I got an Idea ZR1 vs GTR

[Kevykev]

Bets should be placed when the actually production models are compared.

Pick the top 3 Review Companies ie: (Car and Driver, Top Gear and motor trend)

Place actual $$$ bets on the car that will be the "King of the Ring" < LOL @ that.

If judgments conflict pick the best of three.

You guys come up with the rest.


Make it interesting!

don't place bets too high, don't want no body gettin' shot out herre.

http://www.gtrblog.com/media/blogs/gtrblog/GTRBlog/gtr-vs-zr1.jpg
...or postpone until V-SPEC is released?

UPDATE 5-13-2008

(2) $50 Bets and several $5 Bets Confirmed

[Got Milk?]

maan. ill own them both with my ferrari.

[DieselNuts]

I've got $5 on the ZR-1

[Sport1.3]

i give not a **** about either

[Got Milk?]

ZR1 is going to won dhaaa. Becuase producers of the Zr1 already knew what the GTR can do, so they did everything to make it better than the GTR.

[Sport1.3]

ZR1 is going to won dhaaa. Becuase producers of the Zr1 already knew what the GTR can do, so they did everything to make it better than the GTR.


plus the vette will always pull more ass, overpriced Nissan ftl

[Ran]

plus the vette will always pull more assNothing says "chick magnet" like appearing as a 40yr old man going through a mid-life crisis.

[Sport1.3]

Nothing says "chick magnet" like appearing as a 40yr old man going through a mid-life crisis.


I'd put money on it ;)

[SLOWR/T]

What are the tests were betting on? The normal mag. test or the fastest around the Nurbering? I think the ZR1 is over built for a street car. Over all the skyline will be the better car but the ZR1 is moreless a racecar. Ill put 5 on the skyline overall.

[SLOWR/T]

plus the vette will always pull more ass, overpriced Nissan ftl

You carry your 1 chick in the vette. Ill take 3 anyday :) Backseats 4TW!!!!

[man]

Nothing says "chick magnet" like appearing as a 40yr old man going through a mid-life crisis.

Which is going to be the case with both cars...

[Kevykev]

I see money already on the board!



What are the tests were betting on? The normal mag. test or the fastest around the Nurbering? I think the ZR1 is over built for a street car. Over all the skyline will be the better car but the ZR1 is moreless a racecar. Ill put 5 on the skyline overall.

There you go, that's exactly what needs to be discussed right now.


Ass factor can only be determined by a "real life" experience :D

[Sport1.3]

You carry your 1 chick in the vette. Ill take 3 anyday :) Backseats 4TW!!!!


:lmfao: i'll take my 10 and you can have your 3 7's

[SLOWR/T]

:lmfao: i'll take my 10 and you can have your 3 7's

3X7=21 more than double your 10 ;)

[Sport1.3]

3X7=21 more than double your 10 ;)


3 7's do not = a 10 sorry ....they still average a 7 :D

[OneSlow5pt0]

i still think the ZR1 will be the better track car

[patrick4588]

should be pretty close 1/4 mile. the gtr runs like an 11.5 if i remember

[SLOWR/T]

i still think the ZR1 will be the better track car

Of course. Its lighter, better brakes and more power just to name a few. I think over all the GTR will prevail

[JITB]

i got 3$ on the gtr!!!!!!!!! hasnt let me down yet!

[SLOWR/T]

should be pretty close 1/4 mile. the gtr runs like an 11.5 if i remember

IDK about that. The Corvettes, even though RWD they have been able to hook pretty damn good. Their saying mid 10's for the ZR1. We'll see.

[DieselNuts]

i got 3$ on the gtr!!!!!!!!! hasnt let me down yet!
$3? I cant even get a gallon of gas for that! :D

[OneSlow5pt0]

IDK about that. The Corvettes, even though RWD they have been able to hook pretty damn good. Their saying mid 10's for the ZR1. We'll see.

**** with good driver,i believe u can get the Z06 in to 10s,cant u

[OneSlow5pt0]

$3? I cant even get a gallon of gas for that! :D

yea,$3 will get me bout 12 miles

[Kevykev]

Categories

Track Times:

1/4 Mile:

Overall Review:


Two opposing parties need to place bets on each.


