So i was in atlanta and look what I saw

[RL...]

It's so much nicer in person, pictures cannot do this car any justice.:yes:

http://a293.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/25/l_aca6916ecc9c214f250332d8176953fc.jpg

[Tree]

the black looks good.. and thats about it

[Thighs]

:gay:

its not that big of a deal.

[SouthrnStyle]

Cool??? rick ride in it its more fun than looking at it then go take it for an oil change and you will be pissed

[kouki]

:gay:

its not that big of a deal.

looks 1000000x better than your pos. :goodjob:


PS: i really like the stock wheels on the GT-R, car looks great in person.

[Atlblkz06]

I wish someone would take me for a ride in one.

I really want to feel that AWD in action.

I just wish local dealerships wouldn't act so bitchy about these cars.

[Thighs]

looks 1000000x better than your pos. :goodjob:


PS: i really like the stock wheels on the GT-R, car looks great in person.

did i say it was ugly? no. im sorry for not worshiping the hamburger gods like you, i just dont find the car all that exciting.

[kouki]

did i say it was ugly? no. im sorry for not worshiping the hamburger gods like you, i just dont find the car all that exciting.

neither is your pos.... :gay:

[Thighs]

neither is your pos.... :gay:

i know.... what was ever exciting about a 1.6 miata with exhaust and lowering springs? i never said it was.

are you really that bothered by what i say?

[RL...]

Yea it sucks...Maybe I should be cool and buy a civic or a miata! The gtr from factory is a 10 second car, the interior is straight luxury, and it looks great. This is one of the best cars ever produced. PERIOD. How can you say it's not nice when your pos, is a pos... Miata > r35? I think not.

[kouki]

i know.... what was ever exciting about a 1.6 miata with exhaust and lowering springs? i never said it was.

are you really that bothered by what i say?

not at all, just wanted to point out your pos.... and how stupid you are for not being a follower and making dumb claims about the gt-r... if you could have one you would take it in a heart beat. youre just another retard :goodjob:

[Thighs]

Yea it sucks...Maybe I should be cool and buy a civic or a miata! The gtr from factory is a 10 second car, the interior is straight luxury, and it looks great. This is one of the best cars ever produced. PERIOD. How can you say it's not nice when your pos, is a pos... Miata > r35? I think not.

i never said it wasnt nice, in fact it is VERY nice, just not all that exciting to me, thats all.

am i not allowed to have an opinion?

[kouki]

Yea it sucks...Maybe I should be cool and buy a civic or a miata! The gtr from factory is a 10 second car, the interior is straight luxury, and it looks great. This is one of the best cars ever produced. PERIOD. How can you say it's not nice when your pos, is a pos... Miata > r35? I think not.


:lmfao: he's an idiot... only thing :gay: is his miata.

[kouki]

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

am i not allowed to have an opinion?


just stfu

[RL...]

to each his own I guess....

[BlkCD5]

originally posted by NissanTun3r
Yea it sucks...Maybe I should be cool and buy a civic or a miata! The gtr from factory is a 10 second car, the interior is straight luxury, and it looks great. This is one of the best cars ever produced. PERIOD. How can you say it's not nice when your pos, is a pos... Miata > r35? I think not.

Wow, way to be an *******. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I still see you're stuck on that honda hating ****. You still fail to see the reason why people buy certain cars. Its not really about the "cool" factor!

[RL...]

Wow, way to be an *******. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I still see you're stuck on that honda hating ****. You still fail to see the reason why people buy certain cars. Its not really about the "cool" factor!

Your're right as far as I could've replied with a more constructive reply, but to me, it's all about the cool/fun factor!

[Thighs]

Wow, way to be an *******. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I still see you're stuck on that honda hating ****. You still fail to see the reason why people buy certain cars. Its not really about the "cool" factor!

thank you for understanding taste and not following the cult.

+reps

edit: that should say "difference in taste". my bad.

[EJ25RUN]

not at all, just wanted to point out your pos.... and how stupid you are for not being a follower and making dumb claims about the gt-r... if you could have one you would take it in a heart beat. youre just another retard :goodjob:

hey look, it's the guy with the $5,000 car that was originally marketed toward women (This is fact and not a cheap jab) talking up the $70,000 car and talking down what was voted by a notarized publication as the best sports car of the 1990's.

Oh and lets see that list of Miata accomplishments.

Wiki......

The MX-5 has won over 150 awards in its history, including making Car and Driver magazine's annual Ten Best list seven times; Wheels Magazine 's Car of the Year for 1989 and 2005; Sports Car International's "best sports car of the 1990s" and "ten best sports cars of all time"; 2005-2006 Car of the Year Japan; and 2005 Australian Car of the Year.

So you see there "Cookie", this "pos", is the most rewarded sports car ever and your 1 opinion wont change a damn thing.

Now, just some more on the GTR. Call me a hypocrite as i do think the GTR is a great car but to show you fan boys why it ain't all that is fun too. I recently read a great article and the writer said he felt that the E30 M3 was a better drivers car than the GTR as it offered a better driving experience. That's right, a 21 year old car worth 1/8th of the GTR is better than the new hopped up Datsun. ;)


Your're right as far as I could've replied with a more constructive reply, but to me, it's all about the cool/fun factor!

My opinion... Cool factor means ****. Its a driver car relationship and it is based on driving pleasure. Nothing else.

[Deke]

Holy newb team-up Batman. While I do think it's an amazing car, chill out.

Back on topic, I'm definitely looking forward to seeing one in person.

Nice pic :goodjob:

[EJ25RUN]

Holy newb team-up Batman. While I do think it's an amazing car, chill out.

Back on topic, I'm definitely looking forward to seeing one in person.

Saw a dark silver one in Riverside couple days ago.

P.s......why don't you post as much. I remember we had some good discussions back in the day. : :cheers: :

[Deke]

Saw a dark silver one in Riverside couple days ago.

P.s......why don't you post as much. I remember we had some good discussions back in the day. : :cheers: :

I was actually in Europe the entire summer on a study abroad. I haven't quite gotten fully back into the forum world yet :)

Eventually I'm going to compile an album of all my car sitings for the summer and post them up...

[EJ25RUN]

I was actually in Europe the entire summer on a study abroad. I haven't quite gotten fully back into the forum world yet :)

Eventually I'm going to compile an album of all my car sitings for the summer and post them up...

Coo, i spent all of July in Israel. Twas fun to see all the tiny cars. Nothing like having 1.4L of fury in a 1993 Fiat Uno 4speed to make you miss the STI.

[RL...]

hey look, it's the guy with the $5,000 car that was originally marketed toward women (This is fact and not a cheap jab) talking up the $70,000 car and talking down what was voted by a notarized publication as the best sports car of the 1990's.

Oh and lets see that list of Miata accomplishments.

Wiki......

The MX-5 has won over 150 awards in its history, including making Car and Driver magazine's annual Ten Best list seven times; Wheels Magazine 's Car of the Year for 1989 and 2005; Sports Car International's "best sports car of the 1990s" and "ten best sports cars of all time"; 2005-2006 Car of the Year Japan; and 2005 Australian Car of the Year.

So you see there "Cookie", this "pos", is the most rewarded sports car ever and your 1 opinion wont change a damn thing.

Now, just some more on the GTR. Call me a hypocrite as i do think the GTR is a great car but to show you fan boys why it ain't all that is fun too. I recently read a great article and the writer said he felt that the E30 M3 was a better drivers car than the GTR as it offered a better driving experience. That's right, a 21 year old car worth 1/8th of the GTR is better than the new hopped up Datsun. ;)



My opinion... Cool factor means ****. Its a driver car relationship and it is based on driving pleasure. Nothing else.

You are an idiot. My car is worth more than 5k, it was not marketed towards women, but specifically toward men wanting a 4dsc(which I think the maxima never quite lived up to), an E30 would not offer a better driving experience than the gtr, and finally, I'm sure everyone can agree with me on the fact that the driving pleasure form the GTR would be tenfold of a miata. I like miata's, just like I like I like m3's. The gtr is the total package.

[man]

LOL lots of nissan fanboys in here

[The Ren]

I wonder if that is Jeramey blackwells car... i know he had one imported...

[umairejaz]

LOL @ nissan fan club gettng butthurt by the dude's comment.

[tron]

hey look, it's the guy with the $5,000 car that was originally marketed toward women (This is fact and not a cheap jab) talking up the $70,000 car and talking down what was voted by a notarized publication as the best sports car of the 1990's.

Oh and lets see that list of Miata accomplishments.

Wiki......

The MX-5 has won over 150 awards in its history, including making Car and Driver magazine's annual Ten Best list seven times; Wheels Magazine 's Car of the Year for 1989 and 2005; Sports Car International's "best sports car of the 1990s" and "ten best sports cars of all time"; 2005-2006 Car of the Year Japan; and 2005 Australian Car of the Year.

So you see there "Cookie", this "pos", is the most rewarded sports car ever and your 1 opinion wont change a damn thing.

Now, just some more on the GTR. Call me a hypocrite as i do think the GTR is a great car but to show you fan boys why it ain't all that is fun too. I recently read a great article and the writer said he felt that the E30 M3 was a better drivers car than the GTR as it offered a better driving experience. That's right, a 21 year old car worth 1/8th of the GTR is better than the new hopped up Datsun. ;)



My opinion... Cool factor means ****. Its a driver car relationship and it is based on driving pleasure. Nothing else.


t-dur....any real "driver" would say this about the e30 m3. the damn thing is just amazing but i still think the gtr is note worthy i mean lets be real its expensive its fast but lacks the fun factor beacuse its not raw but its still a badass car.

[JITB]

oh shoot another GTR thread!! 8pages+!

[Nemesis]

That car demands respect. All the people that have stupid **** to say about it, will probably never be able to afford anything remotely close to it, so whatever.

[Echonova]

Yea it sucks...Maybe I should be cool and buy a civic or a miata! The gtr from factory is a 10 second car, the interior is straight luxury, and it looks great. This is one of the best cars ever produced. PERIOD. How can you say it's not nice when your pos, is a pos... Miata > r35? I think not.For those 10 seconds or less... It's free.

[Echonova]

Haltech GTR ran 11.1 and I doubt it's stock...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU_EUvR4RW4&feature=related

[Julio]

GTR a 10 second car from, factory ? lol
One of the best car ever produced? lol ( i can name 10 better then that)


I rather keep my Vette.

GTR def nice car, power ... but damn, to much hype.

[jumpin800agl]

That is the 3rd i have seen in the Atlanta area. I saw a red one on 75 driving through Henry county last week.

Tha Haltech car was just using their standalone EMS when it ran that 11.1 if I remember correctly.

["ridge"racer]

i never said it wasnt nice, in fact it is VERY nice, just not all that exciting to me, thats all.

am i not allowed to have an opinion?

you've obviously never rode in one, this car takes exciting to another level.

sorry, but this car is a beast, not because of the hype, but because it truly is. for the price you get a supercar, capable of whatever you can throw at it, i hardly think this car will be taken lightly, especially after i walked every car that tried me when i was driving it.

