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DeutscheBAG!
06-19-2008, 11:25 AM
So, this thread started on vwvortex about this guy getting his car booted on the nightbourhood he lives in and refuses to pay the removal since.
but now this thread has made it to every car forum around the world.

the story

As I told myself I'd never live in a HOA community here I am. After a year here they forced upon us that we had to pay for parking passes to park outside. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ There's over 700 homes.

Gee, I wounder why they did that?

So you have to display your pass or you get booted, by an outsider company not associated with the HOA, they just won the contract. As the schmucks drive though they look for the obvious outsiders looking to park (visitors) and boot them, and milk the cows. "That will be $140 Sir to remove the boot."

Well, it's just a long day @ work, your mind is busy, you park and don't put your pass on your rear view. They throw 2 boots on you, a large display sticker, phone # and $140 removal fee. I've parked in the same spot for 3 months, always displayed, they know the car, a extensively modified Audi parked in the same spot for 3 months with a displayed pass. It's a no brainier I have a pass.

Gee, I wounder why the pass isn't a permanent sticker?

Now, why wouldn't I always keep the pass hanging from my rearveiw? Being in the top 10 auto theft capitals in the country, I'm not comfortable DISPLAYING where I live when the community is displayed in the largest characters on the pass.

The plastered WARNING sticker on the window mentions you will be pentilzed to the fullest of law if you remove or damage the boots. So I called the cops.........only one.....but she said I can not damage the the boots, however nothing illegal about removing them.


You know the case, if you don't pay up evenly you'll get towed,so.......

I'm just going to get some f-ing dollys, install them and push the freaking Audi right into the garage you bsaterds. Give them a call to come get their num nut boots..........................and the Audi is undergoing a semi-rebuild....I don't need them off...they won't bother me keeping them on....I don't need to drive it.....a waiting game means nothing.

I own my home, they can not come on the individual property unless I grant permission, and they can not tow it as it'll be in the garage.

Discuss


Currently outside with 2 boots on it, it'll just look like this again with boots on it, same spot.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/Audibodykit-1.jpg



Modified by The A1 and A2 German at 2:01 AM 6-10-2008


http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3880087

Its a vey LONG READ some im posting up some BTLFED notes someone created

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HELLO KIDDIES!

Over 4,000 hits in less then a day, think we're onto something. To answer some on the questions:

-My HOA is over $1,500 a year

-There is no STREETparking per-say, every spot is a stripped parking spot just like retail parking. There is no congestion each side of the street parking, aka, narrowing down a street.

-The HOA is not associated with the parking Nazis, however may and not sure, be able to place fines on top for giving problems.


I do have one problem, I need a raditator in the next 5 hours to get to work tomorrow in my Jetta (since I wouldn't be driving the Audi). The radiator I just order showed up broken. If not I'll either have to cough up the $140 or call the cops and have it removed and the Nazis can try filing against me.

If I can get a radiator here soon, the dollies are right down the street and the next picture you'll see will be an Audi in a garage with boots.
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HELLO KIDDIES

The streets are with-in a closed community, all gated with-in HOA.

Yeah, no club house, no gym, no amenities, no outgoing mailboxes.

YEAH! YOU HAVE TO DRIVE 2.5 MILES TO MAIL A LETTER!
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UPDATE KIDDIES

I HAVE A RADIATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOING TO INSTALL IT, AND RUN DOWN AND BUY DOLLIES!!!!!!!!


So I called the cops again, and also conformed it with the police supervisor. Unless damage is done to the unit, the matter is civil. I told them about the dollies, there is nothing illegal about it, once again civil.


So the phone call is going to go something like this:

-Yes, you booted my car, come down and get your boots if you want them.

-Sir, that's going to be $140 to remove them

-Oh, I don't need them removed

-Sir, after 72 hours you vehicle will be towed

-Oh, I don't know how your going to do that with it in my garage

-Sir, uhhhhhhh, what Sir???????????????
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UPDATE KIDDIES!


EDIT: I figured I'd add some text so I'm not leaving everyone hanging. So here's the deal, as much as I'd like, and easy as it would be to remove the boots with my professional angle grinder it is against the law. It's not that I respect the law or generally even care about it , (I respect laws of humanity, not dumping oil, animals, etc, and therefor), but breaking the law is just going to turn nightmare. Not that I wouldn't, it's cutting them off isn't worth ~$1,500 or whatever amount they toss. They also photograph your car (with plate) during the citation, so I'm more then just a piece of paper floating around in someones citation book.

The boot company is left in the dark , they don't know wtf is going on, haven't told them squat. Remember, I don't need to drive the Audi, as a matter of fact I was supposed to be putting her on blocks the day it got booted for work and keeping it that way.

The HOA doesn't know it's gone , however, someone I'm somewhat cool with before this went down I convinced to get on the board and is on there now saw the Audi on dollies and did call me about it. So.....is he going to rat me out?

So I called the HOA Community manger, and keep in mind this is not actually the HOA booting cars but a contractor...errrrr......wait a minute........Hitler didn't do any of the killing himself......not responsible......some one else did it....she's off the hook....oh wait, no, and, ....duh..duh...duh...I have a private meeting not only with her but the whole HOA board , who for all I know, know nothing about the dollies.


-Blake Edwards, it's come to our attention you've some how managed to place your Audi in the garage, why did you do that?

-I had to vacuum the carpet.
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DeutscheBAG!
06-19-2008, 11:26 AM
Moar!
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UPDATE KIDDIES

So my boy pulls into the complex and past The Spot Of Their Misfortune.

-Yo Blake
-What's up?
-Where you car was, there's now 3 APS (Arizona Parking Solutions) patrol cars, and a 4th, a rent-a-cop standing in what was your booted spot.
-Yeah, what are the doing?
-Standing around, just standing in the spot, looking around.
-Yeah?
-One looks like a manager, supervisor, or someone important writing on a clip board, they do NOT look happy.
-(Me Laughing)
-Yeah man, they look pissed, some guy is slacks and a polo shirt jotting stuff down on a clip board.
-Sweet, time to go for a walk

As I go to the mail box to get mail I didn't have, The Head Schmuck is getting into his car, *cough, *cough, where I was, backed out and left. The other car is ready to take off, has lights on, engine running, put car in gear. I get my phantom mail and he sees me, walk past back, he kills the lights and motor, and just stays there as I walk by with out incident. I almost approuched them and asked, " You guys want to come get your boots?"

