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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nz6GQpUV0c
:lmfao: :lmfao:
That was a nice verse...
Lucky DAWG
08-01-2008, 10:08 PM
I love Hannity
his radio show is hilarious
VIP Style
08-01-2008, 10:55 PM
lol oh my goodness, why dont they just relax
i like how everyone that supports obama is some how related to him, but nobody is ever related to McCain. And his nazi preacher..
JR VQ 30 de
08-02-2008, 12:16 AM
OBAMA FTMFW
Zodiac
08-02-2008, 12:53 AM
haha that blonde likes eminem.
VIP Style
08-02-2008, 11:00 AM
lol you see how that old guy reacted to her admitting that
haha that blonde likes eminem.
SixSquared
08-02-2008, 12:55 PM
I don't see what the big deal is... I'm no expert because I admittedly don't listen to a lot of rap, but it's generally about putting someone down/dissing someone and supporting yourself or your cause... that's all Luda was doing. And what's so wrong with encouraging people to get off their a$$es and vote?
I think people are raising a stink about it because by saying that people fear a black white house, Luda is calling them out and it makes them uncomfortable because he's right.
Obama ftw.
Lucky DAWG
08-02-2008, 01:31 PM
I don't see what the big deal is... I'm no expert because I admittedly don't listen to a lot of rap, but it's generally about putting someone down/dissing someone and supporting yourself or your cause... that's all Luda was doing. And what's so wrong with encouraging people to get off their a$$es and vote?
I think people are raising a stink about it because by saying that people fear a black white house, Luda is calling them out and it makes them uncomfortable because he's right.
Obama ftw.
i fear nothing more then the BLACK house for the wrong reasons. I wouldn't give a damn if he was black if his personality and background weren't so jaded and fronted by a complete facade
VIP Style
08-02-2008, 01:36 PM
you could not have done a better job, i agree people are taking his little sound byte and analyzing too hard, just laugh at the sh** and move along.
I don't see what the big deal is... I'm no expert because I admittedly don't listen to a lot of rap, but it's generally about putting someone down/dissing someone and supporting yourself or your cause... that's all Luda was doing. And what's so wrong with encouraging people to get off their a$$es and vote?
I think people are raising a stink about it because by saying that people fear a black white house, Luda is calling them out and it makes them uncomfortable because he's right.
Obama ftw.
I don't see what the big deal is... I'm no expert because I admittedly don't listen to a lot of rap, but it's generally about putting someone down/dissing someone and supporting yourself or your cause... that's all Luda was doing. And what's so wrong with encouraging people to get off their a$$es and vote?
I think people are raising a stink about it because by saying that people fear a black white house, Luda is calling them out and it makes them uncomfortable because he's right.
Obama ftw.
Thank you for telling it how it really is.
Vteckidd
08-02-2008, 01:42 PM
I don't see what the big deal is... I'm no expert because I admittedly don't listen to a lot of rap, but it's generally about putting someone down/dissing someone and supporting yourself or your cause... that's all Luda was doing. And what's so wrong with encouraging people to get off their a$$es and vote?
I think people are raising a stink about it because by saying that people fear a black white house, Luda is calling them out and it makes them uncomfortable because he's right.
Obama ftw.
please do us all a favor and dont vote.
This is what worries me the most, the complete lack of brains in my generation.
I cant believe we can sit here and say this is not a big deal and its ok.
if a WHITE PERSON made a song like this we would be CRUCIFIED.
THE ONLY PEOPLE MAKING THIS ELECTION A RACE ISSUE, IS BLACK PEOPLE!
All this does is deepen the racial divide PERPETRATED by the "black" celebrities/ploiticians/people that cant think for themselves.
Ludacris and Nas can jump off a cliff, they are just perpetuating and ignorant stereotype.
Vteckidd
08-02-2008, 01:46 PM
I have NO PROBLEMs with a black candidate. I would vote for Colin Powell in a HEART BEAT.
