House Bill 89

[Lizbiz101]

So I'm sitting at my internship and there's all this buzz going around about this Bill 89. If passed persons who are licensed to own a firearm will be able to carry them in public places, parks, and resturants. A lot of people want Perdue to veto this bill.....what do you think???

[KPowerEP3]

I think it's absolutely ridiculous for him to veto the bill, hell, it's also stupid for everyone to be lobbying against it, and anyone who thinks otherwise needs to be educated.

We can already carry in the majority of the places you eat regularly and it's perfectly legal. The restaurant change has to do with establishments that serve alcohol, and we would/will only be able to carry in restaurants that generate more than 51% of their income from food sales.

Marta, well, GA is one of VERY few states that don't allow carry on public transportation. As far as parks, it's only state parks. We can already carry in local parks, as it's illegal for a county or municipality to initiate any form of gun control beyond that of the state Constitution, it's a legal term known as preemption, and though several places do it, many have been sued over this and lost.

What most people fail to realize about GA's draconian gun laws is that they're NOT derived from safety standpoint. They date back to the era of the Jim Crow laws which were laws enforced to help control blacks in the post Civil War era.

Also, anyone who plans to use a firearm illegally doesn't give a damn whether they're allowed to have it or not, they're just going to have it. We go through hell, and lots of buearocracy and red tape just to be able to LEGALLY protect ourselves, our families, and others in the event of someone posing a serious threat to them, why limit where we can do so?

[.::UNKNOWN::.]

I think it's absolutely ridiculous for him to veto the bill, hell, it's also stupid for everyone to be lobbying against it, and anyone who thinks otherwise needs to be educated.

We can already carry in the majority of the places you eat regularly and it's perfectly legal. The restaurant change has to do with establishments that serve alcohol, and we would/will only be able to carry in restaurants that generate more than 51% of their income from food sales.

Marta, well, GA is one of VERY few states that don't allow carry on public transportation. As far as parks, it's only state parks. We can already carry in local parks, as it's illegal for a county or municipality to initiate any form of gun control beyond that of the state Constitution, it's a legal term known as preemption, and though several places do it, many have been sued over this and lost.

What most people fail to realize about GA's draconian gun laws is that they're NOT derived from safety standpoint. They date back to the era of the Jim Crow laws which were laws enforced to help control blacks in the post Civil War era.

Also, anyone who plans to use a firearm illegally doesn't give a damn whether they're allowed to have it or not, they're just going to have it. We go through hell, and lots of buearocracy and red tape just to be able to LEGALLY protect ourselves, our families, and others in the event of someone posing a serious threat to them, why limit where we can do so? agreed +1

[Lizbiz101]

All I have to say is.....if this bill gets passed the crime rate will increase like crazy. If people can walk around in stores and junk with "legal" guns....there will be twice as many people walking around with illegal guns. We will look back and laugh at today's crime rate. I have yet to see the positives about it....but to each his own.

[ironchef]

All I have to say is.....if this bill gets passed the crime rate will increase like crazy. If people can walk around in stores and junk with "legal" guns....there will be twice as many people walking around with illegal guns. We will look back and laugh at today's crime rate. I have yet to see the positives about it....but to each his own.Do you have any kind of evidence that could support your outrageous claim?

[JConner]

All I have to say is.....if this bill gets passed the crime rate will increase like crazy. If people can walk around in stores and junk with "legal" guns....there will be twice as many people walking around with illegal guns. We will look back and laugh at today's crime rate. I have yet to see the positives about it....but to each his own.

you are crazy. If people are allowed to walk around with LEGAL guns the crime rate will DROP no increase. This has been proven, a prime example is with Washington DC's total gun ban. Crime increased 10x after the criminals knew that no responsible citizen would be carrying a gun to defend themself anymore

[JConner]

oh and in response to lizbiz's first post.....Perdue better not veto this bill or you will see an immdiate crime rate increase in atlanta.....as if there is not enough crime.

