How to improve Atlanta

[Jecht]

I'm just curious as to what everyone thinks that the city needs improvement on.

I personally think that we need to expand Marta out into the larger suburbs and increase the capacity for it. It would help solve some of the traffic and pollution problems if only people would use it.

I also think we need to find a way to improve our water situation. While we have been getting above average rainfall for this year so far, I doubt it will continue into the summer months. We need to find plans to keep this water while we have it.

What does everyone else think?

[BanginJimmy]

You pointed out what I was going to say. If you look at any other major city, they have outstanding mass transit systems. Atlanta does not have even a marginal one.

[redpanda]

finish the sidewalks. I swear, every where in Gwinnett and surrounding areas, there are like 5 blocks and then a bunch of grass..then half a mile later a couple more blocks.

[Jecht]

You pointed out what I was going to say. If you look at any other major city, they have outstanding mass transit systems. Atlanta does not have even a marginal one.

I really wish they would spend some money to improve the public transportation, because I would much rather take Marta or another train back and forth from school. I already ride my bike to work except when it rains. :D

[Reaper]

finish the damn construct and lighten up traffic on 75/85

that'd be enough to make me happy lol

[thepolecat]

I agree with you- all the best cities have a good mass transit system that is easy to use- we suck at it. I really think it holds the city back

[gforce23]

There's no way roadworks can keep up with the ever-increasing # of cars on our roads. Due to the relatively low cost of living compared to other big-10 cities, most of us prefer to have more than 1 car per person. Increasing the width of I75/85/285 to even 10 lanes is only a temporary solution. The only real solution is to build a better MARTA system that reaches the areas where a vast population of Atlantans live, viz., Marietta, Sandy Springs etc. Encourage people to travel by public transport and make the train/bus combo the real lifeline of the city. I'm all for levying road tax/toll during weekday rush hour. Something along the lines of London/Manhattan (NYC) would be great. Enforce a strict "left lane is for passing only" rule. Give the left lane mofo sitters a straight 6 point ticket. That way we won't have people queuing up in all lanes. Increase the speed limit to 75mph and enforce that.

And for the love of God, stop putting up construction zones in every farking corner. Construction zones are for "construction" and not for enforcing a freakin speed zone. If you're gonna expand the road in '09, put the damn cones up in '09 and not in '07. The downtown connector is an absolute mess. I have to leave home an hour in advance for getting to the airport on Monday mornings, something that used to take 20 odd minutes until late last year.

[MistaCee]

I'm just curious as to what everyone thinks that the city needs improvement on.

I personally think that we need to expand Marta out into the larger suburbs and increase the capacity for it. It would help solve some of the traffic and pollution problems if only people would use it.

I also think we need to find a way to improve our water situation. While we have been getting above average rainfall for this year so far, I doubt it will continue into the summer months. We need to find plans to keep this water while we have it.

What does everyone else think?

That is actually a excellent idea:goodjob:

[Reaper]

I'm serious about the construction just because if any one has paid attention, Atlanta is going to be doing road construction @ night and on the weekends from now till the end of summer....which means that traffic is going to SUCK! I was coming down 85S and looked on 85N and it was backed up an easy 15miles...I wish they'd just finally end it..I mean I understand what they are doing needs to be done, but Jesus lol

[Nismo]

No we dont need to expand marta out to the suburbs. Crime doesnt need to go up.

[Jecht]

No we dont need to expand marta out to the suburbs. Crime doesnt need to go up.

Thats why Cobb County wouldn't let Marta build a station here in the first place. But crime isn't exactly any better in Cobb than it is anywhere else around Atlanta.

[gforce23]

Thats why Cobb County wouldn't let Marta build a station here in the first place. But crime isn't exactly any better in Cobb than it is anywhere else around Atlanta.
Valid point. +1

Until the stupid city and surrounding county legislators get their act together and put aside all racist hatred BS, municipal fund crap and general fck-you-fck-me sh*t, none of our ideas will even be heard, let alone implemented. Their callous attitude has already put ATL at #2 (or #3?) on the 'cities with the worst traffic jams' list. Need further proof? ATL wasn't anywhere close to the top 10 cities for worst traffic jams in '04, jumped straight to #4 in '05, pushed aside DC some early last year and is now trying to take the infamous crown from LA. Oh, and ATL's drivers are amongst the 10 worst drivers in the nation. Brilliant stats, I must say. :rolleyes:

[Julio]

Keep Crime away.. I say no to expanding Marta.

