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BobbyFresco
06-20-2008, 04:56 PM
Is it just me or does anyone else get a little annoyed by the incorrect usage of chassis code by someone to describe what Honda they drive?

I know JDM or ebaydm is all the rage these days but unless you drive a real right hand drive Honda Civic hatch be it a Type R or Sir, you shouldn't be calling it an EG or EK.( The only usdm cars that have the distinction of being called an EG are the Del Sol and 4 door d15 equipped Civics of that time period).


Disclaimer: I'm not hating on Hondas.


Discuss.

.blank cd
06-20-2008, 05:13 PM
reps, thank you for posting this. This is a must read for everyone who "thinks" they know hondas. Im so sick of hearing "yeah check out my EK..."


edit: rep ninja says i gotta spread teh lub

.blank cd
06-20-2008, 05:17 PM
This also includes those of you who think you drive EF's. You drive EEs

X-Runner
06-20-2008, 05:29 PM
So set me straight then. What is my 94 4 door LX?

.blank cd
06-20-2008, 05:29 PM
check your vin#

Vteckidd
06-20-2008, 05:34 PM
no its because you don't know how this all originated. Jdm is where all chassis codes and designs originate so that's why we use those codes. Ek refers to CHASSIS code NOT vin number. Jdm cars don't have vins. So you are wrong the chassis never changes and has nothing to do with vin or us cars

TypeRPersonality
06-20-2008, 05:34 PM
Agreed. But I'd rather people just refer to their cars as what it is. For instance, I drive a 99 Prelude SH, no need to refer to it as a BB6, although it is ;)

Vteckidd
06-20-2008, 05:35 PM
check your vin#
wrong that's got nothing to do with chassis code

.blank cd
06-20-2008, 05:38 PM
wrong that's got nothing to do with chassis codeIt has your chassis code in it:goodjob:

.blank cd
06-20-2008, 05:39 PM
:thinking:
no its because you don't know how this all originated. Jdm is where all chassis codes and designs originate so that's why we use those codes. Ek refers to CHASSIS code NOT vin number. Jdm cars don't have vins. So you are wrong the chassis never changes and has nothing to do with vin or us cars

BobbyFresco
06-20-2008, 05:40 PM
CIVIC USDM/JDM DESIGNATORS

Chassis Motor Origin Year Vehicle

4G (1988-1991)
ED3 1.5L USDM All 4-door DX/LX
ED4 1.6L USDM All 4-door EX
ED6 1.5L USDM All 3-door Standard
ED7 1.6L USDM All 3-door Si
ED8 1.5L USDM All CRX standard / HF
ED9 1.6L USDM All CRX Si
EE2 1.5L USDM All Wagon
EE4 1.6L USDM All Wagon 4WD
EF1 D13B JDM All Civic ?
EF2 D15B JDM All Civic ? / CR-X
EF3 n/a JDM All Civic ? / CR-X Si (ZC DOHC)
EF6 D15B JDM All Civic ? / CR-X
EF7 n/a JDM All Civic ? / CR-X Si (ZC DOHC)
EF8 B16A JDM All Civic ? / CR-X
EF9 B16A JDM All Civic ? / CR-X

5G (1992-1995)
EG1 D15B JDM All 3-door/4-door/CR-X
EG1 D15B8 USDM 1993-1995 del Sol (8-valve)
EG1 D15B7 USDM 1993-1995 del Sol S (SOHC)
EG1 D15Z1 USDM 1993-1995 del Sol VTEC-E (SOHC)
EG2 B16A JDM All 3-door/4-door/CR-X
EG2 B16A3 USDM 1994-1995 del Sol VTEC (DOHC)
EG3 D13B JDM All 3-door/4-door
EG4 D15B JDM All 3-door/4-door/CR-X
EG5 n/a JDM All ? (ZC DOHC)
EG6 B16A JDM All 3-door/4-door/CR-X
EG7 D13B JDM All 3-door/4-door
EG8 D15B JDM All 3-door/4-door/CR-X
EG8 D15B7 USDM All 4-door DX/LX
EG9 B16A JDM All 3-door/4-door/del Sol CR-X
EH1 n/a JDM All 4-door/4WD (ZC DOHC)
EH2 1.5L USDM All 3-door CX/VX/DX
EH3 D16Z6 USDM 1993-1995 3-door Si
EH6 D16Z6 USDM 1993-1995 del Sol Si (SOHC)
EH9 D16Z6 USDM All 4-door EX
EJ1 D16Z6 USDM All 2-door EX
EJ2 1.5L USDM All 2-door DX

