With ALL DUE RESPECT...

[Kevykev]

Which automaker do you NEVER see yourself owning as a primary vehicle. By Never i mean "The Chances of ownership are slim to none" - and by Primary vehicle, I mean the car that you own and honor.

My TOP PICK: Hyundai

Explanation:

I respect them because as an automaker, they managed to break into the hardest possible business (Automobile Manufacturing) while making a decent name for themselves. They provide relatively reliable transportation for a relatively low price.

Although they've managed do this, i could never take pride in owning one since most of their styling appears to be derived from other styling departments and they simply come off as "generic."


p.s
Yeah Chevy is spelled wrong and I combined/seperated some - sue me.

Use OTHER for FORD (not sure how i left them out?) :thinking:

[TS240]

A Kia, like you said about a Hyundai they just seem to generic.

[Nemesis]

I probably will never own a Honda. I love Imports, have had Nissan and Subaru before. I have had new Civic rentals, have driven other Hondas in the past including an S2k, and never really fell in love with them. Im sure they are good cars, but not something I would ever own.

[DieselNuts]

lol, i just noticed you left out ford. That is my primary right now so it doesnt matter...

[Kevykev]

^ not sure how, i had for in my mind while constructing the list.

[JITB]

id say vW..but thats still an iffy decision..

yall missin out on the kia/hyundais that 10yr warranty -100k warranty is great!

[OneSlow5pt0]

ford

[Ran]

I'd sooner own a Hyundai or Kia than I would a Chrysler or Saab.

[BKgen®]

GM, hands down (mainly Chevrolet -- i wouldn't mind owning a Cadillac). After all the b*tching, moaning, and complaining i've heard from family members about quality, i've decided to spare myself the headache.

btw, i forsee many ignorant sumbishes posting bs in this thread..... :ninja:

[cartune]

Dont want to own any american car. il stick with japanese cars, hyundai 2nd option

[_Christian_]

Hyundai, Kia, Saturn. All the other brands, whether i like them as a whole or not, have made at least one car that I would drive.

[blackboi50]

I'd sooner own a Hyundai or Kia than I would a Chrysler or Saab.

u damn asian!!!! :rant:.......1

[OneSlow5pt0]

yea,i have a hard time picking one,cause thier is almost one car in every brand id drive..

[Kamikaze]

Kia, Honda (excluding S2K and NSX), Chrysler (excluding Challenger and Viper), Ford Brand (including Lincoln/Mercury) (excluding F-series & Expedition, GT, and Mustang)

[Deke]

Awww, someone voted Subaru. Now I'm all butt hurt.

[ShooterMcGavin]

kia and suzuki for sure.

[Ran]

suzuki for sure.I'd agree if it weren't for the Swift. New Swifts are hot.

[Nemesis]

Kia, Honda (excluding S2K and NSX), Chrysler (excluding Challenger and Viper), Ford Brand (including Lincoln/Mercury) (excluding F-series & Expedition, GT, and Mustang)

So basically anything that makes power :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[ShooterMcGavin]

I'd agree if it weren't for the Swift. New Swifts are hot.
oh my puke-in-my-mouth :upchuck:

[ShooterMcGavin]

^^^yeah what he said :goodjob:

[ShooterMcGavin]

ray charles just called from the grave, said the swift is the ugliest pos he's never seen :yes:

[ShooterMcGavin]

^^^troo story, i was there

[Ran]

The Suzuki Swift MK4 (2004+) actually looks pretty decent. A lot better than the recent Scion models we get here stateside.

[MistaCee]

Can't pick more than one?

edit: oh yea you can :doh:

[JITB]

The Suzuki Swift MK4 (2004+) actually looks pretty decent. A lot better than the recent Scion models we get here stateside.

the swift is pretty nice looking..

[Nissan Sean]

i chose saab, i voted on the basis of cars i doubt ill ever have.and saab seems like the most likely. there many brands there i dont like, but who the hell drives a saab and why would they want to. idk how saab survives.i never see one and they look like crap rip-off of volvo. lol saab ftl!!!!!!!!!!



oh and nissan got ZERO votes. Nissan FTMFGDW!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kevykev]

i chose saab, i voted on the basis of cars i doubt ill ever have.and saab seems like the most likely. there many brands there i dont like, but who the hell drives a saab and why would they want to. idk how saab survives.i never see one and they look like crap rip-off of volvo. lol saab ftl!!!!!!!!!!



oh and nissan got ZERO votes. Nissan FTMFGDW!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOLOL @ that acronym phrase!