Going to bed.
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UPDATE KIDDIES

So I called them, a long conversion, so I'll try to remember it in order :

Ring..ring...ring

-HEY! ARE YOU DOING! (Happy!)
-Uh... (surprised)...I'm doing alright...pause.....pause....pause....
-Yeah! I'm doing alright too!!!!
-What can we do for you?
-Yeah, I'm down here @ the Villaigo @ Tempe, you guys want to come get your boots?
-Yes, I can be there shorlty.
-Alright, I won't be home till later.
-Sure, there will some one else working, what kind of car?
-An Audi
-Oh.........pause.....pause.......where is your car?
-It's here, you guys want to come get your boots?
-Uh.......so the boots are in your trunk?
-No
-So they are on the set of wheels in the trunk?
-No
-So you stole them?
-No
-So they are not on your wheels?
-Yes, they are on my wheels?
-Where are your wheels?
-On the car
-Where is your car?
-I moved it
-YEAH! I saw the picture you sent me, it's in your garage!
-Yeah, there's somethings floating around on the internet, however I didn't send that. So you want to come get your boots?
-Well, I'm sure your going to need to drive your Audi.
-No
-So you moved your car?
-Yes
-Had did you move it?
- I've been working out
-(He busts up laughing!!!)))))))))))))))))))))Ah, come on man, how did you move it?
-Well, I saw it booted, ran down and picked up some Creatine, been taking it for 3 days, that's stuff works great!
-(Laughing again) So, how did you move it?
-I have my ways
-Come on man, how did you move it?
-I have my ways
-Oh, come on, how did you get it in your garage, I've checked out that Audi before(<---------), I know you couldn't of pushed it.
-Don't worry, I havn't touched the locks.
-That's good.
-I'll be home around 7:30 P.M., you can give me call me then.

It's 3:30 P.M., tune Kiddies!
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Originally Posted by 54-46
Why is that so hard to understand? OP agreed to the rules; OP made a mistake; OP was penalized as he knew (by the rules) he should be.
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NO I DIDN'T, RULES WHERE PUT IN PLACE WITH OUT PERMISSION 1 YEAR AFTER LIVING ON THE PROPERTY.

UPDATE KIDDIES, CHIT HITS THE FAN BIG TIME


So 7:30 P.M. rolls around and they call me to see if I'm home, tell them I'm in traffic, got home @ 7:45 and they showed up.

4 APS Patrol cars and the Sheriff pull up to my open garage, 5 APS officers and the head Schmuck.

(The before happening occurred over 2 hours .)

-Hello, you guys want your boots?
-Yes, that will be $140 to remove them.
-Naaaaaa, you can take them though.
-Your in possession of private property.
-You can take them, I'm not holding them.
-(The APS officers look at the Sheriff, the Sheriff looks back, and nods.) There's nothing I can do, he's not holding your property with out permission, he's allowing you to take them.
-Well, his car is on private property, we do not operate on private property.
-(Me again) The entire complex is on private property, I'm granting you permission to entire my premises to remove your boots, do you want them?
-You have stolen our property.
-No, I called the Tempe Police, would you like the badge #? I've not only talked with 2 officers, but this was run by the Super Attendant, there is nothing illegal unless I damage the boots.
-(Sheriff nods)
-(Head schmuck)I am going to prosecute (gets on the phone, babbles away and away, a second in command starts taking pictures)
-He starts asking for my info, "Are you the home owner?"
-I could be

So he calls the local Tempe Town cops, officer shows up, APS gets to
him first, then the officer approaches me after hearing their story. I inform him, also inform of the phone call I've made requesting legalities from the Tempe Police Dept. He scratches his head, and says, well, "I going to have to call this one in." I inform head Schmuck and the Tempe officer I have a meeting with the HOA President and HOA board on Tuesday to have this resolved. The officer informs me he's like the badge # later, and mentions it will show grounds I had no intention to steal the boots, and it was also good you informed the APS I had the boots.

-(Head Schmuck) You going to be there?
-Yes
-Good, because I'll be there too.
-(Officer)So as this is not a theft my Supervisor has informed me to place this under Other Theft, in which it will go to City Prosecutors or get dropped, call this # on Monday 16th to see what happens. The APS Manager/Owner/Head Schmuck says he OWNS the parking passes and ALL passes associated with this address have now been revoked, if he sees your car you will be towed.
-(Another APS officer) Hey man, I have this ticket for you, I've put down that you are refusing to pay, I just need your signature. I read it, above my signature it says, " Acceptance for services."
-Sorry man, I not going to sign it, you haven't offered me a service.
-Oh man, we are just going to bill HOA.
-Sorry
-But you won't get a bill
-Naaaa
-(Officcr to APS Schmuck) So, he's not holding your boots against will, do you want them back?
-Yes (they pull them off and go) Officer gives me the Case # Info Card, tells me to call in Monday.
-So I won't need that badge #, I've already called in Tempe Police Headquarters and we have you on record calling in. Any questions?
-No
-Let me tell you something, they are pissed, really pissed off, I don't know if you talked trash about his wife but he is angry! I mean, the guy is about to explode, and some thing about a picture you sent him.
-Oh, I didn't send that
-You didn't send that?
-No, it floating around on the Internet, someone else did that.
-So this is on the Internet.
-Yep
-Any questions for me?
-No, thanx for everything
-Night

So this can go many ways, 1 through City Prosecutor's or 2 through HOA and fines. I have won round one. I'm going to post not only a couple pics and the head Schmuck and possibly an alley for me sticking it to the man:

So I've thinking this over and maybe decided to go with it, I will not hold any one to this however if this really goes the distance and I loose I am possibly setting up a Paypal Donation Fight The Power Fund, $5, $10, $20 what ever you want. I will not send IMs asking and of the sort. I AM NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING NOW. If this doesn't go City Prosecutors Monday, I also have Tuesday with the HOA board to see what happens.

