What Suspension you Rocking on the Ef?

[southside]

Trying to see what setup I should go with in my Ef.A friend of mine has Tein dont know which setup but it handles pretty damn good. Just wanted to see what everyone else is riding on.:goodjob:

[Konstantin]

if youre looking for performance, go with Koni Yellows and GCs.
I went with the bang for the buck kind of deal with Tokico Illuminas and Tokico springs. I got a fenominal deal on them. Couldnt pass it up, and I would recomend them to anyone. They are nice for the price.

[southside]

Yea only problem I have with springs,they just dont get your car low enough.

[Papa_Smurf]

got my Ground control coilovers for a deal, and got tokico hp blues because i was on a budget.

ride is great though.

.....but this thread has been covered before, i just dont feel like digging it back up.

everyone is going to tell you gc's with koni's, but not everyone is a baller and can afford that....lol

[KevinT707]

Currently riding on stock struts + Ebay coilovers.

Whenever I have money to upgrade I'm not getting GC/Konis.

I want the KSport adjustable dampening coilovers.

[southside]

lol yea my girls buying it so I guess im balling.

[Papa_Smurf]

haha got that girl on lock.

you aint commin to the mountain run...?

[southside]

Currently riding on stock struts + Ebay coilovers.

Whenever I have money to upgrade I'm not getting GC/Konis.

I want the KSport adjustable dampening coilovers.I was just checking Ksports setup.The ones I found were like 800$ but I dont know if they are good.

[Halfwit]

nopi brand....pretty much the worst suspension in the world. i hit a pebble and i feel like i jsut jumped a curb.

[southside]

haha got that girl on lock.

you aint commin to the mountain run...?:lmfao: yea I do naw cant make it to the mountain run.I cant my cars not running:(

[southside]

nopi brand....pretty much the worst suspension in the world. i hit a pebble and i feel like i jsut jumped a curb.damn that doesnt sound safe.Think if you hit a rock:lmfao:

[jfrolang]

My new setup (springs and shocks at least) is Koni yellows and Ground Controls, spring rates 450/550.

[slow_hatch]

Join the bandwagon. GroundControls w/ Koni yellows, they are a proven setup. However if you can't get the Konis, Kyb agxs are good for the $$$ aswell :goodjob:

[southside]

So are koni yellow better than Kyb agx?

[Papa_Smurf]

yea, and cost you more too. lol

[N/A EK]

tokico illuminas with ebay coilovers, horrible ride. Will upgrade to KYB's with skunk2 springs.

[KevinT707]

Ebay > #1 Nopi Coilovers Halfwit, duh!

I guess I'm the only one riding on Ebay coilovers and it's smooth, been riding like this for the past 3 years too. A few inches lower and rides just like stock, soft suspension with no bounce.

[cwhiteboy]

I have KYB Gr2 (Oem replacement) struts, and eibach pro-kit :( . I was short of cash. But when I redo my suspension it will be with koni yellows and GC's :goodjob: .
Although, my budget suspension has done pretty well at Autocrosses so far, and I havent blown out my struts yet. :D

[B_Hoov]

im dumped out on skunk 2 pro s coilovers 495$ shipped on egay, she rides rough as ****...but wont bottom out on large bumps and whoops such as bridges and freeway overpasses

[southside]

Ebay > #1 Nopi Coilovers Halfwit, duh!

I guess I'm the only one riding on Ebay coilovers and it's smooth, been riding like this for the past 3 years too. A few inches lower and rides just like stock, soft suspension with no bounce.I got ebays and they ride fine to me.Not all bouncey like most ppl are saying.But I wanted somthing that will handle in turns.I went to gc website dont seem like they sell the struts and coilovers together.Anyone know where I can find them?

[green91]

Kyb and Koni are both great shocks, the koni's get the advantage as far as the adjust ability being better, the kyb agx's knob doesn't give the range of adjustment like the yellows. that being said, if you like a stiff setting the kyb agx are still a great shock and cost a little less. ive ran the same set for nearly 5 years now

[southside]

Where can I get the GC setup?Or Do you have to buy coilovers and struts seperately?I looked on the GC website but I didnt see them together.

[N/A EK]

Where can I get the GC setup?Or Do you have to buy coilovers and struts seperately?I looked on the GC website but I didnt see them together.

seperately

[southside]

seperatelyOk I was wondering if they had complete setup.Anyone used Ksport or heard of them?

[green91]

the ksport are known to be junk.

[southside]

the ksport are known to be junk.Alot of people I have seen said they like them.But most say they are good on hondas and thats it.:thinking:

[00CelicaGT]

Skunk2 springs w/ KYB GR2's

[N/A EK]

Skunk2 springs w/ KYB GR2's

thats my next set up:goodjob:

[green91]

Alot of people I have seen said they like them.But most say they are good on hondas and thats it.:thinking:

There are several venders all selling these under different names.. all work decent at first but are quick to blow seals and dont perform very well on shock dynos.. for the money i believe there are better setups to be bought

[blaknoize]

All stock

[southside]

Skunk2 springs w/ KYB GR2'sSomone clear this up for me.I heard skunk2 ride like sh*t ,Ksport sucks,kyb GR2s are a joke.

[KevinT707]

I've read a lot of reviews from the KSports on H-T & haven't heard anything negative. A couple of my friends used them also (TSX & EK).

[Mad Mike]

I'm running on KYB GR2 struts and no name ebay lowering springs. Ride is a little stiff but feels ok.

[cwhiteboy]

KYB GR2's are Oem replacements. I have them on my car as previously stated. They've been through a couple rough autocrosses, and they still havent blown yet :D . Although i'm waiting for them to blow so my wife will let me get some konis :ninja: .

[jfrolang]

Ride quality is dependent on spring rates and damping. It is also a matter of opinion. I can't say anything about K-sports, but I don't think I'd buy them. GR-2s are not good shocks.

[southside]

KYB GR2's are Oem replacements. I have them on my car as previously stated. They've been through a couple rough autocrosses, and they still havent blown yet :D . Although i'm waiting for them to blow so my wife will let me get some konis :ninja: .haha:lmfao: she wont let you get them til those blow:boobies:

[southside]

I've read a lot of reviews from the KSports on H-T & haven't heard anything negative. A couple of my friends used them also (TSX & EK).how long have they had them?Some people say the seals blow quick.

[Mad Mike]

This car and my last car(heavy Mitsubishi) are running the KYB GR2s. I rode on them in the Mitsu. for 2 years (stock height) and 3.5 years lowered in my crx. No problems with them at all.

[southside]

Ride quality is dependent on spring rates and damping. It is also a matter of opinion. I can't say anything about K-sports, but I don't think I'd buy them. GR-2s are not good shocks.Why wouldnt you buy K-sports?

[cwhiteboy]

haha:lmfao: she wont let you get them til those blow:boobies:

Nope, shes the one pulling in all the money at the moment, soooooo... yeah. :rolleyes:

[southside]

Nope, shes the one pulling in all the money at the moment, soooooo... yeah. :rolleyes:lol couch potato!Naw my girls like that too.But If i keep asking she'll just be like get it.

[cwhiteboy]

[QUOTE=southside]lol couch potato!QUOTE]

LOL, man I wish. I'm trying to start a new business, of course, these things take time. :(

[N/A EK]

Somone clear this up for me.I heard skunk2 ride like sh*t ,Ksport sucks,kyb GR2s are a joke.

I had the KYB gr2's with skunk2 springs on my 01 civic and drove perfectly fine for me ... had it for about a yr n never had problems.

[00CelicaGT]

^^they have been on my car for 4yrs never had a problem. i dont feel GR2's are a OEM replacement cuz they are alot stiffer than OEM. my setup has been on plenty of mountain runs and autox events in 4 yrs. haven't let me down yet. but hey to each his own.

[jfrolang]

Why wouldnt you buy K-sports?
Because you can get Konis and Ground Controls, a proven and well-established combo, for about the same price. And you'll have all the adjustability you need with whatever spring rates you want.

