Rockstar Motorsports Oh Emily

[BUGMAN]

Not trying to bash you or get anything started but it appears that there are a few rumors going around that my cars had top notch paint jobs and I am an azzhole?

Could you please explain to me exactly your opinion on this situation in detail on here so no one can gossip anymore crap about me. This really pisses me off and some of it came from you from what I am understanding

Help me out here. Do you really think I should of been satisfied?

[JITB]

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[DJ Maestro]

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x2 :D

[slostang]

I predict another 13,674 page thread

[X-Runner]

This should be good...

[quickdodge®]

LINK!!! (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188293)

Yeah. Later, QD.

[BKgen®]

ROUND TWO, *DING*

[BUGMAN]

Not round ll, no bash fest, no name calling, etc. Just need to know since I am hearing three different versions and I am the one with the cars.

I just want one post in public from Emily explaining how she feels, where she stands and if she really thinks I should of been satisfied with the results.

That's all.

QD funny but not appropriate in this thread. :no:

[Crazy Asian]

so wait she did that cruddy paint job.

[JITB]

better hope they didnt become a sponsor... or else it will get locked...:(

[redrumracer]

better hope they didnt become a sponsor... or else it will get locked...:(
nope still not a sponsor.

oh and grabs popcorn and watches.

[Nemesis]

so wait she did that cruddy paint job.

read the other ****ing thread n00b!


I predict that company will tank in a month.

[Echonova]

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[BKgen®]

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REPOST n00b.

i used that in turblag's racise thread already today

[Turbo Terrance]

IM LOST SOMEONE FILL ME IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BKgen®]

look for it on wikipedia

[Brett]

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~pulls up chair~

ANYONE GOT A BEER? lol

[Maniacc]

~pulls up chair~

ANYONE GOT A BEER? lol
Hope you enjoy this E-beer. :cheers:

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[Brett]

~taps against your bottle~

Thanks bro!! lol

[osnap]

oh boy...

[RandomGuy]

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[redrumracer]

seriously randomguy resize that sh!t please

[BKgen®]

i think that was the point.

[ueyedgr8tness]

Wow must i say we done been over this, 99% of IA agree that the paint job looks like a$$. I made the other thread just to make sure i wasn't the 1 needing glasses, I promise u if they where my car's.THey would have had a bill sent to them from another paint shop for them fixing the major fu** up that was done to these cars. I mean i don't even wish something like this on the president and i can't stand him..

[JITB]

theres gonna be a riot in here...if it dont get crackin..

[Echonova]

REPOST n00b.

i used that in turblag's racise thread already todaySorry I didn't search every single post you made...

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[BKgen®]

Sorry I didn't search every single post you made...

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echo you've lost that lovin feelin'.

[Nismo]

Mother ****ing link me. IM not looking. I want in for the bash fest on the butch one.

[thecrazyone]

Mother ****ing link me. IM not looking. I want in for the bash fest on the butch one.

ahaha, hey man i just went through the other thread in like 5 mintutes, prolly less, its worth reading, plus theres pics!

[Vteckidd]

ehhhh

NO offense to BUgman, cause i think hes the coolest, but with all these "new" shops popping up, i wouldnt expect decent work from anyone of them. It seems most of these places think a business license and a 10x10 foot building means they can do anything.

YOu need to be able to stand behind your work, and if its total SH!T, then dont open a shop

[BobbyFresco]

ahaha, hey man i just went through the other thread in like 5 mintutes, prolly less, its worth reading, plus theres pics!



Link please? and damn, all this fukin suspense for nothing ...

[thecrazyone]

Link please? and damn, all this fukin suspense for nothing ...

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186395&page=1&pp=20

[Echonova]

echo you've lost that lovin feelin'.I have... Ever since you said I couldn't be in g00n sQuad because I drive a 240.

The world seems so cold.:(

[BKgen®]

I have... Ever since you said I couldn't be in g00n sQuad because I drive a 240.

The world seems so cold.:(

i never said such blasphemy.

[yogi08]

Soooooo, emily... tell me about your 5.0 that you already have in your s14. or how you tied down your mustang with 1,000 pound straps and thought that two on the rear then two on the front would hold a 3800 pound mustang but i guess you forgot about how when you hit the brakes in a truck weight nearly doubles. or how your mustang got crushed by another truck because you didnt tie strap your mustang down all the way. or how you call it "rockstar" motorsports or whatever but you have no tools. no lift. exept a spray gun, and a 2 gallon air compressor. I dont like how this is going... but oh well, i havent heard anything posotive about your business yet. Batlground, Cool Cat Racing, GSCmotorsports, Carter Race (asian automotive)... those are shops! Even killswitch performance has a damn nice shop, although its in the middle of the fvcking ghetto hahaha. I just want my friend chris to be happy with work he PAYED for... that guys like family to me, and **** when he calls me and talks to me for an hour over the phone about things that help me personally then thats a real friend! I know chris wouldn't ask for money back but I personally would insist on me personally picking up the vehicle from him, painting it over, delivering it, all free of charge to save my shops reputation. Then again I wouldnt of let either of the mustangs leave the shop looking like that, hell id fire patrick on the spot for some stupid **** like that.

[yogi08]

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Do you fvcking call this a shop?? A Place of business? FAWK NO!

[BobbyFresco]

Angry much, Yogi?

[BobbyFresco]

PS: Resize those big ass pics, mufuker...LOL...damn!

[BKgen®]

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i'm OUT for the drama.

but i'm IN for LOL'ing at the bottom of that sign :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
that's what i call a slogan.

[Nismo]

Ew dude who are those ogres? Those are some huge bitches.

[Vteckidd]

Yeah i mean thats not a shop, thats someones pipe dream wanna be shop


Seriously though, people made just stupid bad business decisions, and its not uncommon. Most places fold within 12 months for a reason

[BobbyFresco]

It looks like an outhouse more than it does a shop...

[Nismo]

They have an apple so they could rule the world. I cant paint worth a ****(never tried), but Im sure I could look on google and find out how to paint a car better than that.

[yogi08]

Angry much, Yogi?
haha nah man, just feedin yall some pictures to match up with this damn "shop" ya dig? :goodjob:


PS: Resize those big ass pics, mufuker...LOL...damn!
NO! hahaha fawk u! :D



Ew dude who are those ogres? Those are some huge bitches.
the one on the couch is the "shop" owner BTW.



Yeah i mean thats not a shop, thats someones pipe dream wanna be shop


Seriously though, people made just stupid bad business decisions, and its not uncommon. Most places fold within 12 months for a reason
The location is ****ty, they have no lift... no tools.. nothing to run a business with. honestly, not even the hopes and dreams. Knowing bugman, if they wouldve painted his cars right... he probably would of found a cheap floor lift and gave it to them/installed it just as a welcome present to opening up a business! thats where they really screwed up :goodjob:

[Killswitch Performance]

LoL..

I've seen that slogan on trucks driving around time to time.. Crazy.

And Yogi, we are moving out of the Ghetto shortly, LoL.. Haven't seen or heard from you in a while though.

And best of luck to Emily and everyone else, everyone has their downs.. :)

Tyler

[BobbyFresco]

LoL..

I've seen that slogan on trucks driving around time to time.. Crazy.

And Yogi, we are moving out of the Ghetto shortly, LoL.. Haven't seen or heard from you in a while though.

Tyler


I love your 240. That is all.

[Killswitch Performance]

^^ Haha, appreciated. :)

Tyler

[BKgen®]

i think it's safe to say everybody does.

those V pics were outrageous.

[yogi08]

LoL..

I've seen that slogan on trucks driving around time to time.. Crazy.

And Yogi, we are moving out of the Ghetto shortly, LoL.. Haven't seen or heard from you in a while though.

And best of luck to Emily and everyone else, everyone has their downs.. :)

Tyler
haha but see man yall do quality work! you wouldnt never do any dumb **** like emilys "shop" did. when i did business with yall, yall welcomed me like family... so did bugman. dont move out of the ghetto yet, i havent been able to shoot anyone yet :( i kid i kid! i spoke with carina not too long ago, hope to see yall soon. :goodjob:

[quickdodge®]

everyone has their downs..

And one day, maybe in the distant future and without lack of trying, Rockstar (lolol) Motorsports (LOLOL!!!) will strive to come UP to the level of down. Later, QD.

[Killswitch Performance]

i think it's safe to say everybody does.

those V pics were outrageous.


Hopefully we will have it out next month as well, that car doesn't see much driving time.

And maybe I can get my Kouki out as well, who knows.

Thanks!

Tyler

[Echonova]

ehhhh



NO offense to BUgman, cause i think hes the coolest, but with all these "new" shops popping up, i wouldnt expect decent work from anyone of them. It seems most of these places think a business license and a 10x10 foot building means they can do anything.



YOu need to be able to stand behind your work, and if its total SH!T, then dont open a shopMy :2cents:



Bugman was trying to help out Emily and get her shop on the map. If I opened a shop and had a guy fronting the cost of materials that car wouldn't leave untill it was perfect... Like can't see sh*t with a microscope perfect. That didn't happen.



Now business is business and sometimes sh*t doesn't go the way you planned. But if it's true Emily's talking sh*t about Bugman, that ain't right. They should have paid Bug for those jobs... Because now they have to be fixed, and talken for her own post:


And please, stop spreading this ridiculous notion that it actually saves a shop ANY time when people bring their cars in "prepped" for paint.



It doesn't.



It makes it take longer, because we have to go back and fix everything you THOUGHT you knew what you were doing on, and then prep it correctly, and paint it, and listen to people say "Why is it $750? I prepped it myself!"



I lub Emily, but I lub Bugman as well and I don't wanna take sides in this. But right is right and wrong is wrong.

[Vteckidd]

I know Emilys history, and she has NO BUSINESS being apart of ANYTHING that has MOTORSPORTS in it.

Neither does JDM STEVE.

BUt thats my .02 as a person that has run 4 successful businesses :)

[Echonova]

I know Emilys history, and she has NO BUSINESS being apart of ANYTHING that has MOTORSPORTS in it.

Neither does JDM STEVE.

BUt thats my .02 as a person that has run 4 successful businesses :)Eh... I only know Emily on a personal level from the meets and she puts up with me when I get drunk and send her random sh*t.

Don't know JDM Steve.

[Vteckidd]

Shes had a bunch of halfassed projects she runs her mouth about and none of them have amounted to anything .

I dont care about her personality, im talking about credentials of running an operating a business.

THis is BUSINESS ,its not therapy. Its not lets all be nice to each other an help out. Its cut throat.

You better know what you are doing , or you will FAIL.

SHe just doesnt have the qualifications , and now that ive seen their painter, neither does he

She may be a lovely individual personality wise, but i could give 2 sh!ts about that

[PSINXS]

BUgman, once you saw the facility then you shoulda just said thanks but no thanks. if it doesnt look credible, it probably isnt.

no hate on emily she cool peeps. shell get her stuff in order.

[BUGMAN]

Emily is a great person but I think she doesn't have the balls to run something like this. She doesn't know how to be mean/stern as far as I have seen and that's something you really need if your going to run any type of business.

She did apologize to us several times about the quality of work as we were looking over the red hatch but we took it home anyway since we were told it was ready for the 2nd time. Also having words with the painter I didn't think it was a good idea to leave anything of mine there any longer. She knew it was not good but I am understanding she is saying differently now and just wanted to know.

I was pretty much called a pus because I did not start a post about this while someone else did. Well I figured if that was the case then here it is. Why in the world should I be the one worried about what people think? I didn't do anything wrong that I know of but if I did I want to know. That was the main purpose of this thread.

However this entire thread has taken off in the wrong direction so I am outta here. I will say that I have no hard feelings but didn't think it was quite fair that things were being said about us that were not true.

Carry on.

[santacruz77]

if it was some random kid in a **** box civic it woulda been a diffrent story but any one who knows bugman knows that he is willing to help anyone, and is one of the nicest and most welcoming people youll ever meet. and like posted befor he took them there im sure to be nice seeing he has a paint booth. he just wanted to help and emily and steve should have made the cars look amazing and im sure bugman could get them alot of business. it really just wasnt a good way to start.

[JITB]

closed mon - sun 9-7 WHAT!

[yogi08]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hah

[rupertaker]

or how you tied down your mustang with 1,000 pound straps and thought that two on the rear then two on the front would hold a 3800 pound mustang but i guess you forgot about how when you hit the brakes in a truck weight nearly doubles. or how your mustang got crushed by another truck because you didnt tie strap your mustang down all the way.

oh.
jesus.

LOL.

please elaborate.

[yogi08]

oh.
jesus.

LOL.

please elaborate.
haha long ass story really. She said she had a 5.0 mustang motor (correct me if im wrong but thats a 302 right?) already in her s14.5. Some people i know that actually know her told me its its still in the mustang her dumb fat ass didnt tie down onto her fvcking truck. well actually her dads truck, and when it happend insurance gave her $1,200 bucks for her damn peice of **** mustang. Funny as hell to me... being im like 6 hours from athens and i know all of this. :goodjob:

[rupertaker]

haha long ass story really. She said she had a 5.0 mustang motor (correct me if im wrong but thats a 302 right?) already in her s14.5. Some people i know that actually know her told me its its still in the mustang her dumb fat ass didnt tie down onto her fvcking truck. well actually her dads truck, and when it happend insurance gave her $1,200 bucks for her damn peice of **** mustang. Funny as hell to me... being im like 6 hours from athens and i know all of this. :goodjob:

so cheap 4wheeler straps, car falls off and gets hit by an 18wheeler?

wow.

[yogi08]

so cheap 4wheeler straps, car falls off and gets hit by an 18wheeler?

wow.
Yep, thats how it goes with her. she doesnt take care of **** and she doesnt care about your ****.

[Specsteve]

Wait so that thread with the horribly painted red and blue 5.0 (I think? IIRC) was done by a "shop"?!?!?!?

W
T
F

seriously. Give me a few gallons of house paint and I could make that b**** look better than that

[X-Runner]

The first car I ever painted (in my driveway at that) looked 10X better than her crap work.

[JITB]

but ill have to say it again this little scheduling issue they have might hurt business...
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[Specsteve]

^^^ so true.

My brother used to own a performance shop and they didnt close till 10, and they left there every night around midnight give or take. And then the next day they were back there at 9am doin the dammn thing.

[Elbow]

Ok I am still trying to figure out wtf that door means. And damn come on buy a clean shop lol. Even if this was a kickass business the look of it would make me take my money elsewhere.

[Tiff-O-Bitties]

Wow. Why is everyone else getting involved? It wasn't their f*ing car... I don't understand. Em is a cool chick...

[Nemesis]

Wow. Why is everyone else getting involved? It wasn't their f*ing car... I don't understand. Em is a cool chick...

She may be a cool chick but doesnt know how to run a business.

[Kyle]

I know Emilys history, and she has NO BUSINESS being apart of ANYTHING that has MOTORSPORTS in it.

Neither does JDM STEVE.

BUt thats my .02 as a person that has run 4 successful businesses :)
I would never trust a car of mine with someone who has a 5.0 240 that is ugly as hell.



Do you fvcking call this a shop?? A Place of business? FAWK NO!
HAHAHAHAHHA. I think I just pooped.


haha long ass story really. She said she had a 5.0 mustang motor (correct me if im wrong but thats a 302 right?)
Well a liter is roughly 61 cubic inches, so I guess its a 302.

[Tiff-O-Bitties]

She may be a cool chick but doesnt know how to run a business.

So, don't use her. Simple. She'll figure it out when her "shop" goes under.

[JITB]

Wow. Why is everyone else getting involved? It wasn't their f*ing car... I don't understand. Em is a cool chick...


u can get ur car painted their all u want than.. :goodjob:

[Nemesis]

So, don't use her. Simple. She'll figure it out when her "shop" goes under.

lol trust me , I dont. I was just saying.... plus this is more of a public service announcment...so people dont get ripped off....

[buddha@TeamFX]

Chris...that is definately horrible for business. It looks like work someone else we know would've done!

[Kyle]

Wow. Why is everyone else getting involved? It wasn't their f*ing car... I don't understand. Em is a cool chick...
Well it is a forum. And she talked about how she has a great paint guy or whatever and then this happens. Hrmmm...

How is she cool, she's obnoxious as hell both on and off the internet.

[Nemesis]

Well it is a forum. And she talked about how she has a great paint guy or whatever and then this happens. Hrmmm...

How is she cool, she's obnoxious as hell both on and off the internet.

lol

[BUGMAN]

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You mean like that?

Holy crap you gave it to me with no headlights or tail lights? Dammit I knew something was missing. :thinking:

At least you picked the best possible angle and the best side to post but you still missed a few small things in that picture.

So you were passing that picture around saying that it was perfect when it left your shop. That's all I needed to know.

Anyone that cares to see your extreme quality of perfection that you are completely satisfied with leaving your shop I will make is possible. I have not touched either car so anyone wanting to see either of them in person shoot me a PM and I will gladly drive one to you for you to see what she thinks is quality paint.

How about the drivers door side? And why were you apologizing to me so much when we picked it up to now go around saying that it was pristine and showed a shot in the direct sunlight hiding 1/2 the paint???

Ya know what... It doesn't even matter. At least now I know where you stand on this.

[BUGMAN]

Even in the best possible angle in the brightest sun you could find you still can't hide some of the issues at hand.

Red wheels, red tires, red cowl section, red trim over the black, front headlight inner missed 80%, etc. That's the exact picture that I was forwarded also with you saying that it left your shop in top quality form.

Emily I am very disappointed that you would stand there in your shop and apologize to us repeatedly while looking over the car and then stpop to this. I found it hard to believe when I was told this by several people that saw the car at your shop but thank you for confirming it for everyone.

I find something surprising every day of my life so this just blends right in with the rest of garbage I deal with. Appreciate it!

[ShooterMcGavin]

i don't know bugman from the bugs around my house, but just from the thread in his sig alone i can tell he's an upstanding guy so i'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here for sure even w/o seeing any pics...

with that said, now that i've seen pictures of the car, i'm f*cking blown away. i didn't even know cars could look that bad. i mean sh*t i've seen cars straight up spray painted that looked better than that "paint job".

and seriously? those are pics of the "shop"? motherf*cking wow, the sh*t that passes for a business these days is amazing. if you would've only shown me only one side of that shop i would have no problems believing it was a septic tank cleaning company, bc place straight up looks like a where george and ran takes their "friends" after school :lmfao:

[Tiff-O-Bitties]

u can get ur car painted their all u want than.. :goodjob:

It's there and then... geeze.

Plus, I wouldn't have my old beater repainted to save my life... I like my fading paint and dents... lol..

seriously though.. wgaf?

[ShooterMcGavin]

She may be a cool chick but doesnt know how to run a business.
qft

[green91]

Its all about the person, i personally could take a shop that size and turn very high quality mechanic work out of it, or even decent paintwork (better than has been shown).. but the person has to have the knowledge and drive.

[BUGMAN]

Man I am such an azzhole.

I should of been so happy with this quality of work. I mean what was I thinking?

[BobbyFresco]

Man I am such an azzhole.

I should of been so happy with this quality of work. I mean what was I thinking?


Was your car "painted" at a school for the deaf, dumb , and blind by any chance?

[BobbyFresco]

Or maybe....and this is just an idea here but......maybe the person was blindfolded when they did it...?

[ShooterMcGavin]

Was your car "painted" at a school for the deaf, dumb , and blind by any chance?
quit insulting the handicapped, i'm sure the team of forrest gump, helen keller and mozart could've done a much better job painting that car :lmao:

[BobbyFresco]

quit insulting the handicapped, i'm sure the team of forrest gump, helen keller and mozart could've done a much better job painting that car :lmao:



An autistic 5 year old could have painted those cars better with only crayons and managed to stay in the lines...

[BUGMAN]

Was your car "painted" at a school for the deaf, dumb , and blind by any chance?

You know that place too? :D

[Specsteve]

Wow. Why is everyone else getting involved? It wasn't their f*ing car... I don't understand. Em is a cool chick...

Why is everyone getting involved? Because this is a public service announcement so none of us will have to go through this BS that this business put Bugman through. If I were him, I would be contacting a lawyer.

And I know Emily might be a really nice person, with a cool personality or whatever, but if she is as cool as people keep saying she is, she would not of let this happen, and she would have taken responsibility for her business' actions. That is part of being a business owner.

Honestly because of her reputation now she is already toast, which is unfortunate, but from what I have seen I would not want to put anyone else through what Bugman has gone through.

[Elbow]

Everytime I look at that I go outside and see how much better my spray painted front bumper looks.

[Nemesis]

If you want REAL photos of your car, PM me.... my camera wont hide anything.

[v-empire]

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thats a very nice picture ^ . so clear and crisp!

[Nemesis]

thats a very nice picture ^ . so clear and crisp!

it musta been a dslr! :lmfao:

[KREEP]

I know bugman and he is a great guy who was trying to help someone by throwing some work their way. They threw back some sh!ty work one of which was painted twice and they still came back looking like crap. I am not trying to bash anyones shop or anyone in general but when you put out work like that and then turn around and talk sh!t and tell people that "bugman is crazy those cars were perfect when they left the shop".....I am sorry but that is jsut wrong. I saw these cars in person and they both have been painted by a fuccing retard. That guy travis need to find a new job! You can't not honestly tell me that those came out of that shop and looked good!
It would be best if the owner of the shop just admitted that these were crappy paint jobs and fire that no good retarted/drunk painter. Like I said I saw these cars in person and feel sorry that Bugman had to pay any amount of money for what he got.

[Tiff-O-Bitties]

Hey Hey.. no need to get all bishy... Cheese and Rice... I'm not defending her or her work by any means and her rep may be toast, it's none of my business... Peace.

[Echonova]

Hey Hey.. no need to get all bishy... Cheese and Rice... I'm not defending her or her work by any means and her rep may be toast, it's none of my business... Peace.http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/2007-04-16-51187.gif

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*gasp!*

*grabs more popcorn*

[ueyedgr8tness]

Well like i have stated before i seen the cars when he brought them back,and if he would of asked what i thought of the paint job i would of pulled down my pants. pulled out my little wee wee and:piss: all over the car just to show him how they put the paint on:lmfao: I mean i could of covered more spots than they did. oh!! and i forgot to mention:ninja: Just for pointers i noticed on the cars emily that who ever sprayed them put the paint on way to heavy because it had more build up than my bowels when i havent took a shi* in 2 weeks. So next time the dude paints some 1 car tell him to back off the car a little and not apply so much paint at 1 time.

[BKgen®]

it had more build up than my bowels when i havent took a shi* in 2 weeks.

damn son. you might wanna get that checked out...

[SixSquared]

Not trying to bash you or get anything started but it appears that there are a few rumors going around that my cars had top notch paint jobs and I am an azzhole?

Could you please explain to me exactly your opinion on this situation in detail on here so no one can gossip anymore crap about me. This really pisses me off and some of it came from you from what I am understanding

Help me out here. Do you really think I should of been satisfied?

I don't know who you have been talking to, but I have never had a bad word to say about you. I also never said your cars had "top notch" paint jobs. I told a couple of people that they were NOT top notch paint jobs, but that the pics in the other thread were extremely zoomed in on and made small imperfections look huge. But I have never had anything but nice things to say about you, including going so far as to say that it was pretty cool that you were willing to keep our personal friendship and a business relationship seperate.

What I DO know is that things have been coming back at me that no one else but you would know, which lets me know that YOU in fact have been saying things about me. I was quite prepared to let this just die down, but since you insist on bringing it up, then I'll bite.

I also know that if you brought a car to any other shop, told them to "pick the color" and then it wasn't what you wanted, that they would more than likely not do anything, not offer anything, in retribution. But because I do think highly of you, we offered you not one but TWO options. Option 1 was we cut you a deep discount on an already discounted price and leave the car the way it was. We would have happily repaired any clearcoat drips/etc had you asked, and as I SAID when you came to pick up the blue car, we would be happy to bring it AND the red car back once our paint booth was up so that we would have a light enough space to work in and could really see well. Option 2 was for you to cover the cost of paint and we would sand down the blue car and re-spray it for you, in a color that you brought us the code for. We left the ball in your court on those, and you haven't said anything back to us.

I also know that we did a LOT of bodywork on both cars, some of which was discussed, some of it which was not. Repairing not one but TWO hoods, swapping/lining up 2 hoods, swapping rear bumpers, repairing hail dings, repairing a window molding, repairing a hole in the metal on the blue car that was showing signs of rust (small hole on A pillar between driver's side window and windshield)... we did a LOT of work. And there were plenty of times where Pat and I actually stopped and said "well, we didn't talk about this", but we went ahead and did it anyway, because we wanted you to be happy. The bodywork alone on the cars was worth MUCH more than the $650 you paid us, which is why I haven't offered you a refund.

And I don't know what you're trying to prove by putting up pictures of my shop. So it's not a huge, awesome building. So our landlord has his business right next to it and he runs a septic tank business. It's a place to work on cars. Nothing more, nothing less. The stenciled paint on the outside is left over from the people who were there before us because we have had other things to do aside from painting the outside. Our landlord just got done cleaning up the outside, and our next step is to worry about the exterior appearance of the building itself.

At the end of it, I have never had a negative thing to say, but I am getting irritated that you are mistaking kindness from me for weakness. I am NOT a pushover, and I'm not a wimp. No, I don't like confrontation, and will do my best to find a conclusion to a problem that makes everyone happy. Sure, I let things slide, like the fact that you insulted my shop the moment you arrived, but I do that because I have bigger fish to fry in this world. But, since you insist on continuing to bring this up, here's where I stand on it. I'm willing to forego the $300 in paint and materials that you basically stiffed us on for the blue car. If you want to make that big a deal about it, fine, keep it. It's yours. However, I am not about to refund you anything, based on the fact that Patrick and I BOTH offered you further services, which you declined, and offered you 2 options on the blue car, which you declined. We left the ball in your court, and you packed it up and went home with it. All of the offers that we made to you DO still stand, if you wish to think them over. But that's your choice.

End of story.

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[Vteckidd]

once our paint booth was up so that we would have a light enough space to work in and could really see well.

You shouldnt advertise a painting service if you arent setup to do a painting service.

Make sense?

thats like saying you work on cars, do a swap for someone, then say "oh we are sorry it looks like crap, but come back when we actualy have tools and we can do a much better job"

Any invoices made or signed by either party?

[SixSquared]

Invoices made AND signed for on red car, stating that the work we did is done to customer's specification AND satisfaction. Blue car we didn't make one.

And we admitted that we were painting before we were properly setup to, which is why we were (and still are) willing to take the cars back and repair them.

[JITB]

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YES!

[quickdodge®]

I was quite prepared to let this just die down,

How convenient. You fucc up and hope that everything just goes away.



And I don't know what you're trying to prove by putting up pictures of my shop. So it's not a huge, awesome building. So our landlord has his business right next to it and he runs a septic tank business.

WOW!!! Lolol. The shiit really hit the fan here. Right out of the septic tank and straight onto Bugman's cars.


I have bigger fish to fry in this world.

Might wanna get the stove pre-heated then.


I'm willing to forego the $300 in paint and materials that you basically stiffed us on for the blue car.

Is that along with forgoing on a good paint job?


based on the fact that Patrick and I BOTH offered you further services, which you declined, and offered you 2 options on the blue car, which you declined.

So because you he declined some sort of options, you decide to do shoddy work on his cars?


End of story.
You don't call the shots here. Later, QD.

[stillaneon]

quit insulting the handicapped, i'm sure the team of forrest gump, helen keller and mozart could've done a much better job painting that car :lmao:

What does a musical genius have to do with it?

[osnap]

he probably meant to say beethoven, but even that wouldnt make sense considering beethoven was merely deaf and i dont really see that hindering his painting ability lol

[KREEP]

Think of everyone on here as customers...........

1st -the body work done looks like trash.

2nd- paint should never come out looking like that first or the second time.

I have seen people paint a car outside w/ out a paintbooth that looked way better than those 2 mustangs did.

This is not a bashing of Emily This is just business nothing more.
Get a new painter

[stillaneon]

he probably meant to say beethoven, but even that wouldnt make sense considering beethoven was merely deaf and i dont really see that hindering his painting ability lol

I was wondering.

I sat there thinking, Mozart wasnt deaf. Maybe Beethoven, but then again, he could see, so why couldnt he paint.

+ if I can

[BUGMAN]

I don't know who you have been talking to, but I have never had a bad word to say about you. I also never said your cars had "top notch" paint jobs. I told a couple of people that they were NOT top notch paint jobs, but that the pics in the other thread were extremely zoomed in on and made small imperfections look huge. But I have never had anything but nice things to say about you, including going so far as to say that it was pretty cool that you were willing to keep our personal friendship and a business relationship seperate.

What I DO know is that things have been coming back at me that no one else but you would know, which lets me know that YOU in fact have been saying things about me. I was quite prepared to let this just die down, but since you insist on bringing it up, then I'll bite.

I also know that if you brought a car to any other shop, told them to "pick the color" and then it wasn't what you wanted, that they would more than likely not do anything, not offer anything, in retribution. But because I do think highly of you, we offered you not one but TWO options. Option 1 was we cut you a deep discount on an already discounted price and leave the car the way it was. We would have happily repaired any clearcoat drips/etc had you asked, and as I SAID when you came to pick up the blue car, we would be happy to bring it AND the red car back once our paint booth was up so that we would have a light enough space to work in and could really see well. Option 2 was for you to cover the cost of paint and we would sand down the blue car and re-spray it for you, in a color that you brought us the code for. We left the ball in your court on those, and you haven't said anything back to us.

I also know that we did a LOT of bodywork on both cars, some of which was discussed, some of it which was not. Repairing not one but TWO hoods, swapping/lining up 2 hoods, swapping rear bumpers, repairing hail dings, repairing a window molding, repairing a hole in the metal on the blue car that was showing signs of rust (small hole on A pillar between driver's side window and windshield)... we did a LOT of work. And there were plenty of times where Pat and I actually stopped and said "well, we didn't talk about this", but we went ahead and did it anyway, because we wanted you to be happy. The bodywork alone on the cars was worth MUCH more than the $650 you paid us, which is why I haven't offered you a refund.

And I don't know what you're trying to prove by putting up pictures of my shop. So it's not a huge, awesome building. So our landlord has his business right next to it and he runs a septic tank business. It's a place to work on cars. Nothing more, nothing less. The stenciled paint on the outside is left over from the people who were there before us because we have had other things to do aside from painting the outside. Our landlord just got done cleaning up the outside, and our next step is to worry about the exterior appearance of the building itself.

At the end of it, I have never had a negative thing to say, but I am getting irritated that you are mistaking kindness from me for weakness. I am NOT a pushover, and I'm not a wimp. No, I don't like confrontation, and will do my best to find a conclusion to a problem that makes everyone happy. Sure, I let things slide, like the fact that you insulted my shop the moment you arrived, but I do that because I have bigger fish to fry in this world. But, since you insist on continuing to bring this up, here's where I stand on it. I'm willing to forego the $300 in paint and materials that you basically stiffed us on for the blue car. If you want to make that big a deal about it, fine, keep it. It's yours. However, I am not about to refund you anything, based on the fact that Patrick and I BOTH offered you further services, which you declined, and offered you 2 options on the blue car, which you declined. We left the ball in your court, and you packed it up and went home with it. All of the offers that we made to you DO still stand, if you wish to think them over. But that's your choice.

End of story.

Where did you come up with all of that? Open a fortune cookie and post up what you thought it said?

Patrick told me the day I was coming to pick up the car that he would re-buff the Smurfette car and after that he was through with me and my junk. Heck he even refused to meet us up there but instead made you drive up there without a license. Remember? I talked to you about it and you said that he shouldn't of said any of that without talking to you first since it was your shop. He didn't even come up to discuss anything and at that point he was done with my junk. At that point I told him that we could just end it with the red car because buffing and waxing wasn't gonna help the Smurfette worth crap and after acting like that I really didn't want any of my cars there any longer. Just didn't seem like a smart thing to do. I mean would you leave your cars with someone that was cussing at you and telling you that they were not doing business with you anymore? C'mon now, you can change it around and make it sound as good as you want but that is what he said and that is why I wouldn't bother bringing Smurfette back for a buffing. You really think that will help anything on that job? Geez almighty that thing was pathetic.

I am not the one that gave the set prices, you did. If there was something extra to be added then it should have been discussed but you never said a word. (miscommunication) I also never knew anything about any holes anywhere with rust on anything, once again never mentioned to me and since they are my cars it probably would of been nice to inform me ya think? Also the bumper that you told me you sanded for 3 days was never touched. If it was then your doing something really bad wrong because it looks the same as it did before chipping and cracking.

Do we really wanna go to the body work part? I think I will take Nemesis up on his offer so then everyone can also see the $650 of body work that was done. I can do this all month long and if you think I owe you money you have lost your mind.

You told me in your shop that day that you were sorry and you knew that both cars needed repainting. You even said that you and Patrick needed to have a talk because of the quality of the paint. Then you post up that picture like it was a perfect paint job and I am the crazy one.

You two have a serious miscommunication problem. You said you had a sample for the dark blue paint and a good one because it came off in sheets. Then Patrick tells me that he forgot the sample but it was a very close match. I never told you to paint it any color you wanted. I trusted you and him with my exact words being to paint it the same blue or darker and to pick a color that wasn't gay. Therefore you failed miserably on both accounts.

I don't remember posting any pictures of your shop anywhere nor do I recall bashing your shop intentionally. I have also never said anything bad about you until today when you posted that picture up bragging on the paint job. That's okay...

BOTTOM LINE... Both of the cars you painted look like garbage and need more now than they did before you got them before they will ever look decent again. I have had 4 painted by a local shop for less with more work and look 100 times better. Notice the before and after pictures in the car picture thread. Look close because that's what a $500 paint job is suppose to look like. Oh and on the maroon one. They swapped, aligned and drilled the hood, fixed a dozen dings, the drivers door where someone backed into a pole and bent the crap out of it backwards, sanded the entire car (not using 80 grit like you did) then put a good quality paint job on the car with no runs, no drips, no deep sanding marks, no dry spots, no missed spots, etc, etc, etc, etc.....

That job cost me exactly $620.00 and I can gladly post the receipt up if you really wanna see it. Really, I don't mind at all. :)

[redrumracer]

I don't know who you have been talking to, but I have never had a bad word to say about you. I also never said your cars had "top notch" paint jobs. I told a couple of people that they were NOT top notch paint jobs, but that the pics in the other thread were extremely zoomed in on and made small imperfections look huge. But I have never had anything but nice things to say about you, including going so far as to say that it was pretty cool that you were willing to keep our personal friendship and a business relationship seperate.

What I DO know is that things have been coming back at me that no one else but you would know, which lets me know that YOU in fact have been saying things about me. I was quite prepared to let this just die down, but since you insist on bringing it up, then I'll bite.

I also know that if you brought a car to any other shop, told them to "pick the color" and then it wasn't what you wanted, that they would more than likely not do anything, not offer anything, in retribution. But because I do think highly of you, we offered you not one but TWO options. Option 1 was we cut you a deep discount on an already discounted price and leave the car the way it was. We would have happily repaired any clearcoat drips/etc had you asked, and as I SAID when you came to pick up the blue car, we would be happy to bring it AND the red car back once our paint booth was up so that we would have a light enough space to work in and could really see well. Option 2 was for you to cover the cost of paint and we would sand down the blue car and re-spray it for you, in a color that you brought us the code for. We left the ball in your court on those, and you haven't said anything back to us.

I also know that we did a LOT of bodywork on both cars, some of which was discussed, some of it which was not. Repairing not one but TWO hoods, swapping/lining up 2 hoods, swapping rear bumpers, repairing hail dings, repairing a window molding, repairing a hole in the metal on the blue car that was showing signs of rust (small hole on A pillar between driver's side window and windshield)... we did a LOT of work. And there were plenty of times where Pat and I actually stopped and said "well, we didn't talk about this", but we went ahead and did it anyway, because we wanted you to be happy. The bodywork alone on the cars was worth MUCH more than the $650 you paid us, which is why I haven't offered you a refund.

And I don't know what you're trying to prove by putting up pictures of my shop. So it's not a huge, awesome building. So our landlord has his business right next to it and he runs a septic tank business. It's a place to work on cars. Nothing more, nothing less. The stenciled paint on the outside is left over from the people who were there before us because we have had other things to do aside from painting the outside. Our landlord just got done cleaning up the outside, and our next step is to worry about the exterior appearance of the building itself.

At the end of it, I have never had a negative thing to say, but I am getting irritated that you are mistaking kindness from me for weakness. I am NOT a pushover, and I'm not a wimp. No, I don't like confrontation, and will do my best to find a conclusion to a problem that makes everyone happy. Sure, I let things slide, like the fact that you insulted my shop the moment you arrived, but I do that because I have bigger fish to fry in this world. But, since you insist on continuing to bring this up, here's where I stand on it. I'm willing to forego the $300 in paint and materials that you basically stiffed us on for the blue car. If you want to make that big a deal about it, fine, keep it. It's yours. However, I am not about to refund you anything, based on the fact that Patrick and I BOTH offered you further services, which you declined, and offered you 2 options on the blue car, which you declined. We left the ball in your court, and you packed it up and went home with it. All of the offers that we made to you DO still stand, if you wish to think them over. But that's your choice.

End of story.
Ok so you did extra work that wasnt agreed upon? thats your fault. and honestly after seeing the work done(multiple times) i dont blame him for not wanting to go ahead and get it repainted again jsut to be still fuked up. and the discounted price, what was the discount on? a good paint job, i know not.
lets look at it like this, you hire a guy to fix your roof, and lets say your parents or gf house., and he fuks it up once and agrees to redo your house again but still fuks up. would you let him attempt it again for the 3rd or 4th time?

[v-empire]

how do you guys type so fast?

wow.

[BUGMAN]

And we admitted that we were painting before we were properly setup to, which is why we were (and still are) willing to take the cars back and repair them.

You want me to pay for the paint again and let you try again? Why would I do that when I can get it done cheaper, 100x better, guaranteed work, no drama behind my back and in less than a week without having to take it back several times to get it right? Are you serious?

You know and so does he that he told me he was done with my junk. Back peddling ain't gonna work on this one. Once someone talks to me like that and tells me they are done doing business with me then I accept and never go in reverse. That is something a smart business person would react. No back peddling here. Not now, not ever.

This is really simple. Just look at the bottom line and where you stand with this now.

Oh before I forget... Do these two blues really look really close in color to you? I think you told several people that they were very close and even the paint supply place said so too. Once again, ARE YOU SERIOUS?

[Echonova]

how do you guys type so fast?

wow.Skrills

[ueyedgr8tness]

[QUOTE=xPhantomSilviax]but I am getting irritated that you are mistaking kindness from me for weakness. I am NOT a pushover, and I'm not a wimp. No, I don't like confrontation, and will do my best to find a conclusion.




kindness for weakness:thinking: Something i have learned when running a business,is that the customers allway's right.In most cases they might not be right but in this case,u don't throw melon seeds in the grass and get peaches. Since saying you do bad work your gonna get bad reputation:yes: chris is not trying to push u over but i think u just told every 1 in this thread how u reall where when u posted pics of the car from a distance and u could still see fu**ups, and u said [/ quote] this is how it left my shop:no:

[redrumracer]

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240 up in dis bieotch

[BlueHatch]

i wouldnt worry about frying "bigger fish"! your "shop" and i use that term loosley couldnt please a man with the good nature of mother theresa! who, from what i gather, could have taken his cars a million other places, but instead tried to help you out and this is the road you choose to take? why dont you just admit you f'd his cars up, fix them for free and try to salvage a future customer or two?