6G (1996-2000)
EG1 D15B8 USDM 1996-1997 del Sol (8-valve)
EG1 D15B7 USDM 1996-1997 del Sol S (SOHC)
EG1 D15Z1 USDM 1996-1997 del Sol VTEC-E (SOHC)
EG2 B16A2 USDM 1996-1997 del Sol VTEC (DOHC)
EH6 D16Z6 USDM 1993-1995 del Sol Si (SOHC)
EJ1 D16A JDM All 2-door
EJ3 n/a JDM All 2-door / 4WD

EJ6 D16Y7 CANADA All 2-door DX/Si
EJ6 D16Y7 CANADA 2000 2-door DX-G
EJ6 D16Y7 CANADA 1996-1998 3-door CX/CX-G
EJ6 D16Y7 CANADA 1999-2000 3-door CX/DX
EJ6 D16Y7 CANADA 2000 3-door SE
EJ6 D16Y7 CANADA All 4-door LX/EX
EJ6 D16Y7 USDM All 3-door CX/DX
EJ6 D16Y7 USDM All 4-door DX/LX
EJ6 D16Y7 USDM 1999 4-door DX-V
EJ7 D16Y5 USDM All 2-door HX (VTEC-E)
EJ8 D16Y8 CANADA All 2-door EX
EJ8 D16Y8 USDM All 2-door/4-door EX
EK2 D13B JDM All 3-door/4-door
EK3 D15B JDM All 3-door/4-door
EK4 B16A JDM All 3-door/4-door
EK5 D16A JDM All 4-door 4WD/LEV
EK8 D16A JDM All 4-door 4WD/LEV
EK9 B16B JDM All 3-door Type-R EM1 B16A2 CANADA 1999-2000 2-door SiR
EM1 B16A2 USDM 1999-2000 2-door Si



/ of story.

BobbyFresco
06-20-2008, 05:55 PM
and furthermore, Japanese cars do have vin #'s...They are displayed on the Vin plates....

.blank cd
06-20-2008, 06:12 PM
and furthermore, Japanese cars do have vin #'s...They are displayed on the Vin plates....troof. I have an Accord SiR vinplate w/ a vin # on it

Vteckidd
06-20-2008, 06:17 PM
you answered your own questions.

People use the CHASSIS code for THEIR car.

For instance, the highest model 96-00 civic is an EK9 aka Civic Type-R. There are are over 15 different models of civics, from 4 doors to hatches from 96-00.

Rather than confuse everyone by using 15+ different variations of codes, you would use the EK for ALL HATCHBACKS and EM for all COUPEs.

Same FOR 92-95

Same for EFs etc.

Now some people get super technical and say EF8 or EF7 or EF9, but the numbers oly designate the model (b16, ZC, SOHC, etc)

EK is still the CHASSIS code. USDM cars operate by VIN number which is different than JDM designations.

Sure if you want to be nit picky you can say US EKs are called EJs because that is in their VIN, but again, like i said, the chassis CODE IS EK.

Its really slang and if you are into hondas you know what it means.

Vteckidd
06-20-2008, 06:19 PM
and furthermore, Japanese cars do have vin #'s...They are displayed on the Vin plates....
LOL

So they dont have VIN #s but they have VIN PLATES?

Hey, i owned a JDM SIlvia, the "vin plate" as you call it is just its chassis number an code. its stamped on the firewall an usually on hondas on the radiator support.

its not really a "vin" which is a vehicle identification number

BobbyFresco
06-20-2008, 06:23 PM
you answered your own questions.

People use the CHASSIS code for THEIR car.

For instance, the highest model 96-00 civic is an EK9 aka Civic Type-R. There are are over 15 different models of civics, from 4 doors to hatches from 96-00.

Rather than confuse everyone by using 15+ different variations of codes, you would use the EK for ALL HATCHBACKS and EM for all COUPEs.

Same FOR 92-95

Same for EFs etc.

Now some people get super technical and say EF8 or EF7 or EF9, but the numbers oly designate the model (b16, ZC, SOHC, etc)

EK is still the CHASSIS code. USDM cars operate by VIN number which is different than JDM designations.

Sure if you want to be nit picky you can say US EKs are called EJs because that is in their VIN, but again, like i said, the chassis CODE IS EK.

Its really slang and if you are into hondas you know what it means.


I'm very into so Honda's, have owned before, currently do, and I'm sure I always will.

I consider myself to know a pretty reasonable amount on these cars but if you were to go to another forum where there are ppl that are waaaaaaaaay more knowledgeable about this issue, they would say the same thing I am saying....