[bigdare23]

EF hatch


OEM springs/OEM struts

[Black R]

i have apexi n1 coilovers for dc2r - front rates are 11k and rear rates are 16k.
I'm very pleased with them, but they're not for the faint.

i got a great deal on these or i'd have gone with the standard koni/ gc coilover route.....

[southside]

Because you can get Konis and Ground Controls, a proven and well-established combo, for about the same price. And you'll have all the adjustability you need with whatever spring rates you want.Yea thats true

[cwhiteboy]

i dont feel GR2's are a OEM replacement cuz they are alot stiffer than OEM.

And what are you basing this on, did you buy brand new struts and then switch over to the GR2's. ;) . Your somewhat right though, the GR2's are a little stiffer than factory, but not by much. I had a friend who put brand new factory struts on his ef, and I can remember it becoming pretty stiff compared to my then old worn out struts on my hf.

[southside]

Whats the difference between the Ground Controls Coilovers?Some say they are for konis and others are for stock.Whats different on them?

[StraightSix]

Whats the difference between the Ground Controls Coilovers?Some say they are for konis and others are for stock.Whats different on them?

Koni's lower spring perch is different from other shocks/struts. when you order GC's, you will order them based on the shocks/struts that they will go on, so there is a version for use with Konis and a version for use with dampers that aren't Koni.

[southside]

Well guess Ill be waiting I thought you could get them and ride stock struts.Til I saved for the konis.

[southside]

Anyone had teins before?

[southside]

NObody

[StraightSix]

Teins are crap. They problem with them is that they are engineered for Japanese roads which are much, much more smooth than ours, so the ride ends up being really harsh.

[southside]

thats first tiem ive heard that

[JDMJAYDC2]

i have full skunk2 race coilovers on my hatch smooth to me i love them

[StraightSix]

thats first tiem ive heard that

Probably because you've only ever talked to people who know squat about suspensions and what a good suspension is or isn't. JDM fanboys are all about the Teins because they wouldn't know a well designed damper/spring combo if it bit 'em in the ass. It's very important to make sure that the dampers used on a car can handle the spring rates, bad ride characteristics are the end result of a poorly matched system.

Another thing that a lot of "tuners" screw up is ride height. Too low is as bad for handling as too high. By and large, people with slammed cars are typically too low.

[Black R]

Teins are crap. They problem with them is that they are engineered for Japanese roads which are much, much more smooth than ours, so the ride ends up being really harsh.


y'know i've never thought that tein is crap.

i think the fact is that for an entry level setup like tein basics, people spend $800+ and well that's enough to get into a koni/gc combo. And the tein basics aren't the best quality if you look at the welds. They are ok, but not outstanding. Now if you move up into the RA, RE, etc, then you get a full aluminum body, with all kinds of adjustability, but then again you're spending closer to $2k. Also, the tein basics come with stiffer front springs and relatively soft rear springs - think 11kF and 5kR, which is counterintuitive to our thinking. But they also run staggered tire setups (like 225F and 195R) and large rear swaybars, and of course different toe and camber settings than we do. So all of these things gives them the handling bias they look for (read: no understeer), and the ability to rotate with the throttle.

The thing about japanese roads being smoother is definitely true, but that isn't the main reason I'm not a huge fan of tein - it's the fact that they have such low spring rates off the shelf. But of course I would love to have a set of tein N1 coilovers. Or Zeal Super Functions..... ;) I really like the ability to separately adjust preload and ride height - along with lower perch length; which is something not readily available on most usdm coilover kits.

[jfrolang]

I think that Black R and I can agree here.

[southside]

Probably because you've only ever talked to people who know squat about suspensions and what a good suspension is or isn't. JDM fanboys are all about the Teins because they wouldn't know a well designed damper/spring combo if it bit 'em in the ass. It's very important to make sure that the dampers used on a car can handle the spring rates, bad ride characteristics are the end result of a poorly matched system.

Another thing that a lot of "tuners" screw up is ride height. Too low is as bad for handling as too high. By and large, people with slammed cars are typically too low.My friend had tein full set up and it handled great and he is pretty damn low:thinking: .My other friend has tein coilovers and he's slammed his car rides fine with a little bounce but not alot hes also on 14"s.:thinking:

[jfrolang]

My friend had tein full set up and it handled great and he is pretty damn low:thinking: .My other friend has tein coilovers and he's slammed his car rides fine with a little bounce but not alot hes also on 14"s.:thinking:
So you have two friends with Teins that think they like them. What else have they had to compare them to?