[Double_0_Rusty]

who gives a fucc? not me......lolol I live 62 miles away from Atlanta. Thank god for living in the boondocks.










free post taaahaaa

[Reaper]

I live 25 miles south, but I love the Atl.!! Fix the ****!!! I'm tired of construction! Cops need to crack down on crime and make things a little more safe though for real..haha

[ironchef]

No on expanding Marta, no thanks at all. Really the only way to fix problems in Atlanta is to elect people with IQs above 100 into office. In particular, the city council, the GDOT, and Marta are run by complete idiots.

Its sad that in London where their rail system contains like 100 different rail lines, they never fail to have each and every train there on time. Yet the idiots at Marta can't even manage 4-5 lines, its ridiculous.

[batlude]

get rid of some of the homeless that be robbing people!!!

[EJ25RUN]

ATLANTA MAGLEV!

[turbosx©]

you put a topic up on how to improve Atlanta and you say the marta?thats stupid.

Here your answer, Remove a majority of all the idiots and illegals.


but don't take what I said personally.

[ahmonrah]

an expansion of the rail system is important to this and every other major city in the US.
in NY, 50% of residents dont even own cars due to the fact that----"WHY? the rail takes me wherever i need to go....ANYTIME." CHICAGO_ though they have people driving in from gary, indiana/ waukeagan, wisconsin they still have a transit system that runs 24/7.

when i moved here('94) i thought it extremely frickin retarded to have a
"MAJOR" city like atlanta, known for partying til dawn, a place where somethings always going on at anytime/day of the week, to have a rail system that dumps you off at midnight...2am at the latest.

expansion of the railways well beyond it's present size needs to happen. we'd all stand to benefit from that.

i think it's funny the counties that didnt want to be involved, citing "increased crime", turned around and created their own transit systems and where to the riders end up? ON MARTA.

[KPowerEP3]

5 kton nuke and start fresh. No evacuation.

[tippatone]

Atlanta's rail system is flawed for the fact that the city was built first then they said, "oh, let build a rail system". It does not work like that, NYC and Chicago systems started getting built in the early 1900's way before population boomed, while MARTA is not even 35 years old. How will they go about expanding the system? Working underneath a city that has bad traffic on a good day, dont even hold your breath for and upgrade. IMO a city's rail system is supposed to be built first and then you expand to accomdate population boom, not the other way around.

[Jecht]

Atlanta's rail system is flawed for the fact that the city was built first then they said, "oh, let build a rail system". It does not work like that, NYC and Chicago systems started getting built in the early 1900's way before population boomed, while MARTA is not even 35 years old. How will they go about expanding the system? Working underneath a city that has bad traffic on a good day, dont even hold your breath for and upgrade. IMO a city's rail system is supposed to be built first and then you expand to accomdate population boom, not the other way around.

True, but if the city spent some money on Marta instead of constantly upgrading the highways, it would essentially kill two birds with one stone - alleviate highway traffic and decrease pollution significantly.

Like Ahmonrah said, most of the counties that didn't want Marta here have their own public transportation (like CCT here in Cobb) that actually connect with Marta anyways.

Ironchef, how would replacing people in those positions help?

turbosx, why do you think we need to remove people?

[quickdodge®]

Atlanta's rail system is flawed for the fact that the city was built first then they said, "oh, let build a rail system". It does not work like that, NYC and Chicago systems started getting built in the early 1900's way before population boomed, while MARTA is not even 35 years old. How will they go about expanding the system? Working underneath a city that has bad traffic on a good day, dont even hold your breath for and upgrade. IMO a city's rail system is supposed to be built first and then you expand to accomdate population boom, not the other way around.

You shouldn't post until you actually know what you're posting about. Atlanta had the same form of rail system that other cities had back in the early 1900s. In fact, trolleys came into Atlanta as early as the late 1880s and ran through the 1940s. They were called trolleys and Atlanta had trolley lines back then. Know your history, dummy.
Inman Park Trolly

http://www.thetrolleybarn.com/images/no7.l.jpg

Inman Park Station

http://www.inmanparkbandb.com/art/trolleybarn.jpg

Laying tracks in downtown

http://msit.gsu.edu/dhr/pullen/..%5Cpullen%5Cimages%5Cfivepoints%5C1891.jpg

That's just a couple of photos on the Web.

Oh. And MARTA is well over 35 years old. Later, QD.

[Farrow2005]

i was cut off, 7 times in STAND STILL TRAFFIC on N85. i dont even live around ATL, i was just going with friends to the mall.

I also played Papper, Rock, scissors with 8 or 9 people while waiting.



Valid point. +1

Until the stupid city and surrounding county legislators get their act together and put aside all racist hatred BS, municipal fund crap and general fck-you-fck-me sh*t, none of our ideas will even be heard, let alone implemented. Their callous attitude has already put ATL at #2 (or #3?) on the 'cities with the worst traffic jams' list. Need further proof? ATL wasn't anywhere close to the top 10 cities for worst traffic jams in '04, jumped straight to #4 in '05, pushed aside DC some early last year and is now trying to take the infamous crown from LA. Oh, and ATL's drivers are amongst the 10 worst drivers in the nation. Brilliant stats, I must say. :rolleyes:

[quickdodge®]

ATL wasn't anywhere close to the top 10 cities for worst traffic jams in '04,

Atlanta was actually number 9 in 2001 and 2002. Number 8 in 1999. So they've been in the Top 10 for almost 10 years now. Later, QD.

[ironchef]

Ironchef, how would replacing people in those positions help?

Because the current people in those positions are morons, so hopefully they could be replaced with people that have brains and that want to better our situation, instead of just getting paid.

[Spektrewing386]

In Chicago, we have highways everywhere. Theres like at least 8 different highways. And there is a massive train system.

[gforce23]

Atlanta was actually number 9 in 2001 and 2002. Number 8 in 1999. So they've been in the Top 10 for almost 10 years now. Later, QD.
That's possible. But if that's the case, ATL dropped out of the top 10 during the early part of this decade. From my source on the web for 2005 (http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2005/05/dc_has_nations_third-worst_traffic/)


This year’s big mover was Atlanta, which debuted in the “very large”
city category at number four, just a notch below Washington.

[Nikola]

Not that it matter for the out of town people but they are planing a trolly line that goes from buckhead area all the way to downtown along peachtree rd/st...

[quickdodge®]

That's possible.

There's no "possible" about it. It's so.


But if that's the case, ATL dropped out of the top 10 during the early part of this decade. From my source on the web for 2005 (http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2005/05/dc_has_nations_third-worst_traffic/)


This year’s big mover was Atlanta, which debuted in the “very large”
city category at number four, just a notch below Washington.

That article cites "this year's biggest mover." They've been in the Top 10 since 1998. Later, QD.

[GIXXERDK]

you put a topic up on how to improve Atlanta and you say the marta?thats stupid.

Here your answer, Remove a majority of all the idiots and illegals.


but don't take what I said personally.

Nothing personal but heres how I see it. Without the illegals Atlanta would be living several years behind.

[OneDurtyZ]

how to improve atlanta...























http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Castle_romeo2.jpg


Lower population=less traffic, and removes those pesky buildings ;)

[tippatone]

You shouldn't post until you actually know what you're posting about. Atlanta had the same form of rail system that other cities had back in the early 1900s. In fact, trolleys came into Atlanta as early as the late 1880s and ran through the 1940s. They were called trolleys and Atlanta had trolley lines back then. Know your history, dummy.
Inman Park Trolly

http://www.thetrolleybarn.com/images/no7.l.jpg

Inman Park Station

http://www.inmanparkbandb.com/art/trolleybarn.jpg

Laying tracks in downtown

http://msit.gsu.edu/dhr/pullen/..%5Cpullen%5Cimages%5Cfivepoints%5C1891.jpg

That's just a couple of photos on the Web. .




Oh. And MARTA is well over 35 years old. Later, QD.




Dumbass, is a trolley a subway? NO a subway travels underground not on the street and it does not have cables. A trolley system is not that hard to accomplish, know your facts buddy. SUBWAY is the key word not TROLLEY
Since you need special attention, I meant the rail part of MARTA, I know its not 70-80 years old

[KPowerEP3]

repost

how to improve atlanta...






















http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Castle_romeo2.jpg


Lower population=less traffic, and removes those pesky buildings ;)

[quickdodge®]

Dumbass, is a trolley a subway?


SUBWAY is the key word not TROLLEY

I read and re-read your attempt at obtaining, miserably, an ounce of intellectual respect on here to see where you slightly mentioned subway. I have even re-quoted you so that you may be able to point this out to me, an avid and learned reader, the point in which you stated "subway."




Atlanta's rail system is flawed for the fact that the city was built first then they said, "oh, let build a rail system". It does not work like that, NYC and Chicago systems started getting built in the early 1900's way before population boomed, while MARTA is not even 35 years old. How will they go about expanding the system? Working underneath a city that has bad traffic on a good day, dont even hold your breath for and upgrade. IMO a city's rail system is supposed to be built first and then you expand to accomdate population boom, not the other way around.

After a fourth time perusing, vehemently, your fable, I still come up with nothing. I never even spotted your "key" word. Please indulge my request and point it out to me. If you can, I will apologize for every disparaging remark thrown your way by me.


A trolley system is not that hard to accomplish, know your facts buddy.