[yogi08]

Finally im on a computer to read, and all I can do is laugh at the situation because emily knows its never going to blow over as long as shes unhonest business person.

[ueyedgr8tness]

i wouldnt worry about frying "bigger fish"! your "shop" and i use that term loosley couldnt please a man with the good nature of mother theresa! who, from what i gather, could have taken his cars a million other places, but instead tried to help you out and this is the road you choose to take? why dont you just admit you f'd his cars up, fix them for free and try to salvage a future customer or two?

man u nailed it on the head:goodjob: by saying the fact that he was trying to do a good deed and this is how he gets a thank u in return:no:

[BlueHatch]

and bugman!! let me try to paint one of those pony's!! i have my daughters water
colors right here ! itll look great i swear!!!

[Echonova]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/orig.jpg

[Echonova]

Since I'm the only one posting...
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[silversol]

Since I'm the only one posting...
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/ATT00001.gif
hahahaha :lmfao:

[BlueHatch]

hahahaha :lmfao:
lets get some mexican! ill be out there shortly

[viperbite]

in any kind of buisness transaction or relationship of any type. friend, brother, marriage, buisness partner, customer... whatever. you have to communicate. everything has to be on the table. 52 cards in the deck. la te de la te da. i dont know what all went on here but i do know patrick and emily personally. this is the first complaint about their paint ive seen. and really, the first complaint about rockstar motorsports ive heard of. let alone about patrick and emily. this complaint isnt formal at all, its a ****ty way to talk bad about someone because you have some evidence of a bad paint job. either way, the only persons reputation lost should be from the people who handled the complaint wrong. buisness is a 2 way street. and if you feel youre being dealt cards wrong. dont sit and demand stuff, sit and talk. like civil people.

[BUGMAN]

and bugman!! let me try to paint one of those pony's!! i have my daughters water
colors right here ! itll look great i swear!!!

You got a deal Sir. :cheers:

[Echonova]

in any kind of buisness transaction or relationship of any type. friend, brother, marriage, buisness partner, customer... whatever. you have to communicate. everything has to be on the table. 52 cards in the deck. la te de la te da. i dont know what all went on here but i do know patrick and emily personally. this is the first complaint about their paint ive seen. and really, the first complaint about rockstar motorsports ive heard of. let alone about patrick and emily. this complaint isnt formal at all, its a ****ty way to talk bad about someone because you have some evidence of a bad paint job. either way, the only persons reputation lost should be from the people who handled the complaint wrong. buisness is a 2 way street. and if you feel youre being dealt cards wrong. dont sit and demand stuff, sit and talk. like civil people.http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/c8c9.jpg

[Vteckidd]

this is the first complaint about their paint ive seen. and really, the first complaint about rockstar motorsports ive heard of. let alone about patrick and emily.

Not bad for a business thats been open what, 1 month?

[viperbite]

^ ?

what in the world? (to the picture posted)

and
patrick has had much more than a month of experience in this field

[Vteckidd]

then he needs to take some classes cause i painted my roof on my integra with spray paint and a can of clear coat an it looks 10000000 times better

[Evil Goat]

Not bad for a business thats been open what, 1 month?


haha, reps, exact same thing i was thinking :lmfao:

[Echonova]

^ ?

what in the world? (to the picture posted)

and
patrick has had much more than a month of experience in this fieldJust saying people are gonna take shots at you for that...:lmfao:

Far as I know Bugman was their first customer...

[Vteckidd]

Proof what my $6 paint job looks like

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/Vteckidd/DSCF0793.jpg

[Echonova]

Proof what my $6 paint job looks like

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[quickdodge®]

this complaint isnt formal at all, its a ****ty way to talk bad about someone because you have some evidence of a bad paint job.

You don't have to make a complaint a black tie affair, dude. What bettre way to spread the word than on a public forum with thousands of your peers. You're biased because you are (admittedly) friends with a couple of the "shop personnel." I don't see anything wrong with this.


either way, the only persons reputation lost should be from the people who handled the complaint wrong.

Nah. Later, QD.

[KREEP]

Get rid of the DRUNKEN RETARDED PAINTER!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/steve-o2/drunk.gif

[SixSquared]

I did not post up a pic of the red car to "brag" about it, or to make it look like a show quality car. That pic is unretouched, and I just put it up so that it was a more fair judgement, seeing as the only photos people had seen of it were from 1/2 an inch a way. And as far as that car goes, you signed an invoice for it when you picked it up. Rememeber? I'm sorry if you didn't read what you signed, but that invoice said the work was done to your satisfaction. It's not my fault that you either didn't read what you signed, or didn't inspect the car fully upon delivery. Patrick agreed to buff it again and get a little more shine out of it, which is more than he should have done, but he did anyways.

If you want to mince words with Patrick about how the color was picked on the blue car, feel free to call him. You have his number. It's easy to be a keyboard commando when the situation appears to be in your favor, since I know that nothing I will ever say or do will make this disappear. All I can do is move on and concentrate on the other cars we have in the shop, which is exactly what I'm doing. Like I said, we offered you options, you can take them or leave them. The red car is a done deal, the blue one you do have options on.

We've done other work and have had no complaints, and upon realizing that this was going to be an issue, we started offering alternative lines of solution. That's the best we can do.

[BUGMAN]

in any kind of buisness transaction or relationship of any type. friend, brother, marriage, buisness partner, customer... whatever. you have to communicate. everything has to be on the table. 52 cards in the deck. la te de la te da. i dont know what all went on here but i do know patrick and emily personally. this is the first complaint about their paint ive seen. and really, the first complaint about rockstar motorsports ive heard of. let alone about patrick and emily. this complaint isnt formal at all, its a ****ty way to talk bad about someone because you have some evidence of a bad paint job. either way, the only persons reputation lost should be from the people who handled the complaint wrong. buisness is a 2 way street. and if you feel youre being dealt cards wrong. dont sit and demand stuff, sit and talk. like civil people.

Fact

1: I never ever demanded anything from either of them.
2: This is in defense of me being discredited.
3: My reputation? For who you? Is that a joke?
4: Communicate? That was my job? WTF?
5: Evidence? Geez you are hyped.
6: Civil/professional people don't tell customers they are through with them.
7: Being dealt cards wrong? I let this die the day I got home. Never said anything else and was letting it slide in hopes that they may recover. Then this week I get told by several people along with pictures and PM's copied from her that they are telling everyone that the red car was shiny and great looking when I picked it up. I guess I should just sit here and let this picture of the car (she posted way before this thread started) be the sound proof that I have lost my freaking mind and don't know what a paint job should look like? Would you sit back after all this crap happened and then get bashed about ignorance? I think not.

Since you know so much about them and have never heard any complaints from their shop can you tell me how long they have been in business? How many cars they have painted together in the last 6 months? How many customers they have had that are happy with their paint work?

Help me out here. Maybe my cars were just a fluke? Maybe Rockstar has painted thousands of show cars and I should let them re-do mine. Heck prove to me that they do great work and I will give in and even pay for the paint. :goodjob:

P.S. Your not doing so well in their defense so far :lmfao:

[viperbite]

Just saying people are gonna take shots at you for that...:lmfao:

Far as I know Bugman was their first customer...


lol i get it now. im slow.

and i dont know about their customers so im not sure.

but ive painted some stuff with spray paint and had it turn out great. i color matched a rim with 2 dollars of spraypaint from walmart lol.

but hes painted more stuff than a couple mustangs

so yea, i dont know the whole situation. but no one in this thread sat down and ligitimately issued a Formal complaint.

so to me, it really comes off as a bunch of heresay bull s***.

pictures say a thousand words, yes, but a thousand words can explain a situation better than a picture and a bunch of c*** sucking followers talking crap.

so dont be lazy, type out exactly what happened, truthfully, every interaction, every word if at all possible, and then post the shiz up here.

i had a complaint about a "buisness man" in the past month, i said everything that was said the night of the complaint, and wrote it all down, and guess what. you know what kind of responces i got from that person? nothing. just him calling me names. he had nothing to say to what i said because it was all truth. exactly how it unfolded.

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[viperbite]

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um. okay i cant tell if youre being a **** to me in this thread. or if youre kidding. cuz you act different on 240atlanta.

[BUGMAN]

i had a complaint about a "buisness man" in the past month, i said everything that was said the night of the complaint, and wrote it all down, and guess what. you know what kind of responces i got from that person? nothing. just him calling me names. he had nothing to say to what i said because it was all truth. exactly how it unfolded.

Hey thats the same thing I did. And guess what? Your bitching about it. :lmfao:

[Echonova]

um. okay i cant tell if youre being a **** to me in this thread. or if youre kidding. cuz you act different on 240atlanta.LOL, I'm just here killing time. Not directed towards anyone.



But yes you are right. I don't whore-up 240atl. Babs would ban me if I did half of this sh*t there...LOL:goodjob:

[viperbite]

well no what im saying is that if there was nothign left to be said. nothing else would have been said...

so you didnt completely explain everything...

[redrumracer]

Emily he signed because he was told that there was nothing else going to be done. i dont blame him for coming to get it. Just use this as a lesson learned.

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[BUGMAN]

I did not post up a pic of the red car to "brag" about it, or to make it look like a show quality car. That pic is unretouched, and I just put it up so that it was a more fair judgement, seeing as the only photos people had seen of it were from 1/2 an inch a way. And as far as that car goes, you signed an invoice for it when you picked it up. Rememeber? I'm sorry if you didn't read what you signed, but that invoice said the work was done to your satisfaction. It's not my fault that you either didn't read what you signed, or didn't inspect the car fully upon delivery. Patrick agreed to buff it again and get a little more shine out of it, which is more than he should have done, but he did anyways.

If you want to mince words with Patrick about how the color was picked on the blue car, feel free to call him. You have his number. It's easy to be a keyboard commando when the situation appears to be in your favor, since I know that nothing I will ever say or do will make this disappear. All I can do is move on and concentrate on the other cars we have in the shop, which is exactly what I'm doing. Like I said, we offered you options, you can take them or leave them. The red car is a done deal, the blue one you do have options on.

We've done other work and have had no complaints, and upon realizing that this was going to be an issue, we started offering alternative lines of solution. That's the best we can do.

Did you or did you not tell me that you were going to color match it with the huge sample that you peeled off the side of the door?

Did you or did you not tell Miles (Kreep) that they were a very close match when he came and picked up the hoods?

We did inspect the car and that's when you apologized repeatedly for it being so crappy. Remember? You said that you really needed to have a talk with Patrick because the quality was not what he promised. That was also the 2nd trip which was after the invoice was signed. Remember that? Why because you told me that it was a receipt and I trusted you. Yeah I know, stupid me.

Ha Ha you know as well as I do that buffing ain't gonna fix that car. Good excuse but no help at all.

Keyboard commando? Nah I'm fine and I don't remember threatening anyone? Hm where does the Commando part fall in at?

What were the options again? Oh I remember now... Come get my crap and we are through with your junk. Man awesome options! Thanks a ton. You should do very well in life with your fine print and so much trust.

Man I love how you do business. Now everyone knows just by what you said that if they don't read your fine print they will get a shaft up their azz. Totally awesome professionalism!

[viperbite]

well i think that bugman should make a new thread, with literally everything lined up exaclty how it happened.

if you want a refrence. hahaha look at me and wes's thread about umm said "buisness man"

http://240atlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17606

[Init2winit]

I did not post up a pic of the red car to "brag" about it, or to make it look like a show quality car. That pic is unretouched, and I just put it up so that it was a more fair judgement, seeing as the only photos people had seen of it were from 1/2 an inch a way. And as far as that car goes, you signed an invoice for it when you picked it up. Rememeber? I'm sorry if you didn't read what you signed, but that invoice said the work was done to your satisfaction. It's not my fault that you either didn't read what you signed, or didn't inspect the car fully upon delivery. Patrick agreed to buff it again and get a little more shine out of it, which is more than he should have done, but he did anyways.

If you want to mince words with Patrick about how the color was picked on the blue car, feel free to call him. You have his number. It's easy to be a keyboard commando when the situation appears to be in your favor, since I know that nothing I will ever say or do will make this disappear. All I can do is move on and concentrate on the other cars we have in the shop, which is exactly what I'm doing. Like I said, we offered you options, you can take them or leave them. The red car is a done deal, the blue one you do have options on.

We've done other work and have had no complaints, and upon realizing that this was going to be an issue, we started offering alternative lines of solution. That's the best we can do.If that car came out of my shop, I wouldn't give a tinkers damn if the customer signed that agreement or not. I would not let anything of that quality leave. He shouldn't have to look over the car, your WORD should be plenty, and it apparently was not.

[SixSquared]

Emily he signed because he was told that there was nothing else going to be done. i dont blame him for coming to get it. Just use this as a lesson learned.

No.. he signed the invoice when he came to pick up the car. I told him the car was done, and it was painted. If he was not happy with the job, then he should not have signed, pointed out things that he was not happy with, and there would have been no problem at all... no hard feelings. But he DID sign, and I was very careful in the way that I worded the invoice, so it is simple and to the point. And he signed saying that the work was done to his specification (which was painting the car) and that the work was done to his satisfaction. We were not rushing him or anything when he came to pick it up, and it was broad daylight and the car was outside. He had all the opportunity in the world to inspect the car. As a business, it's not our problem that he didn't, but we worked on the car AFTER he signed it as a gesture of goodwill, and he took it and threw it right back in our faces.