This is just an idea, and if you'd seriously like to contribute (upon seeing documentation, etc of the sort), along with your comments place a to tell me you'd be in favor. Once again, I'm not going to hold you to it, but if it comes down to it, I could be out some serious coin.

Dub-On!

DeutscheBAG!
06-19-2008, 11:27 AM
[QUOTE]HEY KIDDIES

At first I must very very thank the Vortex Community for their support! I think this is fantastic, and I maybe bring this to a news station to you, it may even hit the papers.

To answer some questions I remembered: I did try to resolve this before said movement of Audi. I explained I've been in the same spot for 3 months, with a pass, also the pass is in plain sight! if they'd like to come view it, however, "Sir, if you pass is not hanging from your rear view, that's $140!" They wouldn't budge, didn't care, just give me $140.

The *cough, *cough, boot enforcement rules where put into place 1 year AFTER I've moved in. Upon receiving a letter we now have TO PAY TO PARK ON OUR OWN DAM PROPERTY I called and E-mailed immediately of my disgust. Keep in mind all conversions where kept civil, no yelling, no cursing, etc. of the sort.

Concerning the incident the other night some thing I forgot to mention. Once the Head Schmuck and Mini Schmucks left, the officer approached me, " I don't know if you where talking trash about his wife, but he is pissed, I mean really, really pissed......." All information had to be relayed through the Tempe Police or Sheriff as the Police said, "I can't let this guy near you or his going to do something, it's getting way to steamy, this is going to be a problem if it talks face to face, and the way this guy is I can't let him near you." -I smiled.

To EDIT: And answer the question, no I didn't talk ish or mention his wife, or even know whether he's married. However, he was so un-professional and handled the situation so poorly his actions will be heavily noted before the HOA board and recommend to be removed and/or replaced. Also a edit, as there are ~1500-2000 residence I may ALSO start a APS Removal Petition in which I may go over HOA and directly straight to D.R. HORTON HOMES and see what kind of pull there in Homeowners vs HOA. I can only guess, but I can't see a single person in favor of: Immobilizing A Vehicle Until Compliance
I will not have a problem with signatures, however what can be done with them is another story. End Edit

So, I've asked ther for Vortex member via IM if he's able to pull down the picture he has sent, and am waiting for a reply. And concerning fellow Vortexers, thank you for restraint till this been resolved and after words, and I agree: THOU SHALT OPEN THY FLOODGATES TO HENCE FORTH A BIBLICAL FORCE OF SEEN NO OTHER OF P-CHOP IN FELLOW GLEE IN THOUGT LEGENDARY THREADICICS

I think the Audi in different locations of the world would be fantastic! And Head Schmuck, well, that's going to be fun.

What's the magic word the day kids! Uhn-Uhn! CAN YOU SAY LOOP-HOLE? SAY IT WITH ME KIDS!

HELLO KIDDIES, HERE's SOME SUSPENSE


I just got back from Guantanamo Bay and BOY HAVE THEY SPRUCED THAT PLACE UP!

Well, MORE SUSPENSE!, the law officer has YET to file the case or have a detective look into it. I've called Tempe Police twice today to determine the outcome, waiting for an officer to snatch me from work (as yes, they wanted to know where), and left a message with the case officer to call back (6:00P.M.) to inform me of an outcome. Quote from the filer,"Sir, typically it takes a week." Man, the suspense, round #2 is the important one.

So......round #2 is in the air, round #3 starts tomorrow, Tuesday, June 17th @ 6:30 in a PRIVATE HOA President meeting with the entire HOA board, in which Head Schmuck maybe attending. In which the many following arguments will follow.

Intentions of securing my modified Audi from theft and the elements under the rights of the law.

ONE MENTION IN THE PREVIOUS 2 HOUR INCIDENT WHICH WILL WEIGHT HEAVILY IN MY FAVOR: I even told them, " You guys are more then welcome to keep the boots on, you don't have to take them, you can take your boots and keep them on till the meeting." Bou-ya-ca

I think that would sit nicely with law enforcement.

I also, NEVER mentioned I wasn't going to pay, ever! When they said "It'll be $140 dollars to remove them.", I said "You can take your boots, or leave them on..... " NOT, "No, I'm not going to pay, you can take your boots......

I also did NOT sign the APS receipt where it was marked -Customer Refused To Pay. Oh, no, I'm not refusing to pay, not going to say I'm going to pay you or not pay you. Bou-ya-ca[QUOTE]

DeutscheBAG!
06-19-2008, 11:28 AM
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UPDATE KIDDIES, OH THE SUSPENSE!

So I just came from the HOA meeting, and Head Schmuck was waiting outside with what may have been a lawyer. He was loading a CD into a lap top, which probably contained all pictures of the night and possibly even the pic sent to APS by other said Vortexer.

So I sat down and told my story in private, went pretty well, they appeared to be shocked once told them this little guy is trying to prosecute, also detailing his unprofessionalism. Something interesting they said caught my attention:

"Well, where thinking about splitting the Parking Fine with you, HOA would pay half and you would pay the other half."

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! Uh..........wait, this has to be paid no matter what? (Not that I wasn't going to pay) But under what obligations is it determined that this has to be paid and the HOA is responsible? Why, how, who the hell says this has to be paid? Uhn?

I told them if they absoluty came to the conclusion I had to pay I would pay it, and everything had been done to secure my vehicle (in which even the HOA board members knew the car) and prevent it from being towed, it's saftey and securing it from the elements till said HOA meeting.

They asked if they was anything else they should know about, and coughed it up as they would probably see, is about a un-known poster sending a picture to APS. They all put their pens down and hands on their foreheads.

I was cut short and only got 5 minutes of speak time

Every APS issue was meet with:

- Well, you have to take that up with APS, errr........
- I think the ethics of permitting disabling a vehicle.....what if some one has to go to work in the morning, they would be fired!
-Well, you have to take that up with APS...
-Wait, you guys are the one that hired them....
-We are out of time

Which I do not know if they where hired, whether they are on contract, I don't know whether they own the parking spaces, I was out of time...