MINIMUM WAGER = $5.00 :D

[SLOWR/T]

**** with good driver,i believe u can get the Z06 in to 10s,cant u

Yeah a couple have been right outta the box. Bunch on DR have been in the 10's

[man]

Of course. Its lighter, better brakes and more power just to name a few. I think over all the GTR will prevail

All the GTR has going for it is its performance, the interior is made of legos and the exterior is nothing special (IMO)

[OneSlow5pt0]

Yeah a couple have been right outta the box. Bunch on DR have been in the 10's

so that being said, a zr1 on dr,might sneak into 9s?

[SLOWR/T]

so that being said, a zr1 on dr,might sneak into 9s?

Its possible. The tests will be on factory tires though so maybe it wont be able to hook :)

[DieselNuts]

damn the street tires.

So, are we gonna get a list together of the bets or what?

[Kevykev]

Let's not get off topic guys.

So far the Betters are JITB and Diesel, lets start making arrangements.

To the Rest, put your money where you mou....fingers are???

yeah that's about right!

OVERALL WINNER
JITB vs. Diesel
GTR-----ZR1

$5 Bet

[JITB]

i got 5$ via paypal.... let me do some reading before i put up my categories.

[RUFFIAN]

Nothing says "chick magnet" like appearing as a 40yr old man going through a mid-life crisis.The chick is going to chase your wallet
because if you are driving either of these cars your money obviously isn't nervous. I got $5 on the vette for the win.

[DieselNuts]

The engineer that stamps all my drawings was telling me that his brother just got a C6 ZO6. He's 62 and is dating a 26yr old stripper. I say, good for him, lol

[JITB]

when are they testing the zr1? your gettin ass in either one...

id prefer gettin it in the gtr, you would have more leg room...:)

[DieselNuts]

ehh, I dunno. I think the leg room in the front seat will be about the same. The GTR def. has more rear leg room though...

[Deke]

So you're not waiting on the vspec? That means you're comparing Chevy's top production car to Nissan's second tier. I call shenanigans. :)

[OneSlow5pt0]

well goign by 0-60 and 1/4 the Z06 is just as fast as the GTR

[patrick4588]

So you're not waiting on the vspec? That means you're comparing Chevy's top production car to Nissan's second tier. I call shenanigans. :)

very good point

[Nissan Sean]

make the bet V-spec vs. Zr1 and you got yourself a deal. or we can do z06 vs. GTR and we already know those stats.

[DieselNuts]

ZR1>V-Spec

[Kevykev]

So you're not waiting on the vspec? That means you're comparing Chevy's top production car to Nissan's second tier. I call shenanigans. :)

Well... I put that as an option but it seems that people are "GAME" for the GTR - ZR1 Comparo.



***** There is Another $5 Bet on the table ******

Someone needs to oppose RUFFIAN.

JITB- NO CATEGORIES for now, I see that causing issues for obvious reasons. Were going on -Overall Winner-

Only thing you get to agree on is the review company ie: Car and Driver, Top Gear etc.

[yerrow]

shuddup

[Elbow]

$50 on the Vette

[Alan®]

So you're not waiting on the vspec? That means you're comparing Chevy's top production car to Nissan's second tier. I call shenanigans. :)
Why? They just said that the Zr-1 was gonna knock down the GTR's nurburgring time down as it stands now.The ZR-1 is nothing but a street legal race car. while I won't be surprised if it out performs I wouldn't want one to drive around in everyday.

[DieselNuts]

I wouldn't want one to drive around in everyday.
I know opinions are like a$$holes, but thats what Jeremy Clarkston said about the C6 ZO6.

[Thighs]

ill put 50 on the zr1. **** the gtr.

[EJ25RUN]

this is lame.

[Alan®]

I know opinions are like a$$holes, but thats what Jeremy Clarkston said about the C6 ZO6.
Don't get me wrong the Z06 was an awesome car but I've ridden in one and that had to be one of the most uncomfortable rides I've ever been in

[Kevykev]

EJ25RUN, you showed up later that anticipated only to insult my thread - i am very disappointed in you sir.





Jesse with a $50 Bet??? WOW!!! Who will Match that?

REAL MONEY FOLKS, NO Turning back either!!! :D



shuddup

Next time you're closing shop, I might just throw an object through the window...

[Thighs]

actually simon had the first 50... lol

[Kevykev]

actually simon had the first 50... lol


My B, My B, Simon was first indeed :D

Need (2) $50 GTR Bets!

Any Takers?


Remember we're going on Overall - as in "OVERALL TOP GEAR PICKS THE _ _ _ over the _ _ _ !!!


Keep that in mind folks

[DieselNuts]

Don't get me wrong the Z06 was an awesome car but I've ridden in one and that had to be one of the most uncomfortable rides I've ever been in
I know what you are saying, Im just saying that Jeremy Clarkston agrees w/your opinion :goodjob:

[EJ25RUN]

EJ25RUN, you showed up later that anticipated only to insult my thread - i am very disappointed in you sir.


i frequent 5 forums and it has been beaten beyond death. not trying to take away from your thread.

[khan351]

ive got my money on the ZR1

[Kevykev]

i frequent 5 forums and it has been beaten beyond death. not trying to take away from your thread.


There are Betting threads on other forums?


Well, then again, it wouldn't be a surprise whatsoever.


I just figured that the people arguing over this topic for months need to put their $$$ where their mouf izzz. :D

[seanrg1116]

IMHO not a fair race



600+hp vs. 470hp
3300lbs 3800+lbs

we already know that the Z06 will start to walk on the gtr at 100mphs so whats the point.
The only way for this to be a fair bet would be with the V-spec

[DieselNuts]

IMHO not a fair race



600+hp vs. 470hp
3300lbs 3800+lbs

we already know that the Z06 will start to walk on the gtr at 100mphs so whats the point.
The only way for this to be a fair bet would be with the V-spec
GTR=AWD
ZR1=RWD

that should make up for the lack of hp in the shortline acceleration category...

[JITB]

IMHO not a fair race



600+hp vs. 470hp
3300lbs 3800+lbs

we already know that the Z06 will start to walk on the gtr at 100mphs so whats the point.
The only way for this to be a fair bet would be with the V-spec


if it was that simple...there would be no need to race!

[Thighs]

^^it is that simple.

vspec will be closer, but it will still lose.

and i thought we were betting on the ring lap times?

[Kevykev]

and i thought we were betting on the ring lap times?


You can, but people aren't getting together and agreeing on anything.

We need a $50 GTR guy so you two can collaborate.

[type_r]

All I have to say is lol at the people talking **** about the GTR's....... yea the interior is garbage but who gives a **** if you want a car for the experience of driving it(i.e. anyone who buys a GTR) it shouldn't matter. But zr1 will win in a straight line, however I personally would rather have a v-spec due to AWD and such.

[Oz10]

zr1 ftw

[JITB]

^^it is that simple.

vspec will be closer, but it will still lose.

and i thought we were betting on the ring lap times?

lol if u say so!

zonda
carrera Gt
GT2
koenigsegg

are all lighter, and have more power than the gtr...and put up slower times..

BUT THE ZR1 has been seen running 7:40's on the ring..already..

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/corvette-zr-1-ring-times-in-low-7-40s-gt-r-v-spec-amused/

But it was said to be
"Damp track, 2 occupants, Unofficial time measured by bystanders at the track."

[Alan®]

All I have to say is lol at the people talking **** about the GTR's....... yea the interior is garbage but who gives a **** if you want a car for the experience of driving it(i.e. anyone who buys a GTR) it shouldn't matter. But zr1 will win in a straight line, however I personally would rather have a v-spec due to AWD and such.
noob alert :police: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[OneSlow5pt0]

thats what i dont under stand..u have a 3900 pound car making 4xxhp,awd......and it can beat a 1900 pound Mid-engine 400hp car.......just doesnt add up to me

[JITB]

thats what i dont under stand..u have a 3900 pound car making 4xxhp,awd......and it can beat a 1900 pound Mid-engine 400hp car.......just doesnt add up to me


it is a little crazy... but "what is power without control"..like pirelli says..lol

[OneSlow5pt0]

it is a little crazy... but "what is power without control"..like pirelli says..lol

yea,the car im tlaking bout ti my fav noble m400,which pulls a 1.5g,0-60 in 2.9sec and top speed of 197mph....which weighs right round 2k pounds,its amazing machine,more so then either the ZR1 or GTR,imo........but then agian it is a race car built for the Street,not a DD..like these could be

[type_r]

noob alert :police: :lmfao: :lmfao:

ok, douche alert

All I'm saying is there's no point in downgrading a GTR. What the **** is wrong with a GTR? Obviously a zr1 has the ingredients to best one, but I dont understand all the people talking **** about GTR's like their eclipse could ever touch one:blah::blah::blah::blah::blah:

[DieselNuts]

ok, douche alert

All I'm saying is there's no point in downgrading a GTR. What the **** is wrong with a GTR? Obviously a zr1 has the ingredients to best one, but I dont understand all the people talking **** about GTR's like their eclipse could ever touch one:blah::blah::blah::blah::blah:
Welcome to the internet. Forums are built for the sole purpose of people being able to communicate with others and share opinions. Take what people say with a grain of salt and you will live to see another day.

That being said....ZR1 FTMFW!!!!!!!!

[OneSlow5pt0]

ok, douche alert

All I'm saying is there's no point in downgrading a GTR. What the **** is wrong with a GTR? Obviously a zr1 has the ingredients to best one, but I dont understand all the people talking **** about GTR's like their eclipse could ever touch one:blah::blah::blah::blah::blah:

where is this **** talking coming from?

if anything the GTR is getting overrated all ready,and being praise as greatest car ever,just like that tank veyron did

[Elbow]

All I have to say is lol at the people talking **** about the GTR's....... yea the interior is garbage but who gives a **** if you want a car for the experience of driving it(i.e. anyone who buys a GTR) it shouldn't matter. But zr1 will win in a straight line, however I personally would rather have a v-spec due to AWD and such.

.....lol.........no.

[type_r]

The same thing that happened with the GTR being overrated is going to happen with the zr1, there are fanboys everywhere in all shapes and sizes. A lot of people are just going to say zr1 because they dont like GTR's, it's all relative. It's all personal taste. With supercars like these it's not so much who goes faster, whether you buy a V-spec or a zr1 it's not like you wont be satisfied on the street. I just want someone to explain to me their hatred for GTR's as it doesn't make sense to me.

[JITB]

so u all think the zr1, can drop 15 seconds, off the clock. without a passenger, and on a completly dry track....

gtr ran a 7:32 on a damp track..

[Alan®]

ok, douche alert

All I'm saying is there's no point in downgrading a GTR. What the **** is wrong with a GTR? Obviously a zr1 has the ingredients to best one, but I dont understand all the people talking **** about GTR's like their eclipse could ever touch one:blah::blah::blah::blah::blah:
Wow you still didn't get what I was getting at. Here let me break both of your posts down for you.


All I have to say is lol at the people talking **** about the GTR's....... yea the interior is garbage but who gives a **** if you want a car for the experience of driving it(i.e. anyone who buys a GTR) it shouldn't matter. But zr1 will win in a straight line, however I personally would rather have a v-spec due to AWD and such.
I really don't see where people are talking **** about the car more are simply stating their opinoin.

I agree with you on the interior part but something to consider.
1.It's a Nissan not an Infinity
2. For 70k you should still be getting a nice interior like you do
in the porsche it rivals

As far as the people buying this car. Cars like these are more a status thing. I have found that people who buy cars like these and the Z06 or the ZR1 for that matter really don't know squat about their car.

This is why I called you a noob


personally would rather have a v-spec due to AWD and such :thinking: The V-Spec isn't even out yet and the GTR base model has AWD so what the hell are you talking about?

I won't even adress your even noobier post because no one in this thread including me have said that their cars could even slightly hold a candle to either of these cars. Both of these cars are built to be streetable race cars. IMHO. The GTR will win the all around better car contest hands down put me in for $5. As far as in a race around the ring I don't know squat about the ZR1's so I won't open my mouth on things on which I know nothing about :rolleyes: .

[OneSlow5pt0]

so u all think the zr1, can drop 15 seconds, off the clock. without a passenger, and on a completly dry track....

gtr ran a 7:32 on a damp track..

well with good driver i dont seem why the ZR1 one couldnt,it has more horsepower and weighs less

also the does the GTR have the big carbon brakes like the ZR1?

[Alan®]

well with good driver i dont seem why the ZR1 one couldnt,it has more horsepower and weighs less

also the does the GTR have the big carbon brakes like the ZR1?
No but the carbon brakes are coming on the V-Spec model.

[type_r]

I know the GTR comes standard with AWD but v-spec=better overall package. Yes I did misread your post my bad I'm in a ****ty mood due to being suspended and not thinking clearly. Not so much in this thread but in others people have been saying OH YEA **** GTR'S THEY'RE OVERATED PIECES OF **** **** THEM **** **** **** which I dont really understand. I mean yea the interior is not the nicest (however I dont understand the claims against the exterior-what does it need?) but you will spank the 70k Porsche when you race it. I think the image Nissan is going for with this thing is a street legal race car, you pay 70k for the engineering, not a gangsta suede interior or some ****. I vote GTR.

[OneSlow5pt0]

exactly if i had 100k to blow on a car,it will be a gangsta SLK55 AMG,lol...i could give 2 ****s bout being the fastest

[type_r]

And that's personal opinion. Either of those would be cool with me, but you're paying for different things. Anyone who picks a GTR for luxury=dumbass. Therefore criticizing it for that is pointless, it wouldn't cost 70k from Nissan if they would've wanted it to have an interior rivaling others. That would have marked it way up and ruined the whole point.

[Alan®]

And that's personal opinion. Either of those would be cool with me, but you're paying for different things. Anyone who picks a GTR for luxury=dumbass. Therefore criticizing it for that is pointless, it wouldn't cost 70k from Nissan if they would've wanted it to have an interior rivaling others. That would have marked it way up and ruined the whole point.
Not really considering for what the car does it should(according to them and the press anyways)cost $400K. I see what you mean and Nissan could definitely make the interior nicer while keeping it racey without jacking the price up too much. But personally the interior is nice enough for me and I usually only have one other person in the car anyways so back seats is really not an issue for me.

Here's what it comes down too for me. I have less of a problem paying 70k for a Nissan than I do paying 100k+ supposedly for a Chevy.

[type_r]

For me the interior in my Jeep is nice enough. I dont care about the dashboard as long as the car does what it should. The interior isn't ****ty unless you're comparing it to 100k+ cars(which is what everyone is using as a reference), it's nice enough for me. People just need to remember the fact that it's not a Bentley, it's a Nissan. Hell it isn't even an Infinity. It's not being marketed as a luxury car so it shouldn't be scrutinized as one.

[Alan®]

For me the interior in my Jeep is nice enough. I dont care about the dashboard as long as the car does what it should. The interior isn't ****ty unless you're comparing it to 100k+ cars(which is what everyone is using as a reference), it's nice enough for me. People just need to remember the fact that it's not a Bentley, it's a Nissan. Hell it isn't even an Infinity. It's not being marketed as a luxury car so it shouldn't be scrutinized as one.
problem is it's competing with luxury sports cars.

[JITB]

i remember when everyone used to bash so much on the vette soo bad on IA, about the ****ty interiors etc...

its a known fact, anything new is never good enough!!

[DieselNuts]

I vote GTR.
put your money where your....finger tips are


Hell it isn't even an Infinity.
ugh, you make me sick with this sentence...


I agree with you on the interior part but something to consider.
1.It's a Nissan not an Infinity
I expected better from you than this ::hangs head in shame::


i remember when everyone used to bash so much on the vette soo bad on IA, about the ****ty interiors etc...
This is something that I am very suprised at. I cant believe everyone is complaining about nissan's interior, but not mentioning the vette's interior at all.

[type_r]

problem is it's competing with luxury sports cars.

True, but it's not in the same league as the cars it's competing with. No 70k luxury sports car will come close to touching a GTR. You would have to spend over twice as much money to get a "luxury" car that will stay with one. IMO the GTR is kind of in its own class, I'm not trying to be a fanboy or anything but it is a pretty unique vehicle considering its price from Nissan and it's performance numbers.

[Alan®]

put your money where your....finger tips are


ugh, you make me sick with this sentence...


I expected better from you than this ::hangs head in shame::


This is something that I am very suprised at. I cant believe everyone is complaining about nissan's interior, but not mentioning the vette's interior at all.
I don't know what your problem is. Personally I love the interior I have nothing but good things to say about it but if people are expecting suede wrapped steering wheels and leather wraped everything it simply isn't gonna happen. I think for a 70k car it's awesome. The corvette's interior even in the ZR1 still hasn't changed from the base model with the exception of suede inserts on the seats. I simply don't like American cars. As far as vettes go I'd rather have a used Z06 than this overpriced ZR1. The only reason I said anything about the interior is because people for some reason expect so much from it when Nissan's mission was to blow the doors off the competition which it successfully has IMO. As for anyone that says the ZR1 versus the regular GTR isn't a fair fight I think it is.

[JITB]

This is something that I am very suprised at. I cant believe everyone is complaining about nissan's interior, but not mentioning the vette's interior at all.


exactly.. noone ever comments on bmw's 1980 lego designed interior...lol

maybe they are not ready for godzilla! :lmfao:

first it was the motor, than the weight, than the no modification thing, than the price, than the hp, than the mark up, now its the interior..lol

how much was the r34 retailed at 89k?

[Alan®]

exactly.. noone ever comments on bmw's 1980 lego designed interior...lol

maybe they are not ready for godzilla! :lmfao:

first it was the motor, than the weight, than the no modification thing, than the price, than the hp, than the mark up, now its the interior..lol

how much was the r34 retailed at 89k?
That's just people in general though man. people will always have something to b1tch about.

[OneSlow5pt0]

i could careless bout interior........i give the the car its due,for being fast...but i still like the Z06 and ZR1 more,mostly just for cosmetic.and im a vette man at heart

[type_r]

It does seem like people are just trying to pick something out that's wrong with GTR's. Personally I don't see anything wrong with a GTR or a zr1, they both have their advantages and disadvantages. But it is funny that noone is bitching about the zr1 because it actually is overpriced(so I guess there is one thing wrong with it) I dont see any 100k+ ideas put into that car. Yes, the ls9 is a badass motor but that can be built at home better and cheaper. I think people are motivated to talk **** about GTR's because of Nissan fanboys who ruin everything. There just aren't enough zr1 fanboys here to solicit any negative responses about it.

[SLOWR/T]

Ill throw $50 on the GTR

[DieselNuts]

I don't know what your problem is. Personally I love the interior I have nothing but good things to say about it but if people are expecting suede wrapped steering wheels and leather wraped everything it simply isn't gonna happen. I think for a 70k car it's awesome. The corvette's interior even in the ZR1 still hasn't changed from the base model with the exception of suede inserts on the seats. I simply don't like American cars. As far as vettes go I'd rather have a used Z06 than this overpriced ZR1. The only reason I said anything about the interior is because people for some reason expect so much from it when Nissan's mission was to blow the doors off the competition which it successfully has IMO. As for anyone that says the ZR1 versus the regular GTR isn't a fair fight I think it is.
I was talking about the way you wrote "Infinity"...its Infiniti

[JDMirza]

I hate to say it, ZR1 got it in the bag though.

[Alan®]

I was talking about the way you wrote "Infinity"...its Infiniti
my bad lol :lmfao:

[Kevykev]

-----Ill throw $50 on the GTR-----


You are Paired with SIMONTIBBETT

Good Damn JOB Stepping up!



Seriously PEOPLE Keep this Thread to the Point, BETTING ONLY




- watch me end up getting arrested for racketeering or some shi+ like that :lmfao:

[EJ25RUN]

it's a Nissan. Hell it isn't even an Infinity.

it took you nine words to prove that you have absolutely no knowledge of cars outside of minor tuning (your sn is type r :rolleyes: )

Go read somefacts and learn something before you post.

That meeting went down and the right thing happened.

Go keep walking around thinking you know about cars when you don't have a clue.

[Kevykev]

it took you nine words to prove that you have absolutely no knowledge of cars outside of minor tuning (your sn is type r :rolleyes: )

Go read somefacts and learn something before you post.

That meeting went down and the right thing happened.

Go keep walking around thinking you know about cars when you don't have a clue.

:lmfao: wow, you let 'em have it.

[Sol-Badguy]

:lmfao: @ this kid.

[Elbow]

I am serious about my $50 too ;)

And why is the interior like the huge fighting point in here? It'd be cool if it was bare metal, no dash, a STACK display, and loud and hot, then I would want a GTR.

[Kevykev]

I am serious about my $50 too ;)

.


And that is appreciated!

[Deke]

It does seem like people are just trying to pick something out that's wrong with GTR's...

...I think people are motivated to talk **** about GTR's because of Nissan fanboys who ruin everything.

While I don't necessarily agree with a lot of the stuff you've posted, I do agree 100% on this.

Almost every thread on this forum that has pertained to the new GTR (most notably comparison threads) has been full of bitching about it. I understand how fanboys can turn someone off from a car. Personally, I frequently get annoyed by the "My car is better that everyone elses" mentality that a lot of Vette and Porsche owners carry (note: "a lot" not all). It often just puts the cars in a negative light for me. However, I can get past this and appreciate that both of the previously mentioned cars are indeed great purpose built automobiles.

I'm convinced that the people that talk negatively about the GTR are affected the same way by nissan fanboys and the constant praise that the car receives; They just can't get past their annoyance and see that even though it has weaknesses (like every other car ever made), it's still an amazing machine.

Sorry for the slight off-topicness. :)

[type_r]

it took you nine words to prove that you have absolutely no knowledge of cars outside of minor tuning (your sn is type r :rolleyes: )

Go read somefacts and learn something before you post.

That meeting went down and the right thing happened.

Go keep walking around thinking you know about cars when you don't have a clue.

Sorry I spelled Infiniti wrong.......:gay: If that's not it the point I was trying to make that it's a Nissan, its strictly performance based and isn't going for luxury.
Type R is a reference to my stereo system and mostly a quick decision, could've made a better name but oh well it doesn't represent me as a person. Saying I dont have a clue is just a bit ignorant seeing as you dont know me at all, so go keep walking around with the notion that you aren't a total prick. I guess I'll have time to sit around and scrutinize every fact about cars later in life(considering you're probably twice my age) but for now I think I'll stay involved in these discussions no matter what you say to me.

[JITB]

i want my money... word is the zr1 is runnin 7:40's

[MINI]

ZR1= $100,000
GTR= $70,000

The ZR1 is .7 seconds faster then the GTR.

So... $30,000 for .7 second quicker in the quarter?

[JITB]

ZR1= $100,000
GTR= $70,000

The ZR1 is .7 seconds faster then the GTR.

So... $30,000 for .7 second quicker in the quarter?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/jitb37/Favorites/flying_kick.jpg

[Kevykev]

We'll let Top Gear Decide.

Votes are Locked IN!

[josh green]

GTR wins b/c of price..........

[EJ25RUN]

911 Turbo PDK trans will beat all.

/thread

[MINI]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/jitb37/Favorites/flying_kick.jpg


haha damn sorry

[81911SC]

Pay up or ban time.

[DieselNuts]

i want my money... word is the zr1 is runnin 7:40's
whatever word you were getting was way off...

[Kevykev]

911 Turbo PDK trans will beat all.

/thread


BAN!

[JITB]

whatever word you were getting was way off...


it was word...and it "was" runnin 7:40 but they managed to get another 15secs.. off the time!

[EJ25RUN]

BAN!

Lol, but seriously, the 2009 911 Carrera S with PDK is 1 sec slower than a 2008 911 Turbo, you really think that the redone models for 2009 with direct injection, PCCB, and the PDK will drop time allot. Even the 2010 GT3 rs will have this setup so a Turbo model should put up an impressive lap.

[81911SC]

Lol, but seriously, the 2009 911 Carrera S with PDK is 1 sec slower than a 2008 911 Turbo, you really think that the redone models for 2009 with direct injection, PCCB, and the PDK will drop time allot. Even the 2010 GT3 rs will have this setup so a Turbo model should put up an impressive lap.Listen to him. He types what I'm to lazy for. :D

[EJ25RUN]

it was word...and it "was" runnin 7:40 but they managed to get another 15secs.. off the time!

true, allot of these times are unofficial and are done by stop watches of bystanders around the track. Even the V-Spec lap is unofficial.

[Kevykev]

Lol, but seriously, the 2009 911 Carrera S with PDK is 1 sec slower than a 2008 911 Turbo, you really think that the redone models for 2009 with direct injection, PCCB, and the PDK will drop time allot. Even the 2010 GT3 rs will have this setup so a Turbo model should put up an impressive lap.


This thread isn't about the DAMNED POOR SHAAH!


WE WILL SEE WHEN TOP GEAR OR C&D Does the REVIEWS - BET MONEY WILL BE ISSUED THEN. WHOEVER FAILS TO HONOR WHAT THEY'VE WAGED WILL SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES

I will also have EJ25 Bombard all of your threads with options that were not even remotely related.

IE: ACURA or INFINITI

EJ25 - "PORSCHE"

:cheers:

[EJ25RUN]

POOR SHAAH!



2 syllables :goodjob:

[Kevykev]

2 syllables :goodjob:


"POUR" is more suitable now that i think of it. :D

[EJ25RUN]

"POUR" is more suitable now that i think of it. :D

While we are on diction.....

I think that Nürburgring is a pronounced as a 4 syllable word.

Listen to how it's pronounced in this vid.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PtMxzFMcFW4

Sounds like "Nur - Em - Burg - Ring"

[Kevykev]

Interesting