[Echonova]

well i think that bugman should make a new thread, with literally everything lined up exaclty how it happened.

if you want a refrence. hahaha look at me and wes's thread about umm said "buisness man"

http://240atlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17606 There has been too many threads about this already IMO.


I think they should settle it in a cage match.

[viperbite]

haha you have alot of fun with this forum dont you?

hence why i have 100 posts here and nearly 100 rep power on 240atlanta lol

[KREEP]

in any kind of buisness transaction or relationship of any type. friend, brother, marriage, buisness partner, customer... whatever. you have to communicate. everything has to be on the table. 52 cards in the deck. la te de la te da. i dont know what all went on here but i do know patrick and emily personally. this is the first complaint about their paint ive seen. and really, the first complaint about rockstar motorsports ive heard of. let alone about patrick and emily. this complaint isnt formal at all, its a ****ty way to talk bad about someone because you have some evidence of a bad paint job. either way, the only persons reputation lost should be from the people who handled the complaint wrong. buisness is a 2 way street. and if you feel youre being dealt cards wrong. dont sit and demand stuff, sit and talk. like civil people.
So you know the sh!t work he does.............. You fail gtfo

[Echonova]

haha you have alot of fun with this forum dont you?

hence why i have 100 posts here and nearly 100 rep power on 240atlanta lolYep. I am the polar opposite. I have a rep power of like 12 there. I'm 5600+ here... LOL

[Vteckidd]

No.. he signed the invoice when he came to pick up the car. I told him the car was done, and it was painted. If he was not happy with the job, then he should not have signed, pointed out things that he was not happy with, and there would have been no problem at all... no hard feelings. But he DID sign, and I was very careful in the way that I worded the invoice, so it is simple and to the point. And he signed saying that the work was done to his specification (which was painting the car) and that the work was done to his satisfaction. We were not rushing him or anything when he came to pick it up, and it was broad daylight and the car was outside. He had all the opportunity in the world to inspect the car. As a business, it's not our problem that he didn't, but we worked on the car AFTER he signed it as a gesture of goodwill, and he took it and threw it right back in our faces.

Remember what i said 5 pages ago


I know Emilys history, and she has NO BUSINESS being apart of ANYTHING that has MOTORSPORTS in it.

Shes had a bunch of halfassed projects she runs her mouth about and none of them have amounted to anything .

I dont care about her personality, im talking about credentials of running an operating a business.

THis is BUSINESS ,its not therapy. Its not lets all be nice to each other an help out. Its cut throat.

You better know what you are doing , or you will FAIL.

SHe just doesnt have the qualifications , and now that ive seen their painter, neither does he

She may be a lovely individual personality wise, but i could give 2 sh!ts about that
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your making me speak the truth, quit now, from one business owner to another, you are not doing yourself any good

[Bruce Leroy]

No.. he signed the invoice when he came to pick up the car. I told him the car was done, and it was painted. If he was not happy with the job, then he should not have signed, pointed out things that he was not happy with, and there would have been no problem at all... no hard feelings. But he DID sign, and I was very careful in the way that I worded the invoice, so it is simple and to the point. And he signed saying that the work was done to his specification (which was painting the car) and that the work was done to his satisfaction. We were not rushing him or anything when he came to pick it up, and it was broad daylight and the car was outside. He had all the opportunity in the world to inspect the car. As a business, it's not our problem that he didn't, but we worked on the car AFTER he signed it as a gesture of goodwill, and he took it and threw it right back in our faces.


All that statement did was verify that you are just looking to make a quick buck. You don't care what kind of work comes out your shop, and thats why it wont last.

[Vteckidd]

All that statement did was verify that you are just looking to make a quick buck. You don't care what kind of work comes out your shop, and thats why it wont last.
<borat> HIGH FIVE</borat>

[BUGMAN]

No.. he signed the invoice when he came to pick up the car. I told him the car was done, and it was painted. If he was not happy with the job, then he should not have signed, pointed out things that he was not happy with, and there would have been no problem at all... no hard feelings. But he DID sign, and I was very careful in the way that I worded the invoice, so it is simple and to the point. And he signed saying that the work was done to his specification (which was painting the car) and that the work was done to his satisfaction. We were not rushing him or anything when he came to pick it up, and it was broad daylight and the car was outside. He had all the opportunity in the world to inspect the car. As a business, it's not our problem that he didn't, but we worked on the car AFTER he signed it as a gesture of goodwill, and he took it and threw it right back in our faces.

Hm so why did I bring it back after being so pleased with it? We went over everything and you said it needed to be repainted and I agreed. I had no idea that you were trying to screw me over by getting me to sign the so called receipt which was 5 minutes after you said it needed to be resprayed. I brought it back after that and you buffed it a little and told me it was really nice and to come and get it. I signed that the first time remember? Ha Ha you don't even know what your saying now. Geez get your story straight.

[quickdodge®]

but no one in this thread sat down and ligitimately issued a Formal complaint.

As I said, there's no need to. Funny every time I make sense about this issue, no one has anything to refute me with. Lolol. Later, QD.

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[Evil Goat]

I did not post up a pic of the red car to "brag" about it, or to make it look like a show quality car. That pic is unretouched, and I just put it up so that it was a more fair judgement, seeing as the only photos people had seen of it were from 1/2 an inch a way

are you serious? you have the audacity to try to act like the paint shouldnt look decent up close? you are a ****ing idiot.....do you not have any pride in what comes out of your "shop"?


And as far as that car goes, you signed an invoice for it when you picked it up. Rememeber? I'm sorry if you didn't read what you signed, but that invoice said the work was done to your satisfaction. It's not my fault that you either didn't read what you signed, or didn't inspect the car fully upon delivery. Patrick agreed to buff it again and get a little more shine out of it, which is more than he should have done, but he did anyways.

so youre admitting to swindling a customer by hiding behind some bull**** clause on an invoice? what a piece of **** you and your shop really are...seeing the pictures patrick should have agreed to repaint it, or find some other technical school paint shop grad who could atleast attempt a better job....**** buffing, repaint the ****ing car you ogre



If you want to mince words with Patrick about how the color was picked on the blue car, feel free to call him. You have his number.

do you own the shop or does he? he should be talking to the owner, if both of you are owners then you dip****s need to get together and figure out how to make this right for bug, seeing this guys painting skills would automatically let me know i shouldnt include letting him repaint any vehicle as an option to make things right...


We've done other work and have had no complaints, and upon realizing that this was going to be an issue, we started offering alternative lines of solution. That's the best we can do.

when was this? when he came to pick them up or when you all pulled the cars out with these ****astic paint jobs? are you blind, did you see the spots that were missed, the runs, etc? you and your business are a ****ing joke, you have ****ed over an upstanding member of IA, an all around good guy, and a family oriented guy to boot....you think people just have money laying around these days to fuel your bull**** dreams? there comes a time when a person must realize you are not going to succeed at a dream, i think if left alone this is the turning point where you end up moving out of your shop before the lease is up b/c you cant continue to fund a sinking ship....i mean for ****s sake i want to be a porn star, but my **** isnt big enough....so i just stick to the fat bitches

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[KREEP]

So you took advantage of a blind man? LOL

[SixSquared]

Did you or did you not tell me that you were going to color match it with the huge sample that you peeled off the side of the door?
I did, and I told Patrick to. Again, if you want to take things up with Patrick, feel free to contact him

Did you or did you not tell Miles (Kreep) that they were a very close match when he came and picked up the hoods? I didn't directly "tell" it to him. I made a comment when we were inside the shop that the difference in the two colors was much less drastic than when it was outside. I also commented when we got outside that it was ONLY inside/in reduced that they looked close-ish, and that maybe that's why the paint shop owner and Patrick thought they were close, because they were inside and working with a 1"x1" swatch

We did inspect the car and that's when you apologized repeatedly for it being so crappy. Remember? You said that you really needed to have a talk with Patrick because the quality was not what he promised. That was also the 2nd trip which was after the invoice was signed. Remember that? Why because you told me that it was a receipt and I trusted you. Yeah I know, stupid me. I actually remember saying that the invoice was saying that the work was done and to keep everything legal. I didn't say much of anything when you came to pick up the car originally, because Patrick was there and you and he were talking about the spoiler. You were already there when I got there. What I did say when it was just us when you came to pick it up after we buffed it was that I would talk to Patrick to see what we needed to do to improve the paint job quality. Patrick said what we needed to do, and we either have done it or are in the process of doing it.

Ha Ha you know as well as I do that buffing ain't gonna fix that car. Good excuse but no help at all. Which car? The red car was a little shinier afterwards, but yes, there are areas that could use a respray, which is why we offered to do just that when we got our booth up.

Keyboard commando? Nah I'm fine and I don't remember threatening anyone? Hm where does the Commando part fall in at?

What were the options again? Oh I remember now... Come get my crap and we are through with your junk. Man awesome options! Thanks a ton. You should do very well in life with your fine print and so much trust. Again, if you have issues with Patrick, take them up with him. The options we offered you were to bring both of the cars back and we would touch them up for free once we got the booth done. I re-iterated that to you when you came to tow the red car because the water pump was out, which if I recall Patrick offered to fix for you so you wouldn't have to tow it back. Funny, because the way that conversation came up between me and him was when he told me the water pump was bad, I actually said "Oh that sucks.. I should call him and see if he wants me to fix it for him so he doesn't have to tow it back" which is when Pat said that he already had. The options we offered on the blue car were to either take it as is and pay a very discounted price, or to cover the materials and we would cut it down and re-spray it when we got the booth up.

Man I love how you do business. Now everyone knows just by what you said that if they don't read your fine print they will get a shaft up their azz. Totally awesome professionalism! There's nothing fine about the print. It is right there, in size 14 font, and simply worded. I didn't hit you with pages and pages of tiny writing. I intentionally worded it simply and concisely, so that there would be no confusion about it. I would think that someone who makes and spends as much money as you do would know to read before you sign. Tell me, when you sign up for a credit card, do you just go with "oh they lend me money then I pay it back", or do you read what you sign? And there is no shafting up any asses. We did a lot of work on those cars for what you paid us, and I can guarantee that had you taken it to Sprayglo or Superior or any other privately owned shop you would have been quoted more than what you paid for a lot less work.

[VQ35 Star]

While going to school for automotive collision repair/paint I've seen people who have NEVER painted a car before make a car come out 100x better than that.

Repaint the man's car. (using another painter/prep). Send it to maaco (bc you obviously can't handle an all-over paint job.)

color matching isn't hard either, take a sample to the paint store and they will scan it with there computers and come up with an exact match. (i've done this with multple cars with different color paints)

Even if he did sign the papers, do you not have pride in what you send out of your shop? I sure as hell wouldn't be proud of those 2 cars, matter of fact if ANY cars came out of my shop like that I would personally quit doing this type of work and rethink my career.

[Mr. Clean]

this is drama-rific. good thing i had nothing else to do tonight. i think i've read all 17-18 pages from both threads.

[BobbyFresco]

<borat> HIGH FIVE</borat>



I think it was you or Ruperttaker or you posting under Ruperttaker's sn that predicted this would come to pass when she mentioned opening a shop.:lmfao:


Well done, Nostradamus.:cheers:

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[VQ35 Star]

this is drama-rific. good thing i had nothing else to do tonight. i think i've read all 17-18 pages from both threads.

Me too after I got off of work at 6. These 2 cars aren't even my cars and I'm pissed, lol. autobody shops are to improve cars not butcher them.

[ueyedgr8tness]

Well to some of u ppl that think bugman hasn't handle this in a mature way your way wrong. I am the 1 that made the 1st thread and started this,because bugman is like family to me and i was upset,he never once wanted it to get out and blow up like this. I am pretty sure those cars will never see rockstars so called "paint booth" again considering damage is done.But the fact that she is showing ppl pictures of the car after this is already over with,and she is trying to cover up there fu**up just blows my mind when every 1 has seen how the paint is on pictures. And if u guy's was to see it in person u would take it upon yourself to go buy some spray paint and make it look 100times better.

[wantboost]

that had you taken it to Sprayglo or Superior or any other privately owned shop you would have been quoted more than what you paid for a lot less work.[/b]
and gotten alot better paint job.....

[ueyedgr8tness]

OH snap bugman i see u should of read the fine print:yes:

[green91]

LOL their shop isnt to far away from somewhere im at a lot.

The fact is if you're doing work for money, you should do the best possible work and have it completed PROPERLY prior to EVER calling the customer and saying its ready.

[rupertaker]

I think it was you or Ruperttaker or you posting under Ruperttaker's sn that predicted this would come to pass when she mentioned opening a shop.:lmfao:


Well done, Nostradamus.:cheers:


It's been fun, time to close the door guys.