[.::UNKNOWN::.]

All I have to say is.....if this bill gets passed the crime rate will increase like crazy. If people can walk around in stores and junk with "legal" guns....there will be twice as many people walking around with illegal guns. We will look back and laugh at today's crime rate. I have yet to see the positives about it....but to each his own. alright crime rate will go up bc we will now allow off duty cops carry their personal weapons on them along with a carring permit, the civilians that have went through an extencive background check will be carrying a gun, oh and that girl that got killed in the state park that had a concieled weapons licence would still be alive..... yeah crime rate will go up needless to say i ask this question
































IT WAS AGAINST THE LAW TO HAVE A GUN IN A STATE PARK, WHAT STOPED THAT DIRTY OLD PERVERT FROM CARRYING IT IN AND USING IT TO RAPE AND KILL THAT WOMAN? OR WHAT STOPS A GUY FROM RUNNING INTO A STORE WITH A GUN AND ROBBING IT?:no: sorry about the caps:ninja:

[ShooterMcGavin]

i think this is a repost and that you're delusional based on your "thoughts" on what might happen if the bill passes.

[jR1_kS14]

I say veto. People can go crazy at any moment of any day at any time.

[BanginJimmy]

I say veto. People can go crazy at any moment of any day at any time.

so why not make cars illegal also. We saw what an idiot in a car can do at any time last month on 85.

[GSRteg®]

All I have to say is.....if this bill gets passed the crime rate will increase like crazy. If people can walk around in stores and junk with "legal" guns....there will be twice as many people walking around with illegal guns. We will look back and laugh at today's crime rate. I have yet to see the positives about it....but to each his own.

Hmmmm why would the crime rate go up... more than likely it would go down having protection form the criminals. Ask any realy criminal who they are afraid of the police or a civilian? Ill answer this as you know what a police man carries, but do you know what a civilian has on him...? This will make the criminal's think twice about attacking. BTW people are already walking around with them in stores wiith CCW permits as protection of the criminals having illegal fire arms.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvV3gr_vinE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RoMqB0VU4U&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RoMqB0VU4U&feature=related

Pay attetion to 3:20-3:33 it supports my above statement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_YTM_eAWnQ&feature=related

Look at this... this willl support even more what I wrote ^^^^

1:50-2:15 and 2:33-2:50

[turbosx©]

so your saying you wanna set there and wait for the cops?while somebody shoots up people on the marta train or bus?

[ShooterMcGavin]

reps to everyone here that has some damn sense :goodjob:

[Danny]

All I have to say is.....if this bill gets passed the crime rate will increase like crazy. If people can walk around in stores and junk with "legal" guns....there will be twice as many people walking around with illegal guns. We will look back and laugh at today's crime rate. I have yet to see the positives about it....but to each his own.

you are brilliant. See the problem with people like you is you uneducated. We can already legally carry in stores, and do all the time. Along with approximately 80% of restaurants. Its fools like you who think gun control effects criminals.

[Danny]

I think it's absolutely ridiculous for him to veto the bill, hell, it's also stupid for everyone to be lobbying against it, and anyone who thinks otherwise needs to be educated.

We can already carry in the majority of the places you eat regularly and it's perfectly legal. The restaurant change has to do with establishments that serve alcohol, and we would/will only be able to carry in restaurants that generate more than 51% of their income from food sales.

Marta, well, GA is one of VERY few states that don't allow carry on public transportation. As far as parks, it's only state parks. We can already carry in local parks, as it's illegal for a county or municipality to initiate any form of gun control beyond that of the state Constitution, it's a legal term known as preemption, and though several places do it, many have been sued over this and lost.

What most people fail to realize about GA's draconian gun laws is that they're NOT derived from safety standpoint. They date back to the era of the Jim Crow laws which were laws enforced to help control blacks in the post Civil War era.