What i have a problem is that the issue is Obamas complete LACK of a record, flip flopping, no credible policy changes that he can articulate how he will implement them, etc. But when we bring that up, its about we dont want him in the white house because hes BLACK.
I really wish eminem would fire back and call Obama a n1gger and we need to keep the white house white, and **** all you porch monkeys.
Wonder if all you people would laugh then and just shrug it off as him calling people out for being uneasy about a black person becoming president.
fuc.king stupid
Vteckidd
08-02-2008, 01:48 PM
Theres a difference between having PRIDE in your own, which i TOTALLY AGREE with, and spouting off racial rhetoric that just gets swept under the rug.
Be proud if hes black, sure, all for that. But dont sit here and spout off racial remarks against others, and then sit there an point the finger saying "you cant do that to me"
To say race has no underlying tone of this election even with the comments of blacks removed would be ignorant. Just like people say blacks are voting for Obama because he is black I'm sure there are just as many people not willing to vote for Obama because of the color of his skin.. or for the fear of a black man running this country, sorry thats reality.
Lucky DAWG
08-02-2008, 02:52 PM
To say race has no underlying tone of this election even with the comments of blacks removed would be ignorant. Just like people say blacks are voting for Obama because he is black I'm sure there are just as many people not willing to vote for Obama because of the color of his skin.. or for the fear of a black man running this country, sorry thats reality.
So if i came out and said I'm voting for McCain because hes white, do you think that would go over well?
SixSquared
08-02-2008, 02:53 PM
please do us all a favor and dont vote.
This is what worries me the most, the complete lack of brains in my generation.
I cant believe we can sit here and say this is not a big deal and its ok.
if a WHITE PERSON made a song like this we would be CRUCIFIED.
THE ONLY PEOPLE MAKING THIS ELECTION A RACE ISSUE, IS BLACK PEOPLE!
All this does is deepen the racial divide PERPETRATED by the "black" celebrities/ploiticians/people that cant think for themselves.
Ludacris and Nas can jump off a cliff, they are just perpetuating and ignorant stereotype.
So we should leave voting up to people like you who when they hear something that goes against their opinion chooses to attempt to silence that opinion instead of listening to it?
Yeah... sounds like a brilliant notion to me.
SixSquared
08-02-2008, 02:54 PM
So if i came out and said I'm voting for McCain because hes white, do you think that would go over well?
No. You should vote based on your agreement with a politician's platform and agenda.
Lucky DAWG
08-02-2008, 03:05 PM
No. You should vote based on your agreement with a politician's platform and agenda.
i thought you obama supporter's angle was that i should not be telling you what to do and what not to do for supporting him because he is black and know nothing about him besides he is a celebrity.
So i take it from what you're saying is apart from "what i should do", it would not be outrageous to go on the air and say, well i'm just glad theres another white guy running. because i'm sure there has been lots of black people doing that and its a total double standard.
sorry, did not pose in question form with a question mark
SixSquared
08-02-2008, 03:14 PM
I'm not voting for Obama because I like him necessarily... I'm voting for him because I can't stand McCain.
Lucky DAWG
08-02-2008, 03:16 PM
I'm not voting for Obama because I like him necessarily... I'm voting for him because I can't stand McCain.
I feel the same about Obama, but that didn't answer my question
SixSquared
08-02-2008, 03:23 PM
You never posed a question.
So if i came out and said I'm voting for McCain because hes white, do you think that would go over well?
Do you think anyone would care?
im Still wondering why Mccains nazi preacher that he was associated with was never headline news..
Lucky DAWG
08-02-2008, 04:19 PM
Do you think anyone would care?
yes
and thats an understatement
and i mean someone in the media spotlight.
not me myself.
no one would give a damn about a random 19 yr old white male :lmfao:
DrivenMind
08-02-2008, 04:22 PM
So if i came out and said I'm voting for McCain because hes white, do you think that would go over well?
No, but I very much doubt anyone would be surprised.
bigdare23
08-02-2008, 04:26 PM
No, but I very much doubt anyone would be surprised.
took the works out of my mouth
stephen
08-02-2008, 04:30 PM
I have NO PROBLEMs with a black candidate. I would vote for Colin Powell in a HEART BEAT.