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wooooooah

lemme get an LS2 in my Sol

[Evil Goat]

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son of a *****....thats funny....too bad i cant rep you right now :lmfao:

[Echonova]

son of a *****....thats funny....too bad i cant rep you right now :lmfao:This is my favorite...
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[Echonova]

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[BUGMAN]

I actually remember saying that the invoice was saying that the work was done and to keep everything legal. I didn't say much of anything when you came to pick up the car originally, because Patrick was there and you and he were talking about the spoiler. You were already there when I got there. What I did say when it was just us when you came to pick it up after we buffed it was that I would talk to Patrick to see what we needed to do to improve the paint job quality. Patrick said what we needed to do, and we either have done it or are in the process of doing it. So if I was happy with the car why were we discussing the rear spoiler?

The red car was a little shinier afterwards, but yes, there are areas that could use a respray, which is why we offered to do just that when we got our booth up. Was that offer before or after Patrick told me that he was done with my junk?

The options we offered you were to bring both of the cars back and we would touch them up for free once we got the booth done. I re-iterated that to you when you came to tow the red car because the water pump was out, which if I recall Patrick offered to fix for you so you wouldn't have to tow it back. Funny, because the way that conversation came up between me and him was when he told me the water pump was bad, I actually said "Oh that sucks.. I should call him and see if he wants me to fix it for him so he doesn't have to tow it back" which is when Pat said that he already had. Do you really think I want any of you working in my engine compartment? So now you will fix them both? I think I just read where you said you had it in writing so I was screwed on that one. That was you that said that right?

The options we offered on the blue car were to either take it as is and pay a very discounted price, or to cover the materials and we would cut it down and re-spray it when we got the booth up. Are you serious? Do you remember what it looked like? Funny when I came and picked up the red car from you all you did was apologize. The blue car was already at my house and you didn't say one word about me paying anything at that time. I told you that I was out close to $800 and you said you knew and you were really sorry. I really thought you were being sincere but now I see you hide behind print trying to make a quick buck off any dumbazz that comes along. Well you found one that liked and trusted you so congratulations Maam you succeeded.

I would think that someone who makes and spends as much money as you do would know to read before you sign. One thing you will never learn and that's why I think you will never succeed in any business. Pay close attention to what I am telling you. Really.... I usually make at least $1,000 a day in deals that are on handshakes or just my word. Your respect of not holding to a deal because you have something in writing just goes to show your major fall back (other than the quality of work). Heck just today I probably made/guaranteed over $2,000 to people that I have never met and they know that I am good for it just because I said so. What is real funny. My son Austin was with me and he never questioned it. He along with many other people know that when I tell someone I will do something that is in my control it's in blood regardless of what any paper says. Don't even try to dispute that, it is something that people like you will never understand.

I just don't understand how you think your going to get anywhere back peddling this much and trying to run a business doing the same thing.

[The BUCKY]

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[Echonova]

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[Echonova]

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[BUGMAN]

After asking I found one person that said it is ok for me to post what Rockstar Motorsports Owner (Emily) sent to them.

Here ya go, what point do you think she was trying to make here?

Originally Posted by xPhantomSilviax

PS... here's a better pic of the red mustang we "ruined". Yeah... looks atrocious, huh?

That's what it looked like when it left us the first time. Chris brought it back because we had some issues with the spoiler, which we fixed and then re-buffed the entire car so it was even shinier than in that pic.

[BUGMAN]

Just the rear spoiler? I remember the drivers door being my main concern along with 30-40 other issues. I honestly don't think their is one panel on this car that would pass a Maaco approval.

Once more I will gladly point out the issues on the "GOOD" side that she chose to brag on with that message. :goodjob:

[KREEP]

Maybe they just couldn't see all the blemishes on the car. I think the painter needs glasses, Or too many years in the paint booth with no respirator....but if that was the case he would have a lot more experience and have done a better job.:2cents:

[BlueHatch]

i would personally like to commend Echonova for all the funny he has added to this thread :yay:

[X-Runner]

I just want to say this, I painted this POS in my driveway with no prior exprenice. Yeah, there is some over spray on the tire... but like I said it was my FIRST time ever painting a car.

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[KREEP]

i would personally like to commend Echonova for all the funny he has added to this thread :yay:x2 kevin you are one wild and crazy guy!

[BUGMAN]

I just want to say this, I painted this POS in my driveway with no prior exprenice. Yeah, there is some over spray on the tire... but like I said it was my FIRST time ever painting a car.

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Your hired!

Bring your Krylon cans and get your azz over here.

[Echonova]

BUGMAN[/b]]After asking I found one person that said it is ok for me to post what Rockstar Motorsports Owner (Emily) sent to them.

Here ya go, what point do you think she was trying to make here?.

xPhantomSilviax[/b]]


PS... here's a better pic of the red mustang we "ruined". Yeah... looks atrocious, huh?

That's what it looked like when it left us the first time. Chris brought it back because we had some issues with the spoiler, which we fixed and then re-buffed the entire car so it was even shinier than in that pic.http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/WTF-2.jpg

[BUGMAN]

I found out how they painted my blue car. I was wondering why it was a little spotted. :D

I have proof!

It even shows the meticulous color matching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTsHDaLXbO4

[X-Runner]

Your hired!

Bring your Krylon cans and get your azz over here.

Im on the way!

You know whats funny, the jams, all the trim (bumper, unfinished tailgate letters, grille trim, windshield/rear window trim) and grille inserts were painted with 99 cent walmart spray paint! I ran out of the red before I did the grille/headlight bezels cause I only had a gallon for the whole thing.:lmao:

[Echonova]

i would personally like to commend Echonova for all the funny he has added to this thread :yay:I was just trying to fill the time in between the serious posts.

But thanks.:goodjob:

[KREEP]

Give me a 12 pack and a spray can..........anybody????

[KREEP]

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x302/Assamite_ante/big530771.jpgWHAT WHAT ITB

[rupertaker]

I was just trying to fill the time in between the serious posts.

But thanks.:goodjob:

hey man, let me know if you still need the paint/bodywork done.

I was going to point you towards this thread but looks like you've already found it. Give Emily a call, she does awesome work.

[BlueHatch]

hey man, let me know if you still need the paint/bodywork done.

I was going to point you towards this thread but looks like you've already found it. Give Emily a call, she does awesome work.
:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[Echonova]

hey man, let me know if you still need the paint/bodywork done.

I was going to point you towards this thread but looks like you've already found it. Give Emily a call, she does awesome work.Is tomorrow Taco Mac night? I keep forgetting which day it is...:(

[HiPSI]

Ok I am still trying to figure out wtf that door means. And damn come on buy a clean shop lol. Even if this was a kickass business the look of it would make me take my money elsewhere.

the look of a shop doesn't necessarily mean bad business. a buddy of mine started out painting cars out of his garage in a crappy little house. the difference comes in your work and business ethics. he would not let a car leave until it was perfect, and he would verify with the customer before he let anything go. if they had concerns, he did whatever it took to make it right even if it seemed unreasonable at times. his work was stunning on a bad day, but he had a perfectionist attitude because that's what customers expect. needless to say he's still in business just in a real deal shop and still turning out amazing work.

[RetiredBob]

I know something of this situation between the Bugman and Rockstar Motor Sports. The only thing I want to say is that this whole thing has escalated to a point that a resolution is going to be hard to come to. Some people on this post obviously have a problem with Emily and are using this thread to vent their hate. Others do not have first hand knowledge of the situation and are jumping on the bandwagon for no apparent reason other than to say something negative. I know that Rockstar MotorSports is a very new business and I am sure that Bugman had good intentions when he brought his cars to them. I think that both parties wanted it to work out......but there were problems. This happens in at lot of businesses. This thread certainly has not helped either party and in fact solidified the hard feelings between the two parties. What good is that? It only hurts the struggling new business and creates even more animosity between former friends. Maybe its time to stop this destructive direction and offer some helpful suggestions.

[Echonova]

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LOL.Kidding



Goodnight everyone.

[Mr. Clean]

this is IA... not drphil.com... what did either party expect?

[redrumracer]

I know something of this situation between the Bugman and Rockstar Motor Sports. The only thing I want to say is that this whole thing has escalated to a point that a resolution is going to be hard to come to. Some people on this post obviously have a problem with Emily and are using this thread to vent their hate. Others do not have first hand knowledge of the situation and are jumping on the bandwagon for no apparent reason other than to say something negative. I know that Rockstar MotorSports is a very new business and I am sure that Bugman had good intentions when he brought his cars to them. I think that both parties wanted it to work out......but there were problems. This happens in at lot of businesses. This thread certainly has not helped either party and in fact solidified the hard feelings between the two parties. What good is that? It only hurts the struggling new business and creates even more animosity between former friends. Maybe its time to stop this destructive direction and offer some helpful suggestions.
Ill assume your her dad, I think IMO that the thing that really hurt this was what Patrick(i believe thats his name) said to Bugman. I'm pretty sure the bad quality didn't help, but the discussion between them two is what i believe resulted in all of this. By all means Bugman correct me if im wrong but just callin it like i see it.

[Thighs]

i have kept up with this drama throughout the day, and i have seen the pics.

yes, bugmans pics were all close shots, but isnt that what you look at when you pick up a car from paint? the details...? it seems like those dont matter to rockstar.

and if ANYBODY really thinks the paint on either car could EVER be worth ANY money, whether it be materials or labor or ANYTHING they are completely out of their mind. i could do better with discount walmart paint, as many others could do.

RSM is obviously in the wrong, they have been called out on it, and all they have done is hide behind their fine print BS on the invoice and phantomsilvia has directed any problems bugman has had with the paint to the painter, basically evading the questions/concerns of bugman, and we ALL know that to run a business you have to be honest and responsible for any and all actions taken by any employee or aspect of your business. its called professionalism, and RSM has none.

its sad that a 19 year old kid who has never owned a business knows all these things, but at LEAST 2 people from RSM cant figure it out...

[redrumracer]

Ill assume your her dad, I think IMO that the thing that really hurt this was what Patrick(i believe thats his name) said to Bugman. I'm pretty sure the bad quality didn't help, but the discussion between them two is what i believe resulted in all of this. By all means Bugman correct me if im wrong but just callin it like i see it.
well that and the after fact that talking behind backs was going on.

[BlueHatch]

^nasty storms comin in huh

[yogi08]

Damnit I wish IA would be fast and show everything on my cellphone, id be all over this **** all day long! hahahaha. Glad to see nobodys being threatend! IA can get kinda crazy at times!

[chrisdavis]

Who is the actual owner of this shop?

She keeps saying take it up with the painter, is this a partnership or is only one of them the actual owner. If your painter is not a partner in the business, then he should have absolutely no say in the matter. His job is to prep and paint, not argue with customers.

With this being a new shop, there should have been a lot more pride taken into the work done to the red mustang. Not only for the sake of satisfying a customer, but help build a solid reputation as a competent place to do business.


Just remember that a happy customer will tell all his friends. An unhappy customer will tell everyone.

[yogi08]

^nasty storms comin in huh
sure is man, i just drove into town with one windsheild whipper cause the car i just picked up only had one! LMAO:goodjob:

[BlueHatch]

I know something of this situation between the Bugman and Rockstar Motor Sports. The only thing I want to say is that this whole thing has escalated to a point that a resolution is going to be hard to come to. Some people on this post obviously have a problem with Emily and are using this thread to vent their hate. Others do not have first hand knowledge of the situation and are jumping on the bandwagon for no apparent reason other than to say something negative. I know that Rockstar MotorSports is a very new business and I am sure that Bugman had good intentions when he brought his cars to them. I think that both parties wanted it to work out......but there were problems. This happens in at lot of businesses. This thread certainly has not helped either party and in fact solidified the hard feelings between the two parties. What good is that? It only hurts the struggling new business and creates even more animosity between former friends. Maybe its time to stop this destructive direction and offer some helpful suggestions.
many helpful suggestions i.e. take responsibilty for your work, take care of your customer, so on... have been offered multiple times but when the finger pointing starts, you better put on your flame suit around here. i dont think anybody had anything bad to say about her personally just the quality of the work done by a company she appearantly represents. my father would beat me if i charged someone for a paint job and sent them home with that.


ps. were you really born in 1945?

[BUGMAN]

I know something of this situation between the Bugman and Rockstar Motor Sports. The only thing I want to say is that this whole thing has escalated to a point that a resolution is going to be hard to come to. Some people on this post obviously have a problem with Emily and are using this thread to vent their hate. Others do not have first hand knowledge of the situation and are jumping on the bandwagon for no apparent reason other than to say something negative. I know that Rockstar MotorSports is a very new business and I am sure that Bugman had good intentions when he brought his cars to them. I think that both parties wanted it to work out......but there were problems. This happens in at lot of businesses. This thread certainly has not helped either party and in fact solidified the hard feelings between the two parties. What good is that? It only hurts the struggling new business and creates even more animosity between former friends. Maybe its time to stop this destructive direction and offer some helpful suggestions.

I agree 100% but like I said before, I think we are done doing business. I have taken 4 cars to Maaco since then and have no stress dealing with them. I took 2 cars to them and look what I am in the middle of now. Maaco painted 4 and have 12 more in line and do me just fine. I probably should have stuck with them in the first place but apparently I am a no reading dumbazz and didn't know any better.


Who is the actual owner of this shop?

She keeps saying take it up with the painter, is this a partnership or is only one of them the actual owner. If your painter is not a partner in the business, then he should have absolutely no say in the matter. His job is to prep and paint, not argue with customers.

This is where I keep getting confused. I made the original deal with her and then with him and then her again and then he and I agreed on a few things and then she met me to pick up the car. Then she apologized several times and said she was going to have words with the painter and now I am told that I need to take it up with him???

