Obama's Not Exactlys

[Evolunchbox]

1.) Selma Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe
enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as
Selma was in 1965. (Google'Obama Selma' for his full March 4,
2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.)

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a
privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan
Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY, he
was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has
ever had.

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT
EXACTLY, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting
to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first
widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American
but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your
half-brother, Abongo Obama, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your
New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out
the following link for verification of that....and for more.

Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and
tried to get Sharia muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the
elections, his followers have burned Christians' homes and then burned
men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took
shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here
started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to
know
the truth.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT
EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own
interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been
one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is
Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means
'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he
would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black
President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side
and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While
Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya, his father's family
was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African
Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states
he's Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more....go to.....
http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtml?Barack_
Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-American,_only_6.25%25_African

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it
daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that
faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run
for office. 4-3-08 Article "Obama was 'quite religious in
islam'"
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you
were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic
Studies for making faces (check your own book).
February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a
year ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to
prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed
delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks),
Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as "one of the prettiest
sounds on Earth at sunset." This is just one example of what Pamela
is talking about when she says "Obama's narrative is being altered,
enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts."

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one
teacher says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign
Experience - NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and
couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the
Koran and watch cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY, except
for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have
never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience
with our closest allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT
EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no
mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your
classmates said you were just fine.

13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT
EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It
doesn't, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life -
NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your
book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - NOT
EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not
have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

16.) Voting "Present" is Common In Illinois
Senate - NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have
130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Misvoted - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by
church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY, you were a
senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were
a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT
EXACTLY, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY, it
took just 14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill
was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all
regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which
David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, as of
March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be
released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT
EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld
Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY,
your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which
lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY,
even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY,
they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their
creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher
office.

28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA -
NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the
conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the
Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali
Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.

30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT EXACTLY, you said let
the delegates decide.

31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer
caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote,
and only operate during small windows of time.

32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NOT EXACTLY,
you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NOT EXACTLY, you
used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

34.) I Don't Take PAC Money - NOT EXACTLY, you take
loads of it.

35.) I don't Have Lobbyists - NOT EXACTLY, you have
over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT
EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one
afternoon.

37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - NOT EXACTLY, you
weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it
every single time.

38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT
EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't
have to buy it

39.) My uncle liberated Auschwitz concentration camp - NOT EXACTLY, your mother had no brothers and the Russan army did the liberating.

[Vteckidd]

+1

[BKgen®]

WTF FONT

[Total_Blender]

repost

[Evolunchbox]

repost

Damn! Oh well... I was bored.:boobies:

[Ran]

lol, nice.

[Crazy Asian]

Bahahah he was whipped.

[BobbyFresco]

More anti Obama propaganda.....*yawn*

[willum14pb]

good read!

[Turbo Terrance]

More anti Obama propaganda.....*yawn*

They are AFRAID...

[The Ninja]

More anti Obama propaganda.....*yawn*

QFT

Yet, the VIDEOS I posted of McCain and his ... "issues"... got little/no attention.

[redrumracer]

that color man, wtf is up with the color of the text?

[ShooterMcGavin]

40) YOUR FONT IS NOT EXACTLY READABLE.

[Evolunchbox]

LMAO I can't figure out the color and font. I copied and pasted it from an email...

I'll try and fix it... no promises

[Evolunchbox]

TA-DA!!!! Fixed!

[ShooterMcGavin]

uh fixed what? :thinking:

[eViLMunkey]

How 'bout pull up the dirt on McCain too so we can evenly decide and not by single-sided evidence.
Since I know there is an a$$-load more dirt on McCain (mainly due to age and time in politics)

[JITB]

How 'bout pull up the dirt on McCain too so we can evenly decide and not by single-sided evidence.
Since I know there is an a$$-load more dirt on McCain (mainly due to age and time in politics)


lol McCAin has no dirt! :eek:

[eViLMunkey]

lol McCAin has no dirt! :eek:

BWahaha and the sheets in a hotel on Fulton Industrial are clean

[BobbyFresco]

BWahaha and the sheets in a hotel on Fulton Industrial are clean



:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:


I will rep you again when I can...

[ShooterMcGavin]

TA-DA!!!! Fixed!
felt bad for you so i fixed it :goodjob:

[Evolunchbox]

felt bad for you so i fixed it :goodjob:

Thank you sir! Reps!

[Thighs]

How 'bout pull up the dirt on McCain too so we can evenly decide and not by single-sided evidence.
Since I know there is an a$$-load more dirt on McCain (mainly due to age and time in politics)

that is the most intelligent statement ive seen or heard not only on here, but anywhere where politics is discussed. thanks. +reps.

[Kevykev]

More anti Obama propaganda.....*yawn*

People love favorable attention, it's cute. "Oh it highlights negative about Mccain, yes let me read it and post up."

Every candidate has their "discrepancies" people are going to vote for who they feel comfortable with regardless.

Propaganda in General us corney.


If KIDD or EVOLunchbox found out that MCCain Had sex with a chicken back in 1961 you know what they would say "Well hey... times were tough back then, I'm sure he had justifiable cause"

If Obama had sex with a Chicken back in 1978 you know what they would say "SEEEE He's a Terrorist, America is making a hugh mistake" :lmfao:




It's like when you go to streetfire.net or Youtube to watch a video titled "RSX Smokes EVO." You automatically know that the person who posted it owns or loves RSXs.

LOL @ politics



How 'bout pull up the dirt on McCain too so we can evenly decide and not by single-sided evidence.
Since I know there is an a$$-load more dirt on McCain (mainly due to age and time in politics)

:cheers: Everyone is dirty, so the question is "Who's dirt do you want to wipe your hands in?"

[Turbo Terrance]

QFT

Yet, the VIDEOS I posted of McCain and his ... "issues"... got little/no attention.

same here....

[JITB]

QFT

Yet, the VIDEOS I posted of McCain and his ... "issues"... got little/no attention.


lol me too!!

[Turbo Terrance]

lol me too!!

heres one.......


http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188350

[BobbyFresco]

I see a trend....coincidence.................?

[JITB]

mine got some traffic
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187737

[Turbo Terrance]

IT WAS INEVITABLE......

[tony]

A couple of things off the top of my head, its refreshing to now know that republicans know more about individuals than those individuals theirself.. then turn around and use it as propaganda. I mean really, how can you tell someone what their father was or wasnt? I'd love for some political faction to tell me they know more about my immediate family history than I do. I mean really.. #14???


14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life -
NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your
book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

You can now state what someone is inspired by for political gain??


7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it
daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that
faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run
for office. 4-3-08 Article "Obama was 'quite religious in
islam'"

But in the same breath the very same person who posted this will say he followed Jeremiah Wright for 20 years.. hold on, Barack is only 48 so the 31 years of being Muslim and 20 years of following a Christian pastor doesn't add up.


3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY, he
was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has
ever had.

This one is just plain disrespectful and completely lacks any kind of tact, his father was ousted and eventually DIED trying to change that "corrupt" government. His father was confined to being a janitor and was forever black balled by the Kenyan government for trying to make a positive difference.

But this falls upon deaf ears anyway, anyone who is quick to accept or adopt bull ish like this doesn't have full use of the brain cells available to them anyway. Better yet how about highlighting your candidate rather than ripping down the other? Just a suggestion.

[DevilK9]

This thread is useless and deserves to go on at the rate of 20 pages per hour!

[eraser4g63]

i think both candidates are full of chit and both should be flogged. other than that i would personally vote Bob Barr, the Government needs to get the Fk out of my business and my money, and neither mainstream candidate is headed in that direction. And fk all yall voting on race alone.

[Evolunchbox]

If KIDD or EVOLunchbox found out that MCCain Had sex with a chicken back in 1961 you know what they would say "Well hey... times were tough back then, I'm sure he had justifiable cause"


Not likely... I just have a really bad gut feeling about Barack Hussein Obama leading our country. It's not his name, race, shoe size, or ugly wife....it's just him. There is just TOO much negative **** swirling around him; as there always is when election time comes around. Truthfully, I don't give two toenails who wins... I just thought this was a good email that would stir the pot a little....Mission accomplished:cheers:

[JITB]

Obama threads and GTR threads....are guranteed 5+ pages..

[DevilK9]

There is just TOO much negative **** swirling around him;

Oh...and there isn't any negative sh/t swirling around MCracker?

At first I failed to see the humor in this thread, but not anymore!:lmfao:

[JITB]

Oh...and there isn't any negative sh/t swirling around MCracker?

At first I failed to see the humor in this thread, but not anymore!:lmfao:

the humor is in the People, and the OP!

[Evolunchbox]

Oh...and there isn't any negative sh/t swirling around MCracker?

At first I failed to see the humor in this thread, but not anymore!:lmfao:

Like I stated before... there will be negative ish about each canidate; as there always is when election time comes around.... No doubt Uncle MCracker will have some dirt as well...

The humor in this thread is watching how people react to it... ;)

[Total_Blender]

One of the links in the original post goes to a video game forum and the article on the video game forum has no cited sources at all.