The conclusion:

Ugh.....we will make out decision and you should receive notification in the mail in a week. Ughh....
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HELLO KIDDIES, MAJOR UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So one of the HOA board members just called me:

Speaking NOT as an HOA board member:

DUDE! THEY ARE GOING TO PROSECUTE AND SPECIFICALLY WANT TO USE YOU AS THE EXAMPLE!

HOLLY SHNIKEYS! I can't believe this, in what God's Green Earth's bone in their body do they think they are in the right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He mentioned that the apparent rage and steamy-ness of Head Schmuck and heated-ness of the second. The scamming man was the not a lawyer but the owner. They DID have the said picture on file below from the other Vortexer, and presented it to the board

Dear Head Schmuck: There is nothing wrong with the picture nor illegal, it's obvious he's having a little fun with this.

Head Schmuck: We have revoked his parking pass

HOA BOARD: You can not do that

YYEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote- We are going to review the contract <-------- and if it's in there they (APS) can revoke a pass we are taking it out.

Head Schmuck: He stole our boots!

HOA: He did not steal your boots in any way, he moved his car, and he called you and told you about it.

SOME THING VERY IMPORTANT I FORGOT TO ADD:

APS HAS JUST OFFICIALLY GONE BOOT CRAZY IN THE PAST 24 HOURS EITHER IN FRUSTRATION OR RETALIATION! I left work this morning and all these cars had these boots on them, all over the place, I got home and my roomy walked in, "Dude, why do all the cars have boots on them?"

From this phone call I received from the HOA member, "Yeah, they are trying to find ANYTHING to boot everyone, tags, etc."
Man, these cars that have displayed tags and they have boots on them, one Tahoe got booted for being on the white line, another guy hd to pay $90 to have the boot removed because his tags are expired!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND A MAJOR PROBLEM! I can't do anything regarding a petition or have them ousted unless I get the owners involved, and only there signatures count! You can't even vote on issues if you are not the owner. All these units are rental properties for ASU students, no one here owns the units but the rich parents on the East Coast! URG!!!


ARGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So I'm not going to wait a week for the letter, and am going to call the HOA president tomorrow, and the officer has not called back, either way it's going to be a juicy update!
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HELLO KIDDIES 3RD UPDATE FOR THE NIGHT TUESDAY JUNE 17th PICS WILL START TOMORROW AND MEDIA ALERTED!

Well, it's official, they are out to get everyone. As I left the house to the gym other vehicles where booted. ONE WAS A SHASTA POOLS COMPANY TRUCK! ALL IT DID WAS HAVE ONE TIRE ON THE WHITE LINE! Another SUV was booted too, nothing wrong with it, tags where good, parked straight.

I'm going to start photographing EVERY booted vehicle I see that is unreasonably booted and post, I also will post a picture of the community so you can relate a picture to the story. I also may start leaving contact information, possibly even this link, to those who have been violated. I may also contact Shasta Pools! I stated days ago I may be getting the media involved, with your guys support and as deep as this is going that will be happening Wednesday, June 18th, 2008 for a Phoenix News Station. Postings of time (Internet viewing, maybe someone can record and post on You-Tube) will be posted if a station bites. We have 3 large networks, I'll pick one and go from there.

SOME THING REALLY IRKED ME!!!!
My buddy turned to me as we where walking out to my car (a car APS does not know about) tonight after the second post tonight, to go to the gym, and says,"Man, look @ all these poor people, they all have to suffer because of what your trying to do." Oh, let me tell ya, that sucked! These people are in for a hurting just for a common good. If they haven't coughed up the dough come morning and/or are fighting it I'll show you some injustice via pics.

I'll have this up hopefully by 12:00 Noon Wednesday June 18th, 2008. Within a couple hours I should have a new network contacted and will post again.

THANX GUYS FOR ALL THE SUPPORT, THIS WOULD BE FANTASTIC TO GO NATIONAL

DeutscheBAG!
06-19-2008, 11:29 AM
UPDATE KIDDIES, SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING!

For one, I have tags! Yeah! Wow, I can't believe now I can't officially not get booted for not having them. I wounder what else they'll will try to find.

SO I CALLED THE HOA PRESIDENT, SOMETHING KINDA INTERESTING, I ALSO HAVE THE HOA APS CONTRACT!:

(5 Minutes ago)

-So Blake, you've arranged this meeting so we could wave the fines implemented by APS, well, they haven't charged you a fee/fine, so there is nothing for us to wave.

Umm.....I wounder if they are going to try: outstanding fines for late penalties. However that's not going to fly, they had their opportunity, I even mentioned at the HOA Board meeting if it absolutely came down to me having to pay I have the $140 right now. That's very interesting they HAVE NOT charged a fine/fee, well, yet.

Also, in the phone call I started that the Schmuck stated and I quote," If any of his vehicles are parked ANYWHERE on the property at any time with or with out a pass they will be booted and towed immediately."

Her response:

-They can't do that, if that's in the contract it's getting yanked, you parking passed HAVE BEEN REINSTATED! WOOT! WOOT! WOOT!

Well, that's gravy baby!

HOWEVER! APS argued let that is not the case. WTF! So I'm a grey area, and if I get towed then I'm dealing with a tow company as well .

Her response: Well, I think you need to contact the owner and see where you guys stand, not Gerry.

So I think they will attempt to ALWAYS have a UNPAID FEE on record and use it every instance!

Hmmm.............don't know about that one just yet, that in it's self with be a juicy topic here.

SO I HAVE A COPY OF THE CONTRACT!

It will not allow me to copy and paste, I've tried to bring it over. I can however forward a copy of the contract in which someone else could post. If someone able of doing this could send E-mail addy IM I could send the contract.
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UPDATE KIDDIES!

I've called the cops again to determine any actions, Wednesday 18th, 2008, however they say nothing has been entered but it will take some more time.

It will be brought to the HOA Presidents Attention the inconsistencies in the HOA APS contract! If you see other feel free to post!