I can't even tell you how confused I am. Did I miss some details? Heck yeah but in all the confusion I started getting dizzy and just quit trying to figure it out.


I think IMO that the thing that really hurt this was what Patrick(i believe thats his name) said to Bugman. I'm pretty sure the bad quality didn't help, but the discussion between them two is what i believe resulted in all of this. By all means Bugman correct me if im wrong but just callin it like i see it.

Again this is where I am really confused. He told me that we were through doing business, she said she would get it fixed, then I should of read the fine print, then it is my own fault and now they will repaint the blue one after I pay the discounted price of the paint for the first job that turned out disastrous. Now can anyone see why I am confused?


P.S. I refuse to read fine print on everything that I sign. I will continue to make deals on a hand shake and yes I may get burned again but it will never happen twice by the same people. ;)

[X-Runner]

I agree 100% but like I said before, I think we are done doing business.

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[SixSquared]

Patrick is my painter and partner. On paper everything is me, but shop decisions are made by he and I. I did talk to him.. I asked him what we needed to do to make sure paintjobs would get better. He told me, and as I said before, those things have either been rectified or are in the process of being rectified. I also told Chris that if he wanted to bring the cars back when we had a booth we would repair them. Chris has never gotten back to me on that except saying that he thinks we are done doing business. If that is the case, I am sorry, but there's nothing more I can do. If your steak at a restaurant comes out too rare for you, the manager offers to bring it back and cook it up to the well done that you wanted it, and you say "no I'll just eat it", then that's your decision. But that doesn't put you in a position to write a letter to the newspaper saying the restaurant is horrible and doesn't know how to cook a steak.

[ueyedgr8tness]

I know something of this situation between the Bugman and Rockstar Motor Sports. The only thing I want to say is that this whole thing has escalated to a point that a resolution is going to be hard to come to. Some people on this post obviously have a problem with Emily and are using this thread to vent their hate. Others do not have first hand knowledge of the situation and are jumping on the bandwagon for no apparent reason other than to say something negative. I know that Rockstar MotorSports is a very new business and I am sure that Bugman had good intentions when he brought his cars to them. I think that both parties wanted it to work out......but there were problems. This happens in at lot of businesses. This thread certainly has not helped either party and in fact solidified the hard feelings between the two parties. What good is that? It only hurts the struggling new business and creates even more animosity between former friends. Maybe its time to stop this destructive direction and offer some helpful suggestions.





I really hope you didn't just make your 1st post in this thread:thinking: And if you are emily dad welcome to IA and u wouldnt happen to have a son name "thacker" would u?

On the other hand i don't even no emily never even met her in my life.What i have put together was just pure truth in how she let the car leave her shop looking like it did,and the fact that she is sending pics to other ppl trying to say there is nothing wrong with it:no: I really thought she was a grown women suppose to be putting a handle on this but seems like to me she is pushing it off on some 1 else like a child.

I really hope you didn't come on here just to back her up considering she is known for getting other ppl banned on 240atlanta for doing bad business.Now she should no how other ppl feel when there done wrong,its pretty simple right is right and wrong is wrong, and you sir considering you where born in 1945 should no where bad business gets you:goodjob:

[SixSquared]

And as far as "fine print" goes... Like I said.. I didn't hit you with a ton of paperwork. It's a simple disclosure at the bottom of the invoice. If I personally said I would paint a valve cover for you or something, that's a handshake kind of deal. This is a business, however, and we use invoices to track money coming into the shop and also to form contracts with customers.

[SixSquared]

I really hope you didn't just make your 1st post in this thread:thinking: And if you are emily dad welcome to IA and u wouldnt happen to have a son name "thacker" would u?

On the other hand i don't even no emily never even met her in my life.What i have put together was just pure truth in how she let the car leave her shop looking like it did,and the fact that she is sending pics to other ppl trying to say there is nothing wrong with it:no: I really thought she was a grown women suppose to be putting a handle on this but seems like to me she is pushing it off on some 1 else like a child.

I really hope you didn't come on here just to back her up considering she is known for getting other ppl banned on 240atlanta for doing bad business.Now she should no how other ppl feel when there done wrong,its pretty simple right is right and wrong is wrong, and you sir considering you where born in 1945 should no where bad business gets you:goodjob:

Yes, he is my dad. I'm "known for getting people banned on 240atlanta for doing bad business"? Your problem is that you just don't know when to stop and check your facts, and would rather state things based on rumor and one person's account instead of gathering all your facts. That's what happened with the mustangs, and that's obviously what happened with your statement about 240Atlanta. You wanna know why I got ONE PERSON banned off there? Because Yogi was harassing my friend Abby. Continuously. And I'm not just talking about annoying her on the forums. I'm talking about borderline stalking her and making her feel really uneasy, because he would insinuate that because he was near her (they both live in/near Statesboro) that it didn't matter that her boyfriend was overseas protecting our country and that they could fxck around. THAT'S why I played a hand in getting him banned. And I called him out because he was straight up lying about the condition of a car he was selling on there. That's all.

Again, I will say that I did not post my picture of Chris's car to try and say that it is a show-winning paint job, or that it's flawless. I posted it so that people would see the car as a whole, not just the zoomed in imperfections. I didn't "plan" that shot or lay it out or wait for the light... it was outside cause I had washed and dried it and I thought "oh I would take a pic before it leaves". nothing to do with "best possible angle" or "best possible light".

[Maniacc]

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Do you fvcking call this a shop?? A Place of business? FAWK NO!
Haha, looks nothing like a shop to me. Just some over weight people enjoying some greasy food and soda instead of drinking water and actually working on cars. The place also looks like garbage. Like something high school kids would use as a smoke out house. Yogi delivered 100% pwnage with this post. Repped!

[BUGMAN]

I also told Chris that if he wanted to bring the cars back when we had a booth we would repair them. Chris has never gotten back to me on that except saying that he thinks we are done doing business.

That's not what your "Partner told me". :thinking:


No.. he signed the invoice when he came to pick up the car. I told him the car was done, and it was painted. If he was not happy with the job, then he should not have signed, pointed out things that he was not happy with, and there would have been no problem at all... no hard feelings. But he DID sign, and I was very careful in the way that I worded the invoice, so it is simple and to the point. And he signed saying that the work was done to his specification (which was painting the car) and that the work was done to his satisfaction. He had all the opportunity in the world to inspect the car.

You continue to contradict yourself. :thinking:


And as far as that car goes, you signed an invoice for it when you picked it up. Rememeber? I'm sorry if you didn't read what you signed, but that invoice said the work was done to your satisfaction. It's not my fault that you either didn't read what you signed, or didn't inspect the car fully upon delivery.

So I was the first one to say that we were through doing business? :thinking:



. I'm willing to forego the $300 in paint and materials that you basically stiffed us on for the blue car. If you want to make that big a deal about it, fine, keep it. It's yours. However, I am not about to refund you anything, based on the fact that Patrick and I BOTH offered you further services, which you declined, and offered you 2 options on the blue car, which you declined. We left the ball in your court, and you packed it up and went home with it. All of the offers that we made to you DO still stand, if you wish to think them over. But that's your choice.

End of story.

You would really expect someone to pay for that?

So now you want to repaint them? Remember what your painter told me? You may want to check with him before you make offers like that. :thinking:


Invoices made AND signed for on red car, stating that the work we did is done to customer's specification AND satisfaction. Blue car we didn't make one.

So now I signed and it is all over? :thinking:

Now I see why I am so freaking confused. You need to make up your mind. This going back and forth and consulting with your partner and me needing to talk to your painter, etc. is really truly confusing me.

I was stupid and trusted you by signing the paper. You have made that plain and clear. Your painter/partner made it clear that we were through doing business. Now you change it all around and it is making my head hurt.


It's OK that everyone @ Rockstar thinks I am an azzhole...

Do you by any chance remember how we met? :no:

Oh and tell Alan we always stop for people on the side of the road and will continue to do so. Kinda like the hand shake deal thing, something else you just wouldn't understand.

[yogi08]

I'm "known for getting people banned on 240atlanta for doing bad business"? Your problem is that you just don't know when to stop and check your facts, and would rather state things based on rumor and one person's account instead of gathering all your facts. That's what happened with the mustangs, and that's obviously what happened with your statement about 240Atlanta. You wanna know why I got ONE PERSON banned off there? Because Yogi was harassing my friend Abby. Continuously. And I'm not just talking about annoying her on the forums. I'm talking about borderline stalking her and making her feel really uneasy, because he would insinuate that because he was near her (they both live in/near Statesboro) that it didn't matter that her boyfriend was overseas protecting our country and that they could fxck around. THAT'S why I played a hand in getting him banned. And I called him out because he was straight up lying about the condition of a car he was selling on there. That's all.

You are clearly a DUMBA$$. I told her dozens of times in joking manner AT THAT, "haha your boyfriends probaly cool... he protects our country". And since you probably dont know I bet you wouldn't know im considering going to the millitary HUH? When armed forces members join on IA I ALWAYS mention "thanks for your service" as I do in person when I come in contact with someone of that sort. If i wasnt pushed for time, id mention so much more than youd believe I knew. Just watch what you post you fatass hog, remember... your "shops" reputation is ruined just like a whore's cooter :goodjob: . Also, you ruin it everytime you call it a "shop" and everytime you post on here.

[X-Runner]

Do you by any chance remember how we met? :no:

That should be a good story...

[yogi08]

That should be a good story...
X2 hahahaha

Damn, ive gotten a **** ton of + reps from this thread LOL.

Gotta go, ill check back tomorrow after work of if this hog has finally made a post with truth in it :rolleyes:

[chrisdavis]

Patrick is my painter and partner. On paper everything is me, but shop decisions are made by he and I. I did talk to him.. I asked him what we needed to do to make sure paintjobs would get better. He told me, and as I said before, those things have either been rectified or are in the process of being rectified. I also told Chris that if he wanted to bring the cars back when we had a booth we would repair them. Chris has never gotten back to me on that except saying that he thinks we are done doing business. If that is the case, I am sorry, but there's nothing more I can do. If your steak at a restaurant comes out too rare for you, the manager offers to bring it back and cook it up to the well done that you wanted it, and you say "no I'll just eat it", then that's your decision. But that doesn't put you in a position to write a letter to the newspaper saying the restaurant is horrible and doesn't know how to cook a steak.


If the chef came out of the kitchen yelling and cursing at you for not being satisfied would you let him touch your food while you couldnt see him?

[BUGMAN]

If the chef came out of the kitchen yelling and cursing at you for not being satisfied would you let him touch your food while you couldn't see him?

It seems that all of the valid points are being ignored completely.

I don't see this resolving anything but at least now I see where everything stands between us. I wasn't quite sure before this thread so thanks IA.

[BUGMAN]

DP

[SixSquared]

If the chef came out of the kitchen yelling and cursing at you for not being satisfied would you let him touch your food while you couldnt see him?

If you're insinuating that we would do something malicious to Chris's cars if he brings him back, then you are sorely mistaken.

If you guys wanna ***** about the appearance of my shop, talk to my landlord.. he does the grass cutting/debris stuff. Then again, he's like 80 so we don't really raise a fuss if stuff hangs out.

And about people sitting around instead of working... oh yeah.. that was our grand opening party that so many of you came out to, scarfed down meals we provided, and had not a negative word to say.

[ueyedgr8tness]

Yes, he is my dad. I'm "known for getting people banned on 240atlanta for doing bad business"? Your problem is that you just don't know when to stop and check your facts, and would rather state things based on rumor and one person's account instead of gathering all your facts. That's what happened with the mustangs, and that's obviously what happened with your statement about 240Atlanta. You wanna know why I got ONE PERSON banned off there? Because Yogi was harassing my friend Abby. Continuously. And I'm not just talking about annoying her on the forums. I'm talking about borderline stalking her and making her feel really uneasy, because he would insinuate that because he was near her (they both live in/near Statesboro) that it didn't matter that her boyfriend was overseas protecting our country and that they could fxck around. THAT'S why I played a hand in getting him banned. And I called him out because he was straight up lying about the condition of a car he was selling on there. That's all.

Again, I will say that I did not post my picture of Chris's car to try and say that it is a show-winning paint job, or that it's flawless. I posted it so that people would see the car as a whole, not just the zoomed in imperfections. I didn't "plan" that shot or lay it out or wait for the light... it was outside cause I had washed and dried it and I thought "oh I would take a pic before it leaves". nothing to do with "best possible angle" or "best possible light".









LOL!! c this is why i am glad i dont no u:yes: Now this is when it gets personal because now this is a personal matter,u would of been better off not paying attn to me because shi* just got a little worse:police: I love the fact of some of the statements u made so how about we start with this 1.

[QUOTE=xPhantomSilviax]Yes, he is my dad. I'm "known for getting people banned on 240atlanta for doing bad business"? Your problem is that you just don't know when to stop and check your facts, and would rather state things based on rumor and one person's account instead of gathering all your facts.---------------------------Now watch her pwn herself righ here after saying that--------->THAT'S why I played a hand in getting him banned. And I called him out because he was straight up lying about the condition of a car he was selling on there. That's all.



