can't imagine going through that. i've been through a tornado or two, but never a hurricane.

Yeah a hurricane is a intense thing to go through, I have been through ones from David to Andrew.... Some small some large, Intense non the less and it lasts for hours upon hours

[HEATON]

no, price gouging is being monitored best it can for what shops and gas stations that can open.
Oops Sorry i was refferin that ppl that DO price gouge should be shot also along with looters...lol

[Scrappy]

This is what I like to see, :goodjob: the guy getting what he deserves. And I have heard some just around town and stuff here saying "They can stop it, they arent doing thier jobs :blah: pisses me off they dont listen to the whole thing of that they CANT get to them :rant:

sorry :( peter I am glad we have people like you wanting to help them :D

[HEATON]

Heres a thought and be honest with the comments.. If someone looted a store for supplies, is that still wrong? Or is it like commadering something thats to be used for the greater of good.

[Scrappy]

depends, the guy above had zero survival nessesities (sp?) so he deserves what he gets, mostlikely deserves worse.

[HEATON]

^ I know, wasnt referring to the pic, but its good to see he got what he deserved and ALSO that it doesnt looked that messed up there.

[AznTraitor]

well first of all, when there was a MANDATORY evacuation....why did they stay behind in the first place?


okay, so let's look at the reasons why...

they had no means of transportation or money....that is not true, because almost all churches had all of their vans/buses for use for evacuation to a shelter in north Louisiana....

now, why do you need to loot tv's, radio's, and most importantly, ATM machines?

people were looting as soon as the weather let up for just a few minutes...the winds were still 70-75mph, but they knew that it was time to strike....

also, why loot? everyone knows you are in need, FEMA is trying to roll in...Salvation army has more than enough food at this point...

people are just greedy because they want MORE...doesnt matter what it is, they just want MORE than others.


and now to make matters worse, they are saying numerous pawn shops were looted for only the weapons....so now you have people who are theives and now have weapons in their hands....

[CMO]

One of my friends parents live in NO and they haven't heard from his dad in awhile. Last time they heard from him he was trapped in the attic.

[AznTraitor]

One of my friends parents live in NO and they haven't heard from his dad in awhile. Last time they heard from him he was trapped in the attic.



that sucks....cell phone service is really spotty, but 99% of the time it's down....but you can catch a break every now and then, hope he's okay.

[HiPSI]

that sucks....cell phone service is really spotty, but 99% of the time it's down....but you can catch a break every now and then, hope he's okay.


with the winds they were having in the area i'm sure most of the cell towers have been beaten up pretty good. that, and the backup generators can only last so long before they run out of fuel so they will turn towers off/on in different locations to try to conserve it. my dad couldn't get service most of the day today in meridian but it popped on with the power later in the day.

he spent all day clearing trees off his coworkers house... nearly every large tree in the yard came down.

[HiPSI]

oh, and are they just going to let tony into the area? most of the cities are cut off except for law enforcement/rescue personnel. or will he just bust in like asian rambo in a kayak?

[AznTraitor]

oh, and are they just going to let tony into the area? most of the cities are cut off except for law enforcement/rescue personnel. or will he just bust in like asian rambo in a kayak?


Ranger Rgt Cpt, and MI....I'm sure he's gonna bust thru!

I've tried calling him, but his cellphone is out of service now too....I dont think he's making it back tonight.

apparently him and duke are gonna head in thru the north instead of takin i-10

[AznTraitor]

btw...what's your dad doing in meridian?

I'm debating after classes on friday to head out and see if I can help tony's family, or try and head to Louisiana to help all my cousins re-coup....if the roads are passable and it's okay to go in, wanna head out?

[AznTraitor]

I take that back erin, looks like most of i-90, and i-10 bridges are completely destroyed.....I just saw new helicopter footage, and looks like it's almost impossible to get from mississippi to louisiana....

[Brett]

The police need to go in there and shoot looters on site, send a message hardcore, kill a few the rest of thier worthless fuckers will want to save thier worthless lives and not try and steal hat last possessions people have left.

[technoteg97]

Just in: Some guy jumped from the high level of the superdome and Commited Suicide..now thats 3 people who have died inside the superdome.

[Brett]

What webite or station has that? I cant find that on CNN or FOXNEWS sites

[AznTraitor]

wow, I heard living conditions in the superdome were quite bad, but cant be that bad....

so far they said, all toilets are over flowing, no power, no back up generators, running low on water, so I'm sure it's pretty rank in there...but it's not much better outside, because with all that flood water, brings all that bacteria and such....