I have contacted the media!

KSAZ (Fox-10)
KNXV (ABC-15)
KPNX (NBC-12) Was closed for the day.

Both where not immediately interested and sent me to INVESTIGATORS voice boxes (as it is right now during the 6:00oclock news) where I left prompt messages, told them to title it, Have HOA's Gone to Far? Over Zealous Parking Enforcers? As well as them trying to have me arrested, and such. And there's a online Blog with over 100,000 hits! THANK VORTEX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


FEEL FREE TO PROVIDE THIS THREAD TO ALL THOSE YOU SEE FIT INCLUDING YOUR WORK ENVIRONMENT!
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HELLO KIDDIES

THIS IS AWESOME!

#1 PAGE GOGGLE :ARIZONA PARKING SOLUTIONS BOOTED : AND ALMOST ALL TOP 10 GOGGLE THREADS AFTER. #1 GOGGLE: AUDI BOOTED:

MANY CAR ENTHUSIASTS WEB PAGES NOTED.

Feel free to start on other sites!

I've sent via E-mail to HOA President, breach of contract , $90 to $140 charges, and not issuing: 1st a warning, 2nd a citation, and then 3rd a boot.

OVER ZEALOUS MONEY LAUNDERING NAZISM SCANDALERS
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UPDATE KIDDIES


Tomorrow, Thursday June 19th, 2008 SHASTA Pools will be notified of Breach of Contract. They HAVE NOT paid the fee and the company truck has been there many days with said boot. They are probably resisting, as it's current state for so long.

Updates concerning news networks will be updated.

Updates waiting for a response from HOA President concerning Breach of Contract E-mail I sent.

I'm still debating as to whether or not start- ISSUING COPIES WITH HIGHLIGHTED BREACH OF CONTRACT ON ALL SAID VICTIMS PHANTOMLY ON THEIR VEHICLES

Do remember, this is not really me vs the HOA, they appear to be on my side, well, kinda. It's really kinda a play on words, kinda sorta yes and no. APS is the main entente, so I kinda have to be little careful putting literature on every booted car. As you know it will REALLY REALLY BLOW UP. EVERY BOOTED OWNER will be sitting there with a copy of the rules in complete defiance of APS with everything in breach RIGHT INFRONT OF APS'S FACES! Then what happens, HOA finds out immediately, and they will know who, GUESS WHO??????????????????????????

So that's up in the air.

CAN YOU IMAGINE COMING OUT TO PAY $140 FOR THIS? I'M SURE SHASTA POOLS IS IRKED! GEE, HOW DID THEY GET A COPY OF THE CONTRACT?
http://www.arizonaparking.com/
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Killer
06-19-2008, 11:36 AM
i refuse to read all of that... sorry walker....

ShooterMcGavin
06-19-2008, 11:36 AM
more pics would help...otherwise i'll just have to read it later :P

DeutscheBAG!
06-19-2008, 11:37 AM
forgot to add pics

wantboost
06-19-2008, 11:51 AM
That is classic.

JITB
06-19-2008, 11:52 AM
I read... i wonder..how far it will go..

HeLLo iM iZzY
06-19-2008, 12:02 PM
Damn that was good, lol.

Smart guy indeed.

Revmaynard
06-19-2008, 12:11 PM
Damn, I really want to see how this turns out. It was a very interesting read since I had nothing else to do.

Papa_Smurf
06-19-2008, 12:30 PM
long, but good read.

keep us updated, this is pretty interesting!!!!

Killer
06-19-2008, 12:40 PM
btlfed cliffs?

Kevykev
06-19-2008, 01:02 PM
Decent read, I expected more ACTION.

Oh well, props to him for taking a stand!

StraightSix
06-19-2008, 01:05 PM
I read what was posted here. Interesting situation, I'm curious how it'll end.

T.S.
06-19-2008, 01:11 PM
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T.S.
06-19-2008, 01:12 PM
I think its freaken awesome! and i hope he wins....

csmiths
06-19-2008, 01:16 PM
that pretty smart, my eyes hurt from reading all that.

Ran
06-19-2008, 01:29 PM
Home Owner Associations FTMFL

Props to this guy for fighting these douchebags.

4dmin
06-19-2008, 01:34 PM
that **** is hilarious :D

DeutscheBAG!
06-19-2008, 01:48 PM
Now they've started the photoshop wars lol

For those of you at work ;)

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w96/garerid/a1a2.jpg

Ran
06-19-2008, 01:52 PM
"Shmuck is at work"

:lmao: :lmao:

AlanŽ
06-19-2008, 01:53 PM
damn that took forever to read but interesting nonetheless

civic95
06-19-2008, 02:35 PM
He should charge them a storage fee for storing the boots in his garage. $300 a day sounds about right.

blazin'
06-19-2008, 02:38 PM
Damn, I really want to see how this turns out. It was a very interesting read since I had nothing else to do.

x2

Revmaynard
06-19-2008, 02:42 PM
x2

What area do you live in? We should take some pictures with our Blazer's together. Dime love out LOL.

BobbyFresco
06-19-2008, 02:42 PM
They see me rollin, they hatin'........................LMMFAO..


Something similar was happening in the neighborhood where one of my houses is...The HOA contracted a company to tow vehicles parked on the street and I think that's a bit excessive...Not to mention that Cherokee country sherrifs would ride around and issue $20 fines as well which isn't an issue in itself but it's the principle...If you have guests, where the fuk are they supposed to park?

DeutscheBAG!
06-19-2008, 04:55 PM
they made shirts

http://images.cafepress.com/jitcrunch.aspx?bG9hZD1ibGFuayxibGFuazoxNTJfRl9jMjc uanBnfGxvYWQ9TDAsaHR0cDovL2ltYWdlcy5jYWZlcHJlc3MuY 29tL2ltYWdlLzI4NTgwMDkwXzQwMHg0MDAucG5nfHxzY2FsZT1 MMCwxMTcsMTUwLFRyYW5zcGFyZW50fGxvYWQ9dG0tTDAsYmxhb ms6MTUyX0ZfYzMwX3RtYXNrLmpwZ3xjb21wb3NlPUwwLHRtLUw wLFRleHR1cmVNYXNrLC0xNzYsLTEwMnxjb21wb3NlPWJsYW5rL EwwLEFscGhhQmxlbmQsMTc2LDEwMnxjcD1yZXN1bHQsYmxhbmt 8c2NhbGU9cmVzdWx0LDAsNDgwLFdoaXRlfGNvbXByZXNzaW9uP Tk1fA==

Looks good on green. T-shirt guy is going to CASH IN.

Revmaynard
06-19-2008, 04:56 PM
LOL.

DeutscheBAG!
06-19-2008, 04:57 PM
Update!

HELLO KIDDIES!

I AM DOLLY MAN!!!

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/RollerBladeMan.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/RollerMan.jpg

WOW! I don't what to say guys! Thanx for everything! I am so glad this has gone this route! I am very appreciative for every ones support, and feel fantastic this is making a difference! PROPS for the T-shirts! Props for spreading the word! Props for the search engines! I HOPE THIS CASE HIGHLIGHTS WHAT IS BEING DONE AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE STOPPED! I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THAT EXTRA $50 WENT OVER THE CONTRACTED $90!

I will be walking the community again tonight, and photographing, I hope last night just wasn't a fluke and will post. However you'll here from me again before hand. I have not been contacted yet by the media, yet! However! I may post ALL local broadcasters E-mails! And see where the public gos with this.

-Mr Johnson, after you file those TPS Reports can you check the E-mails?

-Um, Sir, I think there's something you need to see, 3,567 E-mails regarding hum..... Boots? Head? Schmuck? Something else about Nazis?

-Yeeeahhhhhhh, I thinkkkkkkk yourreee goingggg toooo haveeee tooo comeeee innnn Saturadayyyyyy tooooo readdd theseeeeee, yeahhh, thattttt wouldddddd beeeee greatttttt, yeahhhh.

Stay tuned for next update, which will include Shasta Pools remarks!

iloveboost
06-19-2008, 05:35 PM
Hahaha!!!

That's awesome! I wonder if he can charge storage fees for their boots.

Please link the original thread so we can keep updated and it can get more hits.

Edit: Nevermind, just saw the link on first page.

WalkS
06-19-2008, 06:25 PM
this is great.
cant wait for the updates!

DirtyMechanic
06-19-2008, 06:45 PM
reps+ wow the sh!t that happens... he better win. he found a loop hole... walker i wuv you....

OnURleft
06-19-2008, 07:05 PM
That was the best forum read i've ever took the time to read. Hilarious. This Audi guy has a real sence of humor and i can't wait to see how it turns out. Reps

Jecht
06-19-2008, 10:16 PM
That was totally worth the read... HOA FTL.

The BUCKY
06-19-2008, 10:38 PM
pretty smart

4dmin
06-19-2008, 10:43 PM
those shirts are funny

tron
06-19-2008, 11:00 PM
love this thread
keep us posted

slostang
06-19-2008, 11:08 PM
this is ****ing great that someone finally grew some balls. People that boot cars are the ****ing scum of the earth in my opinion. +1 for the find. where is the link so I can paypal this man some support?

_Christian_
06-20-2008, 12:09 AM
I really don't see how he could lose. Long read but well worth it. Keep us updated Walker!!!

81911SC
06-20-2008, 12:31 AM
Read the whole thing, good read.

P. A.
06-20-2008, 12:57 AM
yessss!!!!!

Tech5
06-20-2008, 12:59 AM
wow took me a good hour to read that ...wow

T.S.
06-20-2008, 09:30 AM
hey walker what happened to the thread did they delete it off Vortex? It got to 61 pages and then someone got on and said sorry guys this must come to an end. And it was a Admin for Vortex. WTF IS THAT ****!

DeutscheBAG!
06-20-2008, 10:16 AM
hey walker what happened to the thread did they delete it off Vortex? It got to 61 pages and then someone got on and said sorry guys this must come to an end. And it was a Admin for Vortex. WTF IS THAT ****!


damn shame too man..they were trying to keep the thread civil..they were so many people just ready to post up there photochops..but apparently..Arizona Parking solutions started watching the thread( this link has been posted on every automotive website in the world) but APS recieved lots of threats and pranksters..etc and personal info being posted..So they just locked because just like all good threads on vortex..they eventually get locked...sucks..one of the best threads in a while..puts Enzo-Dude thread to shame

but there are souvenirs now if u want to remember the thread :D


UPDATE!
IT'S THE COPS! MAJOR UPDATE KIDDIES! COPS JUST SHOWED UP!!!!!!!!!!!!! SUPER JUICY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF OFFICIAL! APS AND EVERYONE IN BETWEEN! APS IN WATCHING THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!

SUPER JUICY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the below is somewhat screened, the police officer will not be mentioned and the not entire story reveled as the Tempe Police have been very professional and I will say, wow!, what a complete difference between Tucson Police and Tempe Police.

Officer knocks on the door:

-Hello, I need to ask you about a website now running, ArizonaParkingsolutionssucks.com

-Oh, that is not mine, this is from..(finishes my words)

-VWVORTEX, yeah, we know about it. There was some mention that,
"HIS BALLS WHERE GOING TO BE CUT OFF!"

-Really? I can tell you this is a public forum, and I have no connection nor know the guy.

-Will the GM from APS is very very upset, and they are watching.

-It's public and have not asked in any way for it to be put up nor have a threatened APS in ANY WAY. The only thing I've done is post his picture and full name, which is public record. Everything is public...

-We know, this has turned huge , it's really blowing up. ---------->> THE RESIDENCE OF THIS COMMUNITY ARE CACHETING WIND OF THIS AND GIVING APS HELL!!!!! <--------

-Wow, for the record I've actuality asked for people NOT to contact APS, nor have I talked to any of the residence that have a boot except Shasta Pools.

-Well, we have out way to find out who made that website with those kind of postings, they need to be careful because it's a Grey area.

-I don't know who it is other then being online, nor have I asked ANYONE to put them up to this.

