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ShooterMcGavin
05-16-2008, 09:40 AM
check out the bolded parts...good for this guy and what he did, not many ppl turn down full rides to ivy league schools.


White valedictorian: A first for historically black Morehouse

ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Joshua Packwood knows what it's like to be a minority.


Joshua Packwood, 22, will be the first white valedictorian at the historically black Morehouse College.

This weekend he'll be the first white valedictorian to graduate from the historically black, all male Morehouse College in the school's 141-year history.

Morehouse, in Atlanta, Georgia, is one the nation's most prestigious universities of its kind. For more than a century, the school has prided itself on personifying the dream of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., one of the school's most notable alums, by producing "Morehouse Men" - intelligent and successful black leaders.

"Because I'm one of the only white students, it's easy to call me 'the white boy,' I'm naturally going to stand out," says Packwood.

But Packwood, 22, doesn't stand out solely because he is white or has maintained a 4.0 grade point average. For those who don't know him, what is surprising is that a Rhodes Scholar finalist turned down a full scholarship to Columbia University to attend the all-black men's university.

This came naturally to Packwood, who attended a predominantly black high school.

"A large majority of my friends, like all my girlfriends have been minorities," says Packwood. "So it was very, it was kind of strange that I always kind of gravitated to the black community."

Packwood fit in immediately at Morehouse. His charm, movie-star good looks and chiseled physique made him popular among students. He was elected dorm president and to class council during freshmen year - and was a favorite at campus fashion shows. White valedictorian makes history »

He also gained worldly experience studying and traveling abroad.

Adolescence was rough. His mother's second marriage to a black man ended in divorce and family tension forced him to seek refuge with his best friend's family - who were black and middle-class.

The experience of living with his best friend's family had a profound effect on Packwood, who says he saw a "different side of black America."

During his teens, Packwood says he got into his share of fights and even landed in jail a few times. Still, his grades were good and eventually earned him a full scholarships to Morehouse College and Columbia University.

Against the advice of some family members, Packwood gave up the scholarship to an Ivy League school. He felt the true college experience was at Morehouse - where he believed he would get more than an education.

"I gained this interest in African-American studies and I thought that Morehouse would probably be the best experience," says Packwood. "I think of it in terms of 'study abroad.' If I really want to learn it, if I really want to understand it - maybe it's best if I immerse myself in the culture."

"Mr. Packwood is deserving. He has earned this," says Dr. Robert Franklin, the president of Morehouse. "We are committed to merit, to hard work - no matter who it might be."

For the most part, Packwood says the experience among his Morehouse brethren has been overwhelmingly good - with the exception of a few negative comments.

"One guy came up to me and told me -- he didn't like the fact that I was here," recalls Packwood. "He absolutely didn't like the fact that I dated black women."

"So I heard him out, and said, 'I appreciate your opinion but don't agree with what you have to say,'...and now we've become, not necessarily close, but very cool," Packwood says.

That student, Vinson Muhammad, says he was curious about the reasons why someone like Packwood would choose to attend an all-black college.

"I don't necessarily support him being here, but because he's here and we can't discriminate against other races, I support him and his mission to be successful in life," says Muhammad, a junior. "I just kind of wish he had done it at a different institution."

Even though he received the support of school administrators, Packwood's scholastic success did not come without some controversy. When word got out that he might become the next valedictorian, some of his classmates - even friends - were admittedly chafed.

"They approached me and said, 'Yeah, I have a problem with you being valedictorian. I know you've earned it and even though I know you on a personal level - I like you a lot - but it disturbs me that out of roughly 3,000 black men - there's not one that's done as well as or better than you academically,' " says Packwood.
Still, the majority of students told CNN that he earned his accolades and they stand behind him. Some say, if anything, Packwood's academic success should serve as a lesson to his fellow students.

"I think that it should be a wake-up call to an all black campus," says Muhammad. "At Morehouse we're supposed to be at the top as black men. We only have a few white students and to see a white student will rise to this - is something unsettling to me because it shows that we need to work harder."

Campus administrators say that black or white, Packwood's experience is consistent with the school's mission: to produce future leaders.

"I think some of our alumni are a little nervous about a white student graduating from Morehouse with all of its rich history for producing African-American male leaders. But I don't think it's contradictory at all," says Sterling Hudson, the dean of admissions.

Overall, Packwood says his experience is the best proof of Morehouse success, because the school was able to produce a white valedictorian - against the odds. He's eager to quote the school's most notable alums.

"What Morehouse stands for at the end of the day, and what Dr. King epitomized, it's not about black or white, it's about the content of [a person's] character," says Packwood. "It's about me, representing Morehouse in that light -- not as a white man or a black man."

His experience was so positive that Packwood's younger brother, John, will follow in his footsteps when he enrolls as a freshman at the college next year.

Could this type of recruitment signal a new trend for Morehouse and other historically black colleges and universities?

"We're not aggressively pursuing white students," says Hudson. "But like every other college, we're interested in diversity. So, if a white student becomes interested in Morehouse - of course we are going to treat him like any other student."

For now, Packwood is enjoying his rise to the top. This week, he started his first job with the prestigious investment banking firm Goldman Sachs on Wall Street.

But he'll be back at Morehouse Sunday wearing his cap and gown along with the 500 members of his graduating class. Not as a white man or a black man - but as a Morehouse Man.

"The interesting thing about Josh's experience is that he had a full Morehouse experience," says Hudson. "When he marches across the stage on May 18 and receives his diploma, he's going to be a Morehouse Man in every way -- except ethnicity."

"I don't think ethnicity makes the difference; it's what's in his heart."

MistaCee
05-16-2008, 11:08 AM
Yea racism will never end..Too many ignorant people in the world, and its not one sided either.

ksniperfox
05-16-2008, 11:15 AM
as long as black people are dumb and ignorant nobody will like them.



threadjack-the same 7 year old hoodrat just got busted again. i was watching cnn and he beat up his grandma because she wouldnt buy him chicken wings.

typical true stereotype. next time he will probably steal them.


lol

Sammich
05-16-2008, 11:17 AM
Yea racism will never end..Too many ignorant people in the world, and its not one sided either.

x2

Nemesis
05-16-2008, 11:18 AM
If I went to Morehouse college would I be considered a minority?

ShooterMcGavin
05-16-2008, 11:18 AM
yeah, you'd be the only dumbass there :lmao:

Nemesis
05-16-2008, 11:19 AM
yeah, you'd be the only dumbass there :lmao:


oh durrr hurrr that was great

ShooterMcGavin
05-16-2008, 11:19 AM
wait you mean you got the joke? i'm impressed :goodjob:

ksniperfox
05-16-2008, 11:20 AM
yeah, you'd be the only dumbass there :lmao:



shiite, if he made good grades then there would only be 2999 dumbasses remaining.

Nemesis
05-16-2008, 11:21 AM
wait you mean you got the joke? i'm impressed :goodjob:


Im impressed you actually are responding to my posts, fag.

ShooterMcGavin
05-16-2008, 11:22 AM
yeah but it never took much to impress you ;)

Ed
05-16-2008, 11:24 AM
black people are just as racist as whites...

pbs is a fine example.

Nemesis
05-16-2008, 11:25 AM
yeah but it never took much to impress you ;)

Yeah, considering I dont really expect much from the likes of you. ;)

Sammich
05-16-2008, 11:25 AM
when u say that george..do u mean his kind..like..closed eyed muhfuccas?

Miranda
05-16-2008, 11:27 AM
yeah, you'd be the only dumbass there :lmao:
You're just on a roll today, aren't you? Meanie!

MistaCee
05-16-2008, 11:29 AM
as long as black people are dumb and ignorant nobody will like them.



threadjack-the same 7 year old hoodrat just got busted again. i was watching cnn and he beat up his grandma because she wouldnt buy him chicken wings.

typical true stereotype. next time he will probably steal them.


lol

Links or your a lie:lmfao:

Vteckidd
05-16-2008, 11:40 AM
What i find funny is that we still in this day an age of a "EXCLUSIVE BLACK" college.

I Mean how can they say they want to be treated equally , but we are going to segregate ourselves.

God forbid if we had an all white college, we would be racist

Sammich
05-16-2008, 11:41 AM
i went to a public college...

ksniperfox
05-16-2008, 11:42 AM
Links or your a lie:lmfao:


http://www.wpbf.com/news/16255951/detail.html?rss=wpb&psp=news


"Milton's grandmother, Vikkita Stratford, told WPBF that the 7-year-old took his mischievous activities to a new level Monday when she said he beat her up inside a Lake Park Wal-Mart.


According to Stratford, the problem began when Milton asked his grandmother for some chicken wings. When she refused, Milton walked over over to the counter and ordered them anyway.


Stratford said that when she confronted him about it, Milton just snapped.


"He just started hitting me -- just started hitting me in front of the whole Wal-Mart. Every one in there was upset," Stratford said.


Stratford told WPBF that Milton hit her stomach, legs and "wherever he could reach me."