[Brett]

I still havent seen anything on any news site or on the news about anyone jumping and killing themself in the dome, Id think that would have made the news by now

[technoteg97]

I'll give you a link, hold on

[AznTraitor]

I still havent seen anything on any news site or on the news about anyone jumping and killing themself in the dome, Id think that would have made the news by now


well, I finally got in touch with my family who is safe in TX, we are all really curious on why no media has shown Slidell/St Tammny's Parish...from what others have heard, they will not let media into that area....and have been told that it might be 1 month before they can go back to figure the damages, so they said they are heading here tomorrow afternoon and then onto my parents house, which is way bigger and has lots more room....

anyways, if any one sees anything about Slidell/St Tammny's Parish, please let me know!

[Brett]

well, I finally got in touch with my family who is safe in TX, we are all really curious on why no media has shown Slidell/St Tammny's Parish...from what others have heard, they will not let media into that area....and have been told that it might be 1 month before they can go back to figure the damages, so they said they are heading here tomorrow afternoon and then onto my parents house, which is way bigger and has lots more room....

anyways, if any one sees anything about Slidell/St Tammny's Parish, please let me know!

Peter, they had someone on Star 94 today from that area if I remember correctly, He was saying that whole area was underwater, But I may be wrong about the area he was talking about

[technoteg97]

http://www.wdsu.com/news/4916024/detail.html -Another Person Dies At Superdome, Possibly From Suicide

These local new orleans news have lots updated news about this hurricane aftermath

[5thgcelica]

man.. you know what we need to do.

i know some of you..and we've got a pick up..lets just load up... gas and chain saws and go help some people out...

[Brett]

I will wait to see if that hits major news networks first, Sometimes these local people in times like this report without all the facts ya know

[5thgcelica]

^^ brett.. i heard it on 99x today when i was at work..

soooooo. yeah.

[technoteg97]

..I got school and work, hah.. 80% of new orleans is underwater..and Im sure as the days go on without stopping the water from comming in the percent of that will go up.

..And they wont let anyone in those areas. or nor they can go back home for atleast a month I heard, only reason they can come back for is see if there is anything left of their home ..grab anything they can get..and get back out. and residents need proper Identification to get to their homes.

[AznTraitor]

Peter, they had someone on Star 94 today from that area if I remember correctly, He was saying that whole area was underwater, But I may be wrong about the area he was talking about


that's what I am already figuring for that area.

[AznTraitor]

man.. you know what we need to do.

i know some of you..and we've got a pick up..lets just load up... gas and chain saws and go help some people out...


dont worry, once my family from Louisiana gets here and regroups, I'm sure me and all the men are gonna load up and head that way once they allow us to enter.

[Brett]

Now they want EVERYONE out of New Orleans, Water is going to rise another 12-15 feet because they gave up on trying to stop the levee breach, I feel so bad for these people

[5thgcelica]

wow are you serious brett?

[technoteg97]

...damn wtf..this is U.S..all the smart people...and they gave up?..how can they just give up..so now they are just going t0 wait this out..and let it get really bad..then slowly let the water go down itself?

[5thgcelica]

well....... how do you just randomly stop walls of water to come in..its not exactly easy to just stop water with the flick of a swtich.

[AznTraitor]

yeah, they were saying they have been helicoptering in sand all day, but the lake water and the excess water is just washing it all away and because it's already below sea level, the current is just too strong...

[technoteg97]

plus right now, first thing on anyones mind is Search and Rescue..and to find the missing and Dead, & food, water supplies.

[JITB]

I got 20 family members that got the hell out and went to Texas. And they livedwithin the city limits, sooo im pretty sure that there house is gone. Sucks we were just down there 2 weeks ago for a weeding.

messed up situation and its getting worse....all u can do it wait

[Brett]

...damn wtf..this is U.S..all the smart people...and they gave up?..how can they just give up..so now they are just going t0 wait this out..and let it get really bad..then slowly let the water go down itself?

Not that they gave up, Its just a loosing fight, the water is coming in to fast for them to make a difference and the pumps in that area are about to give out, nothing they can do at this point, Its not like they can get heavy equipment in to build a wall, they are doing this by hand with sandbags and its not helping, so they had to back off and worry about getting people out now instead. The damage is done

[AznTraitor]

this is what so many of those bridges are looking like

http://www.foxnews.com/photo_essay/photoessay_569_images/083005_KatrinaFlood7.jpg

and sections of bridges washed away doesnt look like a easy fix.

[Brett]

Yeah I couldnt believe that today when I saw that, Youd think the bridges would have been built well enough to withstand the wind, but then you realize it was the 20+ foot waves that did that.

[AznTraitor]

Yeah I couldnt believe that today when I saw that, Youd think the bridges would have been built well enough to withstand the wind, but then you realize it was the 20+ foot waves that did that.


there are bridges that are way worse off, at least that one still has one side intact....there were pictures of some bridges completely swept away and then some with so many sections missing, it would probably be better to just build a new one.

[Brett]

And to think the hurricane season has just begun, Thats the scarey part, God know whats lies ahead for these areas for the rest of the season

[JITB]

Did u all see the casino in biloxi that used to float int he water, that was moved all the way onshore, and landed ontop of a hotel. that was scary shit.

[Brett]

Now 2 guys with Ak47's have shot at a police station, Its on www.foxnews.com

This situation is getting unstable very quick.

[Scrappy]

this is what so many of those bridges are looking like

http://www.foxnews.com/photo_essay/photoessay_569_images/083005_KatrinaFlood7.jpg

and sections of bridges washed away doesnt look like a easy fix.

peter techno believes that can be fixed easily...
:doh:

[AznTraitor]

peter techno believes that can be fixed easily...
:doh:


does he believe in the tooth fairy and pixie dust too?

[SD STI LOVER]

Now 2 guys with Ak47's have shot at a police station, Its on www.foxnews.com

This situation is getting unstable very quick.

where is that at? i can't find it?

[AznTraitor]

well, it's been confirmed

"The entire downtown area of Slidell, across Lake Pontchartrain from New Orleans in St. Tammany Parish, was under 15 feet of water, emergency management officials said." - CNN.com

there's also footage of the damage that has been done to slidell, all homes are etheir under water or completely destroyed...you can barely make out roads...

I wont even know what to say to my cousins and aunt and uncle once they get here, because I'm sure they havent seen the video or pictures yet.

[SD STI LOVER]

well, it's been confirmed

"The entire downtown area of Slidell, across Lake Pontchartrain from New Orleans in St. Tammany Parish, was under 15 feet of water, emergency management officials said." - CNN.com

there's also footage of the damage that has been done to slidell, all homes are etheir under water or completely destroyed...you can barely make out roads...

I wont even know what to say to my cousins and aunt and uncle once they get here, because I'm sure they havent seen the video or pictures yet.

is your family from louisiana?

[CMO]

AznTraitor I saw Slidell on the news lastnight. Almost everything there is either underwater or gone man. I would have posted it up so you could watch it but I didn't have internet access where I was lastnight.

[HiPSI]

I take that back erin, looks like most of i-90, and i-10 bridges are completely destroyed.....I just saw new helicopter footage, and looks like it's almost impossible to get from mississippi to louisiana....


I-10 is gone in chunks from what i saw...

and my dad works out in meridian.

[AznTraitor]

is your family from louisiana?


all my favorite cousins, and my uncle and aunt are, I visit them at least 3 times a year....but I dont see that happening anymore...


btw, thanks for all the info....I went to nola.com and found out about Slidell, it's in pretty bad shape, they are not letting anyone in or around that area because it's too "hazardous"

my brother in law made it back this morning, he said after passing mobile, gas stations were pretty much non exsistent, the closer they got to gulfport they had to manuever around trees and drive over alot of debris and once they got into gulfport he said there were slot machines littered throughout the streets, houses, gas stations, stores all wiped clean.....they had to climb a wall of debris to get to his grandmother's house and she was fine and so was the rest of the family, but his grandma and uncle refused to leave and wanted to stay behind and clean up, even after being told that they will not have power for weeks if not months....they had to siphon gas out of cars on the side of the road to get enough fuel to get out, he said he had to keep it in 4wd most of the time, and there was stench in the air that was really horrible. They ran out of fuel about 15miles before Mobile, and were able to coast it to a gas station that was closed and slept there over night, until someone drove to them and said that the gas station down the road was open but had a long line to wait....so they made it there and filled up and made it back just before noon....he's got tons of pics, but I forgot the grab his camera because he had to get back on base to work today, because he's on call to be deployed soon....

I'll post pics when I get them.

[Brett]

Damn so sad, I cant see how they are dealing with any of this

[SD STI LOVER]

ok cool man. sorry to hear about that. it is really messed up. good luck to your family,

[AznTraitor]

Damn so sad, I cant see how they are dealing with any of this


well my sister has been using some up to date satellite imagery and has located my aunt's and 2 of my cousins homes and the only thing you can see is the roof and nothing but water and debris around it, unfortunately two of my other cousins houses arent even showing up, or any house in their neighborhoods...so we are feared that two of their homes are completely gone.

they are gonna bypass us here in columbus and head straight for my parents house, so after friday classes I am gonna head to ATL and then gonna load up some water, food and gas and head to Louisiana....apparently they will have a chance this weekend to go back for a very SHORT time to pull any valuables or things of importance and then leave immediately.

[Cliff]

geeze this insane...mom's been watching and we were just there for spring break and now it is all destroyed...the motel we stayed in was right by the beach beside where the floating casino was....

[Scrappy]

http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/31/news/gas_prices/index.htm?cnn=yes

says the $4.00 report :(

:(:(:(:(:(:(

[technoteg97]

Gasoline to reach $5.00 my uncles n dads gas stations are running out of gas fast!

people are filling up as much as 40-60G at a time.