Conclusion: It's freedom of speech but does draw a fine line for those who may offer threats or something deemed in a threatening way. So you guys would be on your own, and can say, do not do threatening material. June 19th 2009

APS IS WATCHING!
Grabs popcorn and hides in dark corner.

STAY TUNNED FOR UPDATES!!!!

DeutscheBAG!
06-20-2008, 10:20 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/cine7th/APSShortBus1.jpg

http://www.arizonaparkingsolutionssucks.com/

DeutscheBAG!
06-20-2008, 10:25 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/cine7th/all-your-boots.png

Revmaynard
06-20-2008, 10:35 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/cine7th/APSShortBus1.jpg

http://www.arizonaparkingsolutionssucks.com/


LOL AT THE PICTURE AND WEB SITE.

Ran
06-20-2008, 10:37 AM
They should faxbomb APS with black sheets.

Blitanicle99
06-20-2008, 12:30 PM
They should faxbomb APS with black sheets.

You won't do it.

And mad props to the true owner of the Audi behind all this. Definately awesome to stand up to these idiots and take them out. I personally hate the ****ers.

I can't wait till I catch one in the act, I am driving off while he tried to put it on and I hope his hand is caught up in it because I will continue driving accidently.

miro_gt
06-20-2008, 08:51 PM
very good read

Greddypacked
06-21-2008, 03:44 PM
So he went thru all of this just to avoid a fine for 140.00$. Seems like he's going to win, but he could have made more than 140.00$ w/ the time he has spent fighting this thing. He just wants to make a statement.

0p7!mu5
06-21-2008, 04:45 PM
yeah seriously charge a damn holding fee.... Man Walker where the hell is the rest of the news? Can't ya Pm the guy on VW? Im tryin to get a townhouse and it might be in a HOA neighborhood might need 2 know how to handle an issue like this..

0p7!mu5
06-21-2008, 04:48 PM
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IndianStig
06-21-2008, 07:10 PM
Oh thats amazing haha. I got a window sticker in my nhood cause I was parked at my pool for all of 3 hours....

The pool wasn't even open and I live just down the street from it where my car is parked outside almost everyday. **** parking nazi's.

.:EuRo FLYbOy:.
06-21-2008, 08:22 PM
i refuse to read all of that... sorry walker....

x2

Anyone wanna sum it up :goodjob:

Gambit017
06-21-2008, 09:33 PM
Yea, So I decided to join Scooby, so what? Anyway, he should charge a $50 holding and storage fee, that way by the time they get the damn boots they'll owe him money.

DeutscheBAG!
06-22-2008, 11:11 AM
yeah seriously charge a damn holding fee.... Man Walker where the hell is the rest of the news? Can't ya Pm the guy on VW? Im tryin to get a townhouse and it might be in a HOA neighborhood might need 2 know how to handle an issue like this..


i should have some new update soon..He linked me to a website that updates everything thats going on but its getting so many hits...hard to grab info

Repost Squintz
06-22-2008, 11:41 AM
hellz yes. this guy is hella smart, i'm surprised he kept his cool through out all of this. much respect to him.

Chuckster
06-22-2008, 11:57 AM
Thats some awsome **** right durr. Pics made me LOLOL

bandydesign
06-22-2008, 12:14 PM
Wow! What a read! So this is where he currently stands?

allmotoronly
06-22-2008, 12:31 PM
there are almost 800k views of the original post on vwvortex lolol.

BTLFED
06-22-2008, 12:47 PM
That is absolutely hilarious! I just want to know one thing, Walker.

How do I get one of those Das Boot shirts?

LIKEG6
06-22-2008, 01:46 PM
that took a while to read but it was hilarious

Dude is definitely smart

5spdfrk
06-22-2008, 04:46 PM
Don't know if this link was posted yet, but it has some more info and pics:
http://www.parkingenforcementforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3

DeutscheBAG!
06-22-2008, 05:19 PM
That is absolutely hilarious! I just want to know one thing, Walker.

How do I get one of those Das Boot shirts?

http://www.cafepress.com/SprocketWear
http://www.cafepress.com/creanium

Greddypacked
06-22-2008, 05:19 PM
that took a while to read but it was hilarious

Dude is definitely smart

No sh!t right. It's like he's an attorney since he knows so much about the law.

EJ25RUN
06-22-2008, 05:53 PM
keep me updated, i read it all!

Gilgamesh
06-23-2008, 12:18 AM
Similar kind of thing happened to my roommate when i lived in the dorms of UAB (Birmingham, AL). He got a notice sticker b/c he didn't have his hang tag on the car. He partially removed it. He then parked in another parking lot (an on campus non-university owned for profit dorm which requires different credentials) and was towed. It's like he got warned at target and then got towed at walmart. The company broke into his truck to turn off his alarm and the the subs in his box "fell out during the tow". Best he got was them waiving the storage fee but not the tow and filed a complaint w/ the police dept.

This is the best drama on the internets right now. I can't wait for the next update

Ed
06-23-2008, 08:59 AM
awesome cant wait for the outcome.

BTLFED
06-23-2008, 04:49 PM
http://www.cafepress.com/SprocketWear
http://www.cafepress.com/creanium

Hilarious! I'm ordering one when I get paid!

1SICKLEX
06-23-2008, 06:43 PM
Yeah I post on there too. Thread became truly EPIC....;they closed it though...

yogi08
06-23-2008, 07:10 PM
awesome!

Gambit017
06-23-2008, 09:23 PM
Pulled this from one of another websites threads...

http://www.parkingenforcementforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3

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Post Re: I AM DOLLY MAN UPDATES THREAD - Audi Booted By APS
I've been talking with DOLLY MAN back and forth over email, and he okay'd me to give an update here:

APS is threatening legal action and sending him threats telling him to send them his attorney's information... though he hasn't received anything actually written by an attorney. Because of this, he is laying low while he confers with his attorney.

He is continuing to discuss the situation with a variety of news outlets, and as the story spreads it becomes more and more likely that someone is going to pick it up.

He will be back with updates as soon as he gets the okay legally.

BTLFED
06-24-2008, 04:51 PM
Hah! Wow I can't wait for an update!