Riviera Beach police picked up Milton from his home and took him to an area hospital for a mental health evaluation Monday afternoon, WPBF reported. The 7-year-old can be held for up to 72 hours while he is evaluated by mental health officials.


Stratford said that she believes Milton's problems are due to a bad atmosphere with his parents.


"I know what causes the behavior, cause all he's ever seen was his parents do physical and abusive and verbal things, and I don't want him to continue in this direction so I'm doing the best I can to get him the help," she told WPBF.


Stratford said that she is worried about what will happen once the 7-year-old is released from his evaluation. She also told WPBF that she is making sure that Milton won't have access to her rental car while her SUV is being repaired.


"When I first got the rental he said, 'Oh, you know, let me take this for a spin," Stratford said. "So now I just sleep with the keys. I lock them up.""

BKgen®
05-16-2008, 11:43 AM
lol i guess if you can't be smart in a regular school, go to where the dumb people are.

Sammich
05-16-2008, 11:44 AM
http://www.wpbf.com/news/16255951/detail.html?rss=wpb&psp=news


"Milton's grandmother, Vikkita Stratford, told WPBF that the 7-year-old took his mischievous activities to a new level Monday when she said he beat her up inside a Lake Park Wal-Mart.


According to Stratford, the problem began when Milton asked his grandmother for some chicken wings. When she refused, Milton walked over over to the counter and ordered them anyway.


Stratford said that when she confronted him about it, Milton just snapped.


"He just started hitting me -- just started hitting me in front of the whole Wal-Mart. Every one in there was upset," Stratford said.


Stratford told WPBF that Milton hit her stomach, legs and "wherever he could reach me."


Riviera Beach police picked up Milton from his home and took him to an area hospital for a mental health evaluation Monday afternoon, WPBF reported. The 7-year-old can be held for up to 72 hours while he is evaluated by mental health officials.


Stratford said that she believes Milton's problems are due to a bad atmosphere with his parents.


"I know what causes the behavior, cause all he's ever seen was his parents do physical and abusive and verbal things, and I don't want him to continue in this direction so I'm doing the best I can to get him the help," she told WPBF.


Stratford said that she is worried about what will happen once the 7-year-old is released from his evaluation. She also told WPBF that she is making sure that Milton won't have access to her rental car while her SUV is being repaired.


"When I first got the rental he said, 'Oh, you know, let me take this for a spin," Stratford said. "So now I just sleep with the keys. I lock them up.""

wow just wow

Motivation
05-16-2008, 11:46 AM
black people are just as racist as whites...

pbs is a fine example.


That is not a true statement......
















pbs isn't black

MistaCee
05-16-2008, 11:47 AM
http://www.wpbf.com/news/16255951/detail.html?rss=wpb&psp=news


"Milton's grandmother, Vikkita Stratford, told WPBF that the 7-year-old took his mischievous activities to a new level Monday when she said he beat her up inside a Lake Park Wal-Mart.


According to Stratford, the problem began when Milton asked his grandmother for some chicken wings. When she refused, Milton walked over over to the counter and ordered them anyway.


Stratford said that when she confronted him about it, Milton just snapped.


"He just started hitting me -- just started hitting me in front of the whole Wal-Mart. Every one in there was upset," Stratford said.


Stratford told WPBF that Milton hit her stomach, legs and "wherever he could reach me."


Riviera Beach police picked up Milton from his home and took him to an area hospital for a mental health evaluation Monday afternoon, WPBF reported. The 7-year-old can be held for up to 72 hours while he is evaluated by mental health officials.


Stratford said that she believes Milton's problems are due to a bad atmosphere with his parents.


"I know what causes the behavior, cause all he's ever seen was his parents do physical and abusive and verbal things, and I don't want him to continue in this direction so I'm doing the best I can to get him the help," she told WPBF.


Stratford said that she is worried about what will happen once the 7-year-old is released from his evaluation. She also told WPBF that she is making sure that Milton won't have access to her rental car while her SUV is being repaired.


"When I first got the rental he said, 'Oh, you know, let me take this for a spin," Stratford said. "So now I just sleep with the keys. I lock them up.""


Wow

Miranda
05-16-2008, 11:47 AM
What i find funny is that we still in this day an age of a "EXCLUSIVE BLACK" college.

I Mean how can they say they want to be treated equally , but we are going to segregate ourselves.

God forbid if we had an all white college, we would be racist
Oh no... what's even better is that schools have AA & women's Studies departments, but there are NO men's studies departments or Caucasian Studies departments ANYWHERE, even though that clearly violates most school bylaws. As one of them-thar Jews, I appreciate the Jewish studies departments, but not to the detriment of *true* equality.

Motivation
05-16-2008, 11:48 AM
The guy graduating from Morehouse went against the odds and overcame it. That says a lot about the guy.

Sammich
05-16-2008, 11:50 AM
black people are just as racist as whites...

pbs is a fine example.

WTF i just saw this LOL

i are not racise u wigger


That is not a true statement......



pbs isn't black

DOUBLE U TEE EFF:lmfao:

Motivation
05-16-2008, 11:50 AM
What i find funny is that we still in this day an age of a "EXCLUSIVE BLACK" college.

I Mean how can they say they want to be treated equally , but we are going to segregate ourselves.

God forbid if we had an all white college, we would be racist


x2. there is also all black magazines, tv channels, and scholarships for black people. Now don't get me wrong. I am not racist... But why give scholarships because a black person did something? Why not make it to whoever did the best... Where the first criteria to be eligible is not the color of the skin...

Vteckidd
05-16-2008, 11:51 AM
Oh no... what's even better is that schools have AA & women's Studies departments, but there are NO men's studies departments or Caucasian Studies departments ANYWHERE, even though that clearly violates most school bylaws. As one of them-thar Jews, I appreciate the Jewish studies departments, but not to the detriment of *true* equality.
Funny story

Once upon a time i was a state champion and all american swimmer. I got a full ride to NAU (Northern Arizona University), i moved to Phoenix and i was one week away from going up an meeting/talking with the coach to see if i was going to accept the college.

I got a call a few days before saying they had dismantled and cancelled the mens swim team because of that Title 11 or 9 or whatever. (the thing where they have to have equal mens and womens funding for sport programs)

So naturally the womens badminton team got approved but the mens Div II NCAA team got axed.

I lost my ride, went to ASU walked on, quit after a few days cause i just lost all motoviation.

Sammich
05-16-2008, 11:53 AM
x2. there is also all black magazines, tv channels, and scholarships for black people. Now don't get me wrong. I am not racist... But why give scholarships because a black person did something? Why not make it to whoever did the best... Where the first criteria to be eligible is not the color of the skin...


i dont know if this is true, but i thought there were white scholarships for whites who attend black schools..i know there are scholarships for other minorities..i mean..SOME of the time..minorities are in need of financial help for school..i dont see a reason NOT to reward them if they are scholarly ept.

PS i never received a black scholarship..i've received other scholarships..one was a engineering scholarship..just have to know where to look for monies

MistaCee
05-16-2008, 11:54 AM
There are scholarships for whites too...

Sammich
05-16-2008, 11:55 AM
There are scholarships for whites too...

I know i wasnt crazy...or that crazy:ninja:

Miranda
05-16-2008, 11:55 AM
Funny story

Once upon a time i was a state champion and all american swimmer. I got a full ride to NAU (Northern Arizona University), i moved to Phoenix and i was one week away from going up an meeting/talking with the coach to see if i was going to accept the college.

I got a call a few days before saying they had dismantled and cancelled the mens swim team because of that Title 11 or 9 or whatever. (the thing where they have to have equal mens and womens funding for sport programs)

So naturally the womens badminton team got approved but the mens Div II NCAA team got axed.

I lost my ride, went to ASU walked on, quit after a few days cause i just lost all motoviation.
you should watch this group's documentary:

http://indoctrinate-u.com/pages/welcome.html

ShooterMcGavin
05-16-2008, 11:55 AM
You're just on a roll today, aren't you? Meanie!
guilty as charged! :( :D

ShooterMcGavin
05-16-2008, 11:56 AM
lol i guess if you can't be smart in a regular school, go to where the dumb people are.
lol, nominating for most racist comment of the day.

ShooterMcGavin
05-16-2008, 11:56 AM
Yeah, considering I dont really expect much from the likes of you. ;)
yeah but you're used to living w/lowered expectations so you really don't expect much from anything/anyone :yes:

Motivation
05-16-2008, 11:58 AM
i dont know if this is true, but i thought there were white scholarships for whites who attend black schools..i know there are scholarships for other minorities..i mean..SOME of the time..minorities are in need of financial help for school..i dont see a reason NOT to reward them if they are scholarly ept.

PS i never received a black scholarship..i've received other scholarships..one was a engineering scholarship..just have to know where to look for monies

Think it was about 3-5 years ago. A guy from South Africa came to America, became a citizen and finished high school top of his class. He got a scholarship to an African-American school. When he went there the people in charge said he lost his eligibility because he was not an African-American because he was not black... I dunno, I guess everything in this world has a shady side... It's not white vs. black. It's ppl vs. ppl whether they are both caucasian or any other "race" I think if you were born in America, You are AMERICAN. If you become a legal citizen, then you are an AMERICAN. I don't think there should be any "hyphenated" Americans. It's one thing to still want to know your roots, but I am not a "German-American" just because my family from generations ago is from Germany... I am an AMERICAN, plain and simple.

ShooterMcGavin
05-16-2008, 11:59 AM
Oh no... what's even better is that schools have AA & women's Studies departments, but there are NO men's studies departments or Caucasian Studies departments ANYWHERE, even though that clearly violates most school bylaws. As one of them-thar Jews, I appreciate the Jewish studies departments, but not to the detriment of *true* equality.
what's so exciting about studying the ashes of 6 million ppl? :thinking: :lmao: yes, i know i'm going to hell :lmfao:

ShooterMcGavin
05-16-2008, 11:59 AM
x2. there is also all black magazines, tv channels, and scholarships for black people. Now don't get me wrong. I am not racist... But why give scholarships because a black person did something? Why not make it to whoever did the best... Where the first criteria to be eligible is not the color of the skin...
let us not forget affirmative action now...

ShooterMcGavin
05-16-2008, 12:00 PM
Funny story

Once upon a time i was a state champion and all american swimmer. I got a full ride to NAU (Northern Arizona University), i moved to Phoenix and i was one week away from going up an meeting/talking with the coach to see if i was going to accept the college.

I got a call a few days before saying they had dismantled and cancelled the mens swim team because of that Title 11 or 9 or whatever. (the thing where they have to have equal mens and womens funding for sport programs)

So naturally the womens badminton team got approved but the mens Div II NCAA team got axed.

I lost my ride, went to ASU walked on, quit after a few days cause i just lost all motoviation.

sounds like you found the perfect excuse to quit :D

Motivation
05-16-2008, 12:04 PM
There are scholarships for whites too...

Well that doesn't help the cause, don't think there should be scholarships ONLY for us crackers either...

Miranda
05-16-2008, 12:07 PM
what's so exciting about studying the ashes of 6 million ppl? :thinking: :lmao: yes, i know i'm going to hell :lmfao:
wow! You really will DIAF!

Sammich
05-16-2008, 12:08 PM
Think it was about 3-5 years ago. A guy from South Africa came to America, became a citizen and finished high school top of his class. He got a scholarship to an African-American school. When he went there the people in charge said he lost his eligibility because he was not an African-American because he was not black... I dunno, I guess everything in this world has a shady side... It's not white vs. black. It's ppl vs. ppl whether they are both caucasian or any other "race" I think if you were born in America, You are AMERICAN. If you become a legal citizen, then you are an AMERICAN. I don't think there should be any "hyphenated" Americans. It's one thing to still want to know your roots, but I am not a "German-American" just because my family from generations ago is from Germany... I am an AMERICAN, plain and simple.

WOW..HOW F'D UP

EJ25RUN
05-16-2008, 12:21 PM
what's so exciting about studying the ashes of 6 million ppl? :thinking: :lmao: yes, i know i'm going to hell :lmfao:

not funny.

MistaCee
05-16-2008, 12:25 PM
Well that doesn't help the cause, don't think there should be scholarships ONLY for us crackers either...

Very true.. I totally agree, but I don't think its going to change anytime soon.

Tank
05-16-2008, 03:28 PM
The guy graduating from Morehouse went against the odds and overcame it. That says a lot about the guy.
best statement in this thread so far gradts to the guy graduating and making validictorian im black and i look at it as a honor wether your white black green red to make this kind of accomplishment. however as some have said racism wont die unfortunatly thats why i try to educate my children so they will know we as male/females are all equal on this planet............................................ ..... well all of us except yousef :crazy:

SixSquared
05-18-2008, 01:51 PM
For more than a century, the school has prided itself on personifying the dream of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., one of the school's most notable alums, by producing "Morehouse Men" - intelligent and successful black leaders.

How can the school spend "more than a century" priding itself on the dream of someone who was born in 1929?

0p7!mu5
05-18-2008, 11:59 PM
man My family tried to push me into a HBC matter of fact I coulda gotten into Morehouse because my Uncle graduated and knew the dean of admissions. Like he spent a good 6mo tryin to convince me to go. I just thought it was retarded because Im not goin to be around a bunch of negroes all my life so put myself in an all black school. SO i said **** it and too the low road to perimeter. I dont regret it. If they are so hyped up on MLK then they woulda realized that a school like that is an oxymoron. How can you be equal but separate yourself? This isnt the 60's anymore or an apartheid so I say they should mix it up a bit. I gotta hand it to the guy if he got top of his class race shouldnt matter.