bmw suck....

[4dmin]

i bought a lightly used e46 in jan for my DD and have had nothing but issues since day one. it is the biggest piece of sh!t i have ever owned. (had to have new sensors, cats, o2, gas cap, etc in the first month of owning) so yesterday just driving and suddenly feel like i drove over something, but i know i didn't. battery light comes on, then car starts to run hot... pop the hood and see all of the radiator fluid just flowing out of the car. thinking it was just a belt which would of been awesome, oh no. idler pulley broke and smashed into resevoir and broke it as well. needless to say after having the car towed + fixed = 525$. :2up:

WORD OF ADVICE - I HAVE OWNED 2 BMW, 1 BENZ, 6 VW, 4 HONDA, AND 1 FORD... BMW ****ING SUCK!!! THEY HAVE LOADS OF COMFY OPTIONS AND LOOK NICE AND DRIVE NICE, BUT THEY ARE OVER PRICED POS. :goodjob:

I will hopefully have another real euro soon and be rid of this turd, i'm thinking VW, Audi, Benz, or Lotus are in the near future.

[Scotsman]

sorry to hear the crap news

[blackshine007]

sogoodm3 would think the opposite of what you said and find it offensive......

[4dmin]

sogoodm3 would think the opposite of what you said and find it offensive......

i don't give a sh!t BMW suck

http://www.scoobyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/audi.jpg

[blackshine007]

Oohh DaMn, I smell anger and 40 pages of how well built BMW's are.....

[IndianStig]

sounds like you got a lemon.

[Elbow]

i don't give a sh!t BMW suck

http://www.scoobyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/audi.jpg

I love that picture

[4dmin]

Oohh DaMn, I smell anger and 40 pages of how well built BMW's are.....

lol - i'm sure some will chime in later.

[blackshine007]

Well, I guess while we're waiting you should tell us how much your oil changes usually cost and how many quarts of oil it takes......

[ironchef]

Go back to the dub family, you'll be happier there.

[JennB]

sounds like you got a lemon.

Agreed... or someone took horrible care of it before you

The most painfully unreliable, piece of crap, wanted to blow it into a million pieces car I ever owned was..............









A Honda.


Thousands in repairs. I HATED that car.

[4dmin]

Go back to the dub family, you'll be happier there.

lol i know right... actually oil change on the e46 is cheaper then my benz, but the benz is a nicer ride

[ironchef]

New A4's are coming out this October, and they're pretty hot :D.

[4dmin]

Agreed... or someone took horrible care of it before you

The most painfully unreliable, piece of crap, wanted to blow it into a million pieces car I ever owned was..............









A Honda.


Thousands in repairs. I HATED that car.

honestly the car drove perfect, engine clean enough to eat off of, 1 previous owner w/ records, low miles... only issues i knew about were it was a smokers car and passenger window regulator was going (which is common in these cars)

[blackshine007]

Why is it that the average german car holds no less than 6 qts? Those damn M3's hold like 13 qts or something stupid. What's so wrong with 5 qts and let it go? German cars do suck...

[4dmin]

New A4's are coming out this October, and they're pretty hot :D.

test drove A5 today, planning on going to drive a new c350... A5 is absolutely beautiful but it is a slug. for 45-50k honestly it isn't worth it. i am kinda dissappointed in new audi's very $$$ for not alot of performance. you have to get into the 70k range to get a 400hp car. i think if i was gonna buy an audi i would consider a used RS6 450hp bi-turbo used in the 30's :goodjob:

http://www.compassluxor.com/autotrader/03RS6GreyBlk_N904421/DSC00058.JPG

[ironchef]

Once you sat in the A5, I think you're going to hate the interior in the C350, cause its trash lol. S5s are pretty quick, 0-60 under 5, 1/4 mile in the low 13s. And they start at $50k, which isn't bad.