If you google each of the topics you will find information that supports each claim and information that debunks it.

I'm also willing to bet that things quoted form Obama's book are taken out of context. When he refers to "my school" in interviews and speeches, he could be referring to any of the schools he attended. He did move around a lot during his life.

So this is pretty much nothing but partisan spin. If you guys want to criticize Obama focus on his voting record and his proposed policy. The debate over his race/ethnicity/religion/patriotism etc is yesterday's news.

[tony]

Like I stated before... there will be negative ish about each canidate; as there always is when election time comes around.... No doubt Uncle MCracker will have some dirt as well...

The humor in this thread is watching how people react to it... ;)

How bout stating YOUR views without quoting information on the internet? I'm anxious to hear real facts about why McCain is better for this country than Obama.

[Evolunchbox]

How bout stating YOUR views without quoting information on the internet? I'm anxious to hear real facts about why McCain is better for this country than Obama.

I actually got this in an email from my 78 year old grandfather...lol It still amazes me that he knows what he is doing...meaning using a computer.
Also, I would never copy and paste junk like this from the internet... I'm a little brighter than that... just to clear the air:goodjob:

[ShooterMcGavin]

they both suck, but obama sucks harder bc of his radical ideas on "change".

[Kevykev]

No one liked my Streetfire or Youtube reference?

[JITB]

No one liked my Streetfire or Youtube reference?


i told u bout those posts that make too much sense! they dont ever get quoted!

[Kevykev]

i told u bout those posts that make too much sense! they dont ever get quoted!


Sometimes they do :D

[eViLMunkey]

IT WAS INEVITABLE......
Bwahaha!! :lmfao: :lmfao:


(side note)
Well personal I get tired of the one sided mudslinging done by the news stations and it gives the public the wrong impression of the candidates. If they showed both sides (as in there are two sides to every story) dirty track records then you get a full perspective on who you're voting for, and it gives voters a more comfortable choice in who they are going to vote for. Then again that's why I watch the Colbert Report and Daily Show more than MSNBC, CNN etc... :ninja:

[Stormhammer]

Sometimes they do :D

like this one

[Kevykev]

bahaaaaa

[Alan®]

After the video of McCain babling on like an idiot was posted I thought this was appropriate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHEIi4XKRmM

[Turbo Terrance]

After the video of McCain babling on like an idiot was posted I thought this was appropriate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHEIi4XKRmM

which one the one i posted??:thinking:

[Friggintitsman]

If Lincoln is on the $5 bill and Franklin is on the $100

Obama's face will be on food stamps and welfare checks.

[Maniacc]

I found this on a politics forum I joined a not too long ago. Pretty scandalous stuff. The guy is a dirty, old sleaze bag, and from what it sounds like a bit of a sociopath.



Also as if it needs to be said ever again, a bigot, a sexist. If the idiots in this country would stop worrying so much about a "black" president, maybe we could get something done, and perhaps get down to honest toil here in the states.



1982: McCain, recently remarried to Arizona beer heiress Cindy Hensley, moves to Phoenix and wins a seat in the US House. He quickly forges a relationship with the Democratic House eminence from Tucson, Mo Udall, who although a strong progressive, has always welcomed the opportunity to work with Republicans.



1982-88: McCain takes over $100,000 in contributions from our well-remembered buddy from Lincoln S&L, Charles Keating, and his employees. McCain and Keating are very close, with McCain frequently joining Keating on outings to the Bahamas, on Keating's dime. Keating also has what Silverman calls a "business relationship" with Jim Hensley, Cindy Hensley's father, and with Cindy as well.



1986: During McCain's race for the Senate, Arizona Democrats ask the Udall staffers not to allow McCain to cling too closely to Udall, worrying that McCain is using Udall as a campaign tool. Udall aide Bob Neuman later says he tries to be subtle, but when McCain figures out what Neuman wants, he bawls Neuman out using words the aide refuses to repeat. Neuman later says McCain was so extreme in his reaction that, as Silverman writes, he thought "there was something really wrong with the guy." McCain is running for Barry Goldwater's seat, with Goldwater's endorsement. But after the Keating scandal, Goldwater loses much of his respect for McCain, and, Silverman writes, "soon found he had to stop McCain from using his good name."



1986: McCain jokes to an audience from the National League of Cities and Towns, asking if they've heard "the one about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly, and left to die?" The punch line: "When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, 'Where is that marvelous ape?'" Neuman later says, "John McCain is the Eddie Haskell of politics. You can attribute that to me, and he'll kill me for it."



