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cobra
04-21-2008, 05:43 PM
I have a question about sound system



Which subwoofer is better? For bass, handling, low and high volume, and other things


1. Kicker 08S15L5-4

15" 1500W Dual 4-Ohm Subwoofer

Technical Specification

Sensitivity: 88.8 dB (http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=16825#)
RMS Power Range : 750 Watts (http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=16825#)
Peak Power Handling: 1500 Watts (http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=16825#)
Impedance: Dual 4 Ohm (http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=16825#)
Low Frequency response: 18 Hz (http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=16825#)
High Frequency Response: 100000 Hz (http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=16825#)
Diameter: 15 Inch
Features

Solo-Baric L5 Subwoofer
Nominal Impedance: Dual 4 ohm
Power Handling Watts Peak (RMS): 1500 (750)
Frequency Response: 18-100kHz
Sensitivity: 88.8db
Resonance Frequency: 24.0Hz
Total Q-Factor [Qts]: 0.428
Equivalent Volume [Vas], ft3 (L): 7.92 (224.36)
Outer Frame Dimension, in (cm): 15-5/8" (39.7)
Mounting Depth, in (cm): 8-12" (21.6)
Patented square woofer technology
Ultra-rigid SoloKon with constant back bracing
T-cut top plate for wider magnetic field, increased thermal efficiency
Progressive-roll, poly-cotton spider
Spring loaded terminals
Voice-coil wire to 428 degrees F
Rear foam gasket on stamped-steel basket with perimeter venting

OR


2. Kicker 08S12L7-4

12" 1500W Dual 4-Ohm Subwoofer

Technical Specification

Sensitivity: 87.4 dB (http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=16277#)
RMS Power Range : 50-750 Watts (http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=16277#)
Peak Power Handling: 1500 Watts (http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=16277#)
Impedance: Dual 4 Ohm (http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=16277#)
Low Frequency response: 20 Hz (http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=16277#)
High Frequency Response: 100 Hz (http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=16277#)
Diameter: 12 Inch
Features

Kicker Solo-Baric L7 Series
12" subwoofer with dual 4-ohm voice coils
SoloKon aluminum-treated composite cone with Santoprene surround
Cast-aluminum basket
Power range: 50-750 RMS watts
Peak power: 1500 watts
Frequency range: 20-100 Hz
Sensitivity: 87.4 dB
Mounting depth: 6-13/16"
Sealed box volume: 0.88-2.00 cubic feet
Ported box volume: 1.75-3.25 cu. ft.




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please help me

patrick4588
04-21-2008, 07:11 PM
volume displacement determines how loud a sub is. sd x xmax = vd
08s12l74 - 99.98in2 x .56in = 56in3
08s15l54 - 163.68in2 x .67in = 109.7in3
thats almost a 6db difference, every 3 db is equivalent to doubling power. so the numbers say the 08s15l54 will be EXTREMELY louder

cobra
04-21-2008, 08:28 PM
thanks patrick4588

so I think I will go with the 15" L5

thanks again

DieselNuts
04-21-2008, 08:41 PM
volume displacement determines how loud a sub is. sd x xmax = vd
08s12l74 - 99.98in2 x .56in = 56in3
08s15l54 - 163.68in2 x .67in = 109.7in3
thats almost a 6db difference, every 3 db is equivalent to doubling power. so the numbers say the 08s15l54 will be EXTREMELY louder
wow, you know your shiit. REPS for that.

joshk5145
04-21-2008, 10:06 PM
even though the 15 is louder i think you would probably be happier with the 12. if the 15 is really loud then you will overpower all of the other parts of your music and with my experience not with l5's or l7's but in general speakers i found the the comfort level of the 12 is alot wider than that of the 15. i have both a 12 and 15 in my car. a kicker cv-r 15 and a audiopipe eye candy series 12. also sound depends alot on box type and size but for l5's and l7's they make mostly specialty boxes just for them. just my 2 cents.

Barefoot
04-21-2008, 10:09 PM
step up be a man get the 08s15l74

patrick4588
04-21-2008, 10:27 PM
^^^ the L5 version is actually louder than the L7. want a hard hitting 15, look into the mtx t9515-04.

patrick4588
04-21-2008, 10:29 PM
even though the 15 is louder i think you would probably be happier with the 12. if the 15 is really loud then you will overpower all of the other parts of your music and with my experience not with l5's or l7's but in general speakers i found the the comfort level of the 12 is alot wider than that of the 15. i have both a 12 and 15 in my car. a kicker cv-r 15 and a audiopipe eye candy series 12. also sound depends alot on box type and size but for l5's and l7's they make mostly specialty boxes just for them. just my 2 cents.

if properly tuned, the sub wont overpower your speakers, whether they are stock or not.

cobra
04-21-2008, 11:05 PM
now, I found two deals
what do you recomand to buy?

1. http://cgi.ebay.com/2-KICKER-SOLOBARIC-S15L5-15-L5-3000W-SUBWOOFERS-NEW-06_W0QQitemZ250238901626QQcmdZViewItem

2. http://cgi.ebay.com/2-KICKER-S12L7-12-SOLOBARIC-L7-SUBWOOFERS-NEW-06-PAIR_W0QQitemZ250238857289QQihZ015QQcategoryZ18803 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

patrick4588
04-22-2008, 12:14 AM
personally i would try to find them in the kicker enclosure, but if you want to build a box yourself, go with link 1.

cobra
04-22-2008, 03:04 AM
thanks patrick4588 for your help:cool: