In Light of All the Honda Motors

[FlipKing]

SR20DE with header in my Sentra. Plan on keeping it N-A as it is now. Cams, high compression pistons in the future, but cosmetic work for now. I pull harder than B16. Just wanted to throw out some Nissan Rep.

[FlipKing]

Well damn,hah figured that'd start a Riot, most honda peeps start screaming about Vtec when you mention a different motor

[Just_CHill]

Lol, good times man. Did you race a civic with a B16?

[osnap]

Well damn,hah figured that'd start a Riot, most honda peeps start screaming about Vtec when you mention a different motor
well you only gave it 9 minutes, noob.

[Motivation]

reps for the se-r... ran my buddies 83 z28 the other day. he got mad... lol... they are not the fastest thing in the world but they have decent pick up... Just hate the 3k rpm at 60

[cactusEG]

SR20DE with header in my Sentra. Plan on keeping it N-A as it is now. Cams, high compression pistons in the future, but cosmetic work for now. I pull harder than B16. Just wanted to throw out some Nissan Rep.
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[d16_turbo]

I pull harder than B16.

thats not saying much

[bRiAnMcIvIcS]

B16=slow

[FlipKing]

b16 and H22 are what most of the honda's rep. I looked in this section and saw honda after honda motor. Yeah, Honda hits Vtec and pulls, I pull through all rpms. :D, yeah my friend has a 94 civic with a b16 swap.

[wunquikser]

sup bro..put an sr20ve, nissans version of vtec and call it a day..gurantee any type r swapped killer..im pushin 190+ @ wheels rite now in da sentra..

[FlipKing]

Nah, think ima build on the DE. It has lots of potential, and Its already in the car.lol. Yeah, I'm pretty happy with it, its the USDM SR20DE with header. It pulls pretty good. lol

[BlkCD5]

Originally posted by Cjrp18
Well damn,hah figured that'd start a Riot, most honda peeps start screaming about Vtec when you mention a different motor

I'm anti vtec. Its nothing special anymore, but I hate the fact its soo glorified. I over heard this guy with a gsr saying when vtec kicked in hard, his dash shook so much. :no:

[FlipKing]

lol, yeahh, Honda people tend to think Vtec pwns all. I prefer an engine that pulls throughout the RPM range.

[wunquikser]

haha.,i was jus throwing out suggestions..

[FlipKing]

I know, just dont have the cash, just cheaper to build the DE,lol. I think im in the 150-160 range. Not sure though

[wunquikser]

lol @ those honda peeps, they aint seen nawtin yet

[FlipKing]

amen, SE-R over civic anyday. :D, straight power through all RPMs N-A

[wunquikser]

dat car is capable of runnin high 14s..it wuz my cuz car

[FlipKing]

My car? really? Guy said it ran a 15.1 with him, said he missed 4th. I didnt know if he was being truthful or not, so its really possible?

[wunquikser]

yes..i wuz there wit him @ the track..

[FlipKing]

sweet. Yeahh, think ima bondo the scoop, clean it up. fix bumper, paint it a glossier black. I'm excited to go to the track friday night

[wunquikser]

kool..got that tranny in there yet..lmk wat happen at the track

[mocha latte cupcake]

i'm sorry did someone mention nissans :D i'll come play :ninja:

[Benefit]

sr20ve is sick

[Sunny_B13]

sr20ve is sick
lol..yes it is

[wunquikser]

sr20ve on boost is sick-urr..

[d16_turbo]

vtak is overrated

[ejohnson88]

i find it funny how you say "I like power through out my RPM range", but when it comes down to racing or drag racing or anything of that sort.... you dont start at like 1k rpm... you are in at least the top THIRD of your useable RPM. oh and if you want to talk about vtec.... I got some I-Vtec you can come play with ;)

[Just_CHill]

i find it funny how you say "I like power through out my RPM range", but when it comes down to racing or drag racing or anything of that sort.... you dont start at like 1k rpm... you are in at least the top THIRD of your useable RPM. oh and if you want to talk about vtec.... I got some I-Vtec you can come play with ;)

Lol, good times.:goodjob:

[wunquikser]

i want a piece of da ivtec!! lol

[FlipKing]

Hah, you let me build a bit and I'll give you some action, I say you should go after Wunquick. :D Yeah, Im doing tranny and clutch this weekend after the track probably. yeah, you do drag at high rpms, but i can feel power through all rpms, where as you only feel it in V-tec. :-p

[Catnip]

I want a piece of your little car this friday son, tuned mine a bit tonight. No more busting up...

[FlipKing]

bit, i dont want none of your car unless its a burnout contest. :D

[wunquikser]

my car pulls from start to finish at 8k..1st gear will break loose once vvl kicks in, which is at 4800..best time at the track was 13.7 @ 98 mph..

[Catnip]

bit, i dont want none of your car unless its a burnout contest. :D

so you want me to cap off my front axles and be RWD? :ninja:

[d16_turbo]

ill race you in a little civic in a few months :)

[FlipKing]

yall can race, I'll just be reallly happy if I can break 14s.