1987-1988: McCain battles against campaign finance reform, in part on behalf of his pal Keating.



April 12, 1988: Governor Evan Mecham (R-Lunatic) has just been impeached, and Democrat Rose Mofford, the Secretary of State, takes over the position. Mofford, a kindly lady with an astonishing snow-white beehive bouffant, is as non-partisan as one can be and still belong to a political party, gracious and well-liked by just about everyone in the state government. But not by McCain and some of his buds. (Disclaimer: Mrs. Max, who describes herself as either a Goldwater Republican or a Reagan Democrat depending on the day of the week, knows Mofford, and likes her tremendously.) McCain and his pals want to eject Mofford using the same recall process that was launched to yank Mecham. Eight days into her tenure, Mofford goes to DC to take part in what one aide later calls the "perfunctory wet kiss" meeting with the Arizona congressional delegation. The meeting is strictly ceremonial, or so most people think. Mofford is quite conversant with her duties as secretary of state, primarily the elections department. She doesn't know a great deal about the Central Arizona Project (CAP) or the technical details of water provision in that dry state. And in eight days, she hasn't been able to learn a hell of a lot. She speaks before the Senate Energy and Water Subcommittee on Appropriations about CAP. McCain is not a member of that committee, but his Republican buddy from Idaho, James McClure, is. McClure asks Mofford, in Silverman's words,



a series of questions that would leave any water expert's mouth dry. Her staff jumped in to try to answer, but even so, ultimately they had to file an addendum to the testimony.



Sandbagged. The publisher of the Arizona Republic, Pat Murphy, who considers himself a friend of McCain's, is "crushed" by the incident. It is, Silverman writes, "the beginning of the end of his respect for and friendship with McCain." During lunch, a "mischievously glee[ful]" McCain brags about his setup of Mofford. As Murphy recalls, "he had slipped some highly technical questions to [McClure] to ask Mofford--questions she wouldn't be prepared to answer or expected to answer. Flabbergasted, I asked McCain why would he want to sabotage Mofford's testimony, when in fact the CAP was the nonpartisan pet of Republicans and Democrats--such as far-left Udall and far-right Goldwater--since its inception. His reply, as near as I remember, was, 'I'll embarrass a Democrat any time I get the chance.'" Murphy accompanies McCain back to his office, where reporters ask about a rumor that McCain had tried to sabotage Mofford's testimony. Murphy is floored to hear him answer, in classic straight-talk fashion, "I'd never do anything like that." Murphy later learns that McCain had even brought in a private film crew to film the testimony for use in embarrassing Moffatt in the recall election. The Arizona Supreme Court strikes down the recall effort, so McCain's gamesmanship did little except destroy his friendship with Murphy and embitter Mofford. While she doesn't talk much about the McCains, having known Cindy since she was little, she will tell Silverman, the CAP hearing, "hurt me more than anything ... to be set up like that." She also says that McCain is "certainly no Barry Goldwater or Mo Udall."

Late 1980s: McCain hosts an event ostensibly to honor Goldwater, but in reality to raise funds for his Senate campaign. Goldwater initially refuses to participate and tells McCain to give half of the proceeds to the Arizona Republican Party. McCain retools the event to honor Reagan instead. Goldwater does speak at the event, but later writes to McCain, "You will recall during my speech at the dinner for the president in Phoenix, I announced that you were going to give half of the funds you raised to the State Republican Party. I am told by the Party, that you still owe them $35,000, and unless you pay all of it, or most of it, they cannot meet their payroll next Wednesday." McCain will continue to use Goldwater, a legend in Arizona politics, as well as Udall as a campaign touchstone for himself.



1990: Facing criticism over his relationship with Keating and an upcoming re-election battle, McCain flip-flops and becomes a proponent of campaign finance reform and reducing government spending. Silverman calls McCain's efforts "a farce. McCain famously sponsored a law designed to control special interests' grip on Washington, but at the same time, he took money from those interests." She adds details and links that I won't go into here, but her summation of his efforts: "sadly cosmetic." What he has done is take such a shrill stance against certain types of earmarks--pork, in the vernacular--that Arizona has lost out on federal funding for, among other worthy projects, a program at a Scottsdale hospital that trains military medical personnel in trauma care. Some of that training has been used in Iraq and Afghanistan, for those who were lucky enough to receive it before the program lost much of its funding. Silverman notes:



Arizona's political forefathers--Mo Udall, Barry Goldwater, Carl Hayden — pushed through one of the biggest pork barrel projects in the history of the United States Congress: the Central Arizona [Water] Project. If they hadn't, there wouldn't be much of a state to represent. As a native Arizonan, those are the politicians I grew up learning about. McCain just doesn't compare.