What i have a problem is that the issue is Obamas complete LACK of a record, flip flopping, no credible policy changes that he can articulate how he will implement them, etc. But when we bring that up, its about we dont want him in the white house because hes BLACK.
I really wish eminem would fire back and call Obama a n1gger and we need to keep the white house white, and **** all you porch monkeys.
Wonder if all you people would laugh then and just shrug it off as him calling people out for being uneasy about a black person becoming president.
fuc.king stupid
did you even bother to listen to the words in the song? it's obvious that you didn't. not one time did he take a shot at the white race. the man said that it's time for a black president....SO WHAT? is it really that big of a deal? are you really that afraid? everyone wants to say "black people are keeping racism alive" and "black people are putting race into this election" not understanding that ALL RACES are responsible. just google "racist mccain supporters" and see what you come up with. i've got a question for you...how much tv did you watch during the primaries? how many times did we see people dogging obama because of his name? what about people calling him "muslim" and putting him on the same page as terrorist or extremist? even hillary had to fire someone in her camp for making some racist comment about the man. i'm with luda....fawk hillary, put mccain in a wheel chair, and send bush down to florida, so the elementary school kids can READ TO HIM like they were doing when 9/11 happened.
re-EDIT: i forgot one...fawk jesse jackson too...cut his hair and nuts off.
Mr.Big
08-02-2008, 05:23 PM
please do us all a favor and dont vote.
This is what worries me the most, the complete lack of brains in my generation.
I cant believe we can sit here and say this is not a big deal and its ok.
if a WHITE PERSON made a song like this we would be CRUCIFIED.
THE ONLY PEOPLE MAKING THIS ELECTION A RACE ISSUE, IS BLACK PEOPLE!
All this does is deepen the racial divide PERPETRATED by the "black" celebrities/ploiticians/people that cant think for themselves.
Ludacris and Nas can jump off a cliff, they are just perpetuating and ignorant stereotype.
A man just be quiet.. U know damn well that the Election issue is about the white man not tryin to have black man in power. Thats the thing that worries u right now
Lucky DAWG
08-02-2008, 05:45 PM
No, but I very much doubt anyone would be surprised.
lmao
i will give you this, that was a good one
If you really think i'm racist though, talk to Nitro, i only know a handful of people on this site. Hes met me IRL and will tell you i'm not.
...or so he thinks... :lmfao:
twinj
08-02-2008, 06:11 PM
In all honesty.
IMO, I think racism will never die with that being said. Because a black person did say some vogar(SP) sh1t about a couple of powerful white people that he must be punished(per say). This is the kind of **** Obama really doesn't need. Why Luda would put out something like that........ That could possibly Jeporadize Obama chance's.....IDK I personally didn't listen to that hard. I do see where it would be offensive.
The only reason I am going for Obama is because I do want to see a change. Until then I will be paying very close attention to both of them. Hopefully the better man does wins.
Vteckidd
08-02-2008, 06:25 PM
In all honesty.
IMO, I think racism will never die with that being said. Because a black person did say some vogar(SP) sh1t about a couple of powerful white people that he must be punished(per say). This is the kind of **** Obama really doesn't need. Why Luda would put out something like that........ That could possibly Jeporadize Obama chance's.....IDK I personally didn't listen to that hard. I do see where it would be offensive.
The only reason I am going for Obama is because I do want to see a change. Until then I will be paying very close attention to both of them. Hopefully the better man does wins.
Thats the mentality i HOPE for. Im not saying you SHOULDNT vote for obama, if you truly feel he is the better candidate, then thats your right and choice.
My point is that there seems to be a HUGE DOUBLE standard.
Ludacris and Nas can get away with anything they want, the rest of the rappers can do whatever they want, but if white america does something even close to racist, its a huge national issue.
I just hope that most people that hear that ludacris song stop an think for a moment about how racially charged, ignorant, and stupid he sounds.