[SandM]

shiet, my vtec car pulls through the rpms and makes wunquick's power...??? but i finish at 9k not 8k.... lol

[Catnip]

ill race you in a little civic in a few months :)

No thanks, haha. I do want to stop by and see it though, you're back off of smithville right?

[SandM]

oh forgot to mention though.. wunquik's probably a bit faster than me :D ... i got mad love for the B13 chassis, especially with vvl power

[FlipKing]

we shall see what I run friday.

[d16_turbo]

No thanks, haha. I do want to stop by and see it though, you're back off of smithville right?

yeah man come over anytime

[Catnip]

If I remember what road it is, I might stop by tomorrow. Or just come over with Chris...

[mengus200sx]

yep ser all day son! sr20ve all day..hahaha but i own a honda now ....suck for me...

[BB1_Luda]

best time at the track was 13.7 @ 98 mph..

That's on slicks right?

I think I got a video of you running at commerce somewhere. I think the pass I saw was high 14's. I gotta check again.

[wunquikser]

yea those runs were with m/t baby slicks...that run u talkin bout i tink i ran a 14.5 boggin of da line..

[Humphrizzle]

SR20DE with header in my Sentra. Plan on keeping it N-A as it is now. Cams, high compression pistons in the future, but cosmetic work for now. I pull harder than B16. Just wanted to throw out some Nissan Rep.


uh.. duh?

b16 isnt fast.. just very responsive.

[BB1_Luda]

yea those runs were with m/t baby slicks...that run u talkin bout i tink i ran a 14.5 boggin of da line..

Thats pretty good man.
How much you weight? 2500-2600?

[Motivation]

i find it funny how you say "I like power through out my RPM range", but when it comes down to racing or drag racing or anything of that sort.... you dont start at like 1k rpm... you are in at least the top THIRD of your useable RPM. oh and if you want to talk about vtec.... I got some I-Vtec you can come play with ;)

Launching a little high there aren't ya?

And remember when you shift gears you still need power through the whole rpm range. it's not just for take off. :goodjob:

[wunquikser]

Thats pretty good man.
How much you weight? 2500-2600?


about roughly 2300 w/out me and 2455 w/me in the car..

[IntegraXTR]

I can vouch for tunnel, his se-r is one of the quickest that I've seen. Some tuning and cams should put him at 200+.

But to the op, a b16 isn't fast but is a fun little motor.

[wunquikser]

^^^^ahh, you already know it..hehe thanks bro

[SleeperWRX]

try my b18

[southside]

my car pulls from start to finish at 8k..1st gear will break loose once vvl kicks in, which is at 4800..best time at the track was 13.7 @ 98 mph..plz tell me that was on street tires.I figured 191whp should be quicker.But idk track conditions and weather.:thinking: Nice anyways

[DC2NR]

sup bro..put an sr20ve, nissans version of vtec and call it a day..gurantee any type r swapped killer..im pushin 190+ @ wheels rite now in da sentra..

that things a beast ... :D

[Motivation]

plz tell me that was on street tires.I figured 191whp should be quicker.But idk track conditions and weather.:thinking: Nice anyways

read down a few posts from the one you quoted for your answer...

[ejohnson88]

well his power to weight ratio sounds about right for his ET and trap. especially since he was on slicks. On street tires the best i have been able to cut was 14.1 at 102.7. Give me some slicks and I'd be in the low 13's easily and yes I would be launching a little high, because my stage 4 clutch and DSS stage 2.9 axels could handle a 6k rpm launch with slicks.

[ejohnson88]

and my car weighed in at 2370 and 2540 with me in it.

[chico78]

Im diggin your signature. Probably because im in it! (Brown shirt guy looking at the camera that the girl is holding) That green civic in the pic has a supercharged d16. Try and run it!
uh.. duh?

b16 isnt fast.. just very responsive.

[boosted b]

he probably only ran against one honda that didn't have **** and thought he was running

[southside]

my car pulls from start to finish at 8k..1st gear will break loose once vvl kicks in, which is at 4800..best time at the track was 13.7 @ 98 mph..My friend has a stock b16 in a eg he ran 14.1@98 on BFG drag radials.:tongue1:

[B_Hoov]

wanna give me d series a run?

[Me86Rob]

im sorry. but yall are all wrong. SR20/B series=GARBAGE! the toyota 4A-GE/4A-GZE motors are the bomb. no questions. i win.

[blackshine007]

im sorry. but yall are all wrong. SR20/B series=the bomb! the toyota 4A-GE/4A-GZE motors are the GARBAGE. no questions. i win.
I agree :yes:

[Me86Rob]

well then, reps for joo!

[Me86Rob]

well, haha, i guess uh, ill keep a personal reference of giving you these reps

[VTECking]

This may be a dumb question but oh well. Is there a SR20VE that is RWD engine, or is it just a FWD engine?

[type-r swap]

hey mister not to nice there lets give it a try




sup bro..put an sr20ve, nissans version of vtec and call it a day..gurantee any type r swapped killer..im pushin 190+ @ wheels rite now in da sentra..

[mengus200sx]

^let get it on...i want to see this...