[4dmin]

Once you sat in the A5, I think you're going to hate the interior in the C350, cause its trash lol. S5s are pretty quick, 0-60 under 5, 1/4 mile in the low 13s. And they start at $50k, which isn't bad.

ya the benz is a totally different car, but for 50k i can get new Elise and do 4.4-4.7 depending on model so apples/oranges

[Vteckidd]

l E X U S

[JITB]

just go and get a c63 amg...and eat ramen noodles for the next 4 years...lol

[4dmin]

l E X U S

i thought about that... c63 amg :lmfao:hell ya... "we thought 450hp was alot so we gave it 451hp" :lmao:

[Nissan Sean]

Audi S5= the sex.

[4dmin]

Audi S5= the sex.

ya it is but for 60k you can buy alot of nice rides.

ps. the Rick Case Audi sales manager TAISH(sp?) was a complete tool.

[On_Her_Face]

get a mkii GTI


ya it is but for 60k you can buy alot of nice rides.

ps. the Rick Case Audi sales manager TAISH(sp?) was a complete tool.

i agree with both statements, also the s5 is slow as hell.. thought about getting rid of the vette for it.

[4dmin]

get a mkii GTI



i agree with both statements, also the s5 is slow as hell.. thought about getting rid of the vette for it.

your vette has to be faster... i would think vette has better top speed too

[OneSlow5pt0]

08 R32,i want one so bad

[4dmin]

08 R32,i want one so bad

r32 are absolutly beautiful only thing they need is boost :goodjob:; i've seen mk4 ver going as low as 16k

[Nissan Sean]

what about a lexus ISF? but the S5 is more about style than performance. when the car looks that good, performance doesnt matter that much. lol its got a 400 hp engine anyway, goes good enough. atleast for me it does.

[4dmin]

what about a lexus ISF? but the S5 is more about style than performance. when the car looks that good, performance doesnt matter that much. lol its got a 400 hp engine anyway, goes good enough. atleast for me it does.

actually it has 350hp 4.2L v8... but you can get same performance out of a 20k GTI w/ k04 upgrade + software :D ... you might not look as good but you will when in the 1/4

[mocha latte cupcake]

reason #1 why bmw stands for Big Money Wasted...

[Nissan Sean]

it really depends on how much money your willing to spend, and what your criteria is for a new car. i still dont trust AUDI, they are not a very reliable brand of cars. from my experience anyway.

[IndianStig]

LEXUS.

Mr. Kidd is 100% right. IS350 seems like it was built for you haha.

[ironchef]

it really depends on how much money your willing to spend, and what your criteria is for a new car. i still dont trust AUDI, they are not a very reliable brand of cars. from my experience anyway.What does your experience consist of? I've had my 07 A4 for about 1.5 years now, with 24,000 hard driven miles on it. 0 problems.

[4dmin]

LEXUS.

Mr. Kidd is 100% right. IS350 seems like it was built for you haha.

actually i just checked out the IS-F :eek: that car is f*cking SEX

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=123158?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1

[ironchef]

Sex with an 8 speed auto, and fake tail pipes, lawl.

[4dmin]

Sex with an 8 speed auto, and fake tail pipes, lawl.

yes but the A5/S5 is all looks as well; atleast this car as over 400hp for the same price

[On_Her_Face]

your vette has to be faster... i would think vette has better top speed too

i was shocked at how slow the s5 was and another deciding factor is the tranny was not notchy at all whenever you put it in gear, which i do not like for some reason :???:

[ironchef]

The A5/S5's are meant to be GT cars, when the RS5 comes out, the story will be different.

[On_Her_Face]

Bring Money Withya FTL

[On_Her_Face]

The A5/S5's are meant to be GT cars, when the RS5 comes out, the story will be different.

ya with a even bigger price tag, so then a person has to ask himself/herself

rs5 or C6 Z06 (maybe even zr-1 depending on price of the rs5)

[ironchef]

If you're looking for all out performance than Z06 sure. However, if you're looking for good performance, luxury, a roof that doesn't fly off, and class then RS5.

[gforce23]

RS5 might come in at 75-80K which is definitely a lot less than the ZR1's tag of 100K. The new RS series is rumored to have 450ish hp and if the RS5 builds on the S5's good looks, Audi have a definite winner.

admin, have you driven a Vishnu tuned 335? 400+ hp for a grand more than the purchase price of a new car. It might just change your opinion about Bimmers.

[4dmin]

lol

[On_Her_Face]

If you're looking for all out performance than Z06 sure. However, if you're looking for good performance, luxury, a roof that doesn't fly off, and class then RS5.

LOL that was on the 05's and mainly just the regular TT vettes.

In my personal opinion i'd rather have the vettes for the price but everybody is different :cheers:

edit: Admin, i'm still saying get a mkii GTi and put a 1.8t in it FTW

[TheGodfather]

I agree completely.

While I have never owned one, my Aunt had 2 BMWs and were the worst cars she ever owned.

A girl in my high school with a 5 series had more problems and it was an 01 than my 93 Legend.

My neighbor had an old M3 that didn't run half the time.

I wouldn't ever want a BMW. But then again, I have heard about poor realibility in German cars for the most part, and I'm not too partial to them.

If you are going to go Euro, go Italian.

But some Mercedes just look like pure secks. Not many BMWs that even come close in the looks category.

Ahhh, I can't wait for the BMW penislover sogoodm3 to come in here and talk. If BMW was a person, sogoodm3 would blow him every nigiht.

[gforce23]

If you are going to go Euro, go Italian.

Until Alfa joins the party in '09 with the uber-sexy but affordable Brera, Spider and MiTo, I don't see how 99.99% of IAers (or 99.99% of the American population for that matter) can buy any Italian car (Ferrari, Maserati, Lambo, Bugatti or Pagani). Fiat's not here so that's outta the picture.

[TheGodfather]

Until Alfa joins the party in '09 with the uber-sexy but affordable Brera, Spider and MiTo, I don't see how 99.99% of IAers (or 99.99% of the American population for that matter) can buy any Italian car (Ferrari, Maserati, Lambo, Bugatti or Pagani). Fiat's not here so that's outta the picture.

Meh, Maserati isn't all that expensive. I mean it is, but affordable if you reach. And older Ferraris are reasonably priced for what it is, but I'm just speaking in generalities of the cars, not the likelihood of buying one.

[Alan®]

Meh, Maserati isn't all that expensive. I mean it is, but affordable if you reach. And older Ferraris are reasonably priced for what it is, but I'm just speaking in generalities of the cars, not the likelihood of buying one.
You can get 2nd hand Maseratti coupe for a halfway decent price don't know much about getting a ferrari for around 50k but I would love to get a 308 GTB

[gforce23]

Meh, Maserati isn't all that expensive. I mean it is, but affordable if you reach. And older Ferraris are reasonably priced for what it is, but I'm just speaking in generalities of the cars, not the likelihood of buying one.
Damn, you're actually right! '05 Maserati Sport coupes are all over fleabay for 50k or less.. I thought Mazzies retained their value like Ferraris.

Older Ferraris for less than 40k? Yeah, but you'd spend a truck load of money on upkeep. I'd rather buy a modern Maserati than an old-school Ferrari, at least until I can gather the dough to maintain one.

[Frög]

dude, i love BMW.. weve owned 6 BMW never had a problem with any..

[Alan®]

Damn, you're actually right! '05 Maserati Sport coupes are all over fleabay for 50k or less.. I thought Mazzies retained their value like Ferraris.not surprised the new ones probably will hold their value well though as they are built by ferrari and alfa romeo.

[gforce23]

not surprised the new ones probably will hold their value well though as they are built by ferrari and alfa romeo.
Maseratis have been built at the Modena factory since '01.

In fact, I just spent the past 30 minutes looking at Mazzies on fleabay. '06 Quattroportes (the classiest sedan IMO) are going for under $60k while '08 GranTurismos are selling 20k under the retail price of 125K. GT coupes are a real bargain though @50k.. enticing indeed.

[Alan®]

Maseratis have been built at the Modena factory since '01.

In fact, I just spent the past 30 minutes looking at Mazzies on fleabay. '06 Quattroportes (the classiest sedan IMO) are going for under $60k while '08 GranTurismos are selling 20k under the retail price of 125K. GT coupes are a real bargain though @50k.. enticing indeed.
but how long have they been getting parts from the 360,430 though? Not being a **** honestly don't know. I know in the new one almost the entire drivetrain comes from the 430.

[Echonova]

I read the first three posts and that's about it. Sounds like your BMW was not so "lightly used" as you thought. My mom now owns a 2003 5 series and has had 0 issues with it. Before that we had 12 years of 3 series that my mom had, passed to my sister, got her through college before it was finally sold of to another family. And other than having to replace the brake booster once, Nothing other than regular maint. was required.

[The Yousef]

Go back to the dub family, you'll be happier there.

yes...i see a MKV in your future young jedi.

[JennB]

Until Alfa joins the party in '09 with the uber-sexy but affordable Brera, Spider and MiTo, I don't see how 99.99% of IAers (or 99.99% of the American population for that matter) can buy any Italian car (Ferrari, Maserati, Lambo, Bugatti or Pagani). Fiat's not here so that's outta the picture.

Bugatti's are not Italian.

Built in France, owned by VW. Founded by an Italian, but that was a looong time ago.

Being in Europe for a while, I've seen so many awesome cars that I wish we had in the states. :(

Fiat's are funny looking. Most Renualt's are kinda weird. I love the Citroens and Puegot's. Some Opel's are pretty cool. The cars that BMW and Audi have over there that they never sold in the states are really neat. I want a real Euro now.

[gforce23]

Bugatti's are not Italian.

Built in France, owned by VW. Founded by an Italian, but that was a looong time ago.

Ahh yes, thanks for pointing that out. I think I meant Lancia and not Bugatti. ;)



Being in Europe for a while, I've seen so many awesome cars that I wish we had in the states. :(

lol .. you're not alone. The Focus ST220, 635d and Alfa Brera are permanent fixtures on my wishlist. Call me stupid but I think the 635d is the perfect DD, the Brera is the perfect (and affordable) car for a night out on the town and the ST220 just looks so bad ass in orange. A 1-series hatch wouldn't hurt either.

[JennB]

Lancia's are weird looking in person too.

I really want one of the big Citroens. I believe it's the C5. That's a damn good looking car in person.... though a little big for me to actually drive around.

[gforce23]

Lancia's are weird looking in person too.

I really want one of the big Citroens. I believe it's the C5. That's a damn good looking car in person.... though a little big for me to actually drive around.
I can't help but think queery stuff when I hear anything about French cars. Anyhow, the C5's interior looks a bit weird IMO:
http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2007/10/18/9071018.010/9071018.010.Mini21L.jpg

Judging by your comments on Cits and Peus, let me guess - are you in France by any chance? Citroens and Peugeots aren't big sellers in other parts of western Europe.

[TheGodfather]

If you are going to make the argument that Bugatti isn't Italian, than neither is Lamborghini. They are owned by VW as well, unfortunatley.

The only real Italian branch left is Ferrari, and falling under it's umbrella is Maserati, FIAT, and Alfa Romeo.

Sad if you ask me. I hope one day Italians reaquire Lamborghini from the damn Nazis.

[gforce23]

If you are going to make the argument that Bugatti isn't Italian, than neither is Lamborghini. They are owned by VW as well, unfortunatley.

I think Jenn was referring to the place of manufacture and not the citizenship of some owners.
Bugattis are made in France, Lambos are made in Italy. If ownership is the parameter by which current heritage is judged, then SEAT, Skoda and Bentley are all German (when they actually aren't).

Besides, it not as if the Nazis have completely destroyed Lambos.. the interiors are MUCH nicer from Lambos of yore.