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Julio
08-29-2005, 09:58 PM
There was a soldier recently killed in IRAQ from SNEVILLE .. I was watching the news and they said he was promoted to Seargent?


Why would he get promoted from Specialist to Seargent only after he was killed in war? Im sure is being done in an Honorary way...

But why after he gets killed?


Opinions.

Brett
08-29-2005, 10:02 PM
They do it to give him a stronger honor for giving his life for this country

Julio
08-29-2005, 10:04 PM
They do it to give him a stronger honor for giving his life for this country

I think there should be something else that should be given in respect to that.

I just cant properly point my finger at it.... "He gave his life for this country.

And all he got was seargent?" Do you get where im trying to go with this?

AznTraitor
08-29-2005, 10:08 PM
mainly as a courtesy to the family....

but it also couldve been a possibilty that his promotion was already in the works but he was killed before being able to be issued the rank...

HEATON
08-30-2005, 04:29 PM
Diego didnt become a citizen until after he died. Its weird, Im pretty sure there's more into the story then that, most likely he got promoted to Sgt bc of something he did that was heroic, that overall caused his death. Kinda like alot of Medal of Honor cases.

4dmin
08-30-2005, 04:39 PM
that is kinda weird, the Diego thing was kinda lame too, i think anyone on a green card that puts in their time w/ the military should be granted citizen ship... Come on you can fight/die for a country that your not a citizen of :rolleyes:

Brett
08-30-2005, 04:40 PM
YEah if they allowed him to enlist and defend what we believe in and live for, they should have made him a citizen long before he died, should have been down the day he joined the armed forces

HEATON
08-30-2005, 05:06 PM
Well, you have to be careful with that theory Brett and Admin, bc think of how many ppl trick Americans into gettin pregnant to get citizenship, and sad to say ppl would do the same and just join so there family will be citizens when the military member became one. In turn, you would have sackless peices of shit controlling million dollar equipment and on the front lines. A gurl who works with me just became a citizen; she is from Canada, been in like almost 2 years. Thus non US citizen means she has never been granted a security clearance for the flightline like many of us others have.

AznTraitor
08-30-2005, 05:09 PM
Well, you have to be careful with that theory Brett and Admin, bc think of how many ppl trick Americans into gettin pregnant to get citizenship, and sad to say ppl would do the same and just join so there family will be citizens when the military member became one. In turn, you would have sackless peices of shit controlling million dollar equipment and on the front lines. A gurl who works with me just became a citizen; she is from Canada, been in like almost 2 years. Thus non US citizen means she has never been granted a security clearance for the flightline like many of us others have.


correct....

Jaimecbr900
08-30-2005, 05:37 PM
I follow what Heaton is saying and kinda agree to a point, but you have to also remember that just because one person is granted citizenship it doesn't automatically make the members of his family citizens.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they have to go thru the some process before obtaining their citizenship too. I thought the only way to get automatic citizenship is via birth. :confused:

Julio
08-30-2005, 05:41 PM
Why get rewarded after death? Is what i really meant.

I believe you need to take some sorta of a test on US history and been here for a certain period. But not sure how that works.

Maverick
08-30-2005, 05:53 PM
They do it to give him a stronger honor for giving his life for this countryi agree

Macro
08-30-2005, 05:57 PM
Julio your making a good point, but also no one remembers PFC Smith. Now if it were Sgt. Smith it would of been differnt. I.e PFC Smith is my homeboy who recently died in Camp Lejeune during a swiming course. He had the flu didn't tell anyone jump into freezing cold water and passed out and drowned. People might think it was stupid of him to do that, they have no choice they fight for the honor of their beloved country that civilians take freedom for granted and dont understand that if they dont do this it iwll happen again and again.Dude! these guys go through so much, I say let things happen dont be negative. Support our fellow soldiers which is the hardest job in the world, either millions love you or hate you. They take insults and best wishes. so if this dude get

HEATON
08-30-2005, 06:01 PM
Well yes, there is a process by Birth isnt the onlyw ay, Say a Father from Country A arrives and over time becomes a citizen, well since his family relies on him they also become citizen and get the same rights, same as if your child becomes a citizen you will also.

BUT

Julio i think in the movies Pearl Harbor its said best. "Top Secret missions, the ones that your family will be recieving your awards for.." (..not exactly whats said but the jist of it..) I dont know exactly WHY they still reward him, they just do. Kidna like a "why not" thing, doesnt really hurt anyone NOT to do it so may as well. But like i said most likely there was more depth into the story which the media failed to cover, just like ALOT of stuff they do.

T-Mo Goodie
08-30-2005, 06:24 PM
They do it to give him a stronger honor for giving his life for this country

I agree to that. My brother was in the Army for 8yrs. Last year, two weeks before he was to officially get out of the Army, they promoted him to Seargent. Alothough I do feel like he deserved it, it was kind of like "heres some more money, we are about to fuck you over" lol. Some of you may remember me talking about it. Long story short, my brother was due to get out of the army, two weeks before he gets out, hes promoted. A little less than a week before his release date he gets a letter saying his time is extended and that he was getting deployed to Iraq for 1.5 years, he fights it, and won.

HEATON
08-30-2005, 07:41 PM
Heres a lil tip for ya... If he goes back and look at his contract when he signed up there is a very lil clause, it goes along the lines of you serve X amount of years (8 years in my case) no matter what. I chose to serve 6 years off the bat so after that 6 years i go into reserve status for 2 more years, so if they want to they can say too bad your stayin in a full 8. Im rather sure your bro has prbly re-enlisted at some time while he was in during his 8, which means knew terms of contract came about.

T-Mo Goodie
08-30-2005, 08:06 PM
He did his contractual 8 years. This was a couple of days before his release date that they were trying to deploy him.

HEATON
08-30-2005, 08:33 PM
Well They try to take care of their ppl, but as 'we' all know. Mission First. Sad but true. Kidna like ''Shut up and Color''

T-Mo Goodie
08-30-2005, 09:18 PM
hahaha true