[00CelicaGT]

I think that Black R and I can agree here.

X2

[southside]

So you have two friends with Teins that think they like them. What else have they had to compare them to?Ground controls one liked GC better the other didnt

[LIKEG6]

EGAY FTW

[StraightSix]

Ground controls one liked GC better the other didnt

But, GCs are just an adjustable height spring; the important thing to remember is that the the spring and damper have to work together. If the individual had the GCs on a factory strut, then it is very possible that the strut was poorly matched to the damper and resulted in some unfavorable ride qualities.

The other question to ask is what do these people really know about suspension setup? What one thinks is a good setup will likely change once the person learns what really goes into making a car handle well.

[DeeAOne]

my good friend used to have an EF with APC coilovers on stock struts. before you laugh however, they handle way better than you would think. stiff ride but in the corners it handled pretty well. :goodjob:

[southside]

But, GCs are just an adjustable height spring; the important thing to remember is that the the spring and damper have to work together. If the individual had the GCs on a factory strut, then it is very possible that the strut was poorly matched to the damper and resulted in some unfavorable ride qualities.

The other question to ask is what do these people really know about suspension setup? What one thinks is a good setup will likely change once the person learns what really goes into making a car handle well.If you say so man, you keep saying it like people dont know a good ride and good handling.

[StraightSix]

Because there are a lot of people who only think they know. Suspensions are complex things, and just because a product is advertised or just sold doesn't make it a good product.

I've learned a great deal, and have plenty left to learn, about springs, spring rates, dampers, damping rates and what does/doesn't work in the past several years. The biggest thing that I learned was that I had little clue as to what makes a good suspension setup and what doesn't. Having the money to buy Teins doesn't mean that person knows squat about suspensions.

Here's something to chew on, if Teins were so great, then why do the top running STS (that's an autocross class) and ITA (raod racing...SCCA specifically) cars all run Konis?

[southside]

Because there are a lot of people who only think they know. Suspensions are complex things, and just because a product is advertised or just sold doesn't make it a good product.

I've learned a great deal, and have plenty left to learn, about springs, spring rates, dampers, damping rates and what does/doesn't work in the past several years. The biggest thing that I learned was that I had little clue as to what makes a good suspension setup and what doesn't. Having the money to buy Teins doesn't mean that person knows squat about suspensions.

Here's something to chew on, if Teins were so great, then why do the top running STS (that's an autocross class) and ITA (raod racing...SCCA specifically) cars all run Konis?I dont know most people just get it because they say its a proven setup.But my friend that had his teins handled real good.But most people dont autocross anyways just regular drive and a few mountain runs everyonce and a while.

[00CelicaGT]

THEN WHY SPEND SO MUCH ON SUSPENSION... THAT WILL NEVER BE USED IN THE WAY IT WAS INTENED TO BE USED. IT'S A WASTE IMO, BUT THATS JUST ME.

[southside]

Yea thats true but I'd rather have a suspension that people can handle the abuse if need be.Than somthing cheap that wont handle good if I need it to.

[bigdare23]

Yea thats true but I'd rather have a suspension that people can handle the abuse if need be.Than somthing cheap that wont handle good if I need it to.




These cats are in here sharing knowledge on a subject you are lacking on. If I was you, I would listen, but you can do what you want :goodjob:

[green91]

Let him buy the super trendy teins, get the t-shirt, and drive it somewhere that counts. Then wish he'd bought something else!

[Papa_Smurf]

my good friend used to have an EF with APC coilovers on stock struts. before you laugh however, they handle way better than you would think. stiff ride but in the corners it handled pretty well. :goodjob:

i think thats what my dad might have..... i've looked @ them before and i cant tell what they are. But, no joke, they handle GREAT.

any way you could get a pic of ur buddys coilovers for me buddy?

[southside]

These cats are in here sharing knowledge on a subject you are lacking on. If I was you, I would listen, but you can do what you want :goodjob:Im listening already said I was purchasing konis and GC ,but was just saying my friend likes his teins.

[bigdare23]

Im listening already said I was purchasing konis and GC ,but was just saying my friend likes his teins.


Cool


As for your friend, how many suspension setup has he had? If the Teins was the only one, he has nothing else to compare to. I think thats the point everyone else was trying to make.

[southside]

Cool


As for your friend, how many suspension setup has he had? If the Teins was the only one, he has nothing else to compare to. I think thats the point everyone else was trying to make.He had ground controls first,then he bought the teins about 6 months later.He has the adjustable teins he got them for 500$

[jfrolang]

Like StraightSix was saying earlier, Ground Controls are just an adjustable height spring system. The spring rates and the dampers that they're matched to have much more to do with ride quality and handling than the brand of the sleeves.

**Just an example** If you bought second-hand Ground Controls with higher than standard spring rates and installed them on worn-out factory shocks, I would bet you'd be unhappy with the ride and think that Ground Controls are terrible. If you were to then replace that whole setup with Teins, it would seem that they're a great improvement.

[StraightSix]

Like StraightSix was saying earlier, Ground Controls are just an adjustable height spring system. The spring rates and the dampers that they're matched to have much more to do with ride quality and handling than the brand of the sleeves.

**Just an example** If you bought second-hand Ground Controls with higher than standard spring rates and installed them on worn-out factory shocks, I would bet you'd be unhappy with the ride and think that Ground Controls are terrible. If you were to then replace that whole setup with Teins, it would seem that they're a great improvement.

Jeff pretty much nailed it. A poorly matched spring/damper combo will have terrible ride and handling qualities. The springs essentially "overpower" the damper and the ride is all bouncy. A well matched system will properly slow the suspension travel in both bump and rebound.

As an example, KYB AGXs are fairly nice dampers, but for EFs they aren't so good. What they did was specify the same part number for the rear of EFs as they did for the rear of DAs, so when you use them on EFs the shock travel isn't quite right. IIRC, they end up bottoming under compression because EFs have less suspension travel than a DA, and when the car is lowered even less.

The point I've been trying to make is that for the money that most people pay for Teins there are much, much better suspension solutions available. Hell, even for what your buddy paid for his Teins, one can find a set of used Konis and GCs and be much better off.

[southside]

Someone said if you dont buy the top hats the GC and Konis ride like sh*t.Is that true im trying to see because ,my friend said the whole setup cost 1g with top hats.This is for a ef but last time I checked it was like 700$

[Black R]

not true. the extended tophats give additional travel before hitting the bumpstops - so you can go lower with them.

[bigdare23]

Jeff, tell them about the "proven" suspension setup everyone runs up there where you at. LOL

[jfrolang]

Jeff, tell them about the "proven" suspension setup everyone runs up there where you at. LOL
There are two types of Honda suspension "gurus" in Idaho. The first set is convinced that ebay coilovers + KYB AGX is an awesome setup, and anybody spending more is dumb. The second group clings like a monkey to the hairs on Tein's sack.


But back to southside's question, the extended upper mounts only give you more suspension travel. If you are a fan of the "slam it till you can't slam it no more" look, then you'll probably bottom out a lot and any suspension will ride like ass.

[southside]

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb148/corey20072007/HPIM0944-2.jpgthis is about as low as I wanna be well maybe a lil bit lower.I was wondering should I purchase top hats.And what you got jfro?ebay with agx lol or tein

[jfrolang]

And what you got jfro?ebay with agx lol or tein
See my thread (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175624). I have Konis + Ground Controls with 450/550 springs, and GC upper mounts.

[southside]

Nice why did you go with 450/550

[southside]

and does gc sell complete kit with konis

[jfrolang]

Why 450/550? Because I had 336/448 and I considered it soft in the front, so I stepped up to 450. I also wanted to maintain a similar gap in the rear spring rates, so they got bumped up to 550.

GC doesn't sell Konis. Panducky has a package deal or you could look on ebay for the best price on Konis.

[matthewAPM]

ITA civic

-Ground Control coilovers
-Eibach Springs (400F/550R rain, 600F/750R, 900F/1200R)
-Koni 3011 shocks
-Spherical bushings front and rear
-CRX HF front swaybar
-ST 24mm rear bar

STS civic

-Ground Control Coilovers
-Eibach Springs (450F/600R)
-Koni Yellow Race Valved/Shortened Shocks
-CRX HF Front sway bar with poly endlinks
-All Energy Suspension Black Poly bushings
-Ingalls rear camber arms
-Progress Rear 24mm Infinitely adjustable sway bar. Not the three holes like the ST – it’s a slot.
- GPO3 Red Glastic rear sway bar pillowblock mounts.

[green91]

i thought you didnt own civics anymore???

[southside]

Why 450/550? Because I had 336/448 and I considered it soft in the front, so I stepped up to 450. I also wanted to maintain a similar gap in the rear spring rates, so they got bumped up to 550.

GC doesn't sell Konis. Panducky has a package deal or you could look on ebay for the best price on Konis.thanks man I just want a nice firm ride.not something soft and bounce.But not somthing that everytime I hit a bump I go into shock.

[matthewAPM]

i thought you didnt own civics anymore???

not a STS civic...

[green91]

where did you find front spherical bushings? or did you buy this one already setup like your last one?

[matthewAPM]

where did you find front spherical bushings? or did you buy this one already setup like your last one?

nope. this one is getting built from the ground up. I got them from a road race guy. He took them off his car. when it was wrecked and got them from him. ill ask

[green91]

that would be great, ive seen the spherical trailing arm bushings, and rear LCA with them but never front LCA with sphericals. Id rather have spherical instead of the urethane bushings

[matthewAPM]

that would be great, ive seen the spherical trailing arm bushings, and rear LCA with them but never front LCA with sphericals. Id rather have spherical instead of the urethane bushings

oo yeah. spherical FTW. im ready for this thing to be done

[00CelicaGT]

thought u were getting a miatta

[matthewAPM]

thought u were getting a miatta

nope

[southside]

Why 450/550? Because I had 336/448 and I considered it soft in the front, so I stepped up to 450. I also wanted to maintain a similar gap in the rear spring rates, so they got bumped up to 550.

GC doesn't sell Konis. Panducky has a package deal or you could look on ebay for the best price on Konis.I couldnt find Panducky on ebay:thinking:

[green91]

thats why he said OR not look for panducky ON

[southside]

thats why he said OR not look for panducky ONNevermind I found it on panducky:D the package deal is 700 for koni reds,and 900 for koni yellows

[matthewAPM]

koni yellow FTW. great stuff if ur not that stiff. but for good rates, DONT use them. they cant handle it. the only way they work is to get the shorten and valved. I would just use koni 3011.

[KevinT707]

Recently I've been noticing that all the EF gurus (Jfrolang, Green91, Slowhatch) are not running the full coilovers from Omni/KSport/Function & Form and so now I'm starting lean more towards the Koni Yellow/GC combo with some stiff springs so I can conquer the mountains .. Hrmmm

Question for Slowhatch: Does the 500f/600r spring rates feel TOO stiff? Cause I ride my daily and don't want my back & neck hurting.

[jfrolang]

Here's my take on my 450/550 setup: It's fine for a street driven car, definitely firm, but not going to kill you. I have no reservations about going on a road trip, and no complaints during my daily commute. In the last auto-x I felt like the front was soft though... which means I'm eventually going to order 700 lb springs and get my Konis re-valved, and then I'll run 550/700. I don't trust the OTS Koni yellows beyond around 600 lbs, a friend of mine blew his rears out running 450/650.

Best thing I can recommend if you're unsure about what spring rates to buy is to take a ride with someone else that has a known setup.

[slow_hatch]

Question for Slowhatch: Does the 500f/600r spring rates feel TOO stiff? Cause I ride my daily and don't want my back & neck hurting.