STAY_UP [/quotes}DID I MISS SOMETHING?? YOu just stated you called him out for doing bad business about because he was lying about the condition of a car:thinking: Your right that is bad business and what you did was bad business thats why u got called out, makes since now don't it:yes: .


NExt topic----->[QUOTE=xPhantomSilviax]You wanna know why I got ONE PERSON banned off there? Because Yogi was harassing my friend Abby. Continuously. And I'm not just talking about annoying her on the forums. I'm talking about borderline stalking her and making her feel really uneasy, because he would insinuate that because he was near her (they both live in/near Statesboro) that it didn't matter that her boyfriend was overseas protecting our country and that they could fxck around.


NOw your dad say's [/quote retiredbob] Some people on this post obviously have a problem with Emily and are using this thread to vent their hate.


STAY_UP[/QUOTES]Sounds like to me your got some 1 banned on another forum because u had a personal problem with them:yes:



STAY_UP[/quotes]and last but not least, U came in 1 of my threads talking shi* because i said something about girls leaving guy's to be with other girls.My thread was directed at guy's not taking care of there women and u had to come in and leave your personal feeling on the floor. LOL!! check this out--->[QUOTE=xPhantomSilviax]Yes, he is my dad:lmfao: goes to prove u wrong in my other thread u wanted to trash. No matter how u say god made u to be lesbo and that u don't need men u some how still end up needing to bring a men in to back u up:lmfao: I thought u girls didn't need guy's :thinking: now sit there and choke in yo on smoke and take all night to think about how u just made a a$$ out of yourself:goodjob: sry don't no u nore your dad but bringing your dad in to fix something u fuc*ed up is never going to get u business. remember your no pushover your kindness is not weakness u just need some new glasses and some 1 that no how to paint:iaowns:

[Killswitch Performance]

the look of a shop doesn't necessarily mean bad business. a buddy of mine started out painting cars out of his garage in a crappy little house. the difference comes in your work and business ethics. he would not let a car leave until it was perfect, and he would verify with the customer before he let anything go. if they had concerns, he did whatever it took to make it right even if it seemed unreasonable at times. his work was stunning on a bad day, but he had a perfectionist attitude because that's what customers expect. needless to say he's still in business just in a real deal shop and still turning out amazing work.

^^ You talking about Kyle?

Tyler

[SixSquared]

And I don't know what you're getting at about stopping on the side of the road to help people? I saw someone across the road when Chris dropped his del Sol off and he and I went across the road to see if he needed help, and told him that we would get him some powerade for him and his son if he wanted, since we were right across the street. Soooo yeah I dunno what your point on that one is. If you wanna talk to Alan, talk to him. If you wanna talk to Patrick, talk to him... You don't need me to be your messenger.

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

All I know is that I will never take my car to Sh1tstar Motorsports.

[SixSquared]

LOL!! c this is why i am glad i dont no u:yes: Now this is when it gets personal because now this is a personal matter,u would of been better off not paying attn to me because shi* just got a little worse:police: I love the fact of some of the statements u made so how about we start with this 1.

[QUOTE=xPhantomSilviax]Yes, he is my dad. I'm "known for getting people banned on 240atlanta for doing bad business"? Your problem is that you just don't know when to stop and check your facts, and would rather state things based on rumor and one person's account instead of gathering all your facts.---------------------------Now watch her pwn herself righ here after saying that--------->THAT'S why I played a hand in getting him banned. And I called him out because he was straight up lying about the condition of a car he was selling on there. That's all.



DID I MISS SOMETHING?? YOu just stated you called him out for doing bad business about because he was lying about the condition of a car:thinking: Your right that is bad business and what you did was bad business thats why u got called out, makes since now don't it:yes: .


NExt topic----->[QUOTE=xPhantomSilviax]You wanna know why I got ONE PERSON banned off there? Because Yogi was harassing my friend Abby. Continuously. And I'm not just talking about annoying her on the forums. I'm talking about borderline stalking her and making her feel really uneasy, because he would insinuate that because he was near her (they both live in/near Statesboro) that it didn't matter that her boyfriend was overseas protecting our country and that they could fxck around.


NOw your dad say's [/quote retiredbob] Some people on this post obviously have a problem with Emily and are using this thread to vent their hate.


Sounds like to me your got some 1 banned on another forum because u had a personal problem with them:yes:



and last but not least, U came in 1 of my threads talking shi* because i said something about girls leaving guy's to be with other girls.My thread was directed at guy's not taking care of there women and u had to come in and leave your personal feeling on the floor. LOL!! check this out--->[QUOTE=xPhantomSilviax]Yes, he is my dad:lmfao: goes to prove u wrong in my other thread u wanted to trash. No matter how u say god made u to be lesbo and that u don't need men u some how still end up needing to bring a men in to back u up:lmfao: I thought u girls didn't need guy's :thinking: now sit there and choke in yo on smoke and take all night to think about how u just made a a$$ out of yourself:goodjob: sry don't no u nore your dad but bringing your dad in to fix something u fuc*ed up is never going to get u business. remember your no pushover your kindness is not weakness u just need some new glasses and some 1 that no how to paint:iaowns:

My dad has been a member on here for a while.. he was looking for a new car and I got tired of him logging in using my sn so I helped him make his own. I don't need him to fight my fights for me, and I don't see how my sexuality has anything to do with this?? Then again, I can barely make heads or tails of your fxcked up jibberish.

[BUGMAN]

talk to my landlord.. he does the grass cutting/debris stuff.

Talk to the painter, talk to the landlord, etc. This is what I meant earlier about you having the balls to run a business. Take responsibility for something please. Anything just take it and defend it. Make a stand for something.

You have dodged, back peddled, ignored, pointed fingers, called out ignorance and even blamed me for the red car leaving your shop in the condition it did. Not once have you accepted any responsibility for anything or stood up for anything. Geez girl when ya gonna learn? If ya don't stick to something or stand for anything then you become nothing.

You need to look back at every time you changed your suggestions and pick one to stick with and stay there!

[ueyedgr8tness]

[/quotexPhantomSilviax]
My dad has been a member on here for a while.. he was looking for a new car and I got tired of him logging in using my sn so I helped him make his own. I don't need him to fight my fights for me, and I don't see how my sexuality has anything to do with this?? Then again, I can barely make heads or tails of your fxcked up jibberish.[/QUOTE]



LOl your right it does suck that i can't type,spell nor do i have any grammer.But what is really fu**ed up that is a mid school dropout can do better paint jobs and business than you will ever do.


On top of that i don't mind saying i am wrong and taking the blaim,but you wow!! thats another story because all i have ever heard was its soandso fault,when u was the 1 that made the deal with chris.


P.s most dumba$$es can't make out common since thats why u didn't understand a damn thing i said. NOw where is my drink yogi:cheers:

[BUGMAN]

If you wanna talk to Alan, talk to him. If you wanna talk to Patrick, talk to him... You don't need me to be your messenger.

I don't need help talking to anyone, it was a point and apparently you will never get it anyway. Kinda like the hand shake thing, the quality thing, the customer thing, blaming everyone else but yourself thing, etc. Geez.

So you remember how we met?

[BUGMAN]

My dad has been a member on here for a while.. [/QUOTE]
Join Date: 07-16-2008

Yeah that's a while alright.

1st post was in here? :thinking:

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[ueyedgr8tness]

My dad has been a member on here for a while..

1st post was in here? :thinking:[/QUOTE]


its ok we have all seen that she sucks at lieing:yes:

[SixSquared]

I have stood by everything I said, Chris. I admitted that we took the cars in before we were ready to paint. We did. I personally told you that we would re-visit it when we had the booth up. Before you even came and got the blue car, you were talking about maybe holding off on bringing us another one until after the booth was off, and I agreed that was a good idea. If you have words to mince with Patrick, then take it up with him. He is a grown man, you are a grown man. If he said something to you that made you unhappy, don't expect me to play messenger for you.

My landlord IS in charge of the groundskeeping at the shop. We cut our own grass and stuff because we wanted to, but as far as clearing trees and whatnot, we weren't sure which trees he wanted to keep and which ones he didn't. Last week he came in and bulldozed the whole thing. So we said "ok!".

You want me to take responsibility? I have. I know what our mistakes were. Patrick and I have gone over them, and we either have them fixed, or are working on it. How many times I have to say that before it sticks is beyond me, but I will say it until it does. I have been ignoring people's attacks on Patrick because they are stupid comments that are made about someone who isn't even on this forum to defend himself. Pointing fingers? Isn't that what you did when you started this whole he said/she said catastrophe? If you really were that concerned about what I was saying, ask me. My phone is on me 24/7. It hasn't rang once. I find that interesting. In fact, you haven't talked to me directly since the day you picked up the blue car. The original thread that stay_up made was made quite a bit after that. If you were that upset about it, why didn't I hear from you? Not like you don't know how to get in touch with me.

What I do wonder is how the hell yogi would know things that only you knew. Hmmm... and I wonder how he got those pics. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

[SixSquared]

1st post was in here? :thinking:


its ok we have all seen that she sucks at lieing:yes:[/QUOTE]

I pointed him to the thread because he asked what I was upset about. He felt compelled to post. He didn't make an sn on here to talk to people.. he made it so he could see attached pics of cars. Check his join date, if you're so concerned.

[GGPIS3]

If ya don't stick to something or stand for anything then you become nothing


dont wanna get in the middle of this... but if you are nothing to begin with how can you become nothing? is there such a thing as nothing squared? lol

[ueyedgr8tness]

^ I can answer that for him.. I personal don't think he planned to do business with u after u release the cars looking the way they did.I made the thread because i thought he was done wrong.he was done with it and ready to pay some 1 else to fix the problems because why would he take it back to u again if you couldn't do it right the 1st time after being promised even more work if u done it right.


SO get it straight i was the 1 that brought it up, and i see why he was doenw ith dealing with u. considering there hasd been to threads long as fu** and u still don't get the point. HANGIT UP BEFORE YOU RUIN SOME i ELSES CAR AND THEY DON"T USE THE NET TO PROVE THERE POINT!!

[BUGMAN]

Before you even came and got the blue car, you were talking about maybe holding off on bringing us another one until after the booth was off, Yeah after I saw the red car. What would you have done? If you have words to mince with Patrick, then take it up with him. He is a grown man, you are a grown man. If he said something to you that made you unhappy, don't expect me to play messenger for you. Once again no one is asking you to play messenger but the deal was between us remember? Why do you keep trying to send me to everyone else?

Pointing fingers? Isn't that what you did when you started this whole he said/she said catastrophe? Who needs to point fingers here? I know who did the work on my cars. If you really were that concerned about what I was saying, ask me. My phone is on me 24/7. But I already signed the paper. Geez. It hasn't rang once. I find that interesting. In fact, you haven't talked to me directly since the day you picked up the blue car. Why do we need to talk since Rockstar is doone doing business with me? The original thread that stay_up made was made quite a bit after that. If you were that upset about it, why didn't I hear from you? Not like you don't know how to get in touch with me. And what could you do? Your painter/partner refused to do any more work for me.

What I do wonder is how the hell yogi would know things that only you knew. Like what? and I wonder how he got those pics. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. Ask Yogi who had the pictures first? I still have the email where he forwarded them to me several days before he posted them on here. You think he is the only one that doesn't hold a high opinion of you? You'd be surprised if you knew where they came from.

Your assumptions are not going very well so far. But your welcome to keep trying.

[BUGMAN]

dont wanna get in the middle of this... but if you are nothing to begin with how can you become nothing? is there such a thing as nothing squared? lol

Hm. :thinking:

[ueyedgr8tness]

its ok we have all seen that she sucks at lieing:yes:

I pointed him to the thread because he asked what I was upset about. He felt compelled to post. He didn't make an sn on here to talk to people.. he made it so he could see attached pics of cars. Check his join date, if you're so concerned.[/QUOTE]


im sry i couldn't read that fake lesbo shi* ,U no us real humans like the real thing no need to type in that lesbo shi* because straight ppl want understand it:goodjob:


this has went personal,told u shouldn't have made a comment towards me:no:

[ueyedgr8tness]

1.33 am I am done with this thread and must say its been fun dishing some ppl there own medicine. Must i say i don't hate any 1 no matter how me have different feelings on doing business or personal problems.I am easy to get alone with but don't like to see friends or family get fuc*ed over.till the next paint job comes out and looks like shi* i am done :)

[BobbyFresco]

This is a prime example of what is wrong with society today. People are all too willing to pass the blame off on someone else or on b.s circumstances. One would think that in a situation where you're trying to get a business off the ground that you would do anything to rectify these issues and not resort to falling back on technicalities. Is this the kind of impression that you want others to have of your business?That you put out shoddy work and then hide behind invoices and contracts? Not only that but then there is the issue of pride in one's work. How can you be satisfied with putting out half assed work that is a representation of your business and your capabilites? How do YOU, as the OWNER OF YOUR BUSINESS, not want to tackle this problem head on? Why would YOU direct a customer to deal with the painter of YOUR BUSINESS when it should be YOU THAT TAKES THE INITIATIVE TO HANDLE PROBLEMS THAT ARE INEVITABLY GOING TO FALL BACK ON YOU?


This should be a lesson to you for all future dealings should anyone choose to entrust you with any kind of automotive work. Since it seems that much of your focus is on aftermarket modifications, which is already a shaky niche to be starting a business in anyway, you'll be lucky to get any business after a quagmire like this...:no: