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Pikachu
08-08-2008, 06:15 PM
WHICH IS OVERALL BETTER ENGINE(POWER WISE AND MONEY WISE)

This is being swapped into a CB7 2 door.....thanx reps will be given



F22B

This engine was used in the 1992-1996 Honda Prelude Si in Japan. It is similar to the H23A,.

Specifications

* 2.2L
* Bore × Stroke: 85.0 × 95.0 mm
* Displacement: 2156 cc
* Valve Configuration: DOHC, 16 valves
* Compression ratio: 9.3:1
* Max power: 166 hp (119 kW) @ 6000 rpm
* Max torque: 150 ft·lbf (200 N m) @ 5000 rpm


H23A1

The H23A1 was an increased-stroke, non-VTEC version of the H22a, designed for the North American and UK market 1992–1996 Honda Prelude Si. It shared the same Fiber Reinforced Metal (FRM) cylinder wall liners with the H22a.

Specifications

* Bore x Stroke: 87.0 x 95.0 mm (3.74 in)
* Displacement: 2258 cc (138 cu. in.)
* Valve Configuration: DOHC, 16 valves
* Type: In-line 4 cylinder, aluminum block and head
* Compression ratio: 9.8:1
* Max power: 160 hp (119 kW)
* Max torque: 163ft·lbf (207 Nm)
* Redline: 6500 rpm
* Engine Control System: Honda Systems PGM-FI with port fuel injection
* Valve Gear: belt-driven dual overhead cams, 4 valves per cylinder

.blank cd
08-08-2008, 06:24 PM
H23

tank500999
08-08-2008, 06:32 PM
h23

WhiteAccord
08-08-2008, 06:57 PM
I think both are answers are right and wrong.

What kind of setup are you looking for? N/A? Boost? Spray?

90_ACCORD
08-08-2008, 08:49 PM
i have one of the F series in my car but its bottom of the line

ive always heard that H series were better so i would say go with that

G.C
08-08-2008, 08:55 PM
the f22b your talking bout is JDM f22b. And i believe they made 160hp. if your going to boost go jdm f22b. you can boost the **** out of that motor.

Tech5
08-08-2008, 08:59 PM
x2 F22 is good for nitrous or turbo great motor!!!! H23 weak!
the f22b your talking bout is JDM f22b. And i believe they made 160hp. if your going to boost go jdm f22b. you can boost the **** out of that motor.

suprapower
08-08-2008, 11:39 PM
what the guy above me said

SilverSurfer
08-09-2008, 10:40 AM
i go with the f22

K24cb7coupe
08-09-2008, 11:19 AM
say no to the h23, im not a big fan of the f22b either but i would rather have it than an h23

.::UNKNOWN::.
08-09-2008, 11:20 AM
the f22b and the h23a have almost the exact same block and the exact same sleeves they like boost about the same just the f22 more bc of the lower compression...... if you want to go boost take the existing f22a1 and find a h23 head and put it on it..... then you have a Frankenstein motor with iron sleeves instead of frm sleeves.... but if you are not goin stricly boost and a clean daily i say h22 or h23 :goodjob:

Timinater
08-10-2008, 03:51 PM
the heads are almost identical blocks are the major diffs. f22b has iron sleeves(thick as sh.it) holds up to 350whp safely on those sleeves. imo you dont need much more than that in a fwd car. only disadvantage to f22 is getting parts like the timing belt, you need the ecu also or to fabricate a knock sensor in for the h23 ecu. just do some research. i bought one from G.C the guy that posted in this thread, and he said it ran fine, but he sold me it after he broke it. one of the cam gears broke and f.ucked up the head, dont buy anything from him, he is shady as hell. also he wont answer my calls, great guy, not. gl though do some research!

Imadaman
08-10-2008, 04:40 PM
f22b

.::UNKNOWN::.
08-11-2008, 05:26 PM
the heads are almost identical blocks are the major diffs. f22b has iron sleeves(thick as sh.it) holds up to 350whp safely on those sleeves. imo you dont need much more than that in a fwd car. only disadvantage to f22 is getting parts like the timing belt, you need the ecu also or to fabricate a knock sensor in for the h23 ecu. just do some research. i bought one from G.C the guy that posted in this thread, and he said it ran fine, but he sold me it after he broke it. one of the cam gears broke and f.ucked up the head, dont buy anything from him, he is shady as hell. also he wont answer my calls, great guy, not. gl though do some research!
h23 ecu will power the f22b... the h23 has a knock sensor it is the f22b that does not it has to be drilled and tapped which every motor selling site does that for you..... the timing belt and the water pump is the exact same as the h23... that is what hornsby and the guys at acura honda specialist used and i had no problem.... and from what i read the iron sleeves in the jdm f22b block is a myth that people get confused with the f22b1 that comes in a prelude s

Timinater
08-12-2008, 01:22 AM
h23 ecu will power the f22b... the h23 has a knock sensor it is the f22b that does not it has to be drilled and tapped which every motor selling site does that for you..... the timing belt and the water pump is the exact same as the h23... that is what hornsby and the guys at acura honda specialist used and i had no problem.... and from what i read the iron sleeves in the jdm f22b block is a myth that people get confused with the f22b1 that comes in a prelude s

ok, your a f.ucking dumb ass. pull both motors apart and learn something. f22 has 126 teeth on timing belt h23 has 127. 1 tooth makes a big diff, also waterpumps are different. oh and putting the knock sensor in isnt hard, but goodluck finding one for cheap, most go for over $100. you need to research before you open your mouth

BB1_Luda
08-12-2008, 01:30 AM
H23a1

ACCORDPRIDE
08-12-2008, 01:33 AM
f22 would be my selection of the two
but why not a h22a?

SilverSurfer
08-12-2008, 06:34 AM
f22 would be my selection of the two
but why not a h22a?


x2 :goodjob:

.::UNKNOWN::.
08-13-2008, 05:55 PM
ok, your a f.ucking dumb ass. pull both motors apart and learn something. f22 has 126 teeth on timing belt h23 has 127. 1 tooth makes a big diff, also waterpumps are different. oh and putting the knock sensor in isnt hard, but goodluck finding one for cheap, most go for over $100. you need to research before you open your mouth did my research i had the jdm f22b in my prelude b4 i swaped it already pulled the motor and took it apart..... and i am a dumb a$$ when the guys at acura honda specialist are the ones that told me it would work.... that is the only place i would ever take my car to as shops go that is all i am saying is that they will work and i had it done a good 2 yrs before i did my swap and i did my swap bc the kepy broke on my crank shaft that is how i know my info