There are other ways to get your political message out, listen to Lupe, Outkast, Andre3000, GangStarr, etc.
It just seems that the majority of the black movement feels they can get away with being racist, because at one point in time, they encoutered racism themselves. Its ok for THEM to use the word "*****" because it was used againt them. Its ok for them to lash out and say racist things in music, movies, etc because hundreds of years ago we had slaves.
If what ludacris said wasnt racist, i dont know what is, and if you think it isnt, ask yourself if a white rapper changed the names would it still be equally offensive.
I thinkthe problem is that in order for obama to appeal to the younger crowd, he had to be DOWN with the rappers and thugs. He has to appear to be a champion of the people , he has to give the little "pounds" to his wife, he has to appear with Ludacris and have him throw fundraisers. etc
Afterall if you turn your back on the rappers and other idiots, you end up like Condoleeza Rice or Colin Powell, your just not "cool".
LAME
DrivenMind
08-02-2008, 06:28 PM
lmao
i will give you this, that was a good one
If you really think i'm racist though, talk to Nitro, i only know a handful of people on this site. Hes met me IRL and will tell you i'm not.
...or so he thinks... :lmfao:
Quote the part where I said "you're a racist."
DrivenMind
08-02-2008, 06:41 PM
This race has nothing to do with it being "time for a black" president, and everything to do with it "being time" for this depraved materialistic, tyrant of a county to have sincere leadership.
If you think Obama should be voted for because it's "time for a black president" then you've missed the boat before making it to the dock. Obama is not the best presidential candidate, (which I think by far was Ron Paul) but he appears to be much more trust worthy than McCain. It'd be easy to turn this into a race thing, and I'm sure plenty of stupid people are doing that, but it misses the point, and doesn't help in objectivity.
Not only that, but I'm done buying this "terrorist" propaganda bull****, that these crooked old men keep coming up with. We spend more on defense than anyone else in the world, but when people want to attack us and get by our security measures, and it just so happens to be beneficial to certain political and financial agendas, it goes down like clockwork.
I'd vote for Obama just to keep McCain out. His policies are outdated, and make liberal use of ambiguous fear. The moment I heard him say "100 year war" I almost **** myself, and ran for the "security room" that I had rigged to the back of my tail pipe.
Not only that, but I don't think I've ever seen the old ****** actually look happy. He looks like an American hybrid of Adolf Hitler, and Joseph Stalin without the mustaches.
You could make the argument that McCain has the advantage in experience, but I'd counter with Obama has the advantage in education. Just because you've spent your whole life in manufacturing, doesn't mean you're going to invent the assembly line.
Edit: While I do think Ludacris's song had good, or at least well founded intentions, and inspirations, I think it's going to scare the rednecks (Fox News and affiliates) into pumping out even more Anti-Obama bull****. It was a bad move on his behalf, not because it didn't have a vaguely relevant message, but because like any ignorant fool, old red necks scare easy when it comes to unfamiliar things, and **** like that song will work them into a terrified frenzy.
"Don't say that word around here... You'll get them excited."
-Hunter S. Thompson (Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas)
CAN SOMEOEN EXPLAIN TO ME WHY EVERY PERSON THAT SUPPORTS OBAMA INSTANTLY BECOMES HIS BEST FRIEND AND SOMEHOW CONTROLS HIM
BUT...McCains controversal supporters gets swept under the rug... and why people are trying so hard to throw dirt on Obama over other peoples actions.
I mean its obvious it happens
check the article..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/mccains-church-hates-ame_b_92140.html
DrivenMind
08-02-2008, 06:51 PM
CAN SOMEOEN EXPLAIN TO ME WHY EVERY PERSON THAT SUPPORTS OBAMA INSTANTLY BECOMES HIS BEST FRIEND AND SOMEHOW CONTROLS HIM
BUT...McCains controversal supporters gets swept under the rug... and why people are trying so hard to throw dirt on Obama over other peoples actions.
I mean its obvious it happens
check the article..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/mccains-church-hates-ame_b_92140.html
Because Obama is black, and whites with an agenda control most, if not all of the media.
Greddypacked
08-02-2008, 07:17 PM
Ludacris just got the ghetto off there arses to vote for Obama :lmfao: j/p. Luda made a point and probably got his fans and alot of others voting for the one he wants to win. Obviously he's all into the first black president moto so he's speaking his peace since he has a powerful mouth. Rappers do things like this to support themselves, there music, sell records, and get more publicity towards them or what they rap about. He just got alot of marketing value out of this probably. Stupid way, but it works.
cornercarver78
08-02-2008, 07:23 PM
CAN SOMEOEN EXPLAIN TO ME WHY EVERY PERSON THAT SUPPORTS OBAMA INSTANTLY BECOMES HIS BEST FRIEND AND SOMEHOW CONTROLS HIM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/mccains-church-hates-ame_b_92140.html
Because Luda is more than just an Obama supporter, Obama has a relationship with him as has used him to campaign. The reasons for which I dislike Obama have nothing to do with his race and everything to do with his policy.
Because Luda is more than just an Obama supporter, Obama has a relationship with him as has used him to campaign. The reasons for which I dislike Obama have nothing to do with his race and everything to do with his policy.
Ludacris had a fundraiser for Obama, a year or so ago... How do you expect obama to control what people do. An obama rep already said that they dont agree with the lyrics. What else can he say? If that applies to Obama Why doesnt it apply to the other presidential nominee? have u seen or heard the hateful words that has come out of some of McCains Religious supporters? Who have donated their Tax Free money to his campaign.
alpine_aw11
08-03-2008, 02:20 PM
Ludacris had a fundraiser for Obama, a year or so ago... How do you expect obama to control what people do. An obama rep already said that they dont agree with the lyrics. What else can he say? If that applies to Obama Why doesnt it apply to the other presidential nominee? have u seen or heard the hateful words that has come out of some of McCains Religious supporters? Who have donated their Tax Free money to his campaign.
The reason his religious supporters dont get openly criticized is noone gives a **** about what they say. Ludacris, on the other hand, is obviously a very high profile supporter and is clearly open about it to the public, whom he can reach through mass media better than any religious dumbsh.it redneck can. If he's going to come out and say things like that, there's going to be criticism. If someone backing McCain with equal stature to luda came out with racist remarks, I assure you it would be covered. Not smart of Luda at all to start playing the race card, which Obama has openly protested against.
The reason his religious supporters dont get openly criticized is noone gives a **** about what they say. Ludacris, on the other hand, is obviously a very high profile supporter and is clearly open about it to the public, whom he can reach through mass media better than any religious dumbsh.it redneck can. If he's going to come out and say things like that, there's going to be criticism. If someone backing McCain with equal stature to luda came out with racist remarks, I assure you it would be covered. Not smart of Luda at all to start playing the race card, which Obama has openly protested against.
what about Obamas preacher that put all the drama on obama a few months ago...lets listen to what rappers have to say now...when they say something that can hurt his campaign....lets go thru and disect every rapper that supports obama and break apart the lyrics... and lets make obama their best friend!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/mccains-church-hates-ame_b_92140.html
alpine_aw11
08-03-2008, 03:37 PM
It's all about competition, it's the race for the presidency. Obviously McCain's campaign is going to focus is itself on Obama's associations considering he's so inexperienced. McCain will take money from anyone, but Obama will too, dont be stupid about it. Both of them have ****ed up friends/peers yea, but politicians will take anyones money. It's just how it is.
BobbyFresco
08-03-2008, 04:19 PM
For anyone to actually believe that with a white man and a black man running for the same position and that race would play no part at all, moreso considering the significance that race still plays in America, I would tell you to wake the fuk up...
Like has been mentioned before, there are just as many people NOT voting for Obama because he is black as there are people voting for him because he is.
Pot meet kettle.
It's all about competition, it's the race for the presidency. Obviously McCain's campaign is going to focus is itself on Obama's associations considering he's so inexperienced. McCain will take money from anyone, but Obama will too, dont be stupid about it. Both of them have ****ed up friends/peers yea, but politicians will take anyones money. It's just how it is.
the problem with donations from preachers, is that they dont pay taxes... on any of their income.
alpine_aw11
08-03-2008, 09:28 PM
the problem with donations from preachers, is that they dont pay taxes... on any of their income.
I dont know if that's actually illegal or not but I dont see a problem in it. Ok, they dont pay taxes, but it's still their money. Presidential campaigns need as much as they can get, I personally have a lot of problems with the way presidential candidates get funding but it's all even. Both Obama and McCain have taken donations from religious organizations and their members, it's not that big of a deal. Both sides are taking money under the table.
tdurr
08-03-2008, 09:38 PM
isnt that a older track for luda? that beat is older... and luda is the man. and people will never be happy with other people, and dislike ones reasons for doing something(even if its right or wrong)
Its called life.
T-durr
isnt that a older track for luda? that beat is older... and luda is the man. and people will never be happy with other people, and dislike ones reasons for doing something(even if its right or wrong)
Its called life.
T-durr
its off a Ludacris gangsta grillz mixtape coming out soon!
Nomad!
08-07-2008, 12:16 PM
There are so many post to comment on in this thread that I didn't know where to begin, so I'll start here!
First and foremost, if racism wasn't such a HUGE part of American culture then so many minorities wouldn't "pull the race card". I find it interesting that when a person of color speaks of racial injustice or racial indiscrepancies, it is now referred to as "pulling the race card". Has it ever occurred to you that this is STILL a racially divided nation and people STILL go through harsh circumstances due to the color of their skin? Rather you want to believe it or not, IT IS TRUE! Rather you want to see it or not, IT IS THERE! Speaking of "the race card", how is it that it is Obama's camp and supporters that are making everything a race issue when you have the media cramming his race down everyone's throat. If you would like to make it completely a race issue, there are FAR MORE people in this country that WON'T vote for Obama because he's black verses the opposite.
My point is that there seems to be a HUGE DOUBLE standard.
Ludacris and Nas can get away with anything they want, the rest of the rappers can do whatever they want, but if white america does something even close to racist, its a huge national issue.
As for the HUGE DOUBLE STANDARD, I couldn't agree more. There is a huge double standard in this country but, it sure as hell isn't the way you see it. The double standard is the same as it has been since this country's beginnings. I guess since most of you benefit from the double standard, you simply see it as the standard. Just because you don't want to see the racism in this nation does NOT mean that it doesn't exist. "White america" has done (and still does) things that are overtly racist everyday. It is a huge national issue that "white America" is comfortable with. As I said, it's the standard. When "white America" begins to feel uncomfortable, then and only then, it becomes a problem or an issue that needs to be addressed. "White America" hates to look in a mirror.
There are other ways to get your political message out, listen to Lupe, Outkast, Andre3000, GangStarr, etc.
I think it's obvious that you don't LISTEN to Lupe, Outkast, Gansstarr, KRS-1, Public Enemy, Goodie Mobb and many others I can name. If you did, you would know that all of these artists speak of the same issues and problems. They all just do it in their own way.
It just seems that the majority of the black movement feels they can get away with being racist, because at one point in time, they encoutered racism themselves. Its ok for THEM to use the word "*****" because it was used againt them. Its ok for them to lash out and say racist things in music, movies, etc because hundreds of years ago we had slaves.
You speak on the"black movement" as if you have some insight. Were you at the last "black movement" meeting or something? I can understand, and even accept, that you don't know what some blacks have gone through/are going through because, the color of your skin (if you are white) will exempt you from EVER having to go through it. What you need to understand is, just because you may never experience it doesn't mean that it doesn't happen or doesn't exist. What you also need to understand is that, the problems in this country continued to live & thrive long after the hundreds of years of slavery...and please don't try to minimizes the effects slavery had on this country and my people. That would be too ignorant even by IA's low standards.
As for you mentioning music, movies, ect...you have got to be joking! Not so long ago, black artists couldn't be pictured on their own album covers & weren't allowed to go into many movie theaters. You sound as if you like to use logic so, think very logically about this question: If a country/government was founded by racist, prospered from racism, supported racism by law, and encouraged racism for HUNDREDS of years, do you think that damage will be undone in your life time?
If what ludacris said wasnt racist, i dont know what is, and if you think it isnt, ask yourself if a white rapper changed the names would it still be equally offensive.
You feel Luda is racist because of his song? That's your opinion & you're entitled to it but, did you ever ask yourself why Luda made the song? Did you ever stop to ponder the possible inspiration for the song? If you feel that Luda is a racist because of his song, do you feel that McCain is a racist because of his opposition to the Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. national holiday? McCain was instrumental in keeping this national holiday from being observed in Arizona. Does that bother you in any way?
I thinkthe problem is that in order for obama to appeal to the younger crowd, he had to be DOWN with the rappers and thugs. He has to appear to be a champion of the people , he has to give the little "pounds" to his wife, he has to appear with Ludacris and have him throw fundraisers. etc
Who are the thugs that Obama is "down" with? For that matter, who are the rappers he's "down" with? What exactly do you mean by "down with" anyway? Do you even know what you mean? Obama has supporters from all walks of life. As for his appeal to young people; Is it possible that he appeals to young people because, they are tired of a government that has shown time & time again that it doesn't care about the people it supposedly represents and, Obama embodies the change that they desire? If he does appear as a champion to the people, it is because the people have given him that title, not because he gave it to himself. Is that not what this country was/is supposed to be about anyway? For the people, by the people?!?!?!? He is playing by the rules that were established long before he was born. Now that he's beating the odds, it is a problem. As for you mentioning the "pounds" he gives his wife...what exactly does that have to do with anyone or anything outside of them? The fact that you (and other Obama detractors) have brought that up shows that you're grasping and anything you possibly can to try to put a negative spin on.
Afterall if you turn your back on the rappers and other idiots, you end up like Condoleeza Rice or Colin Powell, your just not "cool".
LAME
As others have stated in this thread, everyone who supports Obama does NOT speak for Obama. Luda, Nas, or any other artist (or anyone on this planet for that matter) speaks their mind and show their support in their own way. When Obama was asked how he felt about Luda's song, he responded. If you are going to be so critical of someone, at the very least, be critical of that person's actions and words. Not someone else's. If you live by the adage "guilty by association", you would be more pissed off at the current administration more than you could ever be at Obama via Luda. I guess the last word of your post sums up the last sentence in your post, and pretty much your entire post as a whole...LAME
Nomad!
08-07-2008, 12:26 PM
If you really think i'm racist though, talk to Nitro, i only know a handful of people on this site. Hes met me IRL and will tell you i'm not.
Just because you met Nitro means you're not a racist? Do you know Nitro or have you only met him? Better yet, does Nitro really know you? There is a huge difference between knowing someone and simply meeting them. I've met lots of IA people. I sure as hell don't know them. Most of them know me by my screen name and that's the way I know them. Beyond that, how would meeting Nitro not make you a racist. Most racists are much more covert with their racism these days so, I wouldn't think that you'd show that side of yourself when meeting him. Don't be mistaken, I'm not saying you're a racist. I'm just not saying that you're not.
Nomad!
08-07-2008, 12:32 PM
im Still wondering why Mccains nazi preacher that he was associated with was never headline news..
The same reason none of the anti-Obomites have acknowledged your post. It is a double standard that doesn't harm them or what they want.
EJ25RUN
08-07-2008, 12:36 PM
To say race has no underlying tone of this election even with the comments of blacks removed would be ignorant. Just like people say blacks are voting for Obama because he is black I'm sure there are just as many people not willing to vote for Obama because of the color of his skin.. or for the fear of a black man running this country, sorry thats reality.
No a national vote was taken
8% of Whites said race is an issue in their vote.
25% of blacks said race is an issue in their vote.
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