I think you may have jinxed us - BUT FOR THE PERSON WHO VOTES FOR NISSAN, YOU WILL BE GOTTEN AT NAH MEEEAN>>> :2up:

[VooDooXII]

Basically...almost anything Japanese or Korean.

Boring stuff to me.

[bandydesign]

My reasoning:

Chrysler- too boring
Dodge- nothing better than other auotmakers
Kia- no expanation necessary
Lincoln- mercedes or lincoln?:thinking: ...thats easy
Mitsubishi- Evos are cool, but these guys need to learn that people are INSIDE these cars! I mean dam!
Saab- I don't see me ever caring to own one
Saturn- I have no respect for this company, and no reasoning to justify it
Volvo- same as SAAB


Now, I will say that I don't see myself being ABLE to go WITHOUT a Nissan one of these days. That is not where my brand loyalty lies, but there are too many Nissans/Datsuns that I can't live without. I can gaurantee that I will own a Nissan/Datsun/Infiniti.

[GIXXERDK]

Which automaker do you NEVER see yourself owning as a primary vehicle. By Never i mean "The Chances of ownership are slim to none" - and by Primary vehicle, I mean the car that you own and honor.

My TOP PICK: Hyundai

Explanation:

I respect them because as an automaker, they managed to break into the hardest possible business (Automobile Manufacturing) while making a decent name for themselves. They provide relatively reliable transportation for a relatively low price.

Although they've managed do this, i could never take pride in owning one since most of their styling appears to be derived from other styling departments and they simply come off as "generic."


p.s
Yeah Chevy is spelled wrong and I combined/seperated some - sue me.

Use OTHER for FORD (not sure how i left them out?) :thinking:

There not the only ones. Just about anything you own will be derived from other products. Look at how many look a likes came out after the Razr. Its all about marketing.

[Kevykev]

There not the only ones. Just about anything you own will be derived from other products. Look at how many look a likes came out after the Razr. Its all about marketing.

No doubt about it, however, it seems like that particular automaker lacks substance of their own.

It is standard practice to "borrow" styling cues from a fellow automaker but at least pioneer your own design from time to time you know?

The was a Kia Sorento that imitated the BMW look, It was mainly this design that Killed it for me man (Wannabe BMW Kidney Grill Status)

I understand that they have to do what they have to do to compete but it just happens to annoy people.

[redrumracer]

deff will never own a honda and glad to see im not the only one

[SouthSide Tay]

hell f u c k the dumbshiit i would buy the hell outta of a kia suv of course with a LIFETIME warranty form, some dealers as a DD there is noway you can beat the price and reliability

[blackshine007]

i chose saab, i voted on the basis of cars i doubt ill ever have.and saab seems like the most likely. there many brands there i dont like, but who the hell drives a saab and why would they want to. idk how saab survives.i never see one and they look like crap rip-off of volvo. lol saab ftl!!!!!!!!!!
I think the Saab Turbo X would change your mind... 280 hp XWD (AWD in Saab speak) 2.8L V6 turbo with either a 6 speed manual or 6 speed auto
http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_reports/saab-turbo-x.htm

[man]

Probably the most interesting of my choices, Lexus and Toyota. They make good cars and all, but I'm not a fan of the styling or the choices they make for certain aspects of their cars (transmission options, power plants, etc.)

[Thighs]

i dont think i would ever own a nissan.

[TheProfiteer]

I dont see why you guys are hating on Saabs and Volvos, I probably would never own one, but Saab makes some damn quick cars, not to mention, almost all of their cars are stock turbo.

[OneSlow5pt0]

i love both saab and volvo

but i guess i could see why people dont like them,i really dont like nissan either aside from 300zx and 280zx

[Barefoot]

kia all day. ill never drive 1 own 1 or ride in 1.

[Kevykev]

kia all day. ill never drive 1 own 1 or ride in 1.

WOOOWWWWWW That's BIG


You won't even be seen in one????


p.s

Shouldn't you have voted for honda?

[Barefoot]

WOOOWWWWWW That's BIG


You won't even be seen in one????


p.s

Shouldn't you have voted for honda?
na i said it right ill never ever mess with a kia. i will on the other hand play with honda.

[Kevykev]

i guess i mis read your username then, LOL to that!

[Terror]

guys.. seriously with no intent to get flamed.. a kia before a honda? hondas arent that bad.. not saying that just cause i have owned them in the past. They are reliable as F and that is the truth! kia and hyundai are seriously jacked up. they need a 100k mile warranty for a reason.

[Arm&hammer]

i could never own a saturn. i just do not like them at all. no offense to saturn owners

[Barefoot]

guys.. seriously with no intent to get flamed.. a kia before a honda? hondas arent that bad.. not saying that just cause i have owned them in the past. They are reliable as F and that is the truth! kia and hyundai are seriously jacked up. they need a 100k mile warranty for a reason.REPPED

[KPowerEP3]

guys.. seriously with no intent to get flamed.. a kia before a honda? hondas arent that bad.. not saying that just cause i have owned them in the past. They are reliable as F and that is the truth! kia and hyundai are seriously jacked up. they need a 100k mile warranty for a reason.


That's the most ass backward logic I've ever seen. So, you think Kia and Hyundai WANT to pay for you to get you crap fixed? Try again. Trying to get warranty work done on most cars is like asking to get kicked in the nuts by a Brazilian goalkeeper - you'll get what you want, but it's gonna hurt. I don't particularly care for either brand, hell, most of the time I forget they both exist, but don't go knocking a product just because they offer a good warranty. It shows a lack of common sense.

[Romeo]

am i the only one here who caught that chevrolet was spelled wrong??haha.

[FasTech]

am i the only one here who caught that chevrolet was spelled wrong??haha.

Good one Joe...... Too bad quickdodge wasn't here, he would have caught it.lol

[greasemunkey]

who the hell voted never to porsche, subaru, and bmw??? shame on you people. ever heard of the carrera, sti, m5???

[Kevykev]

am i the only one here who caught that chevrolet was spelled wrong??haha.


I noted it in the post. HA

NO Credit!

[Kevykev]

I just noticed a culprit, you know who you are Mr. "I only like 1 Brand and nuffin' else" Mofo!

[man]

I just noticed a culprit, you know who you are Mr. "I only like 1 Brand and nuffin' else" Mofo!

Hehe, i noticed that also...

[admedlin]

KIA

i drove one before, will never make that mistake again!

[OneDurtyZ]

Ford, Chrsyler, GM-for never coming up with any new ideas in 40 years. For also claiming 'remarkable advances' in technology that ever other car has had in teh past 10-20 years (see the malibu commerical that claims Chevys 'remarkable' discovery of Varavible valve control for fuel economy). That also included their other brands.
Kia- almost as bad as the tard three, i'd sooner flush my money down the septic tank than spend it on any of there junkboxes
VW-...i just cant give money to hitlers car...i cant..but i think its the electrical problems that i really have a problem with

[JITB]

guys.. seriously with no intent to get flamed.. a kia before a honda? hondas arent that bad.. not saying that just cause i have owned them in the past. They are reliable as F and that is the truth! kia and hyundai are seriously jacked up. they need a 100k mile warranty for a reason.


booo for good warranties!!! dummy

i guess u think chryslers lifetime powertrain warranty was because they made ****ty parts and woudl like to fix it for ever..

[Demsum]

I say Volvo, because I will never be an older white female. I almost said saturn, but I respect the sky redline.

[Clegger]

PT cruiser, Seabring, and most anything that this company puts out is complete and total @$$

[Kevykev]

Ford, Chrsyler, GM-for never coming up with any new ideas in 40 years. For also claiming 'remarkable advances' in technology that ever other car has had in teh past 10-20 years (see the malibu commerical that claims Chevys 'remarkable' discovery of Varavible valve control for fuel economy). That also included their other brands.
Kia- almost as bad as the tard three, i'd sooner flush my money down the septic tank than spend it on any of there junkboxes
VW-...i just cant give money to hitlers car...i cant..but i think its the electrical problems that i really have a problem with


:lmfao: expressive!

[Terror]

That's the most ass backward logic I've ever seen. So, you think Kia and Hyundai WANT to pay for you to get you crap fixed? Try again. Trying to get warranty work done on most cars is like asking to get kicked in the nuts by a Brazilian goalkeeper - you'll get what you want, but it's gonna hurt. I don't particularly care for either brand, hell, most of the time I forget they both exist, but don't go knocking a product just because they offer a good warranty. It shows a lack of common sense.

yes i do think they sell it because they need it. i worked at a mazda/kia dealership in the past as a service advisor. thank you. reguardless of your logic it is offered because it is needed. i dont know if they recently got there **** together to have the confidence to offer it. But a few years ago they were PEICES OF **** and that is a FACT. now tell me why you dont really see anyone else with such a warranty?

[Terror]

booo for good warranties!!! dummy

i guess u think chryslers lifetime powertrain warranty was because they made ****ty parts and woudl like to fix it for ever..


dude do some research. like i said earlier... warranties are offered where needed. thanks.

Im sure they dont want to, or enjoy having to pay for warranty work. but im sure they know that to sell automobiles in the future, due to the past reputation they have developed for themselves as "unreliable". they needed to offer some peace of mind.