Know my facts, huh? It seems my "facts," as usual, far outweigh yours, little boy. Where I have completely obliterated your "solution," you have done nothing to add comprehensibility to the question at hand. in other words, the only question you need to try and work on is..."Why am I such an idiot?"

Tis best to fight back when you have a vast armament to do so or you will end up digging your own grave. Later, QD.

[BanginJimmy]

growing up in Chicago we had the trains that would take you anyplace in the city. I used to get on the trains and goto Cubs and Sox games all the time. On top of the trains we had the bus system that you could get from where I grew up in Blue Island all the way out to Kankakee with 3 transfers. Its over 40 miles straight line and took about 4-5 hours to get that far, but it was possible. 1 thing that ATL could do to aleviate some of the traffic, especially downtown is add a elevated train system. There would be less impact on the streets than construction would and would get alot of people off the streets in the downtown area.

[turbosx©]

Nothing personal but heres how I see it. Without the illegals Atlanta would be living several years behind.



But a majority of illegals arent worth much. and some should replace the legal us citizens.dont get me wrong but public transportation is not the problem.I mean it a big problem.But if we had people that had common sense while driving,government that made things happen quickly and smarter people in general i would hope things would look up. thats just my opinion.

[Spektrewing386]

+1 for a Chicago native. I loved the trains. They were EVERYWHERE!!! You couldnt go anywhere without seeing the tracks... or a highway on ramp. Also most of the roads were set up in a grid, which made it easier to navigate.

Also I loved Chicago for its lack of confederate flag waving, huge truck driving, improper grammer talking, narrow minded, annoying southern accent rednecks.

[quickdodge®]

huge truck driving,

I drove through Chi-Town many times in my tractor last summer, *******! Lolol. Later, QD.

[tippatone]

I read and re-read your attempt at obtaining, miserably, an ounce of intellectual respect on here to see where you slightly mentioned subway. I have even re-quoted you so that you may be able to point this out to me, an avid and learned reader, the point in which you stated "subway."





After a fourth time perusing, vehemently, your fable, I still come up with nothing. I never even spotted your "key" word. Please indulge my request and point it out to me. If you can, I will apologize for every disparaging remark thrown your way by me.



Know my facts, huh? It seems my "facts," as usual, far outweigh yours, little boy. Where I have completely obliterated your "solution," you have done nothing to add comprehensibility to the question at hand. in other words, the only question you need to try and work on is..."Why am I such an idiot?"

Tis best to fight back when you have a vast armament to do so or you will end up digging your own grave. Later, QD.



You mad because you wrong? Dont you think an above ground rail system is easier to accomplish then digging up a city that is already built? You cant build tall buildings and then want to tunnel a train system after the fact.

[quickdodge®]

You mad because you wrong?

Wrong? Where? I don't see where you pointed out that I was wrong. I asked you to show me where you were talking about a subway.


Dont you think an above ground rail system is easier to accomplish then digging up a city that is already built? You cant build tall buildings and then want to tunnel a train system after the fact.

Lolol @ completely trying to change the subject to something else. You know I bent your biitch ass over and fucced the shiit out of you, Boy.

DUMBASS BOY

Let folks that make a difference for the positive post in here. Little biitches need not post. Later, QD.

[Jecht]

Haha no real need to argue over trains any more. Any other ideas?

[TehHakingS14]

we need more bums.....seriously, they are funny people.

[blackboi50]

yea im thinking the suburbs need sidewalks and need to put up more mini stores......like mom and pop stores up north!!!!........

btw tippatone is about to get banned:lmfao:........1

[ahmonrah]

upon further review.......tippatone, i thank you fro my friday "LIRLZ".

reading your train-guement with QD when he provided historical truth to the fact that a train and trolley system were here almost as long as the city itself crakked me up!

trying to stop a freight train with a BB GUN....nice!

so MEMBERS, are there any other possible ways to improve the city? how about economically? is there a problem with the cost of living/ wages or salaries?

[thepolecat]

I still like idea someone stated about charging people to drive into the city at certain times of day- like London and New York.

The problem is Atlanta is SO spread out it makes a single system more difficult (not impossible though)

[big mac]

no more tint laws and bump speed limit up by ten lol

[bastarling84]

no more tint laws and bump speed limit up by ten lol
How is being able to have homie-tint going to help improve the quality of life?

[quickdodge®]

How is being able to have homie-tint going to help improve the quality of life?

It's not. He was just displaying the higher points of his schooling. Later, QD.

[BanginJimmy]

Atlanta isnt all that spread out when compared to cities like Chicago, LA and New York. Also traffic is so bad because they dont make multi lane streets in this state. Look at Paulding country. I can think of only 1 road that is multilanes through the entire county and only 2 that have significant portions that are multiple lanes.