[mengus200sx]

this will be a good race..who with me...




hey mister not to nice there lets give it a try

[type-r swap]

u know it




this will be a good race..who with me...

[turbob20]

SR20DE with header in my Sentra. Plan on keeping it N-A as it is now. Cams, high compression pistons in the future, but cosmetic work for now. I pull harder than B16. Just wanted to throw out some Nissan Rep. DAMN IT TOOK ALL THAT TO PULL HARDER THAN THE SMALLEST NO TORQUE STOCK B SERIES VTEC MADE. PETHETIC UR IMPRESSING NO ONE HEAR AT ALL!

[turbob20]

AS FAR AS SWAPS GO THAT IS. 2.0 AGAINST 1.6? WHERE YOU GET YOUR THINKING PROCESS FROM?

[Farrow2005]

heres a thread killer

"power wasnt as great as i was hoping for in the lower boost levels. but damn, it breaths above 20psi. we ended the night a little early as the walbro 225lph pump just couldnt keep up. we ended at 30psi making 530whp and 331tq. it still has more in it too. the car was leaning out above 8000rpm. so with a little more fuel i should pick up about another 10-15 horsepower, with more rpm (10,000rpm) it should pick up another 15-20hp. hopefully when all is said and done, itl be close to 550 wheel horsepower. and that SHOULD be good for mid to low 10 second quarter miles."

check his myspace... http://www.myspace.com/turbo_b16


its a B16 strait up 1.6, not stroked

[Motivation]

DAMN IT TOOK ALL THAT TO PULL HARDER THAN THE SMALLEST NO TORQUE STOCK B SERIES VTEC MADE. PETHETIC UR IMPRESSING NO ONE HEAR AT ALL!


What you mean it took all that? He said header... the rest of his list was future plans... Just so ya know...

and farrow... lol. nice find...

[FlipKing]

This may be a dumb question but oh well. Is there a SR20VE that is RWD engine, or is it just a FWD engine?

I havent heard of a rwd VE, only fwd, but that doesnt mean there isnt one.

[FlipKing]

AS FAR AS SWAPS GO THAT IS. 2.0 AGAINST 1.6? WHERE YOU GET YOUR THINKING PROCESS FROM?

A. they make similiar power.

B. Only header, is that a lot of mods to you?:thinking:

C. Your dumb, please exit my thread and please find the caps lock button

[bigdare23]

I love these "Honda Hate" threads! Makes me glad I own the car that others compare too!

Anyways, a b16 in any other chassis besides an EF is trash. I own a crx with a b16 and I pulled on a b16 swapped 95 civic coupe and I had a d15 engine in my hatch and a d-series tranny on my passenger floor board. So before to write off all b16s, look at what chassis they are in.

Ve guys, I got must respect you all. Your motors are pretty ill.

[FlipKing]

VE's are Sick, maybe eventually I'll have one. Got a DE now, but my car my be sold :(

[Motivation]

VE's are Sick, maybe eventually I'll have one. Got a DE now, but my car my be sold :(

I'll write VE on top of the vc of mine for ya. :ninja:

[xdavidscenex]

b16=:upchuck:

but b16 head=:leghump:

[FlipKing]

Holy SHEET. lol, this thread is still going?

[twinj]

OMG these honda hate threads,lol. You want a cookie since you beat a B16? I think someone posted your car in the car pics section.

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?p=37095032#post37095032

[kaotickaozpunk]

B16=slow

not true...:no:

[chico78]

SR20DE with header in my Sentra. Plan on keeping it N-A as it is now. Cams, high compression pistons in the future, but cosmetic work for now. I pull harder than B16. Just wanted to throw out some Nissan Rep.


Lol. Shouldn't a 2 liter engine pull harder than a 1.6 liter anyways? I'm a Nissan guy but a B16 really isn't much to compare to is it? How about running against something bigger? Like a B20 maybe?

[DecoyOctopus]

b20 = torque b16= high end horsepower. b20 with b16 head tho is another story. i mean naturally aspirated i think honda has it down most other car companys did take the easy way out and go to forced induction, and another thing honda took into account is weight, they concentraded in optimizing power to weight ratios. thats why they have relatively weak cars that are pretty fast.

[chico78]

Im feelin ya. What does it take to do a B16 head on a B20? What the benefits? Sorry for the thread jack....

[Catnip]

Im feelin ya. What does it take to do a B16 head on a B20? What the benefits? Sorry for the thread jack....

= decent hp and decent tq...

[Catnip]

OMG these honda hate threads,lol. You want a cookie since you beat a B16? I think someone posted your car in the car pics section.

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?p=37095032#post37095032

IIRC ( and no offense to CJRP as he's a good friend of mine), but the the b16 he is referring belongs to is a friend of ours. I've raced both cars at silver dollar, running a 15.2 in the non-LSD b16 97 civic and ran a 15.5 in the LSD Sentra. The civic had less traction, smaller stock exhaust (no cat), and I broke the shifter in 2 when I shifted into 2nd gear... and still ran faster. Not to mention a smaller motor.


:ninja:

[Gorilla Eg!]

well you only gave it 9 minutes, noob.


:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao: