HP on built B16a

[Black4DrEK]

Ok i just recently bought a b16a with Built Head. stage 2 comp cams, and all valvetrain done. Hytec rep header.

\How much more HP do you think the fully built head adds? thanks.

[tenn69]

Ok i just recently bought a b16a with Built Head. stage 2 comp cams, and all valvetrain done. Hytec rep header.

\How much more HP do you think the fully built head adds? thanks.im not sure but i know you can get alot of power from a built head

[Black4DrEK]

yea i hope. umm... anymore,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,??

[owweee]

maybe 10hp.. plus.. minus.. what kind of power you're looking for?

[Black4DrEK]

i atleast want to hang wit my boyz CTR.. probly 180-190 or sooo... i want to add CTR pistons as well

[owweee]

1.6L don't really make that much power unless you put a crap load $$$ into it which i see it's pointless but everyone have their own taste..it's hard to get 180-190 on a b16 but goodluck...:goodjob:


i atleast want to hang wit my boyz CTR.. probly 180-190 or sooo... i want to add CTR pistons as well

[Black4DrEK]

i know alot of b16 that make that + ..... but yea thankx,,, ANYONE POST UP your B16 HP.....!!!!

[FasTech]

it's hard to get 180-190 on a b16 but goodluck...:goodjob:[/QUOTE]

Who told you that? Don't get mad but thats BS bro.

[southside]

Lol yea its pretty expensive making that ,but what car is it going in? b16 work wonders trust me I kno.With the right stuff you can make that but its gone run you my friend has a stock b16 in a hatch.He eats type rs,and gsr,its weird that b16s and ls are under estimated

[owweee]

just what i heard but im not much of a b16 guy so i don't know to much but hey i learn as i go so there's no point of getting mad..


it's hard to get 180-190 on a b16 but goodluck...:goodjob:

Who told you that? Don't get mad but thats BS bro.[/QUOTE]

[JDMB20]

hey a fully built b20vtec only broke 200+ and thats with skunk2 pro3 cams so dont expext that much from a b16

[bigdare23]

it's hard to get 180-190 on a b16 but goodluck...:goodjob:

Who told you that? Don't get mad but thats BS bro.[/QUOTE]


Sorry homie, but that's the truth. If you are building a motor for n/a, the worst motor (besides a d-series) is a b16. Fully built you "may" touch 180-190hp, but you're have about 115lbs of torque :lmfao:. If you were to put the same effort (if not less) into a 1.8 (or up), you would yield alot greater results.


*Original poster*

You will better off getting a 1.8L or 2.0L block and using your head. :2cents:

[bigdare23]

hey a fully built b20vtec only broke 200+ and thats with skunk2 pro3 cams so dont expext that much from a b16


That's kinda low?!? :???:


Are you using a good header? What size exhaust are you running? Is you're motor high compression? Are you tuned? Those cams might not be the best for your setup, if you're not high compression.

[FasTech]

Well it may not happen much, but my dads buddy has a civic hatch with a b16a n/a... running right at 205whp on the dyno with 110oct gas

[bigdare23]

Well it may not happen much, but my dads buddy has a civic hatch with a b16a n/a... running right at 205whp on the dyno with 110oct gas

Since your pops needs 110oct, I'm guessing he's over 12.1 c/r. If so, that car isn't a DD.

[FasTech]

Yeah, its not a DD.... but every once in a while, my dads buddy will take it out on the streets.

[owweee]

don't get mad but i've told you..lol..jk...:cheers:..


it's hard to get 180-190 on a b16 but goodluck...:goodjob:

Who told you that? Don't get mad but thats BS bro.[/QUOTE]

[Black4DrEK]

ok thanks for yalls response. highly appreciated

[EmminoDaGreat]

You might make 150whp.

[Black4DrEK]

ok. you guys are puttin my whip together now by the way. thanks...

[AnTi-PooN]

1.6L don't really make that much power unless you put a crap load $$$ into it which i see it's pointless but everyone have their own taste..it's hard to get 180-190 on a b16 but goodluck...:goodjob:


a stock obd0 jdm b16 makes 170...:lmfao:

[IntegraXTR]

keep the head, trash the block. enough said

[AnTi-PooN]

ls vtec FTW

[EmminoDaGreat]

a stock obd0 jdm b16 makes 170...:lmfao:



Lol show me one

[KevinT707]

a stock obd0 jdm b16 makes 170...:lmfao:
Stock, more like 130-140 WHP buddy.

Anywho back on subject, with that 'built head' and Hytech header you might make like 150-160 WHP.

[AnTi-PooN]

at crank or wheels?????

[allmotorX]

ls vtec FTWlol not

[LongLiveH2b]

B.S.- no "stock" b16 in a hatch(even gutted out) can pull a stock type-r

the only way the hatch would pull would be from a dig and it'll be in front for just a second or two cuz of the weight difference.

[southside]

B.S.- no "stock" b16 in a hatch(even gutted out) can pull a stock type-r

the only way the hatch would pull would be from a dig and it'll be in front for just a second or two cuz of the weight difference.Someone lied to you my friend ran a type r .From a roll when ppl used to chill at Full throttle he walked on the type-r.The dude was mad as hell then he was like what ya got popped the hood and he saw a stock ass b16.:thinking: So what are you talking about

[patrick4588]

^^^ its so funny seeing ppl talk about their stories and they own all. there could have been something wrong with the type r, ****ty driver, etc etc. there are soooo many variables. just because you saw a type r lose to a b16 one time, doesnt mean if you have a b16 hatch, it will beat a type r. if you look at the numbers and math involved, typically a stock itr will make 175whp + -. a b16 makes 140whp + -. take into account the weight difference of say 300lbs or so and you still have the type r winning. so mathematicaly, the type r would win. like i said, there are a lot of variables that come into play when comparing two cars.

to the OP, i would buy a gsr shortblock and use your head on it, that will yield much better results. then boost it :)

[LongLiveH2b]

nah no one lied to me, i've had seat time with many type-r's, and if that was tru that the "stock" b16 hatch walked on a type-r, he had to have some internal work or prob just spray.:thinking:So what are you talking about

[killerdx]

you are probably lookin at 155-165.I like tha b16.. im on my second one.they are deff. underestimated. Although they are quite torqueless.

[southside]

nah no one lied to me, i've had seat time with many type-r's, and if that was tru that the "stock" b16 hatch walked on a type-r, he had to have some internal work or prob just spray.:thinking:So what are you talking aboutNo spray it was a rebuilt b16.Type-R had test pipe and cams I dont know what Type-Rs run in the quarter.But alot of people say they arent that fast.From the ones I have seen:no: waste of money unless you just love tegs.I would just get a gsr and drop that money in it.:thinking: Im just sayin b16s have more potential then ppl assume.

[LongLiveH2b]

yea true the b16 are torqless but thats why they came with the short geared trannies, it was about 2 years ago i had a b16 with the LS tranny, OMFG tht **** went no where!!lol

[southside]

Patrick4588 yea there are many things that come into play but the Type-R was running strong.Alot of spinnage tho I dont know if yall feel the same way I do.But I have noticed that sum ppl that have alot of mods usually cant drive.So seems like they spend more money on there car to try to make up for the inexpirence.

[Vteckidd]

Ok i just recently bought a b16a with Built Head. stage 2 comp cams, and all valvetrain done. Hytec rep header.

\How much more HP do you think the fully built head adds? thanks.
+1 million hp
Heres a tip, DYNO IT AN FIND OUT

[southside]

yea true the b16 are torqless but thats why they came with the short geared trannies, it was about 2 years ago i had a b16 with the LS tranny, OMFG tht **** went no where!!lolI beat it screamed down the highway tho.:lmfao:

[Vteckidd]

B.S.- no "stock" b16 in a hatch(even gutted out) can pull a stock type-r

the only way the hatch would pull would be from a dig and it'll be in front for just a second or two cuz of the weight difference.
why not?:

ITRs are mid 14 second cars!~ Just cause its a ITR doesnt means its god gift to VTEC.

stop benchracing, its easily possible for any swapped hatch to beat an ITR, even a b16.

[Vteckidd]

hey a fully built b20vtec only broke 200+ and thats with skunk2 pro3 cams so dont expext that much from a b16
you have STAGE 3 not PRO3 cams

[Vteckidd]

Well it may not happen much, but my dads buddy has a civic hatch with a b16a n/a... running right at 205whp on the dyno with 110oct gas
Then he has the highest whp b16 in the state, if not the country.

POSTA DYNO CHART or i call BS

[Vteckidd]

That's kinda low?!? :???:


Are you using a good header? What size exhaust are you running? Is you're motor high compression? Are you tuned? Those cams might not be the best for your setup, if you're not high compression.

Well thats not that low considering that most people who do built motors locally never even come close to 200whp , its a motor thats slapped together, cams are degreed, etc.

Hes got a decent setup, but again, NA isnt like turbo, there is an art to it, if it isnt built right dont expect big numbers

[LongLiveH2b]

so now the b16 was rebuilt, and the type-r had cams,testpipes, i love how storys change down the line. look bro b16's do have potential but pretty much all the b-series have potential, it's just that some ppl like to be different and i am just advising that you'd be spending too much money on a 1.6 to get power "There is no replacement for displacement"

----->>oh to the OP just put the head on whatever u want, LS, b16, GSR, if your going all-motor u might want to use some higher comp. pistons,valves,etc. to make that stage 2 cam get to work.



No spray it was a rebuilt b16.Type-R had test pipe and cams I dont know what Type-Rs run in the quarter.But alot of people say they arent that fast.From the ones I have seen:no: waste of money unless you just love tegs.I would just get a gsr and drop that money in it.:thinking: Im just sayin b16s have more potential then ppl assume.

[southside]

so now the b16 was rebuilt, and the type-r had cams,testpipes, i love how storys change down the line. look bro b16's do have potential but pretty much all the b-series have potential, it's just that some ppl like to be different and i am just advising that you'd be spending too much money on a 1.6 to get power "There is no replacement for displacement"

----->>oh to the OP just put the head on whatever u want, LS, b16, GSR, if your going all-motor u might want to use some higher comp. pistons,valves,etc. to make that stage 2 cam get to work.How did the story change the b16 was still stock smart guy.So what are you talkin about man :screwy: Its funny how ppl suck up to Type-Rs like they the sh*t.Then when they get tore up its always gotta be some reason oh it aint running right.Friends b16 hatch ran a 14.1 quickest time.If a Type-R is a mid 14 sec car you should kno the outcome of dat.:thinking: :goodjob:

[allmotorX]

How did the story change the b16 was still stock smart guy.So what are you talkin about man :screwy: Its funny how ppl suck up to Type-Rs like they the sh*t.Then when they get tore up its always gotta be some reason oh it aint running right.Friends b16 hatch ran a 14.1 quickest time.If a Type-R is a mid 14 sec car you should kno the outcome of dat.:thinking: :goodjob::ninja: :ninja: :ninja:

[AnTi-PooN]

lol not

:tongue1:

[allmotorX]

:tongue1:lol

[IntegraXTR]

No spray it was a rebuilt b16.Type-R had test pipe and cams I dont know what Type-Rs run in the quarter.But alot of people say they arent that fast.From the ones I have seen:no: waste of money unless you just love tegs.I would just get a gsr and drop that money in it.:thinking: Im just sayin b16s have more potential then ppl assume.

and thats why you'll never own something like that or even as fast as one. Keep thinking that b16's are fast, you should tell your b16 crew to come run my gsr, its not even a TYPE-RRRRRRR.

[IntegraXTR]

so now the b16 was rebuilt, and the type-r had cams,testpipes, i love how storys change down the line. look bro b16's do have potential but pretty much all the b-series have potential, it's just that some ppl like to be different and i am just advising that you'd be spending too much money on a 1.6 to get power "There is no replacement for displacement"
----->>oh to the OP just put the head on whatever u want, LS, b16, GSR, if your going all-motor u might want to use some higher comp. pistons,valves,etc. to make that stage 2 cam get to work.

+1 finally, someone with a educated comment.

[bigdare23]

and thats why you'll never own something like that or even as fast as one. Keep thinking that b16's are fast, you should tell your b16 crew to come run my gsr, its not even a TYPE-RRRRRRR.


:eek:


Callout


:lmfao:

[all-mota]

lol this thread is a joke most of these guys with a few exceptions wouldn't know a fast car if it hit them in the face.


b16's are great engines it just takes more to make power with them because the displacement and and lack of torque. thats why ls swaps normally run right with b16 swaps on comparable cars.

if you really want to know to power of your car then dyno it. it could make 120whp or 165whp you never know just try it.

and just for the record i had a sirII b16 swap with crappy dc header skunk exhaust and skunk 2 intake manifold make 158 on a mustang dyno tuned on a chipped p28 i guess it was the little b16 that could.

[slopoke]

if you want 200whp reliably just sell the built b16 and throw an h22 in there... And you get torque too!

