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DrAE86Toreno
05-07-2008, 10:06 PM
gota decide on a motor!!!...20V ITB awsome NA engine...high revving good throttle response...awsome ITB sound...rips panties...but parts might have to be ordered online and wont make easy HP compared to ZE OR 4AGZE supercharged 145 HP nice low end good for tearing up some hondas....ehhm ehhm response isnt as good as 20V

SLOWLYbtngU
05-07-2008, 10:35 PM
4agze... mmmkay?

DrAE86Toreno
05-07-2008, 11:40 PM
ur epinion doesnt count...NEXT! lol jk!

SupraCoupe
05-08-2008, 02:03 AM
I say you drop a 2jz in it and call it a day, j/k, I would go wit the one wit the better aftermarket support, but that's just me

EJ_Allmota
05-08-2008, 09:04 AM
I say you drop a 2jz in it and call it a day, j/k, I would go wit the one wit the better aftermarket support, but that's just me
X2...

Hitman2.0
05-08-2008, 10:00 AM
i agree

DrAE86Toreno
05-08-2008, 10:34 AM
hmm...they are both have the same support really...4agze is popular for the boosted crowd...and 20V is the motor used for toyota/formula atlantic racing...i guess its the difference in characteristics....i just dont know what i want to go for right now...iv always loved NA tho..hmm..

Thighs
05-08-2008, 10:36 AM
what are you doing with it?

SLOWLYbtngU
05-08-2008, 11:04 AM
iv always loved NA tho..hmm..
Then there is your answer...Dont ask no more stupid questions mmmkay? ;)

DrAE86Toreno
05-08-2008, 11:57 AM
like i sed ur epinions dont matter.....mmmkay?

uhm i wna pick up chicks....lol just a daily driver...weekend car just something to have fun reli on/off the street.

Sport1.3
05-08-2008, 12:09 PM
Speaking as a previous 20v owner, go with the gze :lmfao:


they are GUTLESS!! imo i wouldnt bother with either. A nice high comp 16v is a much cheaper alternative to a 20v and there are WAY more parts available for it. or just Turbo a largeport 16v (non gze) they handle moderate boost just fine and take well to F/I mods.


The real questions are: what is your budget? and what do you hope to achieve with the car its going in?

SupraCoupe
05-08-2008, 12:10 PM
I read up on the 4agze and you could get a good bit of power easily out of that motor, but like jesse4846 said it depends on what you want out of the car

SLOWLYbtngU
05-08-2008, 12:48 PM
like i sed ur epinions dont matter.....mmmkay?

:chuckles:

DrAE86Toreno
05-08-2008, 02:33 PM
uhm i dont know my budget yet....or what i want to spend...i know im not gona sell the next one i get...guess ill just close my eyes n pick a motor...lol...i hopefully wna road race it or maybe...learn how to drift like takumi or sumtin...hmm..lol.

redpanda
05-08-2008, 05:03 PM
4agzeeeeee

boosted_nonv
05-08-2008, 05:23 PM
4age boosted, if its not too expensive

SLOWLYbtngU
05-08-2008, 05:55 PM
Hmm... looks like everyone agrees with me huh? Hmm... :yes:

I am Puerto Rican retard!!! You stole our quote on your myspace! remember that mmmkay? :goodjob:

DrAE86Toreno
05-08-2008, 06:22 PM
damn retarded puerto ricans..at least u admit it...and no i didnt jack it...jus cuz i got it first n u into toyotas dnt mean ur hot **** k? remember dat k? remember filipinos have da best toyotas..lol..

SLOWLYbtngU
05-08-2008, 06:39 PM
cocky mofo... :screwy:

My dad got me into Yotas...not you homie... :no:

SLOWLYbtngU
05-08-2008, 06:48 PM
In other news...gonna do it to your car while you sleep ...watch...

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o124/fckingliz/hello%20kitty/258553536_6a301eaf2e.jpg

DrAE86Toreno
05-08-2008, 07:08 PM
...i am your dad...ur lucky u cant do awsome smileys..id own u 10x more...hey am i gna see u at formula d?

Tank
05-08-2008, 07:41 PM
I say you drop a 2jz in it and call it a day, j/k, I would go wit the one wit the better aftermarket support, but that's just me
2jz FTW..............sorry i know im not a gecko member but jus wanted to say 20v would be sick good luck in your decision either way :goodjob:

DrAE86Toreno
05-08-2008, 07:55 PM
thanks man....well see what i end up with..

Sport1.3
05-09-2008, 08:20 AM
like i said, Largeport (bluetop)turbo/or GZE turbo first or if you want strong NA power and have some cash go Highcomp 16v (redtop from an AE92). There is a reason all the high powered Japanese guys/Formula Atlantic guys most all go with the 16v head/AE92 bottom end (piston oil squirters)...and its because its proven time and again to make insane power when the right parts are thrown at it and you can get some decent rev's into.

SLOWLYbtngU
05-09-2008, 10:33 AM
...i am your dad...ur lucky u cant do awsome smileys..id own u 10x more...hey am i gna see u at formula d?
You're my dad? Then Why I dont got cheeney chiney eyes??? That would have been a great asset growing up!!! LOSER!

I planned on going to Formula D but I had no one to go with and then it looks like it's going to be rainy... I have a party to go to that night anyways so I couldnt have stayed the whole time cuz it's in ellenwood. total polar opposites :(

Are you going for sure??? If so I might go ahead and go for a bit. It is about 30min north of me.

SLOWLYbtngU
05-09-2008, 12:35 PM
Wait, are you going tonight or tomorrow??

DrAE86Toreno
05-09-2008, 03:41 PM
tomorrow...yo wats in ellenwood!!! theres a chick i met from there fine bebot man..i shud go with u lol :D...

DrAE86Toreno
05-09-2008, 03:42 PM
yeah i wish i had no cash limit but unfortunately i do...still trying to decide...always wanted to run an ITB'd 16V/20V but then i said i was going to build an 86 that was for the street which i think the GZE is calling me out on that. hmm




like i said, Largeport (bluetop)turbo/or GZE turbo first or if you want strong NA power and have some cash go Highcomp 16v (redtop from an AE92). There is a reason all the high powered Japanese guys/Formula Atlantic guys most all go with the 16v head/AE92 bottom end (piston oil squirters)...and its because its proven time and again to make insane power when the right parts are thrown at it and you can get some decent rev's into.

SLOWLYbtngU
05-09-2008, 04:28 PM
tomorrow...yo wats in ellenwood!!! theres a chick i met from there fine bebot man..i shud go with u lol :D...
A friend's bday, that I have to wear red and/or white for... :(

Skillet
05-12-2008, 10:54 AM
B6T

Sport1.3
05-12-2008, 10:56 AM
yeah i wish i had no cash limit but unfortunately i do...still trying to decide...always wanted to run an ITB'd 16V/20V but then i said i was going to build an 86 that was for the street which i think the GZE is calling me out on that. hmm


ITB's get old believe me, while the whine of that supercharger just gets sexier with a nice intake and an upgraded pully :bump:

Sport1.3
05-12-2008, 10:56 AM
B6T


Mazda B6t? :thinking:

DrAE86Toreno
05-13-2008, 03:38 PM
i have heard of people using the miata trans tho for the 86...since the gear ratios were much better for the 4age motor...theres some guys doing r&d right now to make some kind of mount to put the trans and motor together...shud b interesting.