1991 and After: When Udall leaves Congress, McCain, who had voted with Udall on some environmental issues, quits supporting those issues, and begins to rack up low marks from environmental groups. One of his most recent is a zero from the League of Conservation Voters. He has refused to oppose efforts to mine uranium from sites perilously near the Grand Canyon, and refuses to support proposed changes to the Mining Act of 1872, oblivious to the fact that Arizona is a testament to the environmental degradation that comes with strip mining and other practices. He is well remembered for threatening the job of a Forest Service official who disagreed with him on the topic of the endangered Mount Graham red squirrel. However, in campaign appearances, McCain regularly invokes the name and environmental passion of Udall. In April 2008, Newsweek writes, "He traces his environmental awareness to the sainted Rep. Mo Udall, an Arizona Democrat who took McCain as a young congressman under his tutelage ... To environmentalists, that's like saying you learned about civil rights by driving around Alabama with Martin Luther King Jr." It's doubtful that Newsweek bothered to find much on the other side of the story.



Spring 1994: Silverman begins hearing rumors of Cindy McCain's addiction to prescription drugs. She learns of Tom Gosinski, who had been fired from his position as director of government and international affairs for Cindy McCain's nonprofit charity, the American Voluntary Medical Team (AVMT), which provides medical relief to poor countries. Gosinski had gone to the DEA and told them that Cindy McCain was using an AVMT doctor to illegally prescribe her drugs in her employees' names. Gosinski was one of those employees, and he was worried that he might be culpable. Cindy McCain had had numerous prescriptions written for her, some with as many as 500 pills on a single refill. Dr. John Max Johnson, her AVMT drug connection, told the DEA that she kept them in her personal luggage. Gosinski had not just ratted her out, but filed a wrongful-termination suit against the charity. That alerted John McCain's lawyer, John Dowd, to the situation. Dowd charged Gosinski with extortion. The extortion investigation produded public records that Silverman finds and uses for her reporting. But the McCains learn of her records request, and try to inoculate themselves against her reports, acknowledging Cindy's prescription drug addictions and blaming it on her back surgeries and the stress from the Keating scandal. They also claim, falsely, that Gosinski is trying to blackmail them. In her September 8, 1994 story, Silverman prints the following excerpt from Gosinski's personal journal, an entry from July 1992: "I have always wondered why John McCain has done nothing to fix the problem. He must either not see that a problem exists or does not choose to do anything about it. It would seem that it would be in everyone's best interest to come to terms with the situation. And do whatever is necessary to fix it. There is so much at risk ... During my short tenure at AVMT, I have been surrounded by what on the surface appears to be the ultimate all-American family. In reality, I am working for a very sad, lonely woman whose marriage of convenience to a U.S. Senator has driven her to: distance herself from friends; cover feelings of despair with drugs; and replace lonely moments with self-indulgences." Cindy avoids criminal charges by going into a drug rehab program.



1997: McCain is a frequent and steady visitor to Mo Udall, who is slowly dying of Parkinson's disease. Neuman is pleased with McCain's loyalty, but he is stunned when McCain brings reporter Michael Lewis with him to Udall's hospital bedside. (McCain is unable to wake Udall during the visit. Udall will die in 1998.) Neuman later recalls, "That was devastating to me, that he brought in a reporter. I thought that was crossing the line, and it destroyed me." Silverman writes, "I'm sure I would have accepted the offer to go the hospital, as well. I can't blame Lewis, but maybe the sight of the legendary Mo Udall in his final, sad days wasn't McCain's to share."



2000: As the presidential primaries heat up, Silverman flies to Washington to be interviewed by 20/20's Sam Donaldson on McCain. After the interview, Donaldson decides he doesn't want to report anything negative about McCain, and cans the interview. The same thing happens when she helps put together background research for 60 Minutes, when Mike Wallace decides he wants to do a positive story on McCain.
Another member made a thread about this and was given little attention. So let me copy and paste it here.

[BTLFED]

i think both candidates are full of chit and both should be flogged. other than that i would personally vote Bob Barr, the Government needs to get the Fk out of my business and my money, and neither mainstream candidate is headed in that direction. And fk all yall voting on race alone.