Go over to Honda-tech or nwp4life and see if those guys don't say the same thing.:goodjob:

Vteckidd
06-20-2008, 06:25 PM
yes you are right if you are trying to ne really technical and you are taking it out of context. No one is going to say they own a ej2 or a eg7. Theywill just say eg or ek again its pure slang .
If you are into hondas you know what it means when its used.

BobbyFresco
06-20-2008, 06:27 PM
LOL

So they dont have VIN #s but they have VIN PLATES?

Hey, i owned a JDM SIlvia, the "vin plate" as you call it is just its chassis number an code. its stamped on the firewall an usually on hondas on the radiator support.

its not really a "vin" which is a vehicle identification number


Congrats on having owned a Silvia but apparently your Honda knowledge is limited...You say ppl use whatever designations like slang. OK.

Let me use an analogy. Ebonics is slang. One can usually determine what is being said but those of us who nit pick as you call it, would rather see proper language usage, correct?

Vteckidd
06-20-2008, 06:30 PM
I'm very into so Honda's, have owned before, currently do, and I'm sure I always will.

I consider myself to know a pretty reasonable amount on these cars but if you were to go to another forum where there are ppl that are waaaaaaaaay more knowledgeable about this issue, they would say the same thing I am saying....


Go over to Honda-tech or nwp4life and see if those guys don't say the same thing.:goodjob:
I'm on ht been there for eons. Nwp is a hardcore jdm site of course they are overly technical.

The only people that care this much about of are usually elitist pricks trying to prove some stupid point.

No offense of course

BobbyFresco
06-20-2008, 06:33 PM
I'm seriously not trying to be a prick so I hope that you're not taking what I'm saying in that context....However, I disagree strongly with your argument/point of view....

BobbyFresco
06-20-2008, 06:34 PM
I'm on ht been there for eons. Nwp is a hardcore jdm site of course they are overly technical.

The only people that care this much about of are usually elitist pricks trying to prove some stupid point.

No offense of course

No offense taken...I'd rather be an elitist prick than a wannabe JDM poser...:cheers:

Vteckidd
06-20-2008, 06:34 PM
Congrats on having owned a Silvia but apparently your Honda knowledge is limited...You say ppl use whatever designations like slang. OK.
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lol was that an attempt at an insult? Your right I am more known for making power than my knowledge of chassis codes haha

Vteckidd
06-20-2008, 06:36 PM
No offense taken...I'd rather be an elitist prick than a wannabe JDM poser...:cheers:
Good luck in your campaign

TypeRPersonality
06-20-2008, 06:40 PM
Although I understand Mr. KiDD's point. Some people take it far out of context and refer to their Civic sedans as EK's. That's where it gets annoying and confusing. I can deal with people calling their hatchbacks EK's, but come on, just call it a hatchback.

BobbyFresco
06-20-2008, 06:49 PM
Although I understand Mr. KiDD's point. Some people take it far out of context and refer to their Civic sedans as EK's. That's where it gets annoying and confusing. I can deal with people calling their hatchbacks EK's, but come on, just call it a hatchback.

Absolutely...Nothing more annoying that someone referring to their sedan as an EK sedan or coupe as an EK coupe....

BobbyFresco
06-20-2008, 06:50 PM
Good luck in your campaign


Thank you!;)

Vteckidd
06-20-2008, 07:02 PM
Likewise what really annoys me is people that say they drive a EK7 or a EF8

Why not just call it an EK or an EF

I personally call all 96+ civic 2 doors EKs, its just easier.

I call all 2 door civic EGs, rarely do i say EJ for the coupes

I call all 88-91 CRX or Civics EFs

I call all 94+ 2 Door Integras DC2s

Its just so much easier that way. Most people know what you are talking about in contect of the conversation.

BobbyFresco
06-20-2008, 07:10 PM
Likewise what really annoys me is people that say they drive a EK7 or a EF8

Why not just call it an EK or an EF

I personally call all 96+ civic 2 doors EKs, its just easier.

I call all 2 door civic EGs, rarely do i say EJ for the coupes

I call all 88-91 CRX or Civics EFs

I call all 94+ 2 Door Integras DC2s

Its just so much easier that way. Most people know what you are talking about in contect of the conversation.



I have heard ppl call their Civic Dx's Ek9's....LOL Which makes no sense at all considering it's not a Type R...
If you're going to use a chassis code at least use the right number designated with said chassis code....

Truthfully this shyt doesn't keep me up at night but it just annoys me....
Just listening to ppl talk about their cars when they have no idea wtf they're talking about when you know different is really funny, particularly when a used car salesman uses this terminology...

southside
06-20-2008, 07:44 PM
This also includes those of you who think you drive EF's. You drive EEs:wgaf:But since you wanna get technical and be a **** about it actually I drive a ED6:welcome::chuckles:

whizkid
06-20-2008, 07:46 PM
wheres the prelude codes? Guess preludes got disowned:lmfao:




CIVIC USDM/JDM DESIGNATORS

Chassis Motor Origin Year Vehicle

4G (1988-1991)
ED3 1.5L USDM All 4-door DX/LX
ED4 1.6L USDM All 4-door EX
ED6 1.5L USDM All 3-door Standard
ED7 1.6L USDM All 3-door Si
ED8 1.5L USDM All CRX standard / HF
ED9 1.6L USDM All CRX Si
EE2 1.5L USDM All Wagon
EE4 1.6L USDM All Wagon 4WD
EF1 D13B JDM All Civic ?
EF2 D15B JDM All Civic ? / CR-X
EF3 n/a JDM All Civic ? / CR-X Si (ZC DOHC)
EF6 D15B JDM All Civic ? / CR-X
EF7 n/a JDM All Civic ? / CR-X Si (ZC DOHC)
EF8 B16A JDM All Civic ? / CR-X
EF9 B16A JDM All Civic ? / CR-X

5G (1992-1995)
EG1 D15B JDM All 3-door/4-door/CR-X
EG1 D15B8 USDM 1993-1995 del Sol (8-valve)
EG1 D15B7 USDM 1993-1995 del Sol S (SOHC)
EG1 D15Z1 USDM 1993-1995 del Sol VTEC-E (SOHC)
EG2 B16A JDM All 3-door/4-door/CR-X
EG2 B16A3 USDM 1994-1995 del Sol VTEC (DOHC)
EG3 D13B JDM All 3-door/4-door
EG4 D15B JDM All 3-door/4-door/CR-X
EG5 n/a JDM All ? (ZC DOHC)
EG6 B16A JDM All 3-door/4-door/CR-X
EG7 D13B JDM All 3-door/4-door
EG8 D15B JDM All 3-door/4-door/CR-X
EG8 D15B7 USDM All 4-door DX/LX
EG9 B16A JDM All 3-door/4-door/del Sol CR-X
EH1 n/a JDM All 4-door/4WD (ZC DOHC)
EH2 1.5L USDM All 3-door CX/VX/DX
EH3 D16Z6 USDM 1993-1995 3-door Si
EH6 D16Z6 USDM 1993-1995 del Sol Si (SOHC)
EH9 D16Z6 USDM All 4-door EX
EJ1 D16Z6 USDM All 2-door EX
EJ2 1.5L USDM All 2-door DX

6G (1996-2000)
EG1 D15B8 USDM 1996-1997 del Sol (8-valve)
EG1 D15B7 USDM 1996-1997 del Sol S (SOHC)
EG1 D15Z1 USDM 1996-1997 del Sol VTEC-E (SOHC)
EG2 B16A2 USDM 1996-1997 del Sol VTEC (DOHC)
EH6 D16Z6 USDM 1993-1995 del Sol Si (SOHC)
EJ1 D16A JDM All 2-door
EJ3 n/a JDM All 2-door / 4WD

EJ6 D16Y7 CANADA All 2-door DX/Si
EJ6 D16Y7 CANADA 2000 2-door DX-G
EJ6 D16Y7 CANADA 1996-1998 3-door CX/CX-G
EJ6 D16Y7 CANADA 1999-2000 3-door CX/DX
EJ6 D16Y7 CANADA 2000 3-door SE
EJ6 D16Y7 CANADA All 4-door LX/EX
EJ6 D16Y7 USDM All 3-door CX/DX
EJ6 D16Y7 USDM All 4-door DX/LX
EJ6 D16Y7 USDM 1999 4-door DX-V
EJ7 D16Y5 USDM All 2-door HX (VTEC-E)
EJ8 D16Y8 CANADA All 2-door EX
EJ8 D16Y8 USDM All 2-door/4-door EX
EK2 D13B JDM All 3-door/4-door
EK3 D15B JDM All 3-door/4-door
EK4 B16A JDM All 3-door/4-door
EK5 D16A JDM All 4-door 4WD/LEV
EK8 D16A JDM All 4-door 4WD/LEV
EK9 B16B JDM All 3-door Type-R EM1 B16A2 CANADA 1999-2000 2-door SiR
EM1 B16A2 USDM 1999-2000 2-door Si



/ of story.

southside
06-20-2008, 07:50 PM
Likewise what really annoys me is people that say they drive a EK7 or a EF8

Why not just call it an EK or an EF

I personally call all 96+ civic 2 doors EKs, its just easier.