[southside]

and thats why you'll never own something like that or even as fast as one. Keep thinking that b16's are fast, you should tell your b16 crew to come run my gsr, its not even a TYPE-RRRRRRR.Seems like you wont own nothing fast as that either :thinking: seeing that you have a gsr and not a Type-R.:lmfao::lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: @ callout.

[BABY J]

This is fun.

[Black4DrEK]

thanks but im getting my car dyno'd , its a mainstream as of now, soo we will see in the next week!! O yea By the way if my car is back this week ill be out on SUNDAY soo ,, IF you want to run?? HOLLA!!!!!!

[h22ek]

b16b's come stock with 185hp , i would think the perfect build could make 200+ easy, tq i dunno i have never seen a b16 with more than 135tq n/a

[h22ek]

if you want 200whp reliably just sell the built b16 and throw an h22 in there... And you get torque too!


true that, i whooped a couple b16 turbos with an h22a in my day lol

[southside]

b16b's come stock with 185hp , i would think the perfect build could make 200+ easy, tq i dunno i have never seen a b16 with more than 135tq n/aSome guy on here had a ctr ek he put down 151whp

[seriousb13]

b16b's come stock with 185hp , i would think the perfect build could make 200+ easy, tq i dunno i have never seen a b16 with more than 135tq n/a

TO THE WHEELS IS A DIFFERENT STORY!

[Gorilla Eg!]

thanks but im getting my car dyno'd , its a mainstream as of now, soo we will see in the next week!! O yea By the way if my car is back this week ill be out on SUNDAY soo ,, IF you want to run?? HOLLA!!!!!!

getting a base dyno to see where your motor stands "as is" is a great start.....then you know what mods you have AND what power they are making.....wondering and hoping dont do much good.... as I found when I dyno'd my built b18c1 and it came up waaayyy short of what I had expected....knowing what you have, what power it makes, THEN planning your mods accordingly is the best thing I could advise....hope this helps :goodjob:

[Uptown401]

Hey i did my buddies b20b swap in his 00 ek coupe, doing a 40 roll....my b16 got walked on...well the 00 ek didnt just walk, it kinda starting jogging on my b16...lol but dig run, i smashed his azzz.........!

i got 3 offers with that so call built head of yours......

Poor mans type r
b20/vtec
ls/vtec

If not N/A...just boost that b16...you be pushing a good amount of HP and TQ

[IntegraXTR]

Seems like you wont own nothing fast as that either :thinking: seeing that you have a gsr and not a Type-R.:lmfao::lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: @ callout.


better than your primer piece of **** EF. And for your information, I've owned more cars then you will ever see in your life, hell...I probably owned more cars than your age. What year is your car? 89? You must be cool pulling up with that half ass rice bucket, do everyone a favor and just run that **** off a bridge.

P.S. I've made way more power than a ITR, don't have to own one.

[ejohnson88]

K20. End of story.

[southside]

better than your primer piece of **** EF. And for your information, I've owned more cars then you will ever see in your life, hell...I probably owned more cars than your age. What year is your car? 89? You must be cool pulling up with that half ass rice bucket, do everyone a favor and just run that **** off a bridge.

P.S. I've made way more power than a ITR, don't have to own one.Haha :lmfao: Sound like somones pissed Ok E THUG.Actually its a 90:thinking: How is my car a rice bucket:thinking:?Seeing I have nothing ricey on my car:lmfao: .If you wanna run dont talk sh*T Just come on down to the Southside.

[allmotorX]

Haha :lmfao: Sound like somones pissed Ok E THUG.Actually its a 90:thinking: How is my car a rice bucket:thinking:?Seeing I have nothing ricey on my car:lmfao: .If you wanna run dont talk sh*T Just come on down to the Southside.lol get em

[IntegraXTR]

Haha :lmfao: Sound like somones pissed Ok E THUG.Actually its a 90:thinking: How is my car a rice bucket:thinking:?Seeing I have nothing ricey on my car:lmfao: .If you wanna run dont talk sh*T Just come on down to the Southside.

wow, 1990!!!! LOL!

trust me man, you don't want to run me, hope you got a bottle to back that slow b16 up, if not then don't waste my time or yours.

[allmotorX]

wow, 1990!!!! LOL!

trust me man, you don't want to run me, hope you got a bottle to back that slow b16 up, if not then don't waste my time or yours.get a vid

[southside]

wow, 1990!!!! LOL!

trust me man, you don't want to run me, hope you got a bottle to back that slow b16 up, if not then don't waste my time or yours.Here we have another victim that sleeps on the b16.NO Bottle Seems like we have another person that will talk **** but never show.I guess he hasnt seen the vids:thinking: cuz if its a GSR teg your wastin my time.

[southside]

wow, 1990!!!! LOL!

trust me man, you don't want to run me, hope you got a bottle to back that slow b16 up, if not then don't waste my time or yours.:lmfao: I guess this guy thinks Cuz I have a ef means it will be slow:thinking: :lmfao: I see your a waste of time already.

[KevinT707]

Here we have another victim that sleeps on the b16.NO Bottle Seems like we have another person that will talk **** but never show.I guess he hasnt seen the vids:thinking: cuz if its a GSR teg your wastin my time.
But B16s are slow. And I know this because I use to have one, and your EF does look rough. You are right, for the most part GSR Tegs are slow so I would hope you can pull on one.

[southside]

^^^lol Yea I really like the rough look paint scares me.But I just stated that Type-Rs werent as fast as IntegraXTR thinks. He got his pantys in a bunch over it and start throwing a bit*h fit.Just my opinion b16s arent as slow as ppl think.And just because your b16 was slow doesnt mean they all are.:goodjob:

[allmotorX]

^^^lol Yea I really like the rough look paint scares me.But I just stated that Type-Rs werent as fast as IntegraXTR thinks. He got his pantys in a bunch over it and start throwing a bit*h fit.Just my opinion b16s arent as slow as ppl think.And just because your b16 was slow doesnt mean they all are.:goodjob:your right about that

[h22ek]

run 'em haha. and film it so we can all see what went down lol.

[EmminoDaGreat]

the only thing a b16 is good for is to pull the head off of it and put it on an ls block.
If they were so great someone would buy this b16 swap i have sitting around :D.

[JDMJAYDC2]

southside represent lol

[IntegraXTR]

But B16s are slow. And I know this because I use to have one, and your EF does look rough. You are right, for the most part GSR Tegs are slow so I would hope you can pull on one.

this is me we're talking about kevin, I always have something up my sleeve....

Haven't heard from you in a while, no more private meets?

And this idiot with a EF throws a $800 b16 swap in, goes hit vtec, and swears that he's the fastest **** around, he's a TYPE-RRRR KILLERRRR. LIRL!

[allmotorX]

this is me we're talking about kevin, I always have something up my sleeve....

Haven't heard from you in a while, no more private meets?

And this idiot with a EF throws a $800 b16 swap in, goes hit vtec, and swears that he's the fastest **** around, he's a TYPE-RRRR KILLERRRR. LIRL!he didnt exactly say he had a b16 swap he said his boy's b16 walks type r's and gsr;)

[IntegraXTR]

he didnt exactly say he had a b16 swap he said his boy's b16 walks type r's and gsr;)

ok then, gsr, ls/v, doesn't matter. If its bone stock with no internal work, then it is a waste of my time. Now if he has cams, valvetrain, mayben some block work, then I would be more than happy to run.

Other than that, I'm not fixing to drive 45 min to southside just to race. That would just be plain ignorant.

[allmotorX]

ok then, gsr, ls/v, doesn't matter. If its bone stock with no internal work, then it is a waste of my time. Now if he has cams, valvetrain, mayben some block work, then I would be more than happy to run.

Other than that, I'm not fixing to drive 45 min to southside just to race. That would just be plain ignorant.Thats true im not sure if its stock i ran it its pretty quick for a b16, but i gurantee its not stock no matter what they tell ya

[IntegraXTR]

we'll see, maybe I'll come out tonight, its just the gas prices are freakin crazy right now. $10 won't even get me down there and back.

[southside]

Thats true im not sure if its stock i ran it its pretty quick for a b16, but i gurantee its not stock no matter what they tell ya:D Lol you seen the motor.No cam gears,no headers,No intake mani But like I always say you cant see internals:ninja: .Just like you said yo motor was stock:lmfao:

[southside]

southside represent lolU already kno:D

[Uptown401]

WOW.....i got a Ef-er with a stock B16A....i wont do highway runs....but ill work on any stock b series swaps or tegs flaggin or red lights....lol

[mr.koupe]

omniman vid 200whp b16 how to the right way and not cost 1 million dollars........ :goodjob:

[IntegraXTR]

^^ wasn't that obtained with alot of machine work, like port job, etc.

[bigdare23]

b16s are slow




especially mines :D

[KevinT707]

b16s are slow




especially mines :D
And das da troof.