This is the best post in this thread, and I am REAL tired of these BS political discussions. Most of you people who are supporting either are only going to listen or read and believe what you WANT TO about either candidate. There could be a bona fide true video of Obama having dinner and drinks with Bin Laden or anyone equally dangerous and against America and the Obama supporters would either deny it still or say that doesn't prove anything while the McCain supporters would say "I KNEW IT!" By the same token, if a bona fide video surfaced of McCain having dinner and drinks with Bin Laden or someone equally dangerous it would be the other way around. The bottom line is nothing is going to change the Obama supporters, and nothing is going to change the McCain supporters. Every one of these political pissing contests on here accomplish nothing.

Who am I voting for? Who knows. They both suck and neither one is going to fix what they say they are going to. I think we are fuked no matter which one wins.

[Vayda]

You can copypasta from an email, i can copypasta from snopes.com and disprove more or less everything you said. I don't have time to format all the links so here's the actual article from snopes, for those that actually want to research into this and not just read my post.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp




Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.


This criticism is based on an overly-literal interpretation of Barack Obama's 2007 speech in Selma, Alabama, which we covered in a separate article (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/saywhat.asp).

Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
These attributes are not mutually exclusive: Barack Obama's (biological) father was all of these things at different times in his life, as Obama described in his book, Dreams from My Father: [My father] was as African, I would learn, a Kenyan of the Luo tribe, born on the shores of Lake Victoria in a place called Alego. The village was poor, but his father — my other grandfather, Hussein Onyango Obama — had been a prominent farmer, an elder of the tribe, a medicine man with healing powers. My father grew up herding his father's goats and attending the local school, set up by the British colonial administration, where he had shown great promise. He eventually won a scholarship to study in Nairobi; and then, on the eve of Kenyan independence, he had been selected by Kenyan leaders and American sponsors to attend a university in the United States.

Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.
We are unaware of Barack Obama's ever having claimed his father was a "proud freedom fighter." Obama has written (and spoken) at length about his father's returning to Africa from America to work for the Kenyan government, with that country's political turmoil eventually leaving him a "bitter drunk" and "a defeated, lonely bureaucrat."

My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
As we discussed in a separate article (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/kenya.asp), Kenyan politician Raila Odinga has recently claimed to be Barack Obama's cousin, but there is no substantive evidence documenting his claim, and the two men share no meaningful familial connection.

My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. According to the New York Times: "I am a strong believer of the Islamic faith," Ms. Obama, 85, said in a recent interview in Kenya.' Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
The author seems to be unaware that Barack Obama, like most people, has two sets of grandparents. Obama was speaking of his maternal grandmother, Madelyn Dunham (http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-07-obamagrandma_N.htm), not his paternal grandmother.

My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
The author seems to be unaware that many Swahili words and names are of Arabic (http://baheyeldin.com/linguistics/list-of-swahili-words-of-arabic-origin.html) origin (just as many English words originated with other languages). "Barack (http://perl.kamusiproject.org/cgi-bin/main.cgi?right_frame_src=http%3A//perl.kamusiproject.org/cgi-bin/lookup.cgi%3FWord%3Dbaraka%26EngP%3D0%26SUBMIT2%3D Look+Up)" is a Swahili name that entered the language via historical trade and cultural ties with Arabia.

I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
The topic is already covered in our separate article about the (false) claims that Barack Obama is a Muslim (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp).

My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
The author seems to be unaware that Barack Obama attended more than one school in Indonesia, one of which was a public school that included Islamic religious instruction among its curriculum, and one of which was a private Catholic school.

I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
We are unaware of Barack Obama's ever having claimed he was "fluent" in any Indonesian language (beyond the level of competence that could reasonably be expected of the non-native child speaker he was at the time he lived in that country). He did acquire (and apparently still has) a passable command of Bahasa, as Time magazine noted in a 2007 article: When prominent Indonesians visit the U.S., the first person they want to meet is Obama, says Parnohadiningrat Sudjadnan, the Indonesian ambassador to the U.S. "Back home people think of him as one of us, or at least one who understands us," he says, adding that they are delighted to find that Obama speaks passable Bahasa, the language spoken in Indonesia and Malaysia.

Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language.
Barack Obama did live in Indonesia for four years as a child, and he could in fact speak the local language passably well. Whether his time in that country provided him more "foreign experience" is argumentative, but Obama himself is far from the only person to suggest that it might: Some would argue that his childhood experiences, as well as his mixed heritage (his father was Kenyan, his mother from Kansas), gives him a better inner compass on foreign policy than most Americans. They cite the pioneering work of Ruth Hill Useem, the late sociologist of Michigan State University, who spent her career studying what she called Third Culture Kids — the millions of U.S. children (an estimated 20 million since the advent of mass air travel) who have been carted abroad by their missionary, diplomatic, corporate or military parents. These frequent-flier kids don't spend enough time in their adopted countries to become fully bicultural, but they take pieces and add it to their home values and traditions — creating millions of "Third Cultures." Studies have shows that kids who have spent time abroad are more likely to go to college, to relate to one another despite the influences of vastly differing cultures, and to latch on to one aspect of their culture — in Obama's case African Americanism.
I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
Barack Obama has lived in, traveled to, or otherwise spent time in countries in Asia, Africa, and the Middle East. Whether his experiences make him "stronger on foreign affairs" is argumentative, but again, Obama himself is far from the only person to suggest that it might: "Living abroad does give you a wider view of the world," says Zbigniew Brzezinski, former National Security Adviser under Jimmy Carter, and a Polish-American who spent four years as a child living in Germany with his diplomat father. Obama is "a person with genuine sensitivity of world affairs," says Brzenzinski, who is supporting Obama. "It's not the conventional mouthing of culture sensitivities." Brzezinski points to Obama's greater willingness to meet leaders of hostile nations and his early resistance to the war in Iraq as examples of his superior intuition on foreign policy.

A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
In Dreams from My Father, Barack Obama writes of a childhood experience occurring on a day when his mother dropped him off at a library on her way to work, and he began thumbing through issues of LIFE magazine: Eventually I came across a photograph of an older man in dark glasses and a raincoat walking down an empty road. I couldn't guess what this picture was about; there seemed nothing unusual about the subject. On the next page was another photograph, this one a close-up of the same man's hands. They had a strange, unnatural pallor, as if blood had been drawn from the flesh. Turning back to the first picture, I now saw that the man's crinkly hair, his heavy lips and broad fleshy nose, all had this same uneven, ghostly hue.

He must be terrible sick, I thought. A radiation victim, maybem or an albino — I had seen one of those on the street a few days before, and my mother had explained about such things. Except when I read the words that went with the picture, that wasn't it at all. The man had received a chemical treatment, the article explained, to lighten his complexion. He had paid for it with his own money. He expressed some regret about trying to pass himself off as a white man, was sorry about how badly things had turned out. But the results were irreversible. There were thousands of people like him, black men and women back in America who'd undergone the same treatment in response to advertisements that promised happiness as a white person.

I felt my face and neck get hot. My stomach knotted; the type began to blur on the page. Did my mother know about this? What about her boss — why was he so calm, reading through his reports a few feet down the hall? I had a desperate urge to jump out of my seat, to show them what I had learned, to demand some explanation or assurance. But something held me back. As in a dream, I had no voice for my newfound fear. By the time my mother came to take me home, my face wore a smile and the magazines were back in their proper place. The room, the air, was quiet as before.
That no matching article may yet have been found in the pages of LIFE magazine does not mean that Obama saw no such article; it may simply mean that, writing decades after the fact, he misremembered the title of the magazine he was viewing.

I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
Senator Obama never stated categorically that he would not run on a national ticket in 2008. He at one time said that he had "no plans" to run for national office in 2008, the standard response virtually all politicians give to press inquiries when they have not yet formulated (or do not wish to reveal) their plans for upcoming elections.

I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
Barack Obama was indeed a professor at the University of Chicago's Law School, a fact verified (http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html) by that institution itself: The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as "Senior Lecturer."

From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School's Senior Lecturers has high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.

I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
Between 1993 and 2002, Barack Obama worked as a civil rights (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/02/20/obama_got_start_in_civil_rights_practice/) lawyer with the Chicago law firm of Miner, Barnhill & Galland (http://www.lawmbg.com/index.cfm/PageID/2674).

I Didn't Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.
In August 2007, major Democratic candidates signed a pledge to not campaign in Florida because that state had moved its primary election up to 29 January 2008, one week earlier than the Democratic national rules allowed. In January 2008, the Obama campaign launched national television advertisements on CNN and MSNBC that were also shown in Florida. Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton maintainted that they had asked CNN and MSNBC to pull Florida from the ad buy, but those networks said they could not.

I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn't.
Senator Obama never claimed to have "won" Michigan, save for an interview in which he misspoke and mentioned the wrong state name. In accordance with the agreement mentioned in the previous entry, Barack Obama's name didn't even appear on the Michigan ballot.

I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.
Senator Obama didn't claim to have "won" Nevada (a state that holds caucuses rather than direct-election primaries); he noted, correctly, that although Senator Hillary Clinton tallied more overall votes at the Nevada caucuses, he actually picked up more national delegates from that state: Mitt Romney took Nevada's Republican caucuses, while Democrats debated whether their party had rendered a split decision. New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton won the vote count among those at the caucuses, but Illinois Sen. Barack Obama claimed a slight advantage in national convention delegates on the strength of his showing in rural areas.

Obama said in a statement released by his campaign that he came from 25 points behind and nearly beat Clinton today because he did well across all of Nevada — "including rural areas where Democrats have traditionally struggled."

Obama's campaign said his performance in rural areas of the state helped him win a total of 13 national convention delegates, versus 12 for Clinton.

I Don't Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.
Senator Obama didn't say that has never accepted money from political action committees. (He used PAC money in his previous U.S. Senate and Illinois state Senate races.) He pledged that he would not accept PAC money for his 2008 presidential bid, a pledge that he has upheld.

I don't Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
Senator Obama did not claim that he doesn't "have lobbysists" [sic]. He stated that he does not employ federally registered lobbyists, and that if he were elected President his administration would not include any such lobbyists.

My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
A widely-circulated spoof (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJklyhWniDQ) of Apple Computer's famous 1984 television advertisement for their (then-new) Macintosh computer was not created by an Obama campaign worker. It was, as explained in a statement (http://www.bluestatedigital.com/2007/03/on_the_1984_video.html) issued by the managing director of Blue State Digital (a firm contracted to provide technology services to the Obama Campaign), created without authorization by an employee of that company: Statement from Thomas Gensemer, Managing Director, Blue State Digital

On Wednesday afternoon, March the 21st, an employee at our firm, Phillip de Vellis, received a call from Arianna Huffington of "The Huffington Post" regarding the "1984" video currently circulating online. Initially, de Vellis refused to respond to her requests. He has since acknowledged to Blue State Digital that he was the creator of the video.

Pursuant to company policy regarding outside political work or commentary on behalf of our clients or otherwise, Mr. de Vellis has been terminated from Blue State Digital effective immediately.

Blue State Digital is under contract with the Obama Campaign for technology pursuits including software development and hosting. Additionally, one of our founding partners is on leave from the company to work directly for the campaign at headquarters.

However, Blue State Digital is not currently engaged in any relationship with the Obama Campaign for creative or non-technical services.

Mr. de Vellis created this video on his own time. It was done without the knowledge of management, and was in no way tied to his work at the firm or our formal engagement [on technology pursuits] with the Obama campaign.

I have spoken with David Plouffe, Sen. Obama's campaign manager, to inform him of this action and am appreciative of his understanding and ongoing support of our work.

I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.
Senator Obama expressed opposition to the war in Iraq well before he gained a seat in the U.S. Senate in 2004. (The vote that authorized U.S. military action in Iraq was held in 2002.) He has since voted in the Senate to authorize funding for that war, for reasons he defended in a February 2008 Democratic debate: The two Democrats exchanged pointed words over each other's records on the war in Iraq, which contrast sharply even as economic and domestic concerns become dominant in the race. Clinton voted in 2002 to authorize the invasion, which Obama opposed from the start. After Obama again touted a high-profile antiwar speech he gave in Chicago before the war, Clinton pointed out that he, like her, had subsequently voted for war funding, and that their records on Iraq were similar since he came to the Senate in 2005.

"When it wasn't just a speech, but it was actually action, where is the difference?" she said. "Where is the comparison that would in some way give a real credibility to the speech that he gave against the war?"

Obama shot back: "Once we had driven the bus into the ditch, there were only so many ways we could get out."

[eraser4g63]

This is the best post in this thread, and I am REAL tired of these BS political discussions. Most of you people who are supporting either are only going to listen or read and believe what you WANT TO about either candidate. There could be a bona fide true video of Obama having dinner and drinks with Bin Laden or anyone equally dangerous and against America and the Obama supporters would either deny it still or say that doesn't prove anything while the McCain supporters would say "I KNEW IT!" By the same token, if a bona fide video surfaced of McCain having dinner and drinks with Bin Laden or someone equally dangerous it would be the other way around. The bottom line is nothing is going to change the Obama supporters, and nothing is going to change the McCain supporters. Every one of these political pissing contests on here accomplish nothing.

Who am I voting for? Who knows. They both suck and neither one is going to fix what they say they are going to. I think we are fuked no matter which one wins.

AMEN, either way everyone bend over and get a real tight hold on your ankles.

[collins]

And fk all yall voting on race alone.

thank GOD someone else realizes this....

[MR. 200SX]

I'm not much into "politics" but whatever you guys say or do Obama is going to win plus things ain't going to get any worse. W. Bush already made sure that happened on his 8 years in the white house.