I call all 2 door civic EGs, rarely do i say EJ for the coupes

I call all 88-91 CRX or Civics EFs

I call all 94+ 2 Door Integras DC2s

Its just so much easier that way. Most people know what you are talking about in contect of the conversation.:stupid:

southside
06-20-2008, 07:52 PM
wheres the prelude codes? Guess preludes got disowned:lmfao::stfu:

chameleon30038
06-20-2008, 08:15 PM
Make life simple drive an EM1 like i do there is no questioning what it is...lol!!

green91
06-20-2008, 08:25 PM
I use them more as a chassis generation designation more than a model designation. I can tell people i have an EF and they know that i mean a 88-91 Civic/CRX. Saying that my cars are ED6 is just getting bogged into details

Vteckidd
06-20-2008, 08:28 PM
I use them more as a chassis generation designation more than a model designation. I can tell people i have an EF and they know that i mean a 88-91 Civic/CRX. Saying that my cars are ED6 is just getting bogged into details
:cheers:

Mr. Clean
06-20-2008, 09:20 PM
i drive an eg2... i have distinction :ninja:

JITB
06-21-2008, 01:00 AM
whatever happen to

i drive a 95 coupe

i drive a 88 civic hatch



wow i just looked at the chassis code list posted, and realized how many people have been saying Ek
i drive a 93 integra sedan

DeeAOne
06-21-2008, 01:12 AM
lol, i call all 4th gen accords cb7's, even though the wagon is a cb9 i believe, or cb3. hell im not sure. lol just too confusing.

Nerdsrock22
06-21-2008, 01:58 AM
GD3 takes longer to say than Fit. but I wouldn't want some JDM fanboy to think I was driving the European 7-speed Diesel GD4.

then i would be pwnd! :rolleyes:

BobbyFresco
06-21-2008, 02:00 AM
GD3 takes longer to say than Fit. but I wouldn't want some JDM fanboy to think I was driving the European 7-speed Diesel GD4.

then i would be pwnd! :rolleyes:


Hey now...You have a bit of jdm fanboy in you.....:lmfao:

It's all good, homie...:cheers:

Nerdsrock22
06-21-2008, 02:02 AM
Hey now...You have a bit of jdm fanboy in you.....:lmfao:


oh crap did you see my domokun?! :ninja:

BobbyFresco
06-21-2008, 02:08 AM
oh crap did you see my domokun?! :ninja:



:ninja:

LongLiveH2b
06-21-2008, 03:07 AM
technically i have a EJ1, i'd rather tell ppl i have a EG coupe:goodjob: ,EG hatch,EGfourdr, etc.,it's less confusing and faster when talking to others with less knowledge of a certain car:thinking: , nissan 240's have their own thing too,im not sure but it's like rms13,rps13,etc. yadda yadda, one's a coupe/hatch(fastback), but if im talkin to a nissan person, i'd rather hear s13coupe/hatch,s14,etc......................:goodjob:

1SOL2NV
06-21-2008, 04:25 PM
EG1 D15B8 USDM 1993-1995 del Sol (8-valve)
EG1 D15Z1 USDM 1993-1995 del Sol VTEC-E (SOHC)

^^^^^^^ these motors never came in del sols .... rethink it .

Eg1 - Del sol S Model - D15b7
Eh6 - Del sol Si model - D16z6
Eg2 - Del sol Vtec model - B16a2/3


i hate when people call DEL SOL VTEC and it has a SOHC motor in it ..... :screwy:

BobbyFresco
06-21-2008, 06:27 PM
EG1 D15B8 USDM 1993-1995 del Sol (8-valve)
EG1 D15Z1 USDM 1993-1995 del Sol VTEC-E (SOHC)

^^^^^^^ these motors never came in del sols .... rethink it .

Eg1 - Del sol S Model - D15b7
Eh6 - Del sol Si model - D16z6
Eg2 - Del sol Vtec model - B16a2/3


i hate when people call DEL SOL VTEC and it has a SOHC motor in it ..... :screwy:


I didn't personally make this list but after doing some quick research I found those models you so smugly pointed out to be Canadian market Del Sols....:goodjob:


Edit: After doing a little more digging what I just said is wrong as well....:thinking:

My bad.