[EJ25RUN]

You are an idiot. My car is worth more than 5k, it was not marketed towards women, but specifically toward men wanting a 4dsc(which I think the maxima never quite lived up to), an E30 would not offer a better driving experience than the gtr, and finally, I'm sure everyone can agree with me on the fact that the driving pleasure form the GTR would be tenfold of a miata. I like miata's, just like I like I like m3's. The gtr is the total package.



not at all, just wanted to point out your pos.... and how stupid you are for not being a follower and making dumb claims about the gt-r... if you could have one you would take it in a heart beat. youre just another retard :goodjob:

My response.....




hey look, it's the guy with the $5,000 car that was originally marketed toward women (This is fact and not a cheap jab) talking up the $70,000 car and talking down what was voted by a notarized publication as the best sports car of the 1990's.


Therefore.....No, i say your the idiot because you cant even read who i was responding to. You got my opinion in the latter part of the post. :rolleyes:



But since you insist on calling me an idiot let me show you why i'm not.

No disrespect but YOU are one of the group of people that sees the GTR's #S, is amazed by them and it all ends there.

I am one of the people that asks, is the car or the driver doing all the work.

Example. I say a car must be a true manual, no electronic aids, and 4wd must be mechanical as much as possible. The GTR has already been called out as a car that simply does all the work for you with all its computers and well, to me at least, that isn't a great driving experience. Im one of the people that believes in the next 5 years this will get worse as cars try to beat the GTR and end up giving you the equivalent of a car in auto-pilot because all you do is steer (with electro-aids), brake (with electro-aids), shift (with electro-aids) , and nothing is left.

Now going back on an earlier comment of yours, you seem to be a street guy and have never visited a road coarse. (i could be wrong, im prolly not) but im under the impression that 70% of all Miata's ever made have turned into SCCA track sluts. No matter if it is an Autocross or an actual td at Road Atlanta, atleast 20 Miatas are always there.

So your comment....


I'm sure everyone can agree with me on the fact that the driving pleasure form the GTR would be tenfold of a miata.
Is wrong.

[Become]

I'm new here....so help me clarify. After reading this am I correct in assuming that there are certain cars we all must bow down to, otherwise be shunned?

Just trying to get my bearings.

[Bruce Leroy]

you've obviously never rode in one, this car takes exciting to another level.

sorry, but this car is a beast, not because of the hype, but because it truly is. for the price you get a supercar, capable of whatever you can throw at it, i hardly think this car will be taken lightly, especially after i walked every car that tried me when i was driving it.


What cars tried you? SRT-4's, civics, vettes, cobras?????? You obviously didn't race anything worth noting. The gtr is NOT the fastest car on the road.

[Bruce Leroy]

I'm new here....so help me clarify. After reading this am I correct in assuming that there are certain cars we all must bow down to, otherwise be shunned?

Just trying to get my bearings.


CORRECT!!!!!

[EJ25RUN]

t-dur....any real "driver" would say this about the e30 m3. the damn thing is just amazing but i still think the gtr is note worthy i mean lets be real its expensive its fast but lacks the fun factor beacuse its not raw but its still a badass car.

Well i am a real driver and i put cars like the pre 996 911s and the original NSX above the current crop of electro speed.

Now you have been on this site long enough so you prolly know that the Nissan people are too easy to let things ruffle them. Remember Kfunk? But i will agree that the GTR is a great car and is a great achievement to Nissan but i'm not gonna listen to people saying it is the greatest thing ever. Especially if they don't understand what makes a drivers car.

["ridge"racer]

EJ25run, i will say that you are very accurate when you say the car drives itself, and does all the work for you, so to speak. however, with that in mind and having push a gtr to the limits personally, i still havent hade an experience like that in my life. I could only focus on the speed and how the gtr ate the corners for breakfast, stopped like it was never moving and accelerated with zero effort. I would be afraid of tracking this car as i dont think i have the skill to control it, even while its doing the work. but nonetheless good point.

[EJ25RUN]

oh shoot another GTR thread!! 8pages+!

And feelings will get hurt. :lmfao:


you've obviously never rode in one, this car takes exciting to another level.

sorry, but this car is a beast, not because of the hype, but because it truly is. for the price you get a supercar, capable of whatever you can throw at it, i hardly think this car will be taken lightly, especially after i walked every car that tried me when i was driving it.

Im really tired of the people that think a cars overall performance is narrowed down to highway pulls. :rolleyes:

Or is this a road coarse?????? :eek: :eek:



I'm new here....so help me clarify. After reading this am I correct in assuming that there are certain cars we all must bow down to, otherwise be shunned?

Just trying to get my bearings.

GTR is not one of them.

Most of those cars were made pre 1980 with a few exceptions.

Example. Porsche 917

["ridge"racer]

What cars tried you? SRT-4's, civics, vettes, cobras?????? You obviously didn't race anything worth noting. The gtr is NOT the fastest car on the road.

actually it was just one car that tried me, a honda fit, but it was the fit sport.

j/k

all bs aside, two cars, a Z06 and a g35, albeit neither of the two stood a chance, the z06 hung with me for a second or two. i am by no means a skilled or experienced driver, i just put the pedal to the floor and pulled on the guy.

[Logan]

Aw the nissan owners got all butt-hurt because someone wasn't excited to see a GTR....:gay:

["ridge"racer]

Im really tired of the people that think a cars overall performance is narrowed down to highway pulls. :rolleyes:

Or is this a road coarse??????

highway pulls? are you kidding me? thats where the car is the WEAKEST, you know as well as i do this is a track car, and im a honda guy.

Im not a nissan fan, i like my hondas and when it comes to hp i love street rods more than anything, but im not gonna bash the gtr when i know for a fact that from the factory it will own most cars, and thats without tuning, just imagine.

[EJ25RUN]

highway pulls? are you kidding me? thats where the car is the WEAKEST, you know as well as i do this is a track car, and im a honda guy.

Im not a nissan fan, i like my hondas and when it comes to hp i love street rods more than anything, but im not gonna bash the gtr when i know for a fact that from the factory it will own most cars, and thats without tuning, just imagine.

No i'm not kidding you. Just look at the kills forum. :rolleyes:

This vid gives a good demo where a GTR falls short. Watch at 4:20 min. :goodjob:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZVHzBRc15A&fmt=18

["ridge"racer]

No i'm not kidding you. Just look at the kills forum. :rolleyes:

This vid gives a good demo where a GTR falls short. Watch at 4:20 min. :goodjob:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZVHzBRc15A&fmt=18


are you trying to impress me with the way the gt-r performed in that video? im confused because it seemed to do pretty damn good for a car priced similiar to an nsx.

[jdmskate-R]

thats my car, please take pics down.:ninja:

[EJ25RUN]

are you trying to impress me with the way the gt-r performed in that video? im confused because it seemed to do pretty damn good for a car priced similiar to an nsx.

Actually it was more on how the GTR weight hurts it. Yes the NSX never was great on price but compare how it tackles the coarse despite being longer than the GTR. But yes, overall, GTR did well.

["ridge"racer]

Actually it was more on how the GTR weight hurts it. Yes the NSX never was great on price but compare how it tackles the coarse despite being longer than the GTR. But yes, overall, GTR did well.

I did see that, and exactly what you are talking about when it comes to weight. that is one thing i would say is its downfall, but nonetheless, a performer.

oh, and btw im staring at two that came off the truck a few minutes ago, still in the plastic, man these cars are sex.

[Thighs]

LOL look at what i started.

im gonna have to agree with ej25 in saying that mechanicals > electronics. the gtr drives itself. what is fun about that?

the cars that stand out the most to me are the ones where driver skill actually matters. i like actually driving my cars, not going or a disneyland ride.

[Maniacc]

After reading this thread, I can't believe how many haters this place is crawling with. I personally think the new GT-R looks terrible, but I do like it's rims and front lip. Yet it's an awesome car all around. No matter what people throw at it, you can't say it's a piece of metal that should be thrown in the junkyard. Even if some of you say it's not that big of a deal and what-not, you'll jump in the car in a heart beat if the driver asked you if you wanted a ride.

NissanTuner, nice picture man. I'm sure it looks insane in person.

[Thighs]

After reading this thread, I can't believe how many haters this place is crawling with. I personally think the new GT-R looks terrible, but I do like it's rims and front lip. Yet it's an awesome car all around. No matter what people throw at it, you can't say it's a piece of metal that should be thrown in the junkyard. Even if some of you say it's not that big of a deal and what-not, you'll jump in the car in a heart beat if the driver asked you if you wanted a ride.

NissanTuner, nice picture man. I'm sure it looks insane in person.

nobody said it was a hunk of metal that belongs in a junkyard...? :thinking: saying that it doesnt really excite me isnt an insult to the car at all, its my opinion. and no ****, i would take a ride in it. i would take a ride in ALOT of cars, and theres not many i would say no to.

and youre contradicting yourself by saying its ugly but then saying it probably looks insane in person. so wtf are you trying to say?

[jdmskate-R]

everyone wants you to be suckin the gtrs ****, but u dont realy like it. so they are on your nuts because you don't feel the same way about it that they do. i personally think its a beautiful piece of machinery.

[Maniacc]

nobody said it was a hunk of metal that belongs in a junkyard...? :thinking: saying that it doesnt really excite me isnt an insult to the car at all, its my opinion. and no ****, i would take a ride in it. i would take a ride in ALOT of cars, and theres not many i would say no to.

and youre contradicting yourself by saying its ugly but then saying it probably looks insane in person. so wtf are you trying to say?
Who the hell was talking to you? Like so many cars, they always end up looking better in person then they do in pictures which is why I said 'I'm sure it looks insane in person.' I don't know what you've said in this thread nor do I desire to know.

[Thighs]

everyone wants you to be suckin the gtrs ****, but u dont realy like it. so they are on your nuts because you don't feel the same way about it that they do. i personally think its a beautiful piece of machinery.

basically. but it gives me an opportunity to piss some hamburger humpers off lol.

[Thighs]

Who the hell was talking to you? Like so many cars, they always end up looking better in person then they do in pictures which is why I said 'I'm sure it looks insane in person.' I don't know what you've said in this thread nor do I desire to know.

so wait, you didnt really read the thread? but you said you did in your previous post? :???:

you sure do contradict youself alot.

["ridge"racer]

LOL look at what i started.

im gonna have to agree with ej25 in saying that mechanicals > electronics. the gtr drives itself. what is fun about that?

the cars that stand out the most to me are the ones where driver skill actually matters. i like actually driving my cars, not going or a disneyland ride.

coming from someone who has not driven a gt-r, please bro, you mean to tell me that your car would be more fun to drive? your a damn retard if you say yes. the gt-r still utilizes driver control and will not be forgiving if you dont know what you are doing.

I wonder if technological advances have anything to do with the gt-r's design.
pic your favorite vehicle and in 5 years it will do all the work for you too. who the phuck cares if its not a manual, who cares if the suspension damping is adjustable at the flick of a switch. the car is badass, and those who say otherwise are ignorant. if the car sucked, all the reviews would say so.

Here is what i love about driving, speed,cornering, and braking. how i achieve those is pretty phucking irrelevant.

[Maniacc]

so wait, you didnt really read the thread? but you said you did in your previous post? :???:

you sure do contradict youself alot.
I guess I should've said, 'After browsing through it,' huh? I also only read some posts from EJ25RUN, who seems to be the only person in this thread with any form of intellect. Your posts consist of nothing but babble. You came at me like I was personally attacking your opinion. You also said something like, 'Look what I started' like we all owe you for the spark that ignited this thread into another, who hates and who likes the new GT-R thread.

[Thighs]

I wonder if technological advances have anything to do with the gt-r's design.
pic your favorite vehicle and in 5 years it will do all the work for you too. who the phuck cares if its not a manual, who cares if the suspension damping is adjustable at the flick of a switch. the car is badass, and those who say otherwise are ignorant. if the car sucked, all the reviews would say so.

Here is what i love about driving, speed,cornering, and braking. how i achieve those is pretty phucking irrelevant.

i care if its a manual and if it has adjustable suspension, is that a problem?

it is a badass car and it is very fast, but i have my own opinion about it and dont give half a **** about what the reviews say.

[Thighs]

I guess I should've said, 'After browsing through it,' huh? You came at me like I was personally attacking your opinion. You also said something like, 'Look what I started' like we all owe you for the spark that ignited this thread into another, who hates and who likes the new GT-R thread.

well if i came off that way im sorry, but nothing i said was meant offensively in any manner. and i was just LOLing at the fact that one comment saying that i dont care much for the gtr sparked this whole huge ass b!tchfest, its kinda funny to me.

[wantboost]

here you go jesse from the japanese service manual:
http://blogs.cobbtuning.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/r35_manual4.JPG

["ridge"racer]

i care if its a manual and if it has adjustable suspension, is that a problem?

it is a badass car and it is very fast, but i have my own opinion about it and dont give half a **** about what the reviews say.

please enlighten me on how your car, with its suspension, is sitting right now.
what your "track settings" are, and what manufacturer makes your suspension.


also, how much hp do you need before holding on to the steering wheel becomes more important than shifting?

[wantboost]

http://techdigest.tv/fanboy-country.jpg

["ridge"racer]

wait till you see those damn bats!

[Thighs]

please enlighten me on how your car, with its suspension, is sitting right now.
what your "track settings" are, and what manufacturer makes your suspension.


also, how much hp do you need before shifting becomes more important than holding on to the steering wheel?

LOL who said anything about my car? i dont have adjustable suspension, i have eibach lowering springs and kyb shocks that came with the car. but im working on that. hows your car?

and i dont think your second statement is very applicable, considering LOTS of race cars with WAY more power than the r35 are manuals. actually, the only time ive seen an automatic race car was a drag car or this one lexus that ran in grand am for a while. but they still used the tiptronic system...

[Thighs]

lolz paul youre funny

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to wantboost again.

hows the hood? derek said he called me like 500 times but my phone has eben being stupid lately and not ringing or showing missed calls.

[EJ25RUN]

who the phuck cares if its not a manual, who cares if the suspension damping is adjustable at the flick of a switch. .

he cares....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SvnIZVA-PKM/RecdYUKcFhI/AAAAAAAAAMQ/HKUgXrH-kqM/s1600/jeremy_clarkson.jpg



also, how much hp do you need before holding on to the steering wheel becomes more important than shifting?

Porsche 917/30 - 1500BHP in qualifying trim - Manual
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Porsche_917-30_CanAm_Spyder_cockpit.jpg/800px-Porsche_917-30_CanAm_Spyder_cockpit.jpg

Brabaham BT52 - 1350BHP in qualifing trim - Manual

Sauber MB C11 - 950bhp - Manual

Road Cars -

Faster than Veyron 9FF GT9 - 987BHP - Manual
http://images.europeancarweb.com/features/epcp_0807_03_z+2008_9ff_gt9+interior_view.jpg

Koeniggsegg CCXR - 1018 BHP - Manual
http://autoreview.belproject.com/media/1/20070303-koenigsegg-ccxr-interior.jpg


Am i stressing enough why an H box is important?

["ridge"racer]

ok, so its fairy tail time.

im gonna give you a nismo Z
Or, at your discretion, im gonna give you a gt-r

now, if you tell me you would take the nismo because its more "mechanical" then i will just do you a favor and never take you serious again.

As for my car i just sold, the Si, i had buddy club 15-way adjustable coilovers, with 9/10k springs at a progressive rate. camber correction, yada yada yada. settings were 0 deg toe in the front/-1 rear camber -1.2 front -.8 rear (car has pronounced understeer and this is the only way to combat that) rear shocks 9 clicks in/ front struts 4 clicks in.

now, that being said the car was a six speed. i loved driving it, and it handled great! but im sorry, the ride was nothing, and i do meen nothing like a gt-r.

[JITB]

lol 4 pages... almost there... a gtr picture is worth atleast 8 pages!

[EJ25RUN]

ok, so its fairy tail time.

im gonna give you a nismo Z
Or, at your discretion, im gonna give you a gt-r

now, if you tell me you would take the nismo because its more "mechanical" then i will just do you a favor and never take you serious again.

As for my car i just sold, the Si, i had buddy club 15-way adjustable coilovers, with 9/10k springs at a progressive rate. camber correction, yada yada yada. settings were 0 deg toe in the front/-1 rear camber -1.2 front -.8 rear (car has pronounced understeer and this is the only way to combat that) rear shocks 9 clicks in/ front struts 4 clicks in.

now, that being said the car was a six speed. i loved driving it, and it handled great! but im sorry, the ride was nothing, and i do meen nothing like a gt-r.

I wouldn't take the Z for many other reasons besides the transmission. And what you just brought up is matter of personal preference. Something I decide on.

Here's a better comparo to twist the brain. A good shape R34 GT-R or a R35.

I would have the R34 for all of the above factors...... :yes:

So are we still on speaking terms?


lol 4 pages... almost there... a gtr picture is worth atleast 8 pages!

You don't get credit for it though. You are more/less a statistician.

[Thighs]

ok, so its fairy tail time.

im gonna give you a nismo Z
Or, at your discretion, im gonna give you a gt-r

now, if you tell me you would take the nismo because its more "mechanical" then i will just do you a favor and never take you serious again.

As for my car i just sold, the Si, i had buddy club 15-way adjustable coilovers, with 9/10k springs at a progressive rate. camber correction, yada yada yada. settings were 0 deg toe in the front/-1 rear camber -1.2 front -.8 rear (car has pronounced understeer and this is the only way to combat that) rear shocks 9 clicks in/ front struts 4 clicks in.

now, that being said the car was a six speed. i loved driving it, and it handled great! but im sorry, the ride was nothing, and i do meen nothing like a gt-r.

well, thinking realistically, i would probably take the gtr, sell it, and buy something different. i just dont really like the car all that much. sorry.


thats a pretty good setup on the Si as far as i can tell. its good to know that im not arguing with a moron lol. did you track/autocross it?

[kouki]

lol @ the moron jesse....

["ridge"racer]

well, thinking realistically, i would probably take the gtr, sell it, and buy something different. i just dont really like the car all that much. sorry.


thats a pretty good setup on the Si as far as i can tell. its good to know that im not arguing with a moron lol. did you track/autocross it?

well, to be honest, no, i never tracked the car once! :no: I just enjoy making a car capable of more than it was when i bought it. i think im a good driver, and i pushed the Si to its limits in the turns but i wish i would have tracked it at least once. but thats ok, im living vicariously through my buddy who does track his supercharged Si, lol

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u257/gangstar1219/DSC_0010.gif

[JITB]

You don't get credit for it though. You are more/less a statistician.



my fingers wont allow me to insert myself into another GTR discussion..

[EJ25RUN]

lol @ the moron jesse....

your quickly becoming vs than Street Speed was. And he was pitiful.


my fingers wont allow me to insert myself into another GTR discussion..

its been a while since i really let people know what i think so ill hang in this one.

["ridge"racer]

I wouldn't take the Z for many other reasons besides the transmission. And what you just brought up is matter of personal preference. Something I decide on.

Here's a better comparo to twist the brain. A good shape R34 GT-R or a R35.

I would have the R34 for all of the above factors...... :yes:

So are we still on speaking terms?

good contrast my friend, point taken.

[kouki]

your quickly becoming vs than Street Speed was. And he was pitiful.

:thinking: that made no sense..... "you're* quickly becoming worse than street speed was. And he was pitiful." :goodjob:

[EJ25RUN]

:thinking: that made no sense..... "you're* quickly becoming worse than street speed was. And he was pitiful." :goodjob:

I'll just let you know that i graduated with honors so your grammar assistance isn't necessary.

["ridge"racer]

:thinking: that made no sense..... "you're* quickly becoming worse than street speed was. And he was pitiful." :goodjob:

taking shots at grammar is like spitting out the infamous last words "gas mileage advantage" in a fight between honda and whatever other car there is.

lameness.

[RL...]

EJRUN and Jesse are idiots, there's no sense trying to convince someone 2+2=4 when he believes it's 9. Some people are too dumb to be able to recognize a great car when they see it. OF course the GTR isn't the best car out there, but it is a refined automobile that is the WHOLE package in stock form. And you shouldn't talk of how the car drives itself when you've never drove it noob. But yes, I believe a 6-speed option would've been nice...

["ridge"racer]

EJRUN and Jesse are idiots, there's no sense trying to convince someone 2+2=4 when he believes it's 9. Some people are too dumb to be able to recognize a great car when they see it. OF course the GTR isn't the best car out there, but it is a refined automobile that is the WHOLE package in stock form. And you shouldn't talk of how the car drives itself when you've never drove it noob. But yes, I believe a 6-speed option would've been nice...

I have driven it, in fact i made a thread about it. well, not really about driving it, but i did beat the isht out of it for a few hours, pure unadulterated sex if i may say so.

[JITB]

My thing is the Skyline GTR, has ALWAYS! been ahead of its time. and has ALWAYS had crazy gadgets. Along with almost 90% of japanese cars. And this old vs. new argument is always the same.. the old is always better to some. When the numbers tell a different story.

[EJ25RUN]

EJRUN and Jesse are idiots, there's no sense trying to convince someone 2+2=4 when he believes it's 9. Some people are too dumb to be able to recognize a great car when they see it. OF course the GTR isn't the best car out there, but it is a refined automobile that is the WHOLE package in stock form. And you shouldn't talk of how the car drives itself when you've never drove it noob. But yes, I believe a 6-speed option would've been nice...

Look Maximus......if your gonna call me an idiot.....AGAIN.

Lets see how you did this time. I'll break it down for you.

You......



Some people are too dumb to be able to recognize a great car when they see it.

My earlier response.



But i will agree that the GTR is a great car and is a great achievement to Nissan but i'm not gonna listen to people saying it is the greatest thing ever. Especially if they don't understand what makes a drivers car.

You....



But yes, I believe a 6-speed option would've been nice...

My earlier response.



Am i stressing enough why an H box is important?

You do realize you basically repeated the words i already said.

Your so proud right now that you just cant agree to disagree. I been on this site a long time and more than a few people know i'm reasonable and never talk nonsense. If you like th GTR ......great.....go get it. Me.....not so much.
If you cant sleep at night cause everyone doesn't agree with what you have to say, too bad man.

[wantboost]

gtr:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImDh5X6lGVQ

a little more driver involvement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6Thomd4BQg&feature=related

[EJ25RUN]

gtr:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImDh5X6lGVQ

a little more driver involvement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6Thomd4BQg&feature=related

I own an original copy of a 1987 Road and Track "The Worlds Fastest Cars" where the RUF Yellow Bird became the worlds fastest car with a top speed of 211 MPH in 1987!!! There are only 29 original Yellow Birds that were ever made.

http://i13.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/ab/4d/934d_1.JPG

[alpine_aw11]

I'll never understand why people can't accept that some people aren't going to like certain cars. Retards.

[JITB]

I'll never understand why people can't accept that some people aren't going to like certain cars. Retards.


its not the opinion its the reasoning behind it that people dont agree with..

["ridge"racer]

I'll never understand why people can't accept that some people aren't going to like certain cars. Retards.

if you just say the gt-r is ugly, then that is a respectable perspective, one that everyone is entitled to, however, to not respect a car of that caliber while being savvy about cars is what i dont understand.

[SleeperWRX]

:gay:

its not that big of a deal.

Only if it was miata :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[Humphrizzle]

http://a293.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/25/l_aca6916ecc9c214f250332d8176953fc.jpg


Looks like that ass munch can't park or doesn't care.

[EJ25RUN]

if you just say the gt-r is ugly, then that is a respectable perspective, one that everyone is entitled to, however, to not respect a car of that caliber while being savvy about cars is what i dont understand.

You respect a car for different reasons though.

I respect a Porsche 911 for never changing the need to be a drivers car and stick with that at all costs. It is one of the reasons it took this long for Porsche to shove a dual clutch gearbox in the 911 even though they began using said system in the 1980's 962 racer.

Porsche made this mistake of over technologically revolutionizing a car with the 959. A car that 20 years later was still voted as the best Porsche of all time ahead of the 1973 911 RS, Carrera GT, 550 Spyder and any other Porsche street car ever made. But there was a problem. In its time the 959 was so advanced that the driver wasn't as "necessary" or "involved" as he once was. You basically felt like a passenger letting the 959 show you how amazing it is.

This is what i see in the GTR. A GREAT GREAT car that was forced to give up the thrill in order to be as fast as possible. Well, they did it. They gave the chance for an average person to drive like a talent even if they lack it.

You gotta look at cars full circle. That's how i do it.


P.S., those Nurburgring lap times people say them like they can do it. :rolleyes:

Yes 7:29 is phenomenal BUT.....it was ex F1 driver Toshio Suzuki that got those times. So he has a very tall talent barrier. And it is safe to say a high talent can get any car to do extraordinary things. I say that a regular driver. One with track experience but not F1 grade can prolly swing that car around in 7:35-7:36.

["ridge"racer]

You respect a car for different reasons though.

I respect a Porsche 911 for never changing the need to be a drivers car and stick with that at all costs. It is one of the reasons it took this long for Porsche to shove a dual clutch gearbox in the 911 even though they began using said system in the 1980's 962 racer.

Porsche made this mistake of over technologically revolutionizing a car with the 959. A car that 20 years later was still voted as the best Porsche of all time ahead of the 1973 911 RS, Carrera GT, 550 Spyder and any other Porsche street car ever made. But there was a problem. In its time the 959 was so advanced that the driver wasn't as "necessary" or "involved" as he once was. You basically felt like a passenger letting the 959 show you how amazing it is.

This is what i see in the GTR. A GREAT GREAT car that was forced to give up the thrill in order to be as fast as possible. Well, they did it. They gave the chance for an average person to drive like a talent even if they lack it.

You gotta look at cars full circle. That's how i do it.


P.S., those Nurburgring lap times people say them like they can do it. :rolleyes:

Yes 7:29 is phenomenal BUT.....it was ex F1 driver Toshio Suzuki that got those times. So he has a very tall talent barrier. And it is safe to say a high talent can get any car to do extraordinary things. I say that a regular driver. One with track experience but not F1 grade can prolly swing that car around in 7:35-7:36.

I understand what you are saying man, i guess my standpoint is coming from inexperience, and never having any track experience with cars of that caliber. I just think that a fast car is a fast car, and all the r&d nissan put in the gtr is there for a reason, that being said, if designing cars and making them easier to drive while still breaking records is what the future holds, then neither you, nor myself can change that. What happens when porche makes a supercar only available in auto that sets a new record? what would be your view then? see my point? we evolve things to make our lives easier, something nissan showed us. we cant stop change and one day we may look back and say, "man, i cant believe people had to change the gears themselves and activate the clutch with their feet!"

In the end there is only the win.

[alpine_aw11]

if you just say the gt-r is ugly, then that is a respectable perspective, one that everyone is entitled to, however, to not respect a car of that caliber while being savvy about cars is what i dont understand.

True, but some people(including me) think it's overrated. I do love it and all, but there's too many fanboys ruining it who not only know nothing about it or cars in general, they're willing to dish out personal and stupid insults to anyone who doesn't want to beat off everytime they see one. People just need to understand there are better cars out there, and the GTR is not a driving man's vehicle. It was designed to make anyone look good, and while it's performance is pretty remarkable for the price, true drivers do recognize that the GTR takes away the real driving experience.

["ridge"racer]

trust me, if im a fanboy, then im a honda fanboy, not nissan. So i can talk about the gtr all day, in the end, i dont really care for nissan. but i do know one thing, honda has nothing to compete with the gtr right now.

[EJ25RUN]

I just think that a fast car is a fast car, and all the r&d nissan put in the gtr is there for a reason, that being said, if designing cars and making them easier to drive while still breaking records is what the future holds, then neither you, nor myself can change that.

Of coarse, but there are little victories. The M5 getting a manual from consumer demand years back was one.



What happens when porsche makes a supercar only available in auto that sets a new record?

Little off topic but in the early 90's, Porsche is credited with making Automatics fun when they began using an Auto that lets you go out of D and go up and down. One of the first tiptronic transmissions.

But back to Supercars, Porsche is working on the Carrera GT replacement and i'll myself agree that this time, it's all about breaking records. All though i doubt it will be a true Automatic, prolly a development of the PDK boxs that are being put in 911s now.





In the end there is only the win.

And there you hit it. Once you hit the race track, winning at all cost is the only way.

Paddle Shifters in 1989, Wings in 1967, Ceramic brakes in 1977, 4wd in 1979. All these things were thought of as being to heavy, fragile, or unproven, but today, in their respective field, it is a must.

Today, Formula 1 aerodynamicists are hated because even though the cars can corner at ungodly speeds, the racing is gone. 2008 is a great year in that traction control has finally been banned with the use of a standardized ECU.

["ridge"racer]

All valid, informative and intelligent responses. thanks!

[Bruce Leroy]

All you have to do is watch the first 10 seconds of this video..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXuYftXg2-c

Notice how the gtr is sliding wide and understeering as its going through the turn... Then it magically grips, and goes around the corner.
Then watch the rx7's driver and how many steering imputs he has to make compare to the gtr drver.
The rx7 is much more involving, and at the end of the day probablly more rewarding to drive than the gtr.
Which one you choose is up to you tho.

[stillaneon]

Your're right as far as I could've replied with a more constructive reply, but to me, it's all about the cool/fun factor!

So you bought a maxima?

[JITB]

All you have to do is watch the first 10 seconds of this video..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXuYftXg2-c

Notice how the gtr is sliding wide and understeering as its going through the turn... Then it magically grips, and goes around the corner.
Then watch the rx7's driver and how many steering imputs he has to make compare to the gtr drver.
The rx7 is much more involving, and at the end of the day probablly more rewarding to drive than the gtr.
Which one you choose is up to you tho.


But the rx7 probrably has alot more pwer than the r35, and weighs half as much. And is a beast to drive.

the Gtr sure did sound great!.. :D

[Elbow]

Yea it sucks...Maybe I should be cool and buy a civic or a miata! The gtr from factory is a 10 second car, the interior is straight luxury, and it looks great. This is one of the best cars ever produced. PERIOD. How can you say it's not nice when your pos, is a pos... Miata > r35? I think not.

I'd rather have a Miata...

GTR FTMFL

[Humphrizzle]

i do not like the styling of the new GTR. I think it's boring, plastic, and square.

I do not care about power, so a 10 second car to me means low gas mileage.

[Bruce Leroy]

I'm still trying to fighre out where 10 sec 1/4 mile came from? Maybe mid 11's

[Humphrizzle]

that's what the nissan guy said it was

[Bruce Leroy]

interesting...

[Elbow]

He lied

[Nerdsrock22]

I do not care about power, so a 10 second car to me means low gas mileage.

:thinking:

Ok Mom.

["ridge"racer]

But the rx7 probrably has alot more pwer than the r35, and weighs half as much. And is a beast to drive.

the Gtr sure did sound great!.. :D

Thats a fully built rx7, tuned for that track specifically. i have that video.

[Elbow]

You are an idiot. My car is worth more than 5k, it was not marketed towards women, but specifically toward men wanting a 4dsc(which I think the maxima never quite lived up to), an E30 would not offer a better driving experience than the gtr, and finally, I'm sure everyone can agree with me on the fact that the driving pleasure form the GTR would be tenfold of a miata. I like miata's, just like I like I like m3's. The gtr is the total package.

LOL ummm no. Go drive a new GTR AND a E30 M3 and tell us how you feel. Unless you suck at driving entirely you will like the M3 more. The GTR takes no talent to be quick.

[EJ25RUN]

All you have to do is watch the first 10 seconds of this video..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXuYftXg2-c

Notice how the gtr is sliding wide and understeering as its going through the turn... Then it magically grips, and goes around the corner.
Then watch the rx7's driver and how many steering imputs he has to make compare to the gtr drver.
The rx7 is much more involving, and at the end of the day probablly more rewarding to drive than the gtr.
Which one you choose is up to you tho.

But the GTR is also 4WD and just like in a front wheel drive car when you apply power. It will not magically get grip but the load being put on the front tires straightening you.


LOL ummm no. Go drive a new GTR AND a E30 M3 and tell us how you feel. Unless you suck at driving entirely you will like the M3 more. The GTR takes no talent to be quick.

and you expect an honest answer.....COOMMMONN :lmfao:

[Elbow]

Now going back on an earlier comment of yours, you seem to be a street guy and have never visited a road coarse. (i could be wrong, im prolly not) but im under the impression that 70% of all Miata's ever made have turned into SCCA track sluts. No matter if it is an Autocross or an actual td at Road Atlanta, atleast 20 Miatas are always there.

So your comment....

Is wrong.

AT VERY LEAST....if the rest of the field crashed in practice :goodjob:

[Humphrizzle]

:thinking:

Ok Mom.


i've driven fast cars, and this automatic G35 doesn't interest me.

If I were to spend 80k-100k dollars on a car, I would rather it look different than a g35 with round tail lights.

I'd just as soon buy 20 sets of wheels and a safe storage area before I bought a "Skyline"

[Bruce Leroy]

But the GTR is also 4WD and just like in a front wheel drive car when you apply power. It will grip, not magically it's the load being put on the front tires straightening you.


its not physics... physics does not exist.

[JITB]

i do not like the styling of the new GTR. I think it's boring, plastic, and square.

I do not care about power, so a 10 second car to me means low gas mileage.

stock gtr ran like a 11.7? or something....

if any GTR is shaped like a square it would be the r34...lol
http://www.japanautoauctions.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/GTRs.jpg

[EJ25RUN]

its not physics... physics does not exist.

huh?



http://www.japanautoauctions.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/GTRs.jpg
One of those needs Jenny Craig.

[Nerdsrock22]

i've driven fast cars, and this automatic G35 doesn't interest me.

If I were to spend 80k-100k dollars on a car, I would rather it look different than a g35 with round tail lights.

I'd just as soon buy 20 sets of wheels and a safe storage area before I bought a "Skyline"

:blah:

:D

[Humphrizzle]

haha.. you'd do the same damn thing!

[Nerdsrock22]

For 100k I'd take a Ridgeline for swampin', a Fit for rompin', and an NSX for stompin'.


But the GTR is still an amazing car.

[Humphrizzle]

new NSX is worse than the new GTR..


V10 in a honda... just stupid to me.

[wantboost]

huh?


One of those needs Jenny Craig.
LOLOL reps given.

[Bruce Leroy]

huh?
^^
:crazy:


http://jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/03/NissanGTR_NSX.jpg

http://jalopnik.com/assets/images/gallery/12/2008/03/medium_2316430359_0cc19c727d_o.jpg

[wantboost]

new NSX is worse than the new GTR..


V10 in a honda... just stupid to me.
but v8's are just fine :D
http://tanetane92.web.infoseek.co.jp/007321.jpg

[JITB]

new NSX is worse than the new GTR..


V10 in a honda... just stupid to me.


:rolleyes: u want the ole C32a back in it?

[EJ25RUN]

^^
:crazy:


according to your explanation.....White cars don't require physics? :???:

[Elbow]

:rolleyes: u want the ole C32a back in it?

Yeah what the hell is wrong with a V10?

LOL @ the pics of the Skylines the R35 IS HUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

[Nerdsrock22]

V10 in a honda... just stupid to me.

Yeah I guess you are right, they don't know anything about that.

http://homepage.mac.com/mlv/iblog/yoshishin/C356790966/E20060313153338/Media/01_b.jpg

[JITB]

Yeah what the hell is wrong with a V10?

LOL @ the pics of the Skylines the R35 IS HUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.


lol alot of japanese owners are complaining that its too wide for the regular streets...lol but that has been true with alot of new cars in overcrowded cities..

[Elbow]

lol alot of japanese owners are complaining that its too wide for the regular streets...lol but that has been true with alot of new cars in overcrowded cities..

lolol

[Ran]

Wow, this thread is practically WL material.

[Humphrizzle]

C32 is much better than V10

[DUBSf22c]

Yea it sucks...Maybe I should be cool and buy a civic or a miata! The gtr from factory is a 10 second car, the interior is straight luxury, and it looks great. This is one of the best cars ever produced. PERIOD. How can you say it's not nice when your pos, is a pos... Miata > r35? I think not.

:thinking:fanboi ¿¿??:thinking:

[Elbow]

C32 is much better than V10

:???: Explain that one....

[Humphrizzle]

Nothing to explain.. Just dislike the idea of a new v10 motor in a production car. Just looks stupid, I like the Mid engine in the former NSX, The car just looked 10000 times better before.

I dont like the new one.. just like i dont like the new GTR. Looks stupid to me.

["ridge"racer]

I hear the new nsx will be faster than the gtr, track wise. that should be interesting.

[EJ25RUN]

new NSX is worse than the new GTR..
V10 in a honda... just stupid to me.

You see, you say that.....but it's just not quite right to Honda's history. You see Honda has always been about efficiency. And the Honda system was make more with less.

That does not mean more with less cylinders. NO.....More with less displacement. Here's what i'm on about.

60's - the 1.5 liter limit exist in Formula 1.

So what do you do?

You make a 1.5 liter V12.....An engine which many say is what Lamborghini used to make their great V12.

http://www.cimanet.co.uk/realhondaf1/images/engines/1964RA271E.jpeg

It gets even more extreme in motorcycle racing.

So the 500cc championship for grand prix bikes is set at 500cc....Obviously.
And all the winning bikes are two strokes but you want to stike with a 4 stroke. And there is a limit of only 4 cylinders.

So what do you do?

You make a 4 cylinder with oval pistons, 8 valves per cylinder and 32 vales overall.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Ovalpiston.jpg/800px-Ovalpiston.jpg

[Humphrizzle]

http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/article/632/632890/new-nsx--20050712101937272.jpg
vs
http://www.edmunds.com/media/reviews/top10/04.cars.best.residual/04.acura.nsx.500.jpg

I'd rather the classic

[Elbow]

You see, you say that.....but not it's just not quite right to Honda's history. You see Honda has always been about efficiency. And the Honda system was make more with less.

That does not mean more with less cylinders. NO.....More with less displacement. Here's what i'm on about.

60's - the 1.5 liter limit exist in Formula 1.

So what do you do?

You make a 1.5 liter V12.....An engine which many say is what Lamborghini used to make their great V12.

http://www.cimanet.co.uk/realhondaf1/images/engines/1964RA271E.jpeg

It gets even more extreme in motorcycle racing.

So the 500cc championship for grand prix bikes is set at 500cc....Obviously.
And all the winning bikes are two strokes but you want to stike with a 4 stroke. And there is a limit of only 4 cylinders.

So what do you do?

You make a 4 cylinder with oval pistons, 8 valves per cylinder and 32 vales overall.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Ovalpiston.jpg/800px-Ovalpiston.jpg

Do you have a HUGE photo database organized and all ready for quick photo detailed replies? lol

[JITB]

Nothing to explain.. Just dislike the idea of a new v10 motor in a production car. Just looks stupid, I like the Mid engine in the former NSX, The car just looked 10000 times better before.

I dont like the new one.. just like i dont like the new GTR. Looks stupid to me.

SHOW ME WHAT THE NEW NSX LOOKS LIKE SON!

[EJ25RUN]

http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/article/632/632890/new-nsx--20050712101937272.jpg
vs
http://www.edmunds.com/media/reviews/top10/04.cars.best.residual/04.acura.nsx.500.jpg

I'd rather the classic

look smart the HSC car was cancelled 4 years ago because honda knew it was not to sell.

You need to do your homework before you come in here and talk like you know something. I mean really???? A C32 vs a highly efficient v10 or v8? WEhat's wrong with you?

[Nerdsrock22]

http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/article/632/632890/new-nsx--20050712101937272.jpg


not to be picky, but thats the concept from like 5 years ago.

http://www.autotunerzone.com/images/2008-acura-nsx-concept-1.jpg

this would be the appropriate model to hate on.

[Humphrizzle]

I do agree with you, Honda has always been great at being efficient, but with a V10 coming as a production model, while never having a production model V8.

What is the displacement for the new NSX, anyway?

[Elbow]

look smart the hdc car was cancelled 4 years ago because honda knew it was not to sell.

You need to do your homework before you come in here and talk like you know something. I mean really???? A C32 vs a highly efficient v10 or v8? WEhat's wrong with you?

Owned

[JITB]

look smart the hdc car was cancelled 4 years ago because honda knew it was not to sell.

You need to do your homework before you come in here and talk like you know something. I mean really???? A C32 vs a highly efficient v10 or v8? WEhat's wrong with you?


the HDC was in Gran Turismo 3... :lmfao:

[SandM]

now, i definately agree with JITB that the skylines have always been ahead of the curve. i also agree that the new gtr is a very quick car. however, i think the new gtr is overrated. i got the same reaction from the evo guys when i trash talked the evo X. i don't like the fact that car companies are starting to take away the driver connection with the car.
i specifically bought an AP1 because I wanted the stay with the throttle cable system and have good tunability. granted, i want to have a great lap time, i would rather have a slightly slower lap time and enjoy every minute knowing i made the car perform the way it did than to win with computers guiding my way.

[Humphrizzle]

all concepts i see are ugly.

so is the supposed powerplant.


Honda has already sworn to never make a production V8. Why? but they blow by it and continue for a production V10.

I do my homework. I research everything I preach.

[JITB]

I do agree with you, Honda has always been great at being efficient, but with a V10 coming as a production model, while never having a production model V8.

What is the displacement for the new NSX, anyway?


all concepts i see are ugly.

so is the supposed powerplant.


Honda has already sworn to never make a production V8. Why? but they blow by it and continue for a production V10.

I do my homework. I research everything I preach.


"Honda is rumored to be testing a new aluminum-block V-8 in the Ridgeline pickup truck. The V-8 is in the 4.2- to 4.4-liter range, with VTEC and cylinder shutoff, and is slated to appear first the next Acura RL, a 2011 model launching in 2010. Honda also is adding the engine to the next-generation Ridgeline, slated for 2011 as a 2012 model. The exact configuration is unknown, but given the displacement, it's not based on the 60-degree 3.5- and 3.8-liter V-6s, so it's probably a 90-degree configuration, typical of eight-cylinder engines. Honda engineers take up the V-8 project as they complete work on a V-6 turbodiesel. It isn't designed just for the European market, which has embraced Honda's 2.2-liter diesel four, but also would provide needed low-end torque for the Ridgeline and Pilot SUV. Low-sulfur fuel required in the U.S. from 2007 will make the engine viable and will launch about the same time as a Mercedes-Benz diesel assault on our market. Honda also is reportedly working on a hybrid-powered Ridgeline for the 2009 model year."

http://www.automotive.com/future-cars/90/36993/112-0509-honda-ridgeline-v8/index.html

:yes:

[SandM]

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[Humphrizzle]

http://www.spike.com/video/2010-honda-nsx/2997111

Video of ugly ass NSX.. sounds great, more like an F1 car and doesnt seem like a comfortable 100 thousand dollar car.


WOULD RATHER HAVE 2004 NSX.

[Nerdsrock22]

I'll take this Honda V8...

http://file024a.bebo.com/6/large/2006/11/26/17/11562569a2661824749b9392l.jpg

http://www.sssautomotive.com.au/images/downloads/fullsize/legend05.jpg

[Elbow]

^X2

[Humphrizzle]

I'll take this Honda V8...

http://file024a.bebo.com/6/large/2006/11/26/17/11562569a2661824749b9392l.jpg

http://www.sssautomotive.com.au/images/downloads/fullsize/legend05.jpg


not a production model.

[Nerdsrock22]

haha...just wanted to point out that the GTR has been thoroughly pwned by new NSX speculation.

[Humphrizzle]

yeah, honda's better than nissan.. definitely.

[Nerdsrock22]

well we agree on that.

But I don't see why you would rather have a V6 than an F1 inspired v10?

what would be more Honda than that?

[EJ25RUN]

Do you have a HUGE photo database organized and all ready for quick photo detailed replies? lol

No datbase needed. Cause it's all in my head. All i do is google image the pics i need.


all concepts i see are ugly.

This is true



so is the supposed powerplant.

You gotta explain this. It's like me saying that the RB26 is better than the VR38




Honda has already sworn to never make a production V8. Why? but they blow by it and continue for a production V10.

What exactly is the problem you have with a many piston setup. You do realize that it would be better for a VTec system as well for very high rpms. Like above 8-9K rpm. Just look at the new M3.



I do my homework. I research everything I preach.

you obviously dont because your making a terrible case for yourself.


yeah, honda's better than nissan.. definitely.

That sounds very plausible coming from you. :rolleyes:

[JITB]

not a production model.

next -gen honda legend/ Acura RL will be or is supposed to be V8...along with the ridgeline.

[Nerdsrock22]

next -gen honda legend/ Acura RL will be or is supposed to be V8...along with the ridgeline.

he was referring to the Legend Max concept which uses the current F1 v8.

but

QFT

[Humphrizzle]

You're looking for a larger argument than there is.

i just hate how all new cars are becoming so unreal and boring. you cannot possibly find any parts for a v10 honda NSX. New cars are becoming very very boring lately.. I wish they'd just quit evolving.


<---- guy who cant cope with change!

[JITB]

he was referring to the Legend Max concept which uses the current F1 v8.

but

QFT


yea i know, but its close! minus the mugen craziness..

[Ran]

next -gen honda legend/ Acura RL will be or is supposed to be V8...along with the ridgeline.I thought those plans were scraped due to the rising costs of fuel?

[JITB]

You're looking for a larger argument than there is.

i just hate how all new cars are becoming so unreal and boring. you cannot possibly find any parts for a v10 honda NSX. New cars are becoming very very boring lately.. I wish they'd just quit evolving.


<---- guy who cant cope with change!


there is a few new cars out that u like admit it..

[Humphrizzle]

I'm also a fan of all cars. Pretty much the only hobby I have at the moment. I have opinions, I dislike many cars because the ones I've worked on weren't as fun or forgiving as my honda.

I base all other cars off my 2000 Civic Si. I don't like New Si's because of the drive by wire. I dont like the TL because of the price, I like the TSX because of the options and the 2.4 liter 30mpg and it's sexy.

I could compare cars all day. But they're just my opinions and I'm bored and I'm gonna go eat some food.

[Nerdsrock22]

You're looking for a larger argument than there is.

i just hate how all new cars are becoming so unreal and boring. you cannot possibly find any parts for a v10 honda NSX. New cars are becoming very very boring lately.. I wish they'd just quit evolving.


<---- guy who cant cope with change!

I doubt there are current NSX owners rummaging through junkyards trying to find parts for their car.

"Dang Rusty! I just found me one dem Type R roof intake thingies for my NSX over his by the '32 ford, I'll be damned!"

[Humphrizzle]

there is a few new cars out that u like admit it..


New TSX will be great as long as it's 4 cylinder motor is kept and not swapped for a v6... I'd very much like it if Honda would make more inline 6 motors.

[Humphrizzle]

I doubt there are current NSX owners rummaging through junkyards trying to find parts for their car.

"Dang Rusty! I just found me one dem Type R roof intake thingies for my NSX over his by the '32 ford, I'll be damned!"


I dont look in junkyards for parts...?


That's for pieces of crap.

[EJ25RUN]

You're looking for a larger argument than there is.

i just hate how all new cars are becoming so unreal and boring. you cannot possibly find any parts for a v10 honda NSX. New cars are becoming very very boring lately.. I wish they'd just quit evolving.


<---- guy who cant cope with change!

Do you cry sometimes cause carburetors and drum brakes are gone too?

Unreal and Boring....... :???: So a 1990 generation NSX that which had one of the greatest chassis of all time but was chocked by the now defunct Japan gentleman's agreement of a 276 hp limit, and had to resort to a 3.0 Liter NA v6 instead of using their dominating 1988-1991 Formula 1 experience an making a V8, V10, V12 that would have served that car much better till this day. The $90,000 car with only 300hp debate would have never happened.

I know it's your opinion, but your off. Badly.

[JITB]

I thought those plans were scraped due to the rising costs of fuel?

the Rl wont survive it doesnt get a v8, neither will the Ridgeline.. :cry: but its all specualation because honda is/was testing a production model V8 motor for the ridgeline/Rl.

[Nerdsrock22]

As long as there is money, there will be a market for parts. Anyone could have said the same thing about the first imports.

[Humphrizzle]

haha.. reps.

good talkin to ya.

[EJ25RUN]

JITB were past 8 pages :bump:

[JITB]

JITB were past 8 pages :bump:

wait until the next GTR photoshoot! :lmfao:

[Frög]

not getting into this..

lol

["ridge"racer]

now, i definately agree with JITB that the skylines have always been ahead of the curve. i also agree that the new gtr is a very quick car. however, i think the new gtr is overrated. i got the same reaction from the evo guys when i trash talked the evo X. i don't like the fact that car companies are starting to take away the driver connection with the car.
i specifically bought an AP1 because I wanted the stay with the throttle cable system and have good tunability. granted, i want to have a great lap time, i would rather have a slightly slower lap time and enjoy every minute knowing i made the car perform the way it did than to win with computers guiding my way.

umm.. wasnt the 05 ap2 cable throttle? correct me if im wrong, because if thats the reason you bought an ap1 you may have messed up. aside from that, the only reason you should have an ap1 is the higher redline, which was lowered for the ap2, i believe, but again, correct me if im wrong.

[JITB]

I dont look in junkyards for parts...?


That's for pieces of crap.


:eek:

IM offended... :cry: i make alot of money from people like u off junkyard parts... :goodjob: Pullapart is my 2nd home.. :goodjob:

[EJ25RUN]

wait until the next GTR photoshoot! :lmfao:

i' bought my tickets. :goodjob:

[Nerdsrock22]

umm.. wasnt the 05 ap2 cable throttle? correct me if im wrong, because if thats the reason you bought an ap1 you may have messed up. aside from that, the only reason you should have an ap1 is the higher redline, which was lowered for the ap2, i believe, but again, correct me if im wrong.

Wiki says it was introduced in 2006, so yep.

it appears you are correct.

[Humphrizzle]

:eek:

IM offended... :cry: i make alot of money from people like u off junkyard parts... :goodjob: Pullapart is my 2nd home.. :goodjob:


i'd never find anything in a junkyard for my car. I have found many shift knobs in the pull a parts though!

[Elbow]

Junkyards and pullapart FTW

[EJ25RUN]

Not trying to bully but i really liked to hear an explanation for these two. A real one, Not i don't like it just cause.



so is the supposed powerplant.

You gotta explain this. It's like me saying that the RB26 is better than the VR38




Honda has already sworn to never make a production V8. Why? but they blow by it and continue for a production V10.

What exactly is the problem you have with a many piston setup. You do realize that it would be better for a VTec system as well for very high rpms. Like above 8-9K rpm. Just look at the new M3.



Junkyards and pullapart FTW

was my second job years back. It's where i learned off roading. :D

[JITB]

i'd never find anything in a junkyard for my car. I have found many shift knobs in the pull a parts though!

because ive got it already! haha!

["ridge"racer]

Wiki says it was introduced in 2006, so yep.

it appears you are correct.

i thought so, i was gonna buy an ap2 without the dbw before i bought another 8th gen civic, kinda regret not getting the s2k, but oh well.

[Doppelgänger]

I wonder if that is Jeramey blackwells car... i know he had one imported...

So wait..... if they're all made in Japan... doesn't that mean that they are ALL imported??? :lmfao: :lmfao:

[EJ25RUN]

So wait..... if they're all made in Japan... doesn't that mean that they are ALL imported??? :lmfao: :lmfao:

cobb tuning brought over a japanese one months beofre usa release and some others tuners did the same.

http://blogs.cobbtuning.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/r35-gtr-0f.JPGhttp://blogs.cobbtuning.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/loading-f.JPG
http://blogs.cobbtuning.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/r35-gtr-a.JPGhttp://blogs.cobbtuning.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/r35-gtr-g.JPG

[Humphrizzle]

all are auto?

[JITB]

all are auto?


none are auto..

[EJ25RUN]

all are auto?

Automatic transmissions have torque converters.

http://www.secondchancegarage.com/articles/images/torque/converter_exploded_view.jpg

The GTR's dual clutch setup is a paddle shifted unit with out a foot operated clutch.

http://www.motivemag.com/Content/uploads/1/gtr_dsg_gearbox.jpg

There is a difference. Learn it.

[90_ACCORD]

awesome
is that one of those jamacan flags hangin from the rear view mirror

[Doppelgänger]

cobb tuning brought over a japanese ones months beore usa release and some others did tuners did the same.



Right over your head, dude... right over your head.

Jeremy brought his car out to a meet a few weeks ago with it's Gwinnett Place Nissan temp. tag still on the car. The comment was supposed to be funny because his car is NOT a RHD model and he got it just like everyone else here in the US is getting it and that they are all imported from Japan...... :no:

I was aware many months ago that COBB had a pre-release model.

[EJ25RUN]

Right over your head, dude... right over your head.

Jeremy brought his car out to a meet a few weeks ago with it's Gwinnett Place Nissan temp. tag still on the car. The comment was supposed to be funny because his car is NOT a RHD model and he got it just like everyone else here in the US is getting it and that they are all imported from Japan...... :no:

I was aware many months ago that COBB had a pre-release model.

oh, yes i see. i missed the meet and don't know "Jeremy"

[Elbow]

The one at the V? I threw up.

[Random Hero]

YES!

This always happens...love it. :goodjob:

[SandM]

umm.. wasnt the 05 ap2 cable throttle? correct me if im wrong, because if thats the reason you bought an ap1 you may have messed up. aside from that, the only reason you should have an ap1 is the higher redline, which was lowered for the ap2, i believe, but again, correct me if im wrong.

as i said, i bought the ap1 for the cable and tunability. the ap2 04-05 had a very hard to deal with computer. you are correct though, the 04-05 were still cable driven. the redline for the ap2 was lowered because honda stepped up to a 2.2L motor and reduced the redline for reliability (however some have argued that 8500 is a more apt number)

[EJ25RUN]

YES!

This always happens...love it. :goodjob:

you missed the fun, it already ended.

[Random Hero]

you missed the fun, it already ended.

I see that...let me know next time dude. ;)

[JITB]

I see that...let me know next time dude. ;)

look for the words "GTR" or "OBAMA" in the title .. they will never let u down.. :lmfao:

[x Resilience]

You are an idiot. My car is worth more than 5k, it was not marketed towards women, but specifically toward men wanting a 4dsc(which I think the maxima never quite lived up to), an E30 would not offer a better driving experience than the gtr, and finally, I'm sure everyone can agree with me on the fact that the driving pleasure form the GTR would be tenfold of a miata. I like miata's, just like I like I like m3's. The gtr is the total package.


lol wut?

:lmao:

E30 M3 FTMFW!

[RL...]

There is no hope for some people...:D

[EJ25RUN]

There is no hope for some people...:D

Good for you. Accepting your wrong is the first step. :goodjob:

[Got Milk?]

Idc what people have to say about the GTR, but that thing is better than sex.

[I.G.R Epyon]

the new GTR is nice just not all that great. like all threads about a car once again I.A ppl go way off base and lose touch with what was started. But that makes for a few good laughs so oh well. Thanks for damn good laughs :) oh btw plz dont always refer to wiki for answer to a damn car question just go to the car makers site and get the info you need.( needed to go off base to fit in)

[Nerdsrock22]

Thanks for damn good laughs :) oh btw plz dont always refer to wiki for answer to a damn car question just go to the car makers site and get the info you need.

Normally I wouldn't use such bourgeoisie source material either, especially an editable, tertiary, non-peer approved website like wikipedia.org, but I figured since we are on an "internet forum" where most visitors cannot even use simple punctuation rules, that it would be fine this one time.

:goodjob:

["ridge"racer]

Normally I wouldn't use such bourgeoisie source material either, especially an editable, tertiary, non-peer approved website like wikipedia.org, but I figured since we are on an "internet forum" where most visitors cannot even use simple punctuation rules, that it would be fine this one time.

:goodjob:

At least your information was correct, who cares about the source. wiki, isnt that bad, but i wouldnt rely on just wiki to learn about something.

[willum14pb]

hey look, it's the guy with the $5,000 car that was originally marketed toward women (This is fact and not a cheap jab) talking up the $70,000 car and talking down what was voted by a notarized publication as the best sports car of the 1990's.

Oh and lets see that list of Miata accomplishments.

Wiki......

The MX-5 has won over 150 awards in its history, including making Car and Driver magazine's annual Ten Best list seven times; Wheels Magazine 's Car of the Year for 1989 and 2005; Sports Car International's "best sports car of the 1990s" and "ten best sports cars of all time"; 2005-2006 Car of the Year Japan; and 2005 Australian Car of the Year.

So you see there "Cookie", this "pos", is the most rewarded sports car ever and your 1 opinion wont change a damn thing.

Now, just some more on the GTR. Call me a hypocrite as i do think the GTR is a great car but to show you fan boys why it ain't all that is fun too. I recently read a great article and the writer said he felt that the E30 M3 was a better drivers car than the GTR as it offered a better driving experience. That's right, a 21 year old car worth 1/8th of the GTR is better than the new hopped up Datsun. ;)



My opinion... Cool factor means ****. Its a driver car relationship and it is based on driving pleasure. Nothing else.


Here you go again, spewing **** out of your ass. Who gives a **** what one guy said about the GTR. IF you care that much about one mans opinion, GO WATCH TOP GEARS REVIEW AND LISTEN TO JEREMY CLARKSON SCREAM ABOUT IT BEING THE GREATEST CAR EVER. But i don't care, make your own ****ing opinion. If you have an opinion other than "the gtr is one badass machine" for the GT-R, and you've NEVER driven one, you're just being a ****ing HATER. Want my opinion? Driving a go-kart at malibu grand prix is more exciting than an EJ25, but guess what, my opinion doesn't matter because you get the car you like for a reason, YOU LIKE IT. So unless you've driven a car, don't go talking about how it's not a drivers car or this or that, because you don't know ****.

[Random Hero]

Here you go again, spewing **** out of your ass. Who gives a **** what one guy said about the GTR. IF you care that much about one mans opinion, GO WATCH TOP GEARS REVIEW AND LISTEN TO JEREMY CLARKSON SCREAM ABOUT IT BEING THE GREATEST CAR EVER. But i don't care, make your own ****ing opinion. If you have an opinion other than "the gtr is one badass machine" for the GT-R, and you've NEVER driven one, you're just being a ****ing HATER. Want my opinion? Driving a go-kart at malibu grand prix is more exciting than an EJ25, but guess what, my opinion doesn't matter because you get the car you like for a reason, YOU LIKE IT. So unless you've driven a car, don't go talking about how it's not a drivers car or this or that, because you don't know ****.

u mad?


look for the words "GTR" or "OBAMA" in the title .. they will never let u down.. :lmfao:

We need to start a thread saying we saw Obama driving the new GTR. :eek:

[Elbow]

Here you go again, spewing **** out of your ass. Who gives a **** what one guy said about the GTR. IF you care that much about one mans opinion, GO WATCH TOP GEARS REVIEW AND LISTEN TO JEREMY CLARKSON SCREAM ABOUT IT BEING THE GREATEST CAR EVER. But i don't care, make your own ****ing opinion. If you have an opinion other than "the gtr is one badass machine" for the GT-R, and you've NEVER driven one, you're just being a ****ing HATER. Want my opinion? Driving a go-kart at malibu grand prix is more exciting than an EJ25, but guess what, my opinion doesn't matter because you get the car you like for a reason, YOU LIKE IT. So unless you've driven a car, don't go talking about how it's not a drivers car or this or that, because you don't know ****.

Damn ***** boy you got issues.

[Atlblkz06]

JEREMY CLARKSON is an entertainer, not a car enthusiast.

There are too many people here saying sheet like "Ferrari is the best" when they're struggling to make payments on a Honda Civic. There, I said it...

Flame suit on.

[Nerdsrock22]

JEREMY CLARKSON is an entertainer, not a car enthusiast.

There are too many people here saying sheet like "Ferrari is the best" when they're struggling to make payments on a Honda Civic. There, I said it...

Flame suit on.

QFT

Reps if I could.

[Farrow2005]

i think the new GT-R sucks, way to flashy, BIG ASS ****ING BODY! to many creature comforts to. Its suposed to be a sports car, not a luxury car. ALSO! why would a car company who perfected there inline 6 twin turbo switch 2 a V6 twin turbo? disapoints me cuz i love the hole RB line up. back to the RB20.

also, take a factory z06 and the new "skyline" both Factory...

GT-R IS SLOW AS BALLS!

[Become]

Saw one of these on Buford Hwy last night with the shipping film and temp tag on it. Sounded good from what I heard.

My opinion...in the world of premium cars, it's easy to overlook. Don't get me wrong, someone gives me a chance to drive it and I'm on it. But if I was seriously looking at cars in that price range I think it would get lost in the mix a bit.

[Nerdsrock22]

also, take a factory z06 and the new "skyline" both Factory...

GT-R IS SLOW AS BALLS!

GT-R -3.3 sec 0-60
Z06 - 3.9 sec 0-60

GT-R - 11.6 1/4 mile
Z06 - 11.7 1/4 mile


:thinking:

(times are quoted from InsideLine tests)

[Random Hero]

Who gives a baker's f.uck?

Seriously?

[Elbow]

JEREMY CLARKSON is an entertainer, not a car enthusiast.

There are too many people here saying sheet like "Ferrari is the best" when they're struggling to make payments on a Honda Civic. There, I said it...

Flame suit on.

I dont understand some of you all. So if I say Ferrari > GTR or something I CANT because I own a Miata?

[EJ25RUN]

Here you go again, spewing **** out of your ass. Who gives a **** what one guy said about the GTR. IF you care that much about one mans opinion, GO WATCH TOP GEARS REVIEW AND LISTEN TO JEREMY CLARKSON SCREAM ABOUT IT BEING THE GREATEST CAR EVER. But i don't care, make your own ****ing opinion. If you have an opinion other than "the gtr is one badass machine" for the GT-R, and you've NEVER driven one, you're just being a ****ing HATER. Want my opinion? Driving a go-kart at malibu grand prix is more exciting than an EJ25, but guess what, my opinion doesn't matter because you get the car you like for a reason, YOU LIKE IT. So unless you've driven a car, don't go talking about how it's not a drivers car or this or that, because you don't know ****.

Hello there, i see your back for your daily dose of venting about things that don't concern you.

If you took the time to read the thread, you'd see i said the GTR is a great car. But that is ok, seeing you need to use a little * to express your true feelings is good too.

I'm also glad someone cares as much about my thoughts as you. I used to have to try to get a response but now it is all a matter of time before you get on.

Some more on your reply.

Go carts at Malibu arn't all that fun to me, i prefer the ones at Andretti, they are faster and the skill required is higher. I do wish i could jump into a shifter cart but i don't have $7,000 to just drop right now on a toy.

But i must admit, my car can never pull 1.5g in a turn so, yeah any go cart > STi - No arguiment there. But you know what else Go Kart > GTR....I think so.

And Jeremy Clarkson is not a fan over high tech electros in cars and doesn't like the GTR for that. He also doesn't like its styling.

Because of Jeremy and top gear , the GTR will now forever be known as just the new Datsun.

It is now 4:22 Wendsday Aug 20. How long do you need to blow your lid again?

[RL...]

Good for you. Accepting your wrong is the first step. :goodjob:

You are a very close minded person, ignorant, and stupid.:yes:

[Elbow]

You are a very close minded person, ignorant, and stupid.:yes:

LMFAO OH **** WATCH OUT!!! FIGHTING WORDS :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[EJ25RUN]

You are a very close minded person, ignorant, and stupid.:yes:

i can list over 100 names on this that would disagree.

[Random Hero]

i can list at over 100 names on this that would disagree.

Include me on that list bro. ;)

EJ knows his ****. :yes:

[RL...]

While he might know more tchnical knowledge about cars then me, his taste is obviously misplaced.

[EJ25RUN]

While he might know more tchnical knowledge about cars then me, his taste is obviously misplaced.

Sounds like a challenge. *Goes to work*

[alpine_aw11]

While he might know more tchnical knowledge about cars then me, his taste is obviously misplaced.

Maxima's are lame. Is my taste also "misplaced" now?

[RL...]

Maxima's are lame. Is my taste also "misplaced" now?

Yes, you are also ignorant and stupid. The maxima is the best 4 door sedan out of accords and camry's. Maxima's outperform and outsell similar year v-6 accords and v-6 camry's.

[alpine_aw11]

Lol I just wanted to see you get all butt hurt over your mommy sedan.

[VooDooXII]

The car does look better in person.

[EJ25RUN]

Yes, you are also ignorant and stupid. The maxima is the best 4 door sedan out of accords and camry's. Maxima's outperform and outsell similar year v-6 accords and v-6 camry's.

I use to sell camrys and well. That is off big time. Remember what the #1 selling car in the USA was in 2007? Yes Camry.

[EJ25RUN]

While he might know more tchnical knowledge about cars then me, his taste is obviously misplaced.

Sounds like a challenge. *Goes to work*

What exactly in the cars i posted in this post and the one that follows it has misplaced taste?


My choices. $70,000 limit....

1. R34 GTR
http://blog.gtroc.com/dino/mcr2.jpg

2. 993 not the RS in the pic, those are still $100,000+
http://www.qv500.com/Porsche%20993%20P4%203.jpg

3. Mercedes 190 E
http://www.max.wizja.net/blog/mercedes_190_evo.jpg

4. Viper GTS
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/autoreview/400x266/2002-Dodge-Viper-02103411990001.jpg

5. Escort Cosworth
http://blog.543club.net/peace/archives/cosworth.jpg



Just to whore a bit.....here's some odd choices.

1. A 2008 Australian Toyota Land Cruiser Series 70 Diesel
http://allcarsreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/77037.jpg

2. Audi UrQuattro SWB
http://www.geocities.com/bgmcansh/supercars/39audisportquattro1983.jpg

3. Land Rover Defender SVX 90 (Happy 60th beeday LR)
http://www.notodocoches.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/land-rover-svx.gif

4. NSX Type R
http://honda-type-r.com/photo/honda-nsx-r-2.jpg

5. Ducati Desmo RR (With a $70K limit go all out.)
http://www.ducatiglasgow.co.uk/documents/337/337-main.jpg

[Elbow]

Yes, you are also ignorant and stupid. The maxima is the best 4 door sedan out of accords and camry's. Maxima's outperform and outsell similar year v-6 accords and v-6 camry's.

Sorry i'd MUCH rather have an Accord.

[RL...]

maxima's outsell V-6 accords and V-6 camry's. The 4 cylinder models aren't even comparable. And I'm not hurt at anyone's opinions, my car isn't the hottest thing out there, but it's clean. And you know what EJ, most of the cars you just posted are nice, especially the R34 of course.

[alpine_aw11]

maxima's outsell V-6 accords and V-6 camry's. The 4 cylinder models aren't even comparable. And I'm not hurt at anyone's opinions, my car isn't the hottest thing out there, but it's clean. And you know what EJ, most of the cars you just posted are nice, especially the R34 of course.

Congrats. I dont want a Camry or an Accord, so your Maxima outselling them isn't going to make me like it. And you obviously got hurt due to personally insulting me in your response, if you didn't care you wouldn't have called me stupid like a little 6 year old. You haven't won a single argument in this thread but you keep acting like you're so smart and you have the best taste. Can you seriously say someone has "misplaced" taste in cars? That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Just because there are some of us who wouldn't trade their left nut for a GTR doesn't mean we have bad taste.

[VooDooXII]

maxima's outsell V-6 accords and V-6 camry's. The 4 cylinder models aren't even comparable. And I'm not hurt at anyone's opinions, my car isn't the hottest thing out there, but it's clean. And you know what EJ, most of the cars you just posted are nice, especially the R34 of course.

I don't think I've ever seen a four cylinder Maxima... :rolleyes:

[RL...]

Ok, v6 accords and camrys are lame too. And you obviously got hurt due to personally insulting me in your response, if you didn't care you wouldn't have called me stupid like a little 6 year old. You haven't won a single argument in this thread but you keep acting like you're so smart and you have the best taste. Can you seriously say someone has "misplaced" taste in cars? That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Just because there are some of us who wouldn't trade their left nut for a GTR doesn't mean we have bad taste.

You're stupidity astonishes me. And I'm in know way trying to won an arguement to trying to get popular here, I drive a nissan. If i wanted to be cool here I would've bought some kind of fwd honda. And yes I can say if someone has misplaced taste is cars. You've never made fun of a ricer? O wait, that's probably you everyone is laughing at. And as I said earlier, to each his own. Some people don't liek the gtr some do, adn I understand it might not be their personal preference. But in the same way that I don't like civic's, I still respect them. And I feel one should feel the same about the GT-R. Later.

[alpine_aw11]

You're stupidity astonishes me. And I'm in know way trying to won an arguement to trying to get popular here, I drive a nissan. If i wanted to be cool here I would've bought some kind of fwd honda. And yes I can say if someone has misplaced taste is cars. You've never made fun of a ricer? O wait, that's probably you everyone is laughing at. And as I said earlier, to each his own. Some people don't liek the gtr some do, adn I understand it might not be their personal preference. But in the same way that I don't like civic's, I still respect them. And I feel one should feel the same about the GT-R. Later.

OH NOES YOU FOUND OUT I'M A RICER:(

[EJ25RUN]

You've never made fun of a ricer?

That depends, can i count you right now? Or do i have to wait for another thread?

Because my definition of a ricer is not the car, it is the mentality and you are head and shoulders above some of the worst ricers i have meet.

["ridge"racer]

Hey guys, not to start another argument, but next year nissan is only producing 1800 gtrs, however, there will be a GTR-SpecV, available with about another 100 ponies.
thought id share, and sorry, but there will not be a 6 speed however.

["ridge"racer]

That depends, can i count you right now? Or do i have to wait for another thread?

Because my definition of a ricer is not the car, it is the mentality and you are head and shoulders above some of the worst ricers i have meet.

+reps for this statement.

how true, and i cant even explain why, but "ricer" should only be categorized as a mentality. best i can do in my own words.

Ricer= Using extreme, low cost, inneffective, distastful measures to make the vehicle appear/sound to be more than it is in order to satisfy self gratification amongst ones peers or projected target group of enthusiasts. best i can do.

[RL...]

You are calling me a ricer? My car is black, my bumper's and spoiler are stock. I have no underglow or weird lights. My exhaust is very mellow, quiet and has a deep tone to it. You're funny. And you have no idea what you are talking about. You must just like talking ****, for the sake of talking ****. And I wouldn't say a ricer is a mentality. So if soemone riced out there civic, then later sold it for a clean turboed s2k, how would he be a ricer? I think not...Ricer is a term that comes to mind when something completely distasteful is done to a car. EJ, you talk a lot of ****. Anyways I'm done here, have fun making fun of my "riced out nissan."

http://a174.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/113/l_9495ab9843dd8665ace044cd7f9181bd.jpg


so ricer...Later:D

["ridge"racer]

You are calling me a ricer? My car is black, my bumper's and spoiler are stock. I have no underglow or weird lights. My exhaust is very mellow, quiet and has a deep tone to it. You're funny. And you have no idea what you are talking about. You must just like talking ****, for the sake of talking ****. And I wouldn't say a ricer is a mentality. So if soemone riced out there civic, then later sold it for a clean turboed s2k, how would he be a ricer? I think not...Ricer is a term that comes to mind when something completely distasteful is done to a car. EJ, you talk a lot of ****. Anyways I'm done here, have fun making fun of my "riced out nissan."


http://a174.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/113/l_9495ab9843dd8665ace044cd7f9181bd.jpg


so ricer...Later:D

i dont think your car is rice, i actually love your year max the most! but to help you out a little bit, if a ricer buys a true clean ap, then he would theoretically mess it up in the future, according to ricer mentality. Look man, ricer is a mentality, like being racist for example, plenty of people are racist and dont know each other, plenty of ricers have riced out cars and dont know each other. its the idea that people share. They arent doing anything but modding their cars, they just share a common misconception of what is "clean" or "jdm tight" or whatever. get it? (i do see your side as well, and your opinion)

[MachNU]

GT-R -3.3 sec 0-60
Z06 - 3.9 sec 0-60

GT-R - 11.6 1/4 mile
Z06 - 11.7 1/4 mile


:thinking:

(times are quoted from InsideLine tests)


LOL the gtr is .6 secs faster to 60, but by the end of the 1/4 its only .1 sec faster! LOL i guess thats the z06 spinning on the line for you! :goodjob:

[cactusEG]

looks 1000000x better than your pos. :goodjob:


PS: i really like the stock wheels on the GT-R, car looks great in person.

Aint that the TROOF ! !

[Elbow]

Aint that the TROOF ! !

No

[Julio]

Maxima outsells accord and camry's .... whatever **** you are smoking pass it on dude..

[SandM]

ok nissantun3r, just to clarify some things....
1. the nissan maxima was not in the same class with the accord and camry in your generation, that was the altima.
2. the maxima was classed with the avalon. standard 6 cyl. moderate luxury vehicles. Toyota got out of the real sporty scene a long time ago, so arguing about sportability between the avalon and maxima makes no sense. your generation, however, was pretty cool with the 6-speed SE model.
3. no, you didn't buy a FWD honda or something. you bought a heavy FWD nissan.

just thought i'd clear up some things... kinda bothered me.

oh, and the toyota avalon not only beat the maxima in reliability back in 2002, it completely owns the maxima in todays day and age. toyota FTMFW

[RL...]

ok nissantun3r, just to clarify some things....
1. the nissan maxima was not in the same class with the accord and camry in your generation, that was the altima.
2. the maxima was classed with the avalon. standard 6 cyl. moderate luxury vehicles. Toyota got out of the real sporty scene a long time ago, so arguing about sportability between the avalon and maxima makes no sense. your generation, however, was pretty cool with the 6-speed SE model.
3. no, you didn't buy a FWD honda or something. you bought a heavy FWD nissan.

just thought i'd clear up some things... kinda bothered me.

oh, and the toyota avalon not only beat the maxima in reliability back in 2002, it completely owns the maxima in todays day and age. toyota FTMFW

The v-6 camry, v-6 accord, and maxima's could very understandably be put in the same class, they're all 4 door economy sedans, around the same price, and offer about the same things. And a maxima is def better than an avalon. And my car is hardly what I'd call heavy for a sedan weighing in at about 3100lbs. A 2000 v-6 accord weighs 100lbs more than my 2000 max, and has less hp. And my car is extremly reliable, the vq series engines have stayed on the top 10 list for best engines since it's inception noob. It's funny how many people are nissan hater's on here. Just thought I'd clear some things up.

[EJ25RUN]

The v-6 camry, v-6 accord, and maxima's could very understandably be put in the same class, they're all 4 door economy sedans, around the same price, and offer about the same things. And a maxima is def better than an avalon. And my car is hardly what I'd call heavy for a sedan weighing in at about 3100lbs. A 2000 v-6 accord weighs 100lbs more than my 2000 max, and has less hp. And my car is extremly reliable, the vq series engines have stayed on the top 10 list for best engines since it's inception noob. It's funny how many people are nissan hater's on here. Just thought I'd clear some things up.

I'm a former Z owner. So calling me a Nissan Hater is like calling Mr. Kidd a Honda hater.

[alpine_aw11]

I'm a former Z owner. So calling me a Nissan Hater is like calling Mr. Kidd a Honda hater.

You just moved on to better things. Lol nah I am hopefully a soon to be z31 owner. But seriously sti ftw.

[SandM]

The v-6 camry, v-6 accord, and maxima's could very understandably be put in the same class, they're all 4 door economy sedans, around the same price, and offer about the same things. And a maxima is def better than an avalon. And my car is hardly what I'd call heavy for a sedan weighing in at about 3100lbs. A 2000 v-6 accord weighs 100lbs more than my 2000 max, and has less hp. And my car is extremly reliable, the vq series engines have stayed on the top 10 list for best engines since it's inception noob. It's funny how many people are nissan hater's on here. Just thought I'd clear some things up.

i was actually referring to the marketablity of the models of cars. yes, the v-6 camry and v-6 accord can be compared to the maxima, but it's all about marketability. as for the reliability, i never said your car wasn't. i am a mechanic and have worked on my fair share of maxima's. made me miss working at toyota, so i went back. i speak from experience, so calling me a noob at my own game is kind of weakly spoken.
as for me being a nissan hater, i do beleive i complimented your car in my last post, so i wasn't being a nissan hater, i was being a nissantun3r hater.

edit: by the way, when i say reliability, i dont beleive the motor is the only thing envolved.

[RL...]

You know what, my maxima is the first car I've messed with, and I bought it in 08/07. I may be new to the tuning scene, and maybe I am a noob. But I am an opinionated person, and I just have to stick up for what I like, despite what anyone else thinks about me, my, or the GT-R. Anyway it's been fun people, I'm glad I made so many friends!:cheers:

[GuilioG]

but a miata is exciting right ? lol:gay:


did i say it was ugly? no. im sorry for not worshiping the hamburger gods like you, i just dont find the car all that exciting.

[EJ25RUN]

but a miata is exciting right ? lol:gay:

damn straight it is. the 4 day old Fifth Gear proves that.

watch at 3:00 min.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS4tcUCo-M8

"best selling two seater sports car in the world ever"

the fact of the matter is an integra was just another fwd while the mx5 was the second coming of the Lotus Elan.

[AnthonyF]

oh, i thought there was going to be a nice car in this thread. My bad for jumping in.

-Ant.

[SandM]

You know what, my maxima is the first car I've messed with, and I bought it in 08/07. I may be new to the tuning scene, and maybe I am a noob. But I am an opinionated person, and I just have to stick up for what I like, despite what anyone else thinks about me, my, or the GT-R. Anyway it's been fun people, I'm glad I made so many friends!:cheers:

my only point to prove was that arguing with people about their opinions is useless. opnions are like assholes, everyones got one. good luck with the maxima.