Also, anyone who plans to use a firearm illegally doesn't give a damn whether they're allowed to have it or not, they're just going to have it. We go through hell, and lots of buearocracy and red tape just to be able to LEGALLY protect ourselves, our families, and others in the event of someone posing a serious threat to them, why limit where we can do so?

great job, i wish this was common knowledge. But most people lack the brain power to understand. +reps to a fellow GCO member!!

[Fr33way]

All I have to say is.....if this bill gets passed the crime rate will increase like crazy. If people can walk around in stores and junk with "legal" guns....there will be twice as many people walking around with illegal guns. We will look back and laugh at today's crime rate. I have yet to see the positives about it....but to each his own.

Wow. TRULY unaware of how many guns are around you at any given moment.

[Danny]

Wow. TRULY unaware of how many guns are around you at any given moment.


alot of people are unaware. Everywhere you go there are people carrying guns. Some people just live the life of blissful ignorance.

[turbosx©]

I know rite.To bad they dont know the real reason for gun control.

[efman]

I think it's absolutely ridiculous for him to veto the bill, hell, it's also stupid for everyone to be lobbying against it, and anyone who thinks otherwise needs to be educated.

We can already carry in the majority of the places you eat regularly and it's perfectly legal. The restaurant change has to do with establishments that serve alcohol, and we would/will only be able to carry in restaurants that generate more than 51% of their income from food sales.

Marta, well, GA is one of VERY few states that don't allow carry on public transportation. As far as parks, it's only state parks. We can already carry in local parks, as it's illegal for a county or municipality to initiate any form of gun control beyond that of the state Constitution, it's a legal term known as preemption, and though several places do it, many have been sued over this and lost.



What most people fail to realize about GA's draconian gun laws is that they're NOT derived from safety standpoint. They date back to the era of the Jim Crow laws which were laws enforced to help control blacks in the post Civil War era.

Also, anyone who plans to use a firearm illegally doesn't give a damn whether they're allowed to have it or not, they're just going to have it. We go through hell, and lots of buearocracy and red tape just to be able to LEGALLY protect ourselves, our families, and others in the event of someone posing a serious threat to them, why limit where we can do so?

i couldn't have said it better myself reps for you :cheers: :goodjob:

[imbosile]

great thread, lizbiz you're an idiot. sorry.

[ironchef]

Notice the dumb ***** hasn't posted in this thread since her original post? HAHA

[ShooterMcGavin]

think she got shot at a restaurant by a crazy concealed weapons licensee? :lmao:

[GSRteg®]

think she got shot at a restaurant by a crazy concealed weapons licensee? :lmao:

True... :lmfao:

[mad3nch1na]

All I have to say is.....if this bill gets passed the crime rate will increase like crazy. If people can walk around in stores and junk with "legal" guns....there will be twice as many people walking around with illegal guns. We will look back and laugh at today's crime rate. I have yet to see the positives about it....but to each his own.

Please explain the logic in this...

[One_Bad_SHO]

I'm pretty sure that convicted felons and people with criminal records to a cerain degree will not be allowed to license a gun. When i find the source from where I read that, I will post it.

However, that being said. Psychologically thinking... crime rate would most likely DECREASE. The fact that it would be legal to own and carry a gun in public doesnt mean that the majority nor general population would take advantage of this newfound right/privledge. So what, 1 out of 10 people carries a gun (and thats being modest in the numbers).

Think about it. If you're a young punk teen looking to cause some trouble in a store or some ****** that just got out of jail hoping to find their next victim... would you not be more cautious knowing that the guy next to you MAY have a gun and MAY have a legal right to use it in public? Come on now... criminals take advantage of thier surrounding because they know who has a gun and is capable of stopping them and who doesnt/cant. Its obvious. They look for cops. No cops in sight... WOO HOO! Rapeabitch. However, if this bill gets passed its going to be in everyones mind... wondering "Hmm, I wonder if that person has a gun".... criminals will be more cautious, crime will go down.

Just my 10 cents...

[blare]

Well tomorrow (Wednesday) is the last day for Sonny to veto, so lets hope all goes well and the rights of GA citizens get expanded to what they should have been.

[Kamelyn]

This bill needs to pass.

I have a GFL and have stopped a crime already happening by just lifting my shirt over my holster and showing that I was armed after some kid tried to break into my car in Fayetteville. I called a LEO and the kid was arrested for attempted robbery.

So being armed and knowing how to use it legally is always a plus.

[GSRteg®]

This bill needs to pass.

I have a GFL and have stopped a crime already happening by just lifting my shirt over my holster and showing that I was armed after some kid tried to break into my car in Fayetteville. I called a LEO and the kid was arrested for attempted robbery.

So being armed and knowing how to use it legally is always a plus.

That is true

[bigdare23]

I see it as

more guns on the street = more opportunities to use them

I bet if this pass, then "accidental" shooting will increase.

[nreggie454]

I see it as

more guns on the street = more opportunities to use them

I bet if this pass, then "accidental" shooting will increase.

The only people with these guns would be people who are liscensed to carry them. They have extensive background checks and have been trained on when to use a gun and when not to. There won't be any more guns on the street, just people will be able to carry their legal guns in more places.

[GSRteg®]

The only people with these guns would be people who are liscensed to carry them. They have extensive background checks and have been trained on when to use a gun and when not to. There won't be any more guns on the street, just people will be able to carry their legal guns in more places.

Well said reps

[bigdare23]

The only people with these guns would be people who are liscensed to carry them. They have extensive background checks and have been trained on when to use a gun and when not to. There won't be any more guns on the street, just people will be able to carry their legal guns in more places.


I know


But the more you have something around, the more likely you are to use it. Plus, it's plenty of trigger happy people that legally carry guns and the only thing keeping them from using it when not needed is the law. I can see where everyone is coming from, but ultimately I see this doing more harm than good.

[nreggie454]

I know


But the more you have something around, the more likely you are to use it. Plus, it's plenty of trigger happy people that legally carry guns and the only thing keeping them from using it when not needed is the law. I can see where everyone is coming from, but ultimately I see this doing more harm than good.

If that were the case, then many of these "trigger happy" carriers would have already committed shootings. This would definitely make news because the media would have a field day over this type of stuff. The people who carry guns know exactly how much poop they would be in if they fired their gun in the wrong situation, so they show restraint unless deadly force is needed.

However, I do agree that if you carry a firearm, your BAC should be 0.00, no matter what.

[GSRteg®]

I know
But the more you have something around, the more likely you are to use it. Plus, it's plenty of trigger happy people that legally carry guns and the only thing keeping them from using it when not needed is the law. I can see where everyone is coming from, but ultimately I see this doing more harm than good.

Its better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it. The guns will be used, but only to protect and defend ONLY... I highly dought some one is going to ruin there clean record that have CCW permit bc some one talked ****. But you might be right there are people out there that should not have a CCW permit, but that is why the sane ones that do have CCW pemit have it to defend ourselfs when they do snap. :goodjob:

[bigdare23]

Its better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it. The guns will be used, but only to protect and defend ONLY... I highly dought some one is going to ruin there clean record that have CCW permit bc some one talked ****. But you might be right there are people out there that should not have a CCW permit, but that is why the sane ones that do have CCW pemit have it to defend ourselfs when they do snap. :goodjob:


How are you 100% sure about the bold statement?!? What if someone with a clean record just suddenly decides to snap? He can walk anywhere freely with his weapon open and suddenly just start killing people. No one would of expected it out of him. Why? Because everyone walks around like that. That metal detecter that was normally at the door isn't there anymore because there isn't any need for it anymore since we are "protected" now :rolleyes:


There are plenty of legal people that shouldn't carry guns, but can you tell the difference between a killer and a person in their right mind when they are both packing? You would be the 1st person begging for justice if someone close to you was hurt in a public location by a "LEGAL carrier" that shouldn't owned a gun to start with.

[ShooterMcGavin]

I see it as

more guns on the street = more opportunities to use them

I bet if this pass, then "accidental" shooting will increase.

so why hasn't these "accidental" shootings increased in the states that have already passed such legislation?

not to mention your argument doesn't make sense from the get go. ppl today can already carry on the street, just not in certain places. so you're telling me by allowing them to carry in restaurants (and stipulating they can't drink) as well as public transportation they're all of a sudden going to start shooting each other randomly?

[GSRteg®]

How are you 100% sure about the bold statement?!? What if someone with a clean record just suddenly decides to snap? He can walk anywhere freely with his weapon open and suddenly just start killing people. No one would of expected it out of him. Why? Because everyone walks around like that. That metal detecter that was normally at the door isn't there anymore because there isn't any need for it anymore since we are "protected" now :rolleyes:


There are plenty of legal people that shouldn't carry guns, but can you tell the difference between a killer and a person in their right mind when they are both packing? You would be the 1st person begging for justice if someone close to you was hurt in a public location by a "LEGAL carrier" that shouldn't owned a gun to start with.

I have already answered that of what you speak.

[GSRteg®]

so why hasn't these "accidental" shootings increased in the states that have already passed such legislation?

not to mention your argument doesn't make sense from the get go. ppl today can already carry on the street, just not in certain places. so you're telling me by allowing them to carry in restaurants (and stipulating they can't drink) as well as public transportation they're all of a sudden going to start shooting each other randomly?

He doesn't get the point man that is all.

[bigdare23]

so why hasn't these "accidental" shootings increased in the states that have already passed such legislation?

not to mention your argument doesn't make sense from the get go. ppl today can already carry on the street, just not in certain places. so you're telling me by allowing them to carry in restaurants (and stipulating they can't drink) as well as public transportation they're all of a sudden going to start shooting each other randomly?


You can/ or can't justify everything based on other regions. We are talking about GA not those other places. You wont know what's going to happen until it does. That's like saying because your older brother's gay you're going to be gay. My point makes perfect sense. The more you have on your plate the more you're going to eat. The more condons you have the more you're going to try to ****. So the more places you can carry weapons, they more opportunities for people to **** up and misuse them. :screwy:

[Kamelyn]

First off HB89, has nothing to do with allowing more guns on the street. It actually just expands the locations in which GFL holders can carry.

Meaning if you have a GFL you can carry: at locations that sell alcohol for consumption on the premises (aka bars and restaurants) as long as the person isn't consuming alcohol, state parks (ie. Grant Park, Centennial Park), and Public Transportation (ie. MARTA). Which under current law GFL holders cannot.

This would help protect the people that are legally able to have guns in their possession from being victims in open areas.

How would you feel if you and your family are at the park and a guy comes up and tries to attack you, knowing that you can't carry your gun, but you have a GFL?

I'd feel better knowing that wherever I go I can carry my gun and not feel "naked" without protection against some ol' schmo that wants my money or tries to hurt my family.

By allowing this law to go in affect people like this woman who was attacked in the park would not have happened because she had a GFL and could have protected herself.

[bigdare23]

He doesn't get the point man that is all.


I get the point. You don't get the point. There are two sides to everything, and I'm brilliant enough to see both. There's no reason to defend one side when everyone is already saying the same damn thing. I was just showing you the other viewpoint.

[bigdare23]

I have already answered that of what you speak.


no you didn't :screwy:

[Kamelyn]

Bigdare23--- read what i wrote above

And if trigger happy GFL holders are the ones you are worried about... Keep this in mind I took the time to get my GFL so if I get pissed off and want to fire a few rounds I just go down to the local gun range and fire off a few without consequence and increase my targetting.

[GSRteg®]

I get the point. You don't get the point. There are two sides to everything, and I'm brilliant enough to see both. There's no reason to defend one side when everyone is already saying the same damn thing. I was just showing you the other viewpoint.

There are two sides of everything no matter what... the question it do you get the main point and that is a NO. But imagine this your at a state park with your GF...(your life and her life are in danger) a guy is approaching you with a knife and saying give me your car keys what do you do now? If you have a CCW permit you can pull that gun out and say back of and he will back of knowing you are armed. But in reality that is what HB 89 is doing, it's letting you carry in more places were ur more open to attacks.

[GSRteg®]

Bigdare23--- read what i wrote above

And if trigger happy GFL holders are the ones you are worried about... Keep this in mind I took the time to get my GFL so if I get pissed off and want to fire a few rounds I just go down to the local gun range and fire off a few without consequence and increase my targetting.

You and me both man... it's a privilege to be able to carry. :goodjob:

[Kamelyn]

It's one thing to know that you have protection and it's another thing hoping you don't become a victim. I like reassurance, vs. risk, especially when I'm in control.

[GSRteg®]

It's one thing to know that you have protection and it's another thing hoping you don't become a victim. I like reassurance, vs. risk, especially when I'm in control.

Damn your like reading my mind bro. :D

[GSRteg®]

Kamelyn when will we know if it passed or not?

[Kamelyn]

I don't know just yet but I keep checking

http://georgiapacking.org/bills.php

every week. Hopefully July 1, it becomes law.

[GSRteg®]

I don't know just yet but I keep checking

http://georgiapacking.org/bills.php

every week. Hopefully July 1, it becomes law.

July 1st it is then :goodjob:

[Kamelyn]

July 1st it is then :goodjob:

That makes two of us. :goodjob::goodjob:

[blare]

Your missing the point bigdare. This bill only expands the rights of people currently holding GFL's and guess what? These people already carry almost everywhere except for a few places. GFL holders will now be able to carry in restaurants that serve alcohol, state parks, and public transportation when this bill passes.

As for someone snapping and killing a bunch of people, last time I checked people didn't care what places were off limits for GFL's when they went on a murdering spree.

EDIT: Just noticed someone already covered this point above. I can't wait either ! WE should have had these rights a long time ago.

[DieselNuts]

All I have to say is.....if this bill gets passed the crime rate will increase like crazy. If people can walk around in stores and junk with "legal" guns....there will be twice as many people walking around with illegal guns. We will look back and laugh at today's crime rate. I have yet to see the positives about it....but to each his own.
wow, you are retarded. There is a city in Arizona where it is legal for ANYONE to carry w/o a license. You know what the crime rate is in that little town? Its 0. Thats because there is a good chance that the person that is about to get robbed has a gun, so they dont get robbed for fear of being shot.

[DieselNuts]

No cops in sight... WOO HOO! Rapeabitch.
LIRL! That is sig material right there!

[DieselNuts]

How are you 100% sure about the bold statement?!? What if someone with a clean record just suddenly decides to snap? He can walk anywhere freely with his weapon open and suddenly just start killing people. No one would of expected it out of him. Why? Because everyone walks around like that.
What keeps someone that isnt licensed from doing that?

[ShooterMcGavin]

You can/ or can't justify everything based on other regions. We are talking about GA not those other places. You wont know what's going to happen until it does. That's like saying because your older brother's gay you're going to be gay. My point makes perfect sense. The more you have on your plate the more you're going to eat. The more condons you have the more you're going to try to ****. So the more places you can carry weapons, they more opportunities for people to **** up and misuse them. :screwy:
wow, you REALLY don't get it. what makes georgia so damn special that we wouldn't follow the same trend that's already been set? your point doesn't make ANY sense, you keep saying "we need to keep guns off the street" but do you even realize how many law abiding citizens carry EVERYWHERE regardless of the law? how many accidental shootings have there been bc of that?

[ShooterMcGavin]

I get the point. You don't get the point. There are two sides to everything, and I'm brilliant enough to see both. There's no reason to defend one side when everyone is already saying the same damn thing. I was just showing you the other viewpoint.
how convenient. if you're so brilliant you wouldn't be arguing for the WRONG side, whether you can SEE it or not. many who have posted here can SEE the other side, but all it does is make us laugh at how ridiculous it is.

[ShooterMcGavin]

Kamelyn when will we know if it passed or not?

TODAY! if sonny doesn't veto it then it passes since it's been on the table for a month. and if it does pass then it becomes law on july 1st :goodjob:

[DieselNuts]

how convenient. if you're so brilliant you wouldn't be arguing for the WRONG side, whether you can SEE it or not. many who have posted here can SEE the other side, but all it does is make us laugh at how ridiculous it is.
Quoted for troof. Reps for you buddy :goodjob:

[Got Milk?]

WTH? Carry guns any where? What do people do first when they really get pissed, they want to beat the hell out of the other person. Well if they have their gun, and they really get pissed at someone else, first thing they will do is grab for their gun and point the gun at the persons face. Now if the other guy also have a legal gun on him, he will probably do the same thing, and thats how we will get a death increase.

STUPID IDEA.

[ShooterMcGavin]

WTH? Carry guns any where? What do people do first when they really get pissed, they want to beat the hell out of the other person. Well if they have their gun, and they really get pissed at someone else, first thing they will do is grab for their gun and point the gun at the persons face. Now if the other guy also have a legal gun on him, he will probably do the same thing, and thats how we will get a death increase.

STUPID IDEA.
please only speak for idiots such as yourself and not the general population, kthx :goodjob:

[Jaimecbr900]

Those of you that are sooooo afraid of inanimate objects need to look at logic and FACTS.

This legislation has been in place in many many places already and some of your totally unrealistic logic has been proven wrong. Take Miami as an example.

From what I've read, this was in place there. Guess what happened? The crime rate drastically dropped. Why? Because the criminals suddenly were afraid and weren't sure just who was packing. But guess what else happened, that in my mind cements even more my thought process on this subject.......the crime rate in some other areas actually went UP. Yep, UP. Follow this now.....stick with me.

The criminals steered clear of those areas where they no longer KNEW that people would be easy prey due to the new legislation, SOOOO they figured out WHERE there were areas where they KNEW people would be unarmed. Guess where that is? AIRPORT. Yes, the Miami-Dade Int'l Airport. The criminals KNOW that when you come OFF an airplane you are definetly NOT carrying any weapons. Hell, we all KNOW that. So they would loiter around the airport, find their mark....usually someone renting a car (i.e. out of towners).....and follow them out of the airport. They would do the good ole "swoop and dive" car accident scheme where they just "accidentally" bump you to get you to stop and get out of the car....at which point since they KNOW you are NOT protected they turn the tables and rob you AT GUN POINT. See how that works?

So again, if any of you following the gun control herd mentality that says "GUNS kill people", should use some logic and seek FACTS. Giving people MORE power to protect themselves against criminals is NEVER a bad idea.

The ironic thing is that in today's AJC editorial, probably because the deadline is today for Perdue to veto this bill, they echo exactly what some of the gun control nuts in here are saying. Funny thing is that it would probably take all of 5 mins to find a million pages worth of FACTS on those cities where this has already been in place for a while, long enough to come to some concrete conclusions which overwhelmingly show crime rates do indeed DROP when gun laws are laxed. But if you read the editorial, it falls over backward saying there is "zero proof" that crime rates are affected by gun laws. Hmmmm, then why have ANY gun laws at all IF they do "nothing" according to you???? :thinking:

[blare]

The people on the anti side don't seem to know or realize that GFL holders have been carrying guns in almost 75% of the places they visit everyday. Thats right there is a dude in your McDonalds, mall, movie theater, and Wal Mart that is carrying a gun. This expansion into another 15% of the places you visit is not going to make GFL holders go on shooting rampages.

BTW It's been said once and I will say it again. This law only affects the good guys, because criminals obviously dont give a **** about the law.

[nreggie454]

WTH? Carry guns any where? What do people do first when they really get pissed, they want to beat the hell out of the other person. Well if they have their gun, and they really get pissed at someone else, first thing they will do is grab for their gun and point the gun at the persons face. Now if the other guy also have a legal gun on him, he will probably do the same thing, and thats how we will get a death increase.

STUPID IDEA.

STUPID PERSON.

This law allows people who already have carry liscenses to carry in more places. These people show restraint every day and have had extensive background checks and have been fingerprinted. They know that if they use their gun at the wrong time, the law will be on their ass immediately. They have been trained on when to use deadly force, and when not to. People think that because of this bill, every single person will have a gun, and also every single person is some hothead that has a terrible temper and no conscience. That thought process is WRONG.

EDIT: You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Jaimecbr900 again.

[DieselNuts]

STUPID PERSON.

This law allows people who already have carry liscenses to carry in more places. These people show restraint every day and have had extensive background checks and have been fingerprinted. They know that if they use their gun at the wrong time, the law will be on their ass immediately. They have been trained on when to use deadly force, and when not to. People think that because of this bill, every single person will have a gun, and also every single person is some hothead that has a terrible temper and no conscience. That thought process is WRONG.
this thread should be closed. There are seriously at least 20 posts that say the SAME THING. What is it that is not clear about the quoted post???

[nreggie454]

this thread should be closed. There are seriously at least 20 posts that say the SAME THING. What is it that is not clear about the quoted post???

I know. However, a moron always jumps in the thread with the exact same argument, so the exact response arises. I know I have posted that response two or three times already, but I guess they are also too dumb to read through the thread.

[DieselNuts]

I know. However, a moron always jumps in the thread with the exact same argument, so the exact response arises. I know I have posted that response two or three times already, but I guess they are also too dumb to read through the thread.
the thing is, they shouldnt have to read the thread to realize what you are saying. Their arguments are all the same, with the same point....All being wrong...

[nreggie454]

the thing is, they shouldnt have to read the thread to realize what you are saying. Their arguments are all the same, with the same point....All being wrong...
Yup. I guess they all have this:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/18/70384439_ba1fd5b9de.jpg
reps, btw.

[ShooterMcGavin]

never underestimate the persistence of stupid ppl :goodjob:

reps to all those who have some damn sense about them.

[DieselNuts]

lol, speaking of....where did LizBiz run off to?

[ShooterMcGavin]

^^we've already speculated on this as well

[Jaimecbr900]

lol, speaking of....where did LizBiz run off to?

OUCH!!!:ninja:

[turbosx©]

well people the bill passed!!!

come July 1st Georgia as we know it is gonna end lol.

who wants to celebrate besides me?

[DieselNuts]

so, did he sign it or did he just not veto it?

[ShooterMcGavin]

:bigdance:

i'm not TOO surprised, he did let it leak during an interview last week that he was leaning towards either signing or letting it pass on its own :yay:

btw, it was signed :goodjob:

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?p=36776736#post36776736

[turbosx©]

shag my bad I didnt see you posted that.

[GSRteg®]

TODAY! if sonny doesn't veto it then it passes since it's been on the table for a month. and if it does pass then it becomes law on july 1st :goodjob:

Well it passed that's all that matters. :goodjob:

[1439/2000]

I'm glad this passed. Now I wont be a criminal when I go hiking anymore.

Oh and MARTA, I wills always no matter what carry. If i run into Soulja girl on the train you never know what might happen.

[ShooterMcGavin]

YA B1TCH YA! :lmao:

[Kamelyn]

Yeah!!!!! it passed

[Julio]

=]

[GSRteg®]

Yeah!!!!! it passed

... :goodjob:

[81911SC]

I can't believe I didn't see this thread. Anyway, I read through and naturally women weren't using logic. No surprise there, but I'm glad it passed.