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Maniacc
08-19-2008, 12:07 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/08/18/god.vs.doctors.ap/index.html On the upside... nah, there's no upside to this.

An eye-opening survey reveals widespread belief that divine intervention can revive dying patients. And, researchers said, doctors "need to be prepared to deal with families who are waiting for a miracle."
More than half of randomly surveyed adults -- 57 percent -- said God's intervention could save a family member even if physicians declared treatment would be futile. And nearly three-quarters said patients have a right to demand that treatment continue.

When asked to imagine their own relatives being gravely ill or injured, nearly 20 percent of doctors and other medical workers said God could reverse a hopeless outcome.

Maniacc
08-19-2008, 02:08 PM
Let me add what I think about this with a question. Why would someone who believes in a place of eternal bliss after death, pray that someone does not go there?

buddha@TeamFX
08-19-2008, 02:36 PM
I can give you what I know I've seen 3 different family member that have gone on now come through things when the doctors said they wouldn't. One of them the doctors had called the family in numerous times and said she wouldn't make it and she did. I do believe it does make a difference but also when its your time its your time.

Big J
08-19-2008, 03:42 PM
I'll take my chances with the doctors

BanginJimmy
08-19-2008, 05:49 PM
I can give you what I know I've seen 3 different family member that have gone on now come through things when the doctors said they wouldn't. One of them the doctors had called the family in numerous times and said she wouldn't make it and she did. I do believe it does make a difference but also when its your time its your time.

For every case that a religious person outlived the doctors expectations I can think of an athiest that did the same thing.

I have more faith in the weatherman than I do in any gods.

Maniacc
08-19-2008, 06:00 PM
I can give you what I know I've seen 3 different family member that have gone on now come through things when the doctors said they wouldn't. One of them the doctors had called the family in numerous times and said she wouldn't make it and she did. I do believe it does make a difference but also when its your time its your time.
Well depending on the condition of the patient a lot can happen within the hour or days, or even minutes. The thing to remember about prayer is that it takes virtually no time or energy output, but can make one feel a whole helluva lot better. Psychologically speaking, the returns are staggeringly profitable. Yet realistically doesn't help the patient recover or make the patient miraculously come back to life.

allmotoronly
08-19-2008, 06:52 PM
To some people just having something to believe in gives them extra strength to not give up. I work in the healthcare field, and I can truely say that people who do not give up are more likely to make it through whatever they are going through than people who have no hope. It is a psychological thing.

Maniacc
08-19-2008, 08:17 PM
It is a psychological thing.
Exactly. There is no real purpose for it other than making one-self feel at peace. Still find it hard to believe that people keep thinking that praying connects you with a higher being thus making your wishes come true. It's 2008, we're far more advance then we were back 2000 years ago. So I think, we should start acting like it.

If Christians weren't hypocrites they'd be dancing on their children's graves. And If they weren't hypocrites, they wouldn't be Christians.

Maniacc
08-19-2008, 08:21 PM
This is kinda funny too. The Catholic way of death- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/special_report/1999/06/99/cardinal_hume_funeral/376263.stm

cornercarver78
08-19-2008, 08:34 PM
Exactly. There is no real purpose for it other than making one-self feel at peace. Still find it hard to believe that people keep thinking that praying connects you with a higher being thus making your wishes come true. It's 2008, we're far more advance then we were back 2000 years ago. So I think, we should start acting like it.

If Christians weren't hypocrites they'd be dancing on their children's graves. And If they weren't hypocrites, they wouldn't be Christians.

Sorry, and i agree with you to some extent, but I think you're seeing things in black and white. Christians believe (hope) that they are following the right path, they don't know it. Your right, if they knew then they would act differently. But I don't think the discrepancy proves anything one way or the other, or makes them hypocrites. :2cents:

Maniacc
08-19-2008, 08:51 PM
Sorry, and i agree with you to some extent, but I think you're seeing things in black and white. Christians believe (hope) that they are following the right path, they don't know it. Your right, if they knew then they would act differently. But I don't think the discrepancy proves anything one way or the other, or makes them hypocrites. :2cents:
I just threw the hypocrite statements out there for the hell of it. Just to see if anyone would get offended and start flaming me for it. The majority of the Christian community are good god followers, but there is a very large percentage of those that disobey the ways of 'God' and go out and act like hooligans, yet act like angels on Sundays.