.blank cd
06-24-2008, 06:01 PM
IN for conclusion

DeutscheBAG!
06-25-2008, 08:37 AM
UPDATE!!!
UPDATE KIDDIES


Tomorrow, Thursday June 19th, 2008 SHASTA Pools will be notified of Breach of Contract. They HAVE NOT paid the fee and the company truck has been there many days with said boot. They are probably resisting, as it's current state for so long.

Updates concerning news networks will be updated.

Updates waiting for a response from HOA President concerning Breach of Contract E-mail I sent.

I'm still debating as to whether or not start- ISSUING COPIES WITH HIGHLIGHTED BREACH OF CONTRACT ON ALL SAID VICTIMS PHANTOMLY ON THEIR VEHICLES

Do remember, this is not really me vs the HOA, they appear to be on my side, well, kinda. It's really kinda a play on words, kinda sorta yes and no. APS is the main entente, so I kinda have to be little careful putting literature on every booted car. As you know it will REALLY REALLY BLOW UP. EVERY BOOTED OWNER will be sitting there with a copy of the rules in complete defiance of APS with everything in breach RIGHT INFRONT OF APS'S FACES! Then what happens, HOA finds out immediately, and they will know who, GUESS WHO??????????????????????????

So that's up in the air.

CAN YOU IMAGINE COMING OUT TO PAY $140 FOR THIS? I'M SURE SHASTA POOLS IS IRKED! GEE, HOW DID THEY GET A COPY OF THE CONTRACT?

DeutscheBAG!
06-25-2008, 08:40 AM
MAJOR UPDATE! HELLO KIDDIES, MAJOR MAJOR UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

APS KNOWS!

I JUST TOOK A, NOW DAILY NIGHTLY WALK (WEDNESDAY, MIDNIGHT!), TO PHOTOGRAPH ALL SAID VICTIMS! AND BROUGHT A BUDDY WITH TO WITNESS AND WILL CHIME IN BELOW WITH HIS DISBELIEF!

GUESS WHAT FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER!!!!!!!!!! A WRITTEN CITATION WITH NO BOOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!


HOWEVER THEY ARE IN GUEST PARKING AND STILL GOT CITED, NO BOOTS! WOOT! WOOT! WOOT!!!!!!! THIS IMAGE WOULD STATE RESERVED, HOWEVER IS A GUEST SPOT, STILL GOT A WARNING, MAYBE A CITATION, AS I DID'T MESS WITH THE GUYS CAR AND READ THE PAPER, EITHER WAY, NO BOOT!

SOMETHING VERY MAJOR HAS HAPPENED!!!!!!! NOT A SINGLE BOOT IN THE ENTIRE, ENTIRE COMMUNITY, WE JUST WALKED THE WHOLE THING!! THAT HAS NEVER EVER EVER HAPPENED!!!!!

AND A TESTIMONY'S FROM MY ROOMMATE THAT WALKED WITH:

I HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE AT THIS COMMUNITY FOR APPROXIMATELY 3 MONTHS AND WALKED WITH MY BUDDY TO WITNESS "NO" BOOTS ON ANY AND I MEAN ANY CAR! I COUNTED 6 BOOTS, JUST THIS MORNING WALKING TO MY CAR TO GO TO WORK... AND THIS IS JUST DOWN ONE AISLE! THE VEHICLES THAT WERE BOOTED WERE PARKED IN "RESERVED" AND SOME PARKED IN "GUEST" PARKING. WHAT REALLY BOGGLED MY MIND IS THAT THIS COMPANY WAS OK UNCONVINCING AN INDIVIDUAL AND HIS/HER RESPONSIBILITY TO GO TO WORK OR TO GO TO AN APPOINTMENT. GOD FORBID ONE OF THERE CHILDREN WHERE SICK OR A FREAK ACCIDENT HAPPENED AND THEY COULDN'T DRIVE TO THE HOSPITAL DUE TO THERE CAR BEING BOOTED. I WILL BE COMPLETELY HONEST HERE AND I HAVE NO REASON TO LIE CONSIDERING IT WASN'T EVEN MY VEHICLE THAT THEY TOYED WITH BUT FOR THE FIRST TIME I WITNESSED A "WARNING SIGN" ON THE BACK OF SOMEONES VEHICLE! NOW THAT'S THE WAY TO DO BUSINESS. AT LEAST GIVE THAT INDIVIDUAL THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THEY WERE AT FAULT AND THEN CORRECT THEM. I WILL ADMIT I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THAT, THAT INDIVIDUAL WAS WARNED AND NOT AUTOMATICALLY BOOTED...

ME AGAIN! THAT'S FANTASTIC! WOOT! WOOT! WOOT! WAIT FOR tomorrow'S NEXT UPDATE, THURSDAY JUNE 19TH, 2008!

HELLO KIDDIES

UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE

So I called Shasta Pools,

-Hello this is Rick xxxxxx,

-Hello Rick, my name is Blake, and I have a story for you......

Conclusion,

-I'M CALLING THE OWNER RIGHT NOW, THAT'S HIS SON'S TRUCK!


Shasta Pools has come on board!

I've sent all information regarding photos, a copy of the contract and a *cough, *cough, helpful link to this thread . Informed them I would be a material witness and would help their cause in EVERY way!

Guess what the Shasta Pools truck has NOW on it, that I walked out to give Rick the ID#, IT HAS A WARNING STICKER NOW!!!!! Still has the boot, but all the sudden it has a sticker.

EDIT: STICKER WAS NOT POST MARKED BACK TO THE 16TH.

UPDATES COMING

DeutscheBAG!
06-25-2008, 08:43 AM
APS is threatening legal action and sending him threats telling him to send them his attorney's information... though he hasn't received anything actually written by an attorney. Because of this, he is laying low while he confers with his attorney.

He is continuing to discuss the situation with a variety of news outlets, and as the story spreads it becomes more and more likely that someone is going to pick it up.

He will be back with updates as soon as he gets the okay legally.

BTLFED
06-26-2008, 05:07 PM
Hah! Awesome! I love how this is playing out!