[Khalifa247]

booo for good warranties!!! dummy

i guess u think chryslers lifetime powertrain warranty was because they made ****ty parts and woudl like to fix it for ever..

Im pretty sure hes saying they are piece of **** cracker jack cars dude.. there is kia's that go for like 8 grand brand new, they offer the 100k mile warranty be cause the quality of the parts is low, and thats how they keep the price low. Is that difficult to understand?

You could buy a USED honda for 8 grand, hell you could buy one for like 5 with 120k miles on it put another hundred on it and still have a good running car..

oh and most chryslers like the dodge ram, the srt-4 the neon and the pt cruiser experience a tranny issue in their lifetimes therefore they offer a decent waranty im pretty sure the lifetime was a recent one but whatever, chrysler owns and has one of the highest stock values lol.. if not the highest.

not trying to be a **** but apparently it needed explaining to people

back on topic, I wouldnt drive anything produced by gm excluding the corvette, I just dont like them. they also own kia so i guess that covers it..

[OneDurtyZ]

:lmfao: expressive!

lol i have my moments

looks like Kia and GM...FTMFL

[JITB]

dude do some research. like i said earlier... warranties are offered where needed. thanks.

Im sure they dont want to, or enjoy having to pay for warranty work. but im sure they know that to sell automobiles in the future, due to the past reputation they have developed for themselves as "unreliable". they needed to offer some peace of mind.


lol if u say so..... that whole paragraph makes no sense. its like your arguing with yourself..... i dont know how to respond... :lmfao:

the consensus by everyone is that the US makes ****ty cars.....it will never change.. but the automakers that people hate so much... sell the most cars worldwide.

[Terror]

[QUOTE=JITB]lol if u say so..... that whole paragraph makes no sense. its like your arguing with yourself..... i dont know how to respond... :lmfao:

the consensus by everyone is that the US makes ****ty cars.....it will never change.. but the automakers that people hate so much... sell the most cars worldwide.[/QUOTE


if you think kia has better quality vehicles then the US "oh so terrible" cars, you are retarded. Its apparent you are a very ignorant person. and isnt that an escort in your sig? GTFO. that is all.

[JITB]

who said anything about kia? And again you are making no sense.... and what does my car have anything to do with anything? You dont respond with any factual information you are just retorting to senseless jabber. i drive a escort..whats the problem?

[Terror]

who said anything about kia? And again you are making no sense.... and what does my car have anything to do with anything? You dont respond with any factual information you are just retorting to senseless jabber. i drive a escort..whats the problem?

I make perfect sense if you could comprehend basic english, so let me break it down for you.

hyundai and kia are the same manufacturer. these were the cars we were talking about in case you didnt remember.

you knock on american made cars with no knowledge of wtf you are talking about.

you drive and escort which you seem to take pride in because it is in your sig, which is in fact a FORD which is AMERICAN.

[JITB]

I make perfect sense if you could comprehend basic english, so let me break it down for you.

hyundai and kia are the same manufacturer. these were the cars we were talking about in case you didnt remember.

you knock on american made cars with no knowledge of wtf you are talking about.

you drive and escort which you seem to take pride in because it is in your sig, which is in fact a FORD which is AMERICAN.

lol when did i knock on american cars? my escort isnt a full blooded american car.

[Terror]

"the consensus by everyone is that the US makes ****ty cars.....it will never change.."

an escort is an escort unless its a cosworth escort.

[JITB]

"the consensus by everyone is that the US makes ****ty cars.....it will never change.."

an escort is an escort unless its a cosworth escort.


ur telling me about comprehension.... i still dont understand why u are bringing my car into this equation?

so a escort cosoworth isnt a escort...lol oh i get it now.. :lmfao:

[Terror]

[QUOTE=JITB]ur telling me about comprehension.... i still dont understand why u are bringing my car into this equation?

so a escort cosoworth isnt a escort...lol oh i get it now.. :lmfao:[/QUOTE

no you **** rag. cosworth the company. look it up.

[Terror]

but while we are on the subject, what makes your escort so non full blooded?

[blackshine007]

but while we are on the subject, what makes your escort so non full blooded?
His car is basicly a Mazda 323 with a ford badge. That's why it's not a full blooded american car.

[Terror]

thank you.

[JITB]

[QUOTE=JITB]ur telling me about comprehension.... i still dont understand why u are bringing my car into this equation?

so a escort cosoworth isnt a escort...lol oh i get it now.. :lmfao:[/QUOTE

no you **** rag. cosworth the company. look it up.


Your telling me about cosworth? Cosworth dont make escorts smart guy. escorts are all ford in and out, but during my years the gt's they were powered by mazda.

[Kevykev]

^ lol at him actually saying "thank you" with no further comments.

[blackshine007]

And while we are on the subject of JITB's car, there's a big difference between the American Escort and the European Escort. The American Escort was found around the world with 2 different names, Escort (in North America) and Laser (everywhere else). The european Escort was built specificly for europe, engines and all. And the Escort Cosworth is only related to the Ecort by chassis only. Hell, it's engine sits north/south vs east/west for the others. It was a purpose built car. basicly a one-off project that sold in limited numbers.

[Terror]

[QUOTE=untitled_001]


Your telling me about cosworth? Cosworth dont make escorts smart guy. escorts are all ford in and out, but during my years the gt's they were powered by mazda.

cosworth has built a few race escorts over in europe thats what i was reffering to.

[superboost]

my choice:

Honda

Too many damn people own them already. I like to be different. Not necessarily different for the sake of being different, but I just don't like them.

[VooDooXII]

my choice:

Honda

Too many damn people own them already. I like to be different. Not necessarily different for the sake of being different, but I just don't like them.

Volvo's an excellent choice for the unconventional :goodjob:

[takume]

damn, how come Hyundai is far better than Kia? Anyway I voted for chevy.

[Kevykev]

^ Tib maybe

[Logan]

kia.

They hae nothing appealing.

Unless you count that jaguar wannabe.

[Nissan Sean]

well when i voted saab, it was because there no way in hell i would ever own one. they dont make bad cars, just boring ones. yeah there all tubo'd. woohoo. that just means more parts to fix, and turbos and turbo seals to replace. lol Saab. "made from jets" lol bull****, made by boring people for boring people.

[Kevykev]

kia.

They hae nothing appealing.

Unless you count that jaguar wannabe.

KIA AMANTI


The interior is sick, i was shocked - but it's a kia so :(

[Reaper]

Hyundai
Kia
Mercades

Here's why....

Hyundai...just isn't attractive, too cheaply built and fwd ftl.

Kia...its a kia enough said..


Mercades...okay...they are nice overall...But are HANDS DOWN the most over-priced cheaply built machines on the face of the earth. They break every other time you drive it, its $200 for an oil change, and $2000 for a catalytic converter...I mean COME ON! They have SOME clean rides but once again are so expensive that even if you actually can afford one, you never drive it cuz you know when you service it, its going to cost you $5000...


I used to be a hardcore lexus guy(hence why I hate mercades), but I'm now REALLY into BMW, Porsche, Audi...Some can say the same about these other companies, but I've never seen more issues with a car and cost an arm and a leg, than a Benz

[Kevykev]

Hyundai
Kia
Mercades

Here's why....

Hyundai...just isn't attractive, too cheaply built and fwd ftl.

Kia...its a kia enough said..


Mercades...okay...they are nice overall...But are HANDS DOWN the most over-priced cheaply built machines on the face of the earth. They break every other time you drive it, its $200 for an oil change, and $2000 for a catalytic converter...I mean COME ON! They have SOME clean rides but once again are so expensive that even if you actually can afford one, you never drive it cuz you know when you service it, its going to cost you $5000...


I used to be a hardcore lexus guy(hence why I hate mercades), but I'm now REALLY into BMW, Porsche, Audi...Some can say the same about these other companies, but I've never seen more issues with a car and cost an arm and a leg, than a Benz

you covered yor bases with that last statement.

Good write-up.

[MSRTom]

I voted Saab. The newer ones seem to be alright. But like every journalist says "quirky."

I'm not going to put it in reverse every time I want to take the key out.

The older ones look like shoes.

In Hyundai's defense, their quality has really improved in the past few years. I had an 07 Sonata when I went out of town on business and I was really impressed with how comfortable it was. The V6 definitely has enough power to get out of its own way. I would drive a Hyundai everyday.

But not an Accent, because they look like jelly beans.

[Kevykev]

In Hyundai's defense, their quality has really improved in the past few years. I had an 07 Sonata when I went out of town on business and I was really impressed with how comfortable it was.


I used to work @ Enterprise, I can attest to that!

[Got Milk?]

Kia, omg them things are slow. 0-60 in like zzzzzz years.

[90_ACCORD]

well i said Saab
i just dont c the point in ever getting one
i havnt seen a Saab i like yet

[cactusEG]

Any american made cars. I hear ppl bitcching about the qulity of the car all the time. Plus there ugly !

[gforce23]

Any american made cars. I hear ppl bitcching about the qulity of the car all the time. Plus there ugly !
There's a distinction. Do you mean cars made by American companies (Cerberus, GM, Ford) or cars made in the US (most Hondas/Nissans and what not, including the probable place of manufacture of your EG).

[JITB]

There's a distinction. Do you mean cars made by American companies (Cerberus, GM, Ford) or cars made in the US (most Hondas/Nissans and what not, including the probable place of manufacture of your EG).


troof

[cactusEG]

There's a distinction. Do you mean cars made by American companies (Cerberus, GM, Ford) or cars made in the US (most Hondas/Nissans and what not, including the probable place of manufacture of your EG).

:goodjob: ,,

[True Pyroman]

I just couldnt see myself driving a kia. I have not seen one I like, and apparently they are not that reliable, even with that warranty.

[Kevykev]

Saw an 07 or 08 Sonata on the Highway, looked pretty solid.

I drove the V6 version suring my rental days, I was impressed at the engine's responsiveness :D

[mwilson]

daewoo...

[JITB]

daewoo...


find a daewoo dealership first!

[AnthonyF]

Saab and Volvo are just sh*t. Pieces of junk with stupid over engineering aspects.

-Ant.

[superboost]

I voted honda. Ugh, can't stand them. Too many idiots own them, and none of the cars (s2000 not withstanding) they make are appealing to me. All fwd econoboxes that lack soul or character and hardly any factory options for forced induction.

Ick

[Kevykev]

I voted honda. Ugh, can't stand them. Too many idiots own them.

Ick


That did it for most honda haters.

[EJ25RUN]

when china rears its ugly head over hear, the idea of driving for pleasure will be over. They don't know what soul or pleasure is. They just see cars as disposal goods.

http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/odds_and_ends/2007/6/3/brill_crash01.jpg

[Blitanicle99]

Probably a Honda. Or any other foreign piece of junk..

Sorry, but Chevy makes a damn good vehicle. Corvette ZR1 is ridiculous. You can't get a better car for your money. Their gas trucks, run forEVER. I beat the living crap out of mine every day. The Chevrolet 350 is the most common motor out there and the cheapest to rebuild. Chevrolet Leads The Way

Only other company that pulls that off is Toyota. Their little motors are indestructible. And last forever.

[BKgen®]

Bunch of ignorant sumbishes in this thread... but I guess it was to be expected.




hyundai and kia are the same manufacturer.

Wrong. Kia is owned by Hyundai.



Hyundai...too cheaply built

Wrong. Maybe if it was still 1995 I would agree with you...





and fwd ftl.


surprise.

http://premium1.uploadit.org/brandonp47//gen038.jpg

[EJ25RUN]

Bunch of ignorant sumbishes in this thread... but I guess it was to be expected.

Wrong. Kia is owned by Hyundai.

Wrong. Maybe if it was still 1995 I would agree with you...

surprise.

http://premium1.uploadit.org/brandonp47//gen038.jpg

I applauded you fight for Korean cars but it is really up to them to make and impact. When i was selling cars a while back, we did have have a bunch of customers who arn't car people but for their needs and though their research, they new for the average person, Korean cars have caught up.

But on the side we sit, "enthusiast side", Korea is behind the ball. Me personally, i have never liked the Tiburon, this new Genesis, i have to drive it till i make opinions on it. So far it has good things going for it like the styling but we will see what happens when its out.

[GTScoob]

I could never see myself driving a Toyota, Mitsubishi, Buick, Benz, Kia, or Hyundai.

[thepolecat]

other for Ford- my wife has one but I cant wait to rid myself of it.

[drmz2realiti]

Other-Ford what more can i say

[Terror]

[QUOTE=GKtib®]Bunch of ignorant sumbishes in this thread... but I guess it was to be expected.





Wrong. Kia is owned by Hyundai.




dude dont be a retard they manufacture cars in the same factory.

and as for the genesis.. thus far the car seems pretty cool, good power and brembo brakes and whatnot.. but would you seriously buy the first attempt from them at a rwd sports car? and for what they want for it? thats imo something i wouldnt do. if you look at most 1st year production cars even from companies that have built like cars in the past. you will know that often times they have lots of bugs. and most of the improvements come later on in future generations. and not to mention i read in motor trend they were aiming that car to compete with the new G37.. go home hyundai. my :2cents: to the "Genesis fan club"

btw how do you like your under 180 hp v6? :lmfao: hyundai was a real winner with that one!

[OTG Signs]

I'd never buy a GM newer than ~1968.

[01SpectraGSX]

I would never own a Mercedes. I would and have driven a Kia before ANY Mercedes.

[BKgen®]

btw how do you like your under 180 hp v6? :lmfao: hyundai was a real winner with that one!

i like it as much as you like your 240 hp / 150 tq honda :lmao:


:D

[Terror]

i like it as much as you like your 240 hp / 150 tq honda :lmao:


:D

owned by the torquelessness..... :( lol

[1MP0RTL0V3R]

If i had 2 choose it would have be Ford because i love the 2008 F-350 King Ranch... My uncle had one before and it was real nice and thats the main Ford I like. But I really like Honda's 2

[1SICKLEX]

If you are a Honda/Acura fan, you cannot clown Hyundai. Hyundai has now done what Acura still can't do .
1-Make a RWD sedan
2-Make one with a V-8
3-Make a car with a 6 speed Auto.

The Genesis solidifies Hyundai as the real deal and makes Acura seem laughable since HYUNDAI has now passed them in those 3 MAJOR respects.

A loaded Genesis has RWD, a 6 speed auto and 380 or so HP. The flagship Acura is the RL which sells like crap, has 290hp, a 5 speed auto and SH-AWD but with 70/30 FWD bias.

[dabuilding]

lincoln doesnt appeal to me at all
and y did u put chevy and gm(all) chevy is in the gm family

[Kevykev]

If you are a Honda/Acura fan, you cannot clown Hyundai. Hyundai has now done what Acura still can't do .
1-Make a RWD sedan
2-Make one with a V-8
3-Make a car with a 6 speed Auto.

The Genesis solidifies Hyundai as the real deal and makes Acura seem laughable since HYUNDAI has now passed them in those 3 MAJOR respects.

A loaded Genesis has RWD, a 6 speed auto and 380 or so HP. The flagship Acura is the RL which sells like crap, has 290hp, a 5 speed auto and SH-AWD but with 70/30 FWD bias.


I just saw one for the first time the other day.

LOOKS GREAT!

[LightningSpeed]

ford, chevy, pontiak, buick, lincoln, gmc, saturn, geo. Anything but american POS. THANK YOU

[JITB]

ford, chevy, Pontiac , buick, lincoln, gmc, saturn, geo. Anything but american POS. THANK YOU

*fixed

geo was toyota..

[alpine_aw11]

I'd have to say Kia simply because they don't produce a single car that would be anywhere near the top of my list as far as personal appeal goes. I'm sure they make quality cars now and all, but in every field of what they make there are several choices that make much more sense imo.

[BKgen®]

If you are a Honda/Acura fan, you cannot clown Hyundai. Hyundai has now done what Acura still can't do .
1-Make a RWD sedan
2-Make one with a V-8
3-Make a car with a 6 speed Auto.

The Genesis solidifies Hyundai as the real deal and makes Acura seem laughable since HYUNDAI has now passed them in those 3 MAJOR respects.

A loaded Genesis has RWD, a 6 speed auto and 380 or so HP. The flagship Acura is the RL which sells like crap, has 290hp, a 5 speed auto and SH-AWD but with 70/30 FWD bias.

holy sh*t, someone who isn't ignorant! they do exist!

[Fr33way]

That's some perspective 1Sicklex, a RWD 3rd gen TL would have had me out of my seat (and stolen a LOT of G sales).

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to 1SICKLEX again.

[1SICKLEX]

Thank you.

Amazingly, the new Kia Borrengo has a V-8 as well and is very competative. The Koreans are SERIOUS. Here are new OFFICIAL pics of the GEnesis coupe.

IMO, the new Genesis coupe > Altima/Accord/G6/Solara coupes. It has RWD, a turbo 4 or a big V-6 and optional LSD and Brembo Brakes.


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3293/2695743741_b1f7c2ba89_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3029/2696559322_893c5af2b2_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3135/2695743721_22a0d3a24c_o.jpg


http://careview.chosun.com/site/data/img_dir/2008/08/05/2008080500688_1.jpg

http://careview.chosun.com/site/data/img_dir/2008/08/05/2008080500688_2.jpg

[1SICKLEX]

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0723/10.hyundai.genesis.cpe.eng.1.500.jpg
Engineers from Garrett and Synapse Engineering take a long, hard look at the plumbing in the turbocharged 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0723/10.hyundai.genesis.cpe.f34.500.jpg
This yellow V6 Genesis coupe is a T2 prototype, meaning one step before preproduction. It's being measured for a car cover by reps from Coverking.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0723/10.hyundai.genesis.cpe.r34.500.jpg
Techs from Wet Okole Hawaii are taking measurements for waterproof seat covers they're designing for the Genesis.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0723/10.hyundai.genesis.cpe.int.500.jpg
This is the final interior treatment for the Track models. The seats feature red cloth and black leather.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0723/10.hyundai.genesis.cpe.whl.500.jpg
Hyundai is proud of these gunmetal-finish 19-inch wheels, which will be standard on the Track.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0723/10.hyundai.genesis.cpe.eng.2.500.jpg
The strut tower brace identifies this four-cylinder turbo coupe as the Track version.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0723/10.hyundai.genesis.cpe.eng.3.500.jpg
Understandably, the V6 takes up a lot more room in the engine bay, leaving less room for modifications.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0723/10.hyundai.genesis.cpe.f34.2.500.jpg
Tuners took extensive photos of the turbocharged Genesis coupe during the measuring session.


FOUNTAIN VALLEY, California — Hyundai took a major step toward reinventing itself as a legitimate performance-car manufacturer by inviting 20 aftermarket companies to measure the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe today at its North American headquarters in Fountain Valley, California.

Hyundai Motor America officials called this the official SEMA measuring session for the company's rear-drive coupe, which is based on the shortened version of the 2009 Hyundai Genesis Sedan platform.

"Normally, we've done this closer to the start of production," Wayne Killen, director of strategic product planning for Hyundai Motor America, told us. "But we really wanted the aftermarket companies to get a start on it."

The aftermarket companies ran the gamut, ranging from Wet Okole Hawaii, which makes waterproof seat covers, to Garrett-Honeywell and HKS.

You'll recall from the 2008 New York Auto Show that Hyundai will be offering both a 310-horsepower 3.8-liter V6 and a 223-hp, 2.0-liter, turbocharged, inline four-cylinder in the 2010 Genesis Coupe. Not surprisingly, the 2.0-liter turbo got most of the attention from the tuners, and since the engine itself is a direct relation of the 2.0-liter in the Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart and Evolution X, most weren't seeing it for the first time.

"I'm more excited about this than I am about that one," said John Espino of Gale Banks Engineering, while standing next to the turbo coupe. "If you look under the hood, there's more room to do stuff." However, he noted that his company is working on a supercharger for the V6 Genesis coupe, in addition to planned upgrades for the turbocharger and intercooler on the four-cylinder model.

"There's an engine mount underneath the turbocharger so that kind of limits how big you can go," Garrett's Brian Regnier told us. "But there's always a way around that." He said the main contingency for Garrett in developing turbo upgrades for the Genesis coupe is public reaction to Hyundai's first rear-wheel-drive coupe. "We'll wait to see what the reception for this vehicle is at track days," he noted.

Hyundai officials also confirmed today that the company will offer Track versions of both the four-cylinder turbo and the V6 coupe. "They'll be a low percentage of the mix," Joyce admitted, "but they will be uncompromised in their performance."

In addition to retuned suspension compared to the standard versions of the coupe, the Genesis Track models will pick up a front strut tower brace and a full set of Brembo brakes, including four-piston monobloc calipers up front.

Regardless of the engine underhood, Track models will come with Bridgestone Potenza RE050A summer tires, sized 225/40R19 up front and 245/40R19 in back. Non-Track Genesis coupes get 225/45R18 Bridgestone Potenza RE092As in front and 245/45s in back.

Hyundai also revealed some basic stats on the likely customer base today. The four-cylinder turbo coupe is predicted to draw an even mix of men and women, while the company anticipates an older, more affluent and 70 percent male crowd to embrace the V6 coupe. The highest-volume exterior color is expected to be Gray Titanium at 18 percent.

Known internally as "BK," the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe will go into production in December 2008 at Hyundai's Alsan, Korea, plant. Look for the cars to arrive at dealerships in early February 2009.

What this means to you: Hyundai hopes the 2010 Genesis Coupe will pick up where the Nissan 240SX left off, and is doing everything it can to ensure full aftermarket support when the coupe goes on sale. — Erin Riches, Senior Editor

Source: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=129812#2

[alpine_aw11]

^^^Genesis ftw. G and Z killah son.

[taotsu]

being that i've owned a ford, chevy, chrysler, bmw, honda, nissan, and toyota and have driven lexus, audi, mercedes, hummer, and buick, i'll stick with toyota and lexus. damn, i miss my supras. oh well, when i come back to the states, i'll have a GTR with me, so that'll make up for it. :D

[mightyone]

Haha, YOU ARE CRAZY.


I probably will never own a Honda. I love Imports, have had Nissan and Subaru before. I have had new Civic rentals, have driven other Hondas in the past including an S2k, and never really fell in love with them. Im sure they are good cars, but not something I would ever own.

[SiLkY_JohnSon]

Lol, at Kia