No they aren't that stiff, if I would have had the money to get the race valved yellows, I would have gotten higher rates. 600lbs is about the limit of "OTS"(off the shelf) yellows. So I stuck with rates under that. Once I have the $$ i'll send them back and get them re valved and buy stiffer springs. BTW i've never even adjusted my shocks from the softest setting yet :thinking:

[KevinT707]

Best thing I can recommend if you're unsure about what spring rates to buy is to take a ride with someone else that has a known setup.
Ok cool, preciate the input my fellow EF Guru! I might just steal your 450/550 combination.


No they aren't that stiff .. BTW i've never even adjusted my shocks from the softest setting yet :thinking:
Oh really, so since it's on softest then no wonder you say they're not that stiff. Turn them all the way stiff foo! I'm thinking your ride might be a tad too stiff for me but I want/should ride with you to find out for myself. Are you coming to the Varsity Meet on Thurs? Perhaps you could take me for a ride then.. Man, I'm getting sucked into the world of 'curves'

[Code-Aye]

you mean what suspension are you rocking on your EE's, or ED?
hahaha

[Revmaynard]

you mean what suspension are you rocking on your EE's, or ED?
hahaha

Just like your car is JDMmadness.:rolleyes:

[bigdare23]

owned LOLOLOL

[cwhiteboy]

Just like your car is JDMmadness.:rolleyes:

:lmfao:

[slow_hatch]

Ok cool, preciate the input my fellow EF Guru! I might just steal your 450/550 combination.


Oh really, so since it's on softest then no wonder you say they're not that stiff. Turn them all the way stiff foo! I'm thinking your ride might be a tad too stiff for me but I want/should ride with you to find out for myself. Are you coming to the Varsity Meet on Thurs? Perhaps you could take me for a ride then.. Man, I'm getting sucked into the world of 'curves'

Well the spring rates are what will determine how STIFF the car is. The shocks only control the rate of rebound and the ride height doesn't effect ride unless your low enough to be hitting the bumps stops or bottoming out. I may come down to the V, but at the moment its not looking promising.

[southside]

I hope I get to make it to the V Next time.Im praying HOPEFULLY somones LISTENING

[matthewAPM]

Recently I've been noticing that all the EF gurus (Jfrolang, Green91, Slowhatch) are not running the full coilovers from Omni/KSport/Function & Form and so now I'm starting lean more towards the Koni Yellow/GC combo with some stiff springs so I can conquer the mountains .. Hrmmm

Question for Slowhatch: Does the 500f/600r spring rates feel TOO stiff? Cause I ride my daily and don't want my back & neck hurting.

Its depends on what you call stiff and what shocks you are using. dont go over 550lb on OTS yellows. 3011 or custom yellow for something higher.

and I would make the rates 500F/650R.

[southside]

500/650r would be with modded yellows

[matthewAPM]

500/650r would be with modded yellows

wow. you CANT read. you fail

[southside]

that was a question because what I read wasnt so clear.:chuckles:

[dustinkelley]

i know im posting on all of yalls ef squad stuff but im looking for some front struts for my car anyone got a reasonable price bought the wrong ones for my hatch its just like uproots to give you an idea.....
PM ME

[LIKEG6]

I think I'm gonna go with some PIC's. My buddy has some and they look/ride great

[dustinkelley]

well pm me if you know anyone that has some for sale i need some really just the struts mainly front ones but if after market i want all four but keep in mind if you want as much as new ill just by new ones!!!thanks

[southside]

stop thread jacking and make your own:2up:

[Black R]

fwiw, this article has direct bearing on this thread:

http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets6.html


BigDare, you might also want to add this to the FAQ.....

[SE-Rious©]

skunk2's on dropzones modified cup to sit lower.

[southside]

my friend is going to give me some sprint springs they were on his car had him pretty low tho

[sakasaku]

stock till monday

[southside]

what u put on there ! :thinking: then

[jfrolang]

Monday was two days ago, he posted on Sunday.

[southside]

Monday was two days ago, he posted on Sunday.fixed!

[eva6206213]

thank you for your sharing~~~~~~~~

[southside]

ttt

[LIKEG6]

ttt

lol wtf?

noob

[southside]

lol wtf?

noobLOL got bored seems so dead in here so tried to :dj: :bigdance:
Livin it up some