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BiH1320
04-12-2008, 05:28 PM
Okay I am pretty sure most of yall pass by his dealership sometimes, idk if yall noticed the 06 Red Type-S he has?
Well he wanted $15.900... And I offered him $14,900 and I said we sign paper's right away.. And he start's getting aggresive saying "You are trying to run me out of business, you dont want me to feed my family" And I am like how am I trying to do that? I am making you an offer on the car.. He goes the car is in excellent condition? I am like.. No it's not.. The wheels are curbed.. There's a big scratch on the quarter panel.. And the right taillight has water in it? He goes well maybe it's because it's been raining cats and dog's yesterday? Im like well this is a 06.. And my dad's 96 Mini Van doesnt have water in his taillights now does he? And he starts cursing saying get the **** off my lot. I am like dont worry. You wont be making business off of me and some of my friend's. And he comes at me saying get the **** off before I punch you.. Yes believe it or not.. The old fart said that.. Then I proceed to my car and he follows me and slams my door really hard.. Thats when I got pissed off and I tried to re-open it.. My window was open and I called him a oldfart.. And he put's his fist right under my nose and says I will ****ing punch you if you dont leave.. And he slams it on my leg.. And thats when I kicked the door open and I get in his face and say ****ing hit me now. And he was about to spit on me and he put his leg up to kick me a few times.. There's a few other **** I probably missed out.. But I will add it. And yes 2 other customer's witnessed this. And he also said he has camera's.. Im like good, then we have you on camera putting youre fist under my nose and slamming my door a few times and all this other crap he did..

And to the other dumbass that work's with him. Keep your god damn mouth shut. I hope both of yall bastard's read this **** you dirty son's of bitches.

And I did come back with the police but they didnt do ****..


VIDEO WILL BE UPLOADED SHORTLY...

Echonova
04-12-2008, 05:31 PM
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/served.jpg

SixSquared
04-12-2008, 05:32 PM
OCHIT!!!!

That's some bull though.

MistaCee
04-12-2008, 05:34 PM
Yea that was dumbass move...

MistaCee
04-12-2008, 05:35 PM
He was an angry old man. Did he look like this?



http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p78/patrick_leavitt/100_0351.jpg

MistaCee
04-12-2008, 05:35 PM
Maybe this

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll40/bezejel/formunk2.jpg

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 05:36 PM
Yea that was dumbass move...


I hope both of them read this.. Ron and his butt buddy "Dean"

It pissed me off that he started getting aggresive and slam my door and put his fist under my nose and threatning to punch me.. and other crap..
I was like wow.


But I wish he would of hit me...
Light's out for that sack of ****.

Kevykev
04-12-2008, 05:37 PM
On Video for realz?

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 05:37 PM
Maybe this






Quit with the picture's.

Julio
04-12-2008, 05:37 PM
We dont believe you , you need more people ! - Jay Z


No video.. dont believe it.

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 05:38 PM
On Video for realz?



Yeah. My friend recorded it.. And he jumped on him and tried to take away from the camera.. And my friend was in the backseat.. And he somehow slapped the camera and thats how it turned off.. But video will be up shortly.

KPowerEP3
04-12-2008, 05:39 PM
video.
must see.

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 05:40 PM
video.
must see.


Once my friend upload's the video.. It will be up here I promise.

Alan®
04-12-2008, 05:41 PM
damn didn't they used to be a sponsor?

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 05:42 PM
damn didn't they used to be a sponsor?




Yeap. I never expected this from him..

Kevykev
04-12-2008, 05:42 PM
yeah this would be in the "Must See" realm!!!


Where is DJ Mark Yurm? (Some will not understand the validity, some will)

Alan®
04-12-2008, 05:44 PM
so where's the vid and who took it

SixSquared
04-12-2008, 05:44 PM
veedee oh!!!!

I can't wait to see this.

And I swear... if I get Rick Roll'd... I will kill someone.

B18c1Turboed
04-12-2008, 05:46 PM
I guess it was this car!
http://ronsautosales.com/filedetails.asp?image=800442006AcuraRSXType-S012web.jpg

Kevykev
04-12-2008, 05:48 PM
I guess it was this car!
http://ronsautosales.com/filedetails.asp?image=800442006AcuraRSXType-S012web.jpg


Options: Type-S, One owner, What else do you want?

Who advertises with phrases like that?

B18c1Turboed
04-12-2008, 05:48 PM
Who advertises with phrases like that?

RONS AUTO SALES!!!

Echonova
04-12-2008, 05:49 PM
You---------------------------------------Ron
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h66/alcorpcar/double-slap.gif

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 05:49 PM
I guess it was this car!
http://ronsautosales.com/filedetails.asp?image=800442006AcuraRSXType-S012web.jpg



Yes thats the car.
I promise the video will be up shortly. Patience patience please!
Someone tell him to read this thread.

Echonova
04-12-2008, 05:50 PM
Patience patience please!
I have none.

Alan®
04-12-2008, 05:51 PM
x2

B18c1Turboed
04-12-2008, 05:52 PM
I just dont belive that the cops wouldnt do anything, espically with a video!

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 05:53 PM
I have none.


Wanna-be Ron.. lol

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 05:54 PM
I just dont belive that the cops wouldnt do anything, espically with a video!



Pigs.

KPowerEP3
04-12-2008, 05:55 PM
I just dont belive that the cops wouldnt do anything, espically with a video!


Meh, it's to much paperwork, plus they'd have to file charges on both parties. By not leaving when asked, that's criminal trespass, and by Ron threatening him, that's terroristic threats.

B18c1Turboed
04-12-2008, 05:55 PM
Go too the police station and swear out a warrant for him, its very easy and you ahve proof.I think that would be funny and make sure you recored it all, when he gets arrested also!

Dietcoke
04-12-2008, 05:58 PM
Ron was my wife's long time soccer coach way back in the day. I coudln't see him doing this, but I guess everyone has their days. No video no care.

RandomGuy
04-12-2008, 05:59 PM
this thread almost delivered

btw if this is a hoax or the video isn't all its hyped up to be, i will neg rep you every time i see you post (as well as everyone i know)
lawl

so just let us know if its a hoax to save yourself the neg repness.

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 06:03 PM
this thread almost delivered

btw if this is a hoax or the video isn't all its hyped up to be, i will neg rep you every time i see you post (as well as everyone i know)
lawl

so just let us know if its a hoax to save yourself the neg repness.


I dont give a fuk about reps. Neg rep me all day if you want. The video is on my friend's camera.. He will upload it once he get's home. He just now left my house.

Echonova
04-12-2008, 06:04 PM
btw if this is a hoax or the video isn't all its hyped up to be, i will neg rep you every time i see you post (as well as everyone i know)
lawl

so just let us know if its a hoax to save yourself the neg repness.x2

Catnip
04-12-2008, 06:06 PM
x2
x3...?

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 06:07 PM
The video doesnt have everything in it.
Wish it did but my friend's camera doesnt record for long. But he recorded it once he tried to hit me.

Echonova
04-12-2008, 06:12 PM
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k237/sandman227/countdown.gif

Dracc
04-12-2008, 06:13 PM
wow.. and to think when Brandon was there Ron was going to hire me

SloWRX
04-12-2008, 06:14 PM
damn didnt know Ron was like that cuz a friend and i went to his lot and he was cool as phuck! we were talking for like 2 hours and he was telling us how he races for charity and everything. guess the gas prices got to him lolol

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 06:15 PM
damn didnt know Ron was like that cuz a friend and i went to his lot and he was cool as phuck! we were talking for like 2 hours and he was telling us how he races for charity and everything. guess the gas prices got to him lolol



My mom asked him whats the lowest price.. He goes ill knock off a $100... I lol'ed at him.

Echonova
04-12-2008, 06:16 PM
Your mom saw it too?

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 06:17 PM
Your mom saw it too?


She was right there...

Dracc
04-12-2008, 06:17 PM
damn didnt know Ron was like that cuz a friend and i went to his lot and he was cool as phuck! we were talking for like 2 hours and he was telling us how he races for charity and everything. guess the gas prices got to him lolol


yeah he was in the paper not to long ago.. and i remember going to a race of his in Gainesville.. he gave me tickets...

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 06:18 PM
yeah he was in the paper not to long ago.. and i remember going to a race of his in Gainesville.. he gave me tickets...




Quit fukin thread jackiin.



Rony Ron, post up...

The_ CaneCorso
04-12-2008, 06:18 PM
wow

Dracc
04-12-2008, 06:19 PM
Quit fukin thread jackiin.



Rony Ron, post up...


who you talking to... I KILL YOU lol.... lol.. RON doesnt post on here cuz.... usually brandon does but he doesnt work for RON.. so that guy Dean or what ever might see this

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 06:21 PM
who you talking to... I KILL YOU lol.... lol.. RON doesnt post on here cuz.... usually brandon does but he doesnt work for RON.. so that guy Dean or what ever might see this


Im pretty sure if that fagg see's it.. He will show it to ron.
And I hope he does.



I just wish he was outside when the police came..
But they didnt let me go inside.

I would of told him slam my door or put ur fist in my face now.

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 06:23 PM
Video will be up in like 2 mins. My friend just got to his house.

x Resilience
04-12-2008, 06:24 PM
Thats very unprofessional, I was wondering why you sounded so sad on the phone :lmfao:, jk.

SloWRX
04-12-2008, 06:24 PM
LOL! i smell RACISM!

Tech5
04-12-2008, 06:24 PM
x4
I have none.

Echonova
04-12-2008, 06:34 PM
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh61/natattack19/waiting.jpg

Tech5
04-12-2008, 06:35 PM
X2
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh61/natattack19/waiting.jpg

Alan®
04-12-2008, 06:36 PM
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh61/natattack19/waiting.jpg
:lmfao: :lmfao:

Echonova
04-12-2008, 06:37 PM
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RandomGuy
04-12-2008, 06:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPosZ1B_hfw cmon man

rizzler
04-12-2008, 06:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPosZ1B_hfw cmon man

LOL :lmfao:

B18c1Turboed
04-12-2008, 06:38 PM
2 mins sure feels like 10 now

x Resilience
04-12-2008, 06:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPosZ1B_hfw cmon man


:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:: lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

B18c1Turboed
04-12-2008, 06:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPosZ1B_hfw cmon man


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA:lmfao:

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 06:40 PM
http://v3.tinypic.com/player.swf?file=2hmox3o&s=3%22%3E%3C/embed%3E

MistaCee
04-12-2008, 06:40 PM
lol randomguy

Tech5
04-12-2008, 06:40 PM
bahahahahhahaaa REPS FOR THAT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPosZ1B_hfw cmon man

MistaCee
04-12-2008, 06:41 PM
http://v3.tinypic.com/player.swf?file=2hmox3o&s=3%22%3E%3C/embed%3E

Judgeing from that vid you should have left

KPowerEP3
04-12-2008, 06:41 PM
Jack Johnson FTW

Tech5
04-12-2008, 06:41 PM
thats it?????????????:thinking:
http://v3.tinypic.com/player.swf?file=2hmox3o&s=3%22%3E%3C/embed%3E

RandomGuy
04-12-2008, 06:41 PM
he came thru,

damn this thread delivers

B18c1Turboed
04-12-2008, 06:42 PM
DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!

MistaCee
04-12-2008, 06:42 PM
he came thru,

damn this thread delivers

lol x2

KPowerEP3
04-12-2008, 06:42 PM
hmmmmmmm....no BS, huh.

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 06:42 PM
Judgeing from that vid you should have left



I wish he could of got the whole thing.
Would of been amazing.

Dietcoke
04-12-2008, 06:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPosZ1B_hfw cmon man

reps :goodjob: :lmfao:

B18c1Turboed
04-12-2008, 06:43 PM
That OLD man PUNKED you!!!

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 06:43 PM
thats it?????????????:thinking:


Wish we could of got the whole thing.. :(

rizzler
04-12-2008, 06:43 PM
gotta rep him for that

wow that was unprofessional.

MistaCee
04-12-2008, 06:44 PM
I wish he could of got the whole thing.
Would of been amazing.

Yea x2 He did grab the camera phone which makes him look suspicious

Vteckidd
04-12-2008, 06:44 PM
haha

Echonova
04-12-2008, 06:44 PM
gotta rep him for that

wow that was unprofessional.X2

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 06:45 PM
Yea x2 He did grab the camera phone which makes him look suspicious



Yeah this was all so unexpected...

If we knew this was coming.. I would of made sure everything was on camera.

SloWRX
04-12-2008, 06:45 PM
way to ruin ur business...

Tech5
04-12-2008, 06:45 PM
BTW I cant even think , that if your selling something why act like that an try an hit someone b/c they want to bargin with the price Hell its 2008 people if your selling something you better mark it up b/c everyone an there little sister are going to try an bargin with the price, this is some what proof of someone that is in dear need of feeding his family , Hell I got some bread an drinks to give RON if he needs it that bad. You never tell any customer when they try an bargin with a price " are you trying to make me go out of bussiness, I got a family too feed" your asking for trouble...If I was you I would take him to court an win you a RSX type S

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 06:46 PM
way to ruin ur business...



If we got everything from the beginning.. Would of been AMAZING.


I'd make sure the video would get everywhere.
So it could ruin his business.

MistaCee
04-12-2008, 06:46 PM
way to ruin ur business...

All over a grand too

Tech5
04-12-2008, 06:46 PM
Now if you was a Female an he did that he would have went to jail, for lots of stuff

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 06:48 PM
Now if you was a Female an he did that he would have went to jail, for lots of stuff



Yeaap.

RandomGuy
04-12-2008, 06:49 PM
you should get a sex change and file charges... get mad $$$ and then become a male again

= 5 year plan for making big bux

Firefightin_tC
04-12-2008, 06:50 PM
Damn link isn't working.

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 06:51 PM
BTW I cant even think , that if your selling something why act like that an try an hit someone b/c they want to bargin with the price Hell its 2008 people if your selling something you better mark it up b/c everyone an there little sister are going to try an bargin with the price, this is some what proof of someone that is in dear need of feeding his family , Hell I got some bread an drinks to give RON if he needs it that bad. You never tell any customer when they try an bargin with a price " are you trying to make me go out of bussiness, I got a family too feed" your asking for trouble...If I was you I would take him to court an win you a RSX type S



His camera's that he has at the lot.. Has EVERYTHING since I got there...
And you can sure see his behavior on them..

He marked the price as excellent condition..
It does look good on the pics.. But go take a look at it in person..
Look at the scratches on it..
The wheels are curbed..

The car is in average condition. Not bad or good.

No fukin car is in perfect condition. Unless it's brand new with 0 Miles..


It's a 06 with 65K Miles................ <<<<<<
Lot's of miles for a 2 yr old car..

x Resilience
04-12-2008, 06:52 PM
BTW I cant even think , that if your selling something why act like that an try an hit someone b/c they want to bargin with the price Hell its 2008 people if your selling something you better mark it up b/c everyone an there little sister are going to try an bargin with the price, this is some what proof of someone that is in dear need of feeding his family , Hell I got some bread an drinks to give RON if he needs it that bad. You never tell any customer when they try an bargin with a price " are you trying to make me go out of bussiness, I got a family too feed" your asking for trouble...If I was you I would take him to court an win you a RSX type S

x2.

MistaCee
04-12-2008, 06:52 PM
His camera's that he has at the lot.. Has EVERYTHING since I got there...
And you can sure see his behavior on them..

He marked the price as excellent condition..
It does look good on the pics.. But go take a look at it in person..
Look at the scratches on it..
The wheels are curbed..

The car is in average condition. Not bad or good.

No fukin car is in perfect condition. Unless it's brand new with 0 Miles..


It's a 06 with 65K Miles................ <<<<<<
Lot's of miles for a 2 yr old car..

Ya just 1000 of wasnt a bad offer... He went about it like you told him half the price and his wife for the nite

RandomGuy
04-12-2008, 06:53 PM
is that all you have? your little fagg0t bosnian friend said he was recording also ?

Alan®
04-12-2008, 06:54 PM
damn thats ****in nuts

Echonova
04-12-2008, 06:54 PM
It's a 06 with 65K Miles................ <<<<<<

Lot's of miles for a 2 yr old car..What else do you want???

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 06:57 PM
is that all you have? your little fagg0t bosnian friend said he was recording also ?


theres more on his cam.

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 06:58 PM
What else do you want???



BWHAHAHA

Kevykev
04-12-2008, 06:59 PM
Wow, that got ugly!

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 07:01 PM
Wow, that got ugly!



Yeah and I want everyone to see what kinda salesman he is..

MongolPup
04-12-2008, 07:04 PM
He isn't going to give you the footage off of his camera out of the goodness of his heart. He probably already erased or wrote over the tape(s).

Not great PR in the age of the internet.

B18c1Turboed
04-12-2008, 07:05 PM
theres more on his cam.

Go back up there and ask him if you can borrow it! better yet tell him too upload it on youtube for us!! We dont belive you

RandomGuy
04-12-2008, 07:06 PM
this thread needs more lulz

plz contribute

redpanda
04-12-2008, 07:06 PM
damn, I was interested in a car there..**** it

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 07:08 PM
He isn't going to give you the footage off of his camera out of the goodness of his heart. He probably already erased or wrote over the tape(s).

Not great PR in the age of the internet.




He's a old selfish bastard..

Ohh and also.. Long time ago when I had my Honda Accord.. BRANDON tried to rip me off big time.. He tried to get me to trade it for a "sports car" a Acura Integra.. That has a flood salvage title.. And he goes "Yeah I know if youre parent's knew if it was, they wouldnt trade.. So dont tell them anything."

The_ CaneCorso
04-12-2008, 07:10 PM
Ya just 1000 of wasnt a bad offer... He went about it like you told him half the price and his wife for the nite

hahahahah

SixSquared
04-12-2008, 07:15 PM
this thread needs more lulz

plz contribute

POST OF THE MOTHERFVCKING YEAR!!!!

SixSquared
04-12-2008, 07:16 PM
Can I go up there tomorrow and offer him $14,900 for it with an undercover camera and see how he treats me since I'm a girl?

rizzler
04-12-2008, 07:17 PM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to RandomGuy again.

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 07:18 PM
Can I go up there tomorrow and offer him $14,900 for it with an undercover camera and see how he treats me since I'm a girl?



Do what you want.

He said he was offered $15.500
And his price is $15,995 I believe.. And he turned down the offer.



I SMELL BS THOUGH.

SixSquared
04-12-2008, 07:20 PM
hmmm..... I'll see how bored I am next week and I might go up there. If nothing else, it would see if he was just being an ass to you or if he's like that to everyone. If he just did it to you, then you might have a case or something.. especially if I go up there, say 14,9 and let's sign papers, and he says ok.

MistaCee
04-12-2008, 07:22 PM
this thread needs more lulz

plz contribute

Lmfao:lmfao:

The_ CaneCorso
04-12-2008, 07:23 PM
Can I go up there tomorrow and offer him $14,900 for it with an undercover camera and see how he treats me since I'm a girl?

Doesnt count since you like girls...

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 07:23 PM
hmmm..... I'll see how bored I am next week and I might go up there. If nothing else, it would see if he was just being an ass to you or if he's like that to everyone. If he just did it to you, then you might have a case or something.. especially if I go up there, say 14,9 and let's sign papers, and he says ok.




Get it on cam.
And while we were arguing by my car.. Some lady went to the rsx and was looking at it.
I yelled at her and said "dont look at that car it's a piece of ****"

SixSquared
04-12-2008, 07:27 PM
If I go I'll bring an amigo and a cam with me. I'll PM ya

BlkCD5
04-12-2008, 07:28 PM
You tend to see the true side of people when times get hard.

silversol
04-12-2008, 07:32 PM
Hmm i would like to hear rons side of the story. its inexcusable to push a customer like that! but you should have just left when he asked you to leave. but if you offered him 1k less on 16k car it not like you lowballed him. but if what you are saying is 100% true thats inexcusable! but i would still liek to hear rons side!

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 07:33 PM
You tend to see the true side of people when times get hard.


x99999999

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 07:34 PM
BBQ time. bbl ladies

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 07:36 PM
that man made you look like a:



Chill the **** out.

1000cckiller
04-12-2008, 07:38 PM
Chill the **** out. :no: and STFU

Echonova
04-12-2008, 07:41 PM
:no: and STFUhttp://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/Owned/Motorcycle_hits_carback.gif

1000cckiller
04-12-2008, 07:43 PM
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/Owned/Motorcycle_hits_carback.gif :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

The Ninja
04-12-2008, 07:51 PM
Hmm....Epic thread in my Whoreslounge?

B16a2 Civic
04-12-2008, 07:51 PM
Lmaoooo
That's some customer servive for dat ass

Echonova
04-12-2008, 07:52 PM
Hmm....Epic thread in my Whoreslounge?Until that post.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/Owned/so4gpk.gif

The Ninja
04-12-2008, 07:52 PM
Lmaoooo
That's some customer servive for dat ass

He's gonna customer service his foot into your face, you better watch out.

The Ninja
04-12-2008, 07:53 PM
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii45/shah_ipoh/finger2.gif

(To Echo)

Echonova
04-12-2008, 07:55 PM
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm59/spike_dracul/role/NINJA.jpg

The Ninja
04-12-2008, 07:57 PM
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm59/spike_dracul/role/NINJA.jpg

You're got damn right I'll kick you. Now, we'll let this Thread resume its dramatic status. We can do this another time Echo...don't let your infaguation cloud this thread with fail. :lmfao:

Echonova
04-12-2008, 07:58 PM
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The Ninja
04-12-2008, 08:00 PM
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/witness-this-epic-thread.gif

Check your reps. :goodjob:

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 08:00 PM
Cut it out.

Brandon is here.. His ex-employer..
Let's see what he has to say.

The Ninja
04-12-2008, 08:01 PM
Cut it out.

Brandon is here.. His ex-employer..
Let's see what he has to say.

Nani itte n da yo?!

BiH1320
04-12-2008, 08:02 PM
Nani itte n da yo?!



I dont speak Ninja language.

Echonova
04-12-2008, 08:02 PM
Check your reps. :goodjob:Ditto

The Ninja
04-12-2008, 08:02 PM
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The Ninja
04-12-2008, 08:03 PM
Ditto

OMG Hoof chick....


*fap fap fap fap*

RandomGuy
04-12-2008, 08:05 PM
lets not whore, let teh photoshops begin... this isn't quite epic yet, but its epic thread worthy

DecoyOctopus
04-12-2008, 08:07 PM
hahah yo i rode by yall i know you saw me, MY GUT WAS TELLING ME TO PULL IN BUT I WAS TIRED AS BALLZ...oh yea and screw ron, he had a swapped si up there before and he got mad cuz i pointed out taht it was swapped since the vin diddnt mach the one on the motor and it had drums in the back, he said get a real car then talk to me...im like are you serious. then whoever had the car before him painted the valve cover red(poorly) and he was like yea thats a type r valve cover im like then why the hell is the red flaking off and revealing black? he said my son has been workin on these cars all his life ill beleive him over you, i was just like ok whatever you say buddy youre not gonna get any power from a valve cover so you shouldnt just put that out there he got mad and closed the hood. RON IS ON ROIDZ

TonyStark007
04-12-2008, 08:08 PM
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=142395&stc=1

....now thats advertisement....

The Ninja
04-12-2008, 08:09 PM
Too lazy to shop...someone Shop a Ron Roid Rage pic.....

Brandon C
04-12-2008, 08:16 PM
OK Since my name was brought up in this and I know both people involved and have talked with Ron himself which admits he was not right to yell at the kid. I love the way you paint this as I offered you a 1000 less **** and your all inocent. You have been coming by there for years Bashing his cars and trying to get them for less. He was always pleasant to you. Man Times is tough in the car biz these days a 1000 mark up is about all that is there. Ron Sponsered this site for a very long time and I can TELL YOU FROM EXPERIANCE THAT THIS KID IS FULL OF **** AND HAS BEEN COMING BY RON'S FOR YEARS TRYING TO GET SOMETHING FOR NOTHING BY BASHING RON'S CARS. ALSO THE SO CALLED ACCORD HE WAS TRADING IN WAS HIS MOMMY'S CAR WHICH SHE NEVER SAID HE COULD TRADE AND HE WANTED A CAR THAT WAS NOT EVEN RON'S-HE PICKED THE FLOOD DAMAGE CAR OUT THAT WAS THERE FOR SERVICE. I realy dont care about who you are kid. Plus the reason the police did nothing was because there were other customers there who witnesed your behavior and Ron's Actions which he was just verbal with a very RUDE AS **** Customer. Thats why the 4 different Police cars that you brought back acusing Ron of Punching you in the face did nothing. I am so sick of you kids who think that you can be rude to Hard working Folk and it's there fault for speaking up. Do You have any clue the guy that you pushed to anger Gives over 30% of his personal Income and 75% of his time to Raising Money for Children In Need. Wow this guy is a real ass. You are such a Tard You went to try and Beat down a Vehicle so you could attempt to get a better deal in which you where Rude first. Hey how come your not mentioning the white Accord Your Parents bought from Ron. Was that a Rip off To.

STOP BEING A BABY AND TRYING TO BASH GOOD PEOPLE.
GOOD DAY SIR..

To those that no Ron and what he stands for please let others know as Asshats like this are Very Bad for our Community which they are takers and when they cant get there way well you se how they act!


JUlio is Ron not a Sponser Still????

Echonova
04-12-2008, 08:16 PM
Write a review...
http://local.yahoo.com/details?id=13588145

Alan®
04-12-2008, 08:21 PM
OK Since my name was brought up in this and I know both people involved and have talked with Ron himself which admits he was not right to yell at the kid. I love the way you paint this as I offered you a 1000 less **** and your all inocent. You have been coming by there for years Bashing his cars and trying to get them for less. He was always pleasant to you. Man Times is tough in the car biz these days a 1000 mark up is about all that is there. Ron Sponsered this site for a very long time and I can TELL YOU FROM EXPERIANCE THAT THIS KID IS FULL OF **** AND HAS BEEN COMING BY RON'S FOR YEARS TRYING TO GET SOMETHING FOR NOTHING BY BASHING RON'S CARS. ALSO THE SO CALLED ACCORD HE WAS TRADING IN WAS HIS MOMMY'S CAR WHICH SHE NEVER SAID HE COULD TRADE AND HE WANTED A CAR THAT WAS NOT EVEN RON'S-HE PICKED THE FLOOD DAMAGE CAR OUT THAT WAS THERE FOR SERVICE. I realy dont care about who you are kid. Plus the reason the police did nothing was because there were other customers there who witnesed your behavior and Ron's Actions which he was just verbal with a very RUDE AS **** Customer. Thats why the 4 different Police cars that you brought back acusing Ron of Punching you in the face did nothing. I am so sick of you kids who think that you can be rude to Hard working Folk and it's there fault for speaking up. Do You have any clue the guy that you pushed to anger Gives over 30% of his personal Income and 75% of his time to Raising Money for Children In Need. Wow this guy is a real ass. You are such a Tard You went to try and Beat down a Vehicle so you could attempt to get a better deal in which you where Rude first. Hey how come your not mentioning the white Accord Your Parents bought from Ron. Was that a Rip off To.

STOP BEING A BABY AND TRYING TO BASH GOOD PEOPLE.
GOOD DAY SIR..

To those that no Ron and what he stands for please let others know as Asshats like this are Very Bad for our Community which they are takers and when they cant get there way well you se how they act!


JUlio is Ron not a Sponser Still????

This post is so un intelligent it made me lol. From what I got out of it though, it still doesn't justify the man's actions. Also the police not doing anything doesn't prove anything. A lot of times if they have two conflicing stories they just get whoever isn't supposed to be there to leave and never even file a report of being there.

DecoyOctopus
04-12-2008, 08:23 PM
damn man that dude be helpin kids n stuff...

The Ninja
04-12-2008, 08:26 PM
I like Ron. He helps kids and doesn't afraid of anything.

Tech5
04-12-2008, 08:26 PM
who cares..just because he gives money for kids doesnt mean he is a good guy, HELL Michael Jackson donated money for the kids does that make him a good guy ?
damn man that dude be helpin kids n stuff...

Brandon C
04-12-2008, 08:27 PM
This post is so un intelligent it made me lol. From what I got out of it though, it still doesn't justify the man's actions. Also the police not doing anything doesn't prove anything. A lot of times if they have two conflicing stories they just get whoever isn't supposed to be there to leave and never even file a report of being there.


My bad I am Typing with a 9 month old on my lap and trying to make a coherent thought.

I agree that Neither party sounds right I was not there but I have Delt with the kid Posting this up. Hell I know Most of you on here. I just called Ron back which he told me was that he did not blow up until this kid started yelling at the other customer's when his offer was turned down that Ron was a Cheat and a Thief to other people at the dealership. That is what set Ron off and the reason he asked him to leave. Ron's Auto is Small Buisness and when you have someone on your lot yelling at others which is what Ron has stated happened (again I was not there) but that would make me a little more eager to tell someone off.

Brandon C
04-12-2008, 08:29 PM
who cares..just because he gives money for kids doesnt mean he is a good guy, HELL Michael Jackson donated money for the kids does that make him a good guy ?


Go and meet the man yourself dont take some kids word for it over the internet. He raises money for kids and sponsers children events because he wants to not for recognition.

Echonova
04-12-2008, 08:29 PM
who cares..just because he gives money for kids doesnt mean he is a good guy, HELL Michael Jackson donated money for the kids tois he a good guy ?Yes.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/l_e5607eda677677a8e861d651651b6015.jpg

Catnip
04-12-2008, 08:30 PM
All this is making me laugh.

As the unintelligent people in this thread would say, " ims laffing At aw dis lolzers haha"

silversol
04-12-2008, 08:30 PM
My bad I am Typing with a 9 month old on my lap and trying to make a coherent thought.

I agree that Neither party sounds right I was not there but I have Delt with the kid Posting this up. Hell I know Most of you on here. I just called Ron back which he told me was that he did not blow up until this kid started yelling at the other customer's when his offer was turned down that Ron was a Cheat and a Thief to other people at the dealership. That is what set Ron off and the reason he asked him to leave. Ron's Auto is Small Buisness and when you have someone on your lot yelling at others which is what Ron has stated happened (again I was not there) but that would make me a little more eager to tell someone off.
wow!!! i would have told him off too! if he was yelling at customers like that!

Catnip
04-12-2008, 08:32 PM
wow!!! i would have told him off too! if he was yelling at customers like that!

hey! those exclamation points are annoying! ok! see! ok! just letting you know!

DecoyOctopus
04-12-2008, 08:33 PM
who cares..just because he gives money for kids doesnt mean he is a good guy, HELL Michael Jackson donated money for the kids does that make him a good guy ? No mike is a perv, but i dont hear about ron trying to sleep with kids so he has my support. RON IM SORRY BROUGHAM, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, i like the rsx:goodjob:

Tech5
04-12-2008, 08:33 PM
I am not saying Ron or the kid is at fault I do think they both had a heated moment an could been handle better....But Ron as a owner needs to watch how he talks to people even if the kid was yelling or what ever Ron had no right to act the way he did an tried to show who has the bigger balls....If I was Ron I would just call the Cops an never raised my voice End of story ROn was Wrong an the Kid...BTW at the end of the day Ron didnt make any money nor did the kid get a new car....So was it all worth it? I say no

RandomGuy
04-12-2008, 08:34 PM
A recap of what happened

http://www.g54b.com/random/falconpunch.gif


lulz

Dracc
04-12-2008, 08:36 PM
wow brandon posted up..


I've meet Brandon and Ron.. hell i was almost an employee.... to Ron.. stand up guy.. donates alot to charity and does alot that goes unseen.. but.. what i gathered from my short days up there talking and interviewing.. words get exchanged.. now I have been in the car buisness and I can tell you it gets heat. I myself have been in verbal altercations with the owner of the dealership over a matter that had nothing to do with me. Tempers class but that comes with the territory. Now Ron seemed like a great boss but if you crossed him or get out of line you'll know.. I was told so by Brandon that do as you are told and do as you say.. something along the lines of that..


to me both sides seem to be in the wrong.. one Ron got mad which seems to me he was angry over Amir bashing his company with valuble customers on the lot which I could understand.. Prospects are hard to come by on a "dirt Lot" espically now a days.. and word of mouth travels fast as hell now a days... this whole blow up and thread could hurt Ron seriously and may result in closing of his buisness..


i still think its more to this but i just want to hear it from RON himself.

DecoyOctopus
04-12-2008, 08:37 PM
I am not saying Ron or the kid is at fault I do think they both had a heated moment an could been handle better....But Ron as a owner needs to watch how he talks to people even if the kid was yelling or what ever Ron had no right to act the way he did an tried to show who has the bigger balls....If I was Ron I would just call the Cops an never raised my voice End of story ROn was Wrong an the Kid...BTW at the end of the day Ron didnt make any money nor did the kid get a new car....So was it all worth it? I say no yea but maybe some sexy chicks were watching, in wich case the male with the larger ballz gets the puss so their actions would have been justifyable(spelling?). two fertile males in heat = conflict

Catnip
04-12-2008, 08:39 PM
oh man, so many reps to give over this.

Echonova
04-12-2008, 08:40 PM
I wish I could rep Randomguy again.

DecoyOctopus
04-12-2008, 08:40 PM
A recap of what happened

http://www.g54b.com/random/falconpunch.gif


lulz hahahahahahahahahahahah

silversol
04-12-2008, 08:40 PM
wow brandon posted up..


I've meet Brandon and Ron.. hell i was almost an employee.... to Ron.. stand up guy.. donates alot to charity and does alot that goes unseen.. but.. what i gathered from my short days up there talking and interviewing.. words get exchanged.. now I have been in the car buisness and I can tell you it gets heat. I myself have been in verbal altercations with the owner of the dealership over a matter that had nothing to do with me. Tempers class but that comes with the territory. Now Ron seemed like a great boss but if you crossed him or get out of line you'll know.. I was told so by Brandon that do as you are told and do as you say.. something along the lines of that..


to me both sides seem to be in the wrong.. one Ron got mad which seems to me he was angry over Amir bashing his company with valuble customers on the lot which I could understand.. Prospects are hard to come by on a "dirt Lot" espically now a days.. and word of mouth travels fast as hell now a days... this whole blow up and thread could hurt Ron seriously and may result in closing of his buisness..


i still think its more to this but i just want to hear it from RON himself.
best post in this thread! :goodjob:

BABY J
04-12-2008, 08:40 PM
A recap of what happened

http://www.g54b.com/random/falconpunch.gif


lulz

LMAO!

DecoyOctopus
04-12-2008, 08:45 PM
oh yes quickdodge is here, i can feel it he is about to say somehthing hilarious...ok im ready

BABY J
04-12-2008, 08:46 PM
Ron agreed to the terms initially (per the post) --- or there would be no contract being presented. THEN he starts to "barter" and try to get a diff amount on the contract. Typical salesman sh*t if u ask me --> he agreed to the price to get the kid in there, and then wanted to hustle him to get what's on the sticker. It's a f*cking CAR --- who pays what's on the sticker? Ron buys cars WHOLESALE --- or through many other dealership tricks to get cars (auction, consignment, repo, etc.) every1 knows that, and guarantee you that he is not into that car for 15,900 or anywhere close. A REAL salesman would have said "well I can fix the taillight for you, and get a professional buff on the car" ($250 light, $50 buff) and still be in the clear... or offer 10 oil changes ($200)... ANYTHING other than piss a customer off and let him leave the lot --- ESPECIALLY one that was there to sign on the line. Who cares if "joe schmo" has a bad rep, he's not selling cars. As the business u need to be professional and at all times. If 14,9 wasn't acceptible then he shouldn't have called the kid back into the shop. All I gotta say is call the BBB.

Brandon C
04-12-2008, 08:47 PM
Agreed if Ron knew how to access the thread he would. Also He has stated he will gladly post the whole Video for the 8 Different camers but due to Privacy Laws he can not.

Oh Yeah Dracc. The Other Customers Bought a Car also The Kids Mom saw the whole thing for the passenger seat of his car. What Ron has said is the video taken was shot after He was Bated and Bagered for some time and what I saw was Dean who was on the Phone with the Police in the Background. Oh Well Anither Day in Gwinnett

Guys I am Going to bed I dont work from Ron but I did. In the End it really doesnt matter because no 2 transactions are ever the same. Why either person feels the need to talk trash at this point is beyond me. I almost never post here anymore due to I am very Busy, But I will leave on this Note I will Pray tonight for Ron and This Kid to find some peace in there heart.

1SICKLEX
04-12-2008, 08:48 PM
LMFAO AT RANDOM GUY!!!!

And sorry but the first post would NOT prevent me from buying from the guy. No offense but so many people try to get attention here or would START SOME CRAP, just to be able to COME HERE to make a story of it.

I need both sides to the story, though its really a lose/lose for Ron as a business CANNOT win on the internet. No way.

Brandon C
04-12-2008, 08:51 PM
Ron agreed to the terms initially (per the post) --- or there would be no contract being presented. THEN he starts to "barter" and try to get a diff amount on the contract. Typical salesman sh*t if u ask me --> he agreed to the price to get the kid in there, and then wanted to hustle him to get what's on the sticker. It's a f*cking CAR --- who pays what's on the sticker? Ron buys cars WHOLESALE --- or through many other dealership tricks to get cars (auction, consignment, repo, etc.) every1 knows that, and guarantee you that he is not into that car for 15,900 or anywhere close. A REAL salesman would have said "well I can fix the taillight for you, and get a professional buff on the car" ($250 light, $50 buff) and still be in the clear... or offer 10 oil changes ($200)... ANYTHING other than piss a customer off and let him leave the lot --- ESPECIALLY one that was there to sign on the line. Who cares if "joe schmo" has a bad rep, he's not selling cars. As the business u need to be professional and all times. If 14,9 wasn't acceptible then he shouldn't have called the kid back into the shop. All I gotta say is call the BBB.


real quick- there was no deal. the kid offered him on site money for a car and when told no, he started yelling at other customers that the dealer was a cheat. Ron did not try and hustle him. he was trying to make a living and how do we know he did not offer to fix said problems. to many holes in this story

And Carmax does not negotiate prises but there ok right?

DecoyOctopus
04-12-2008, 08:53 PM
yea but carmax advertizes the fact that they wont change the price

Dracc
04-12-2008, 08:59 PM
the only thing i see wrong from my view being in the car buisness before is the fact RON marked the car up 1k from the buying price... Most dealers and even when i bought cars for pulliam ford.. a dealers main goal is to make money. 1k with his own lot and employees is not enough to pay everyone. Now my thing is did Ron actually mark it up 1k or have plans to sell it for 15.9 and with GA tax and tags be out the door with 16.7.. or is he just realy trying to pass on the deals like a so called " wholesale car lot"

BABY J
04-12-2008, 08:59 PM
real quick- there was no deal. the kid offered him on site money for a car and when told no, he started yelling at other customers that the dealer was a cheat. Ron did not try and hustle him. he was trying to make a living and how do we know he did not offer to fix said problems. to many holes in this story



And Carmax does not negotiate prises but there ok right?





OK Since my name was brought up in this and I know both people involved and have talked with Ron himself which admits he was not right to yell at the kid. I love the way you paint this as I offered you a 1000 less **** and your all inocent. You have been coming by there for years Bashing his cars and trying to get them for less. He was always pleasant to you. Man Times is tough in the car biz these days a 1000 mark up is about all that is there. Ron Sponsered this site for a very long time and I can TELL YOU FROM EXPERIANCE THAT THIS KID IS FULL OF **** AND HAS BEEN COMING BY RON'S FOR YEARS TRYING TO GET SOMETHING FOR NOTHING BY BASHING RON'S CARS. ALSO THE SO CALLED ACCORD HE WAS TRADING IN WAS HIS MOMMY'S CAR WHICH SHE NEVER SAID HE COULD TRADE AND HE WANTED A CAR THAT WAS NOT EVEN RON'S-HE PICKED THE FLOOD DAMAGE CAR OUT THAT WAS THERE FOR SERVICE. I realy dont care about who you are kid. Plus the reason the police did nothing was because there were other customers there who witnesed your behavior and Ron's Actions which he was just verbal with a very RUDE AS **** Customer. Thats why the 4 different Police cars that you brought back acusing Ron of Punching you in the face did nothing. I am so sick of you kids who think that you can be rude to Hard working Folk and it's there fault for speaking up. Do You have any clue the guy that you pushed to anger Gives over 30% of his personal Income and 75% of his time to Raising Money for Children In Need. Wow this guy is a real ass. You are such a Tard You went to try and Beat down a Vehicle so you could attempt to get a better deal in which you where Rude first. Hey how come your not mentioning the white Accord Your Parents bought from Ron. Was that a Rip off To.



STOP BEING A BABY AND TRYING TO BASH GOOD PEOPLE.

GOOD DAY SIR..

To those that no Ron and what he stands for please let others know as Asshats like this are Very Bad for our Community which they are takers and when they cant get there way well you se how they act!

JUlio is Ron not a Sponser Still????


Maybe he should take care of home 1st and he won't have to be a d*ck to customers? :thinking:

DecoyOctopus
04-12-2008, 09:01 PM
Maybe he should take care of home 1st and he won't have to be a d*ck to customers? :thinking:
good point

Brandon C
04-12-2008, 09:02 PM
But Ok so lets see

http://www.ronsautosales.com/filedetails.asp?image=800442006AcuraRSXType-S012web.jpg

Ron's Car:
2006 Acura Rsx Type S with 65k Miles for $15,995



http://www.carmax.com/dyn/factsheet/factsheet.aspx?KNo=4
Carmax:
2005 Acura RSX Type S w/ 42 K for $18,147

Yeah Ron's really trying to rip people off..
A year newer but more mile still $2152 below Car Max on the same Car...


Sorry not trying to argue just really hate Carmax..

Also:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/searchresults.jsp?num_records=&search_lang=en&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&search_type=both&distance=100&address=30045&marketZipError=false&style_flag=1&make=ACURA&model=RSX&make2=&model2=&make3=&model3=&start_year=2006&end_year=2006&min_price=&max_price=&transmission=Manual&engine=&drive=&doors=&fuel=&max_mileage=&color=&color2=&color3=&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&keywords_display=Type+S&sort_type=priceDESC&body_code=0&certified=&advanced=&default_sort=priceDESC&awsp=false&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&systime=

7 Type S models in 100 Miles and Ron's was the cheapest....

He was not wrong for saying no in my book. Come on Scratches and Curb Rash...Thats just excuse's to me. Where Did the offer come from because to Me in which I do work for another dealer, Ron is priced the best in town.

Lets turn this converstation into what should a car dealer do to better not have these types of problems, besides just give everything away?

Catnip
04-12-2008, 09:03 PM
yeah, if you can give 30% of his personal income, then you aren't struggling.

Catnip
04-12-2008, 09:05 PM
Come on Scratches and Curb Rash...Thats just excuse's to me.

I don't see what's wrong with pointing out scratches and screwed up wheels when the car was advertised as perfect.

DecoyOctopus
04-12-2008, 09:07 PM
I don't see what's wrong with pointing out scratches and screwed up wheels when the car was advertised as perfect.another good point

Brandon C
04-12-2008, 09:09 PM
Maybe he should take care of home 1st and he won't have to be a d*ck to customers? :thinking:


If I am a **** to you at your work place and cause a Scene how would you act.

His Family life is fine he raised 3 daughters and is a Grandfather of 7 Kids and been maried for over 30 years whats your longest commitment. I want to call you names and belittle your integrity will you still be cheerfull to me. Do you build your buisness from nothing to have a 21 year old kid call you a thief? I wish we could see all sides maybe the kid believe he was being ripped off but that is no way to act. I agree Ron Should not have raised his voice and yelled back but He was heated and very disrespected. I have had Customer Scream at me before it is tough. I have seen owners of MAJOR dealerships get in Fist fights with people. It Happens. BUt really man you just are bashing now, the mans Family life is probably better than most of ours.

Brandon C
04-12-2008, 09:10 PM
I don't see what's wrong with pointing out scratches and screwed up wheels when the car was advertised as perfect.


Here is The AD. Where was Perfect Advertised I have been searching for a minute and cannot find that anywhere.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=242117630&dealer_id=45253533&car_year=2006&model=RSX&num_records=&systime=&make3=&make2=&start_year=2006&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=100&marketZipError=false&model3=&color3=&model2=&color2=&search_lang=en&make=ACURA&keywords_display=Type+S&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=30045&advanced=&end_year=2006&doors=&transmission=Manual&max_price=&cardist=1

Echonova
04-12-2008, 09:11 PM
This is why I pay cash for my cars.

Echonova
04-12-2008, 09:14 PM
I have seen owners of MAJOR dealerships get in Fist fights with people. LOL, I've saw it happen at Jasper Jeep yyeeeaarss ago.

Dracc
04-12-2008, 09:15 PM
I don't see what's wrong with pointing out scratches and screwed up wheels when the car was advertised as perfect.

thats a great point.. and brandon has to look at it from two ways.. 1st the dealers way.. we sell cars for as much as we think they are worth and push out price or close to our "close out" that we want to come out on top on the back end to make our money

Now with that said the customer pointing out scratches we dont care as a salesmen, we have instilled in our minds what we want to sell this car for and thats final

but when we take a trade in.. we dont give the customer what they want for there trade.. we noticed every little ding scratch and flaw on the "walk around" when we appraise the vehicle dropping the price as we go around the car and do a Visual inspection. * note all dealerships do this dirt lot or "big wig" dealerships" before they give you an actual price.

so if a customer has a trade in a wants 8k firm for the trade in because they owe 7k and want to make 1k off of it. Should the dealer blow up and call the customer a cheat infront of his family and friends?

if a dealer has a car for sale for 15.9k and was offered 14.9k for it should the dealer get insulted and go off on the custmer for giving him a price.

there is no law stating a man can not come on to property public nor private that is considered an establishment trade, saying they can not haggle pricing for furniture, food, or in this case vehicles. both sides seem to be wrong but Rons side seems to be by far the worst..

Brandon C
04-12-2008, 09:20 PM
thats a great point.. and brandon has to look at it from two ways.. 1st the dealers way.. we sell cars for as much as we think they are worth and push out price or close to our "close out" that we want to come out on top on the back end to make our money

Now with that said the customer pointing out scratches we dont care as a salesmen, we have instilled in our minds what we want to sell this car for and thats final

but when we take a trade in.. we dont give the customer what they want for there trade.. we noticed every little ding scratch and flaw on the "walk around" when we appraise the vehicle dropping the price as we go around the car and do a Visual inspection. * note all dealerships do this dirt lot or "big wig" dealerships" before they give you an actual price.

so if a customer has a trade in a wants 8k firm for the trade in because they owe 7k and want to make 1k off of it. Should the dealer blow up and call the customer a cheat infront of his family and friends?

if a dealer has a car for sale for 15.9k and was offered 14.9k for it should the dealer get insulted and go off on the custmer for giving him a price.

there is no law stating a man can not come on to property public nor private that is considered an establishment trade, saying they can not haggle pricing for furniture, food, or in this case vehicles. both sides seem to be wrong but Rons side seems to be by far the worst..


I am Confused! I agreed with you up to that point. Are you saying Ron was in the wrong for telling the Guy to leave or getting upset or was the kid in the wrong. We really dont know the entire story here. I jumped early on the Kid but I can tell you that Ron generaly does not get upset enough to act like he described and I have Pissed him off plenty in my life. I am sorry I am tired and really would have not had to see this today after the day I had. I say win the argument Lose the sale never works for anybody customer of Dealership.

quickdodge®
04-12-2008, 09:21 PM
thats a great point.. and brandon has to look at it from two ways.. 1st the dealers way.. we sell cars for as much as we think they are worth and push out price or close to our "close out" that we want to come out on top on the back end to make our money

Now with that said the customer pointing out scratches we dont care as a salesmen, we have instilled in our minds what we want to sell this car for and thats final

but when we take a trade in.. we dont give the customer what they want for there trade.. we noticed every little ding scratch and flaw on the "walk around" when we appraise the vehicle dropping the price as we go around the car and do a Visual inspection. * note all dealerships do this dirt lot or "big wig" dealerships" before they give you an actual price.

so if a customer has a trade in a wants 8k firm for the trade in because they owe 7k and want to make 1k off of it. Should the dealer blow up and call the customer a cheat infront of his family and friends?

if a dealer has a car for sale for 15.9k and was offered 14.9k for it should the dealer get insulted and go off on the custmer for giving him a price.

there is no law stating a man can not come on to property public nor private that is considered an establishment trade, saying they can not haggle pricing for furniture, food, or in this case vehicles. both sides seem to be wrong but Rons side seems to be by far the worst..

You keep saying "we." Who is "we?" Later, QD.

Dracc
04-12-2008, 09:21 PM
If I am a **** to you at your work place and cause a Scene how would you act.

His Family life is fine he raised 3 daughters and is a Grandfather of 7 Kids and been maried for over 30 years whats your longest commitment. I want to call you names and belittle your integrity will you still be cheerfull to me. Do you build your buisness from nothing to have a 21 year old kid call you a thief? I wish we could see all sides maybe the kid believe he was being ripped off but that is no way to act. I agree Ron Should not have raised his voice and yelled back but He was heated and very disrespected. I have had Customer Scream at me before it is tough. I have seen owners of MAJOR dealerships get in Fist fights with people. It Happens. BUt really man you just are bashing now, the mans Family life is probably better than most of ours.


You should know brandon.. in this buisness.. Name calling comes with the territory. I was called a ****er before when an older white gentleman wanted a 2007 Ford F250 King Ranch for 40k even. The list price was 60k and even the employee pricing for it was still 49k. He called me a ****er and proceeded to tell my GM that I hassled him to come to the dealership told him I could get the truck for him for his price and that I promised him a full tank of gas for the 2 hour drive he endured. Mind you that day was the first time I ever spoke with that man. I've been called alot of things at some of the jobs I've had but that does not mean blow up and have an altercation with someone over it. Even if Ron blew off steam in this he still has to come back to HIS building with HIS name on it with HIS employees there and coop with the actions that have taken place over a price that probably could have been talked through to both parties satisfaction. Ron is still a great guy in my book but his name will be forever tainted in the realm of import atlanta, no matter how old this thread gets, there is always a Search button

Dracc
04-12-2008, 09:23 PM
I am Confused! I agreed with you up to that point. Are you saying Ron was in the wrong for telling the Guy to leave or getting upset or was the kid in the wrong. We really dont know the entire story here. I jumped early on the Kid but I can tell you that Ron generaly does not get upset enough to act like he described and I have Pissed him off plenty in my life. I am sorry I am tired and really would have not had to see this today after the day I had. I say win the argument Lose the sale never works for anybody customer of Dealership.


in the video ron actualy got Phsyical and tried to take the camera from what it looks like. If the kid who was taping wanted to, he could charge Ron with simple assault and personal property damage. Ron never had a right to touch the camera even though his establishment is private property

Dracc
04-12-2008, 09:25 PM
You keep saying "we." Who is "we?" Later, QD.

I used to be a dealer and a floor manager for a major dealership in columbia, Pulliam Ford before i moved here. Basically talking as if I were still selling cars to let people know I was once in this position as a saleman dizzle.

Catnip
04-12-2008, 09:27 PM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g146/84_318i/ronsautomotivator.jpg

Brandon C
04-12-2008, 09:27 PM
Well I still say that this was not over a Price that this was something that Had been brewing for a few years with this young gentleman. I agree his name will be tarnished but do you honestly thing that anyone would not go there if he had a car advertised for a price that was a deal. No matter how good a deal is customers always want something better. Could it be handled better yes but I can tell you that if someone was yelling at other customers on my lot I woul probably had the arested for there behavior but Ron is old school why call the cops that is what Little Boys do as in this case. But no seriously I agree with you there are a hats that look for cars and act this way. The problem is our society does not respect each other!!!!!!!!!!!!

1SICKLEX
04-12-2008, 09:29 PM
One of Bob Lutz's rules is "The customer is NOT always right"

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FWH/is_/ai_59282155

To the OP, did you have cash to buy the car if he dropped the price? Were you GOING to buy this car? Did you have financing in place? Or were you going to waste even MORE time trying to get financed with 0 down and awful credit?

BKgen®
04-12-2008, 09:30 PM
RICK CASE FTW LOL

DecoyOctopus
04-12-2008, 09:30 PM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g146/84_318i/ronsautomotivator.jpghahahahahahahahaha:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

Catnip
04-12-2008, 09:31 PM
But no seriously I agree with you there are a hats that look for cars and act this way. The problem is our society does not respect each other!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's not disrepectful to tell someone you feel their car isn't worth what they are asking and counter offer a reasonable asking price...

Brandon C
04-12-2008, 09:31 PM
in the video ron actualy got Phsyical and tried to take the camera from what it looks like. If the kid who was taping wanted to, he could charge Ron with simple assault and personal property damage. Ron never had a right to touch the camera even though his establishment is private property


He never did. It was a camera Phone and he tried to tell them to stop and leave over and over whatch it closely. The Kid jumps back when ron tried to put his hand over the lens. I think that Video is very amusing as it looks to me as Ron is fustrated to hell and Back with an Angry Kid that would not leave his property. I could be wrong..Oh and it is against the law for them to post up that Video of Ron without consent he could sue them for Slander amongst other things..That is why Ron is not posting up the Whole Video I am Sure.

Dracc
04-12-2008, 09:31 PM
One of Bob Lutz's rules is "The customer is NOT always right"

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FWH/is_/ai_59282155

To the OP, did you have cash to buy the car if he dropped the price? Were you GOING to buy this car? Did you have financing in place? Or were you going to waste even MORE time trying to get financed with 0 down and awful credit?]



Great question.. i would love to know the answer to. I hated TD Customers ( test driving Customers) you know the one that comes to test drive the newest most expensive car on the lot and does not have the finaces to pay for. "There favorite saying is I really like the car but i have to talk it over with my wife/husband and I'll get back with you tomorrow."

Dracc
04-12-2008, 09:33 PM
He never did. It was a camera Phone and he tried to tell them to stop and leave over and over whatch it closely. The Kid jumps back when ron tried to put his hand over the lens. I think that Video is very amusing as it looks to me as Ron is fustrated to hell and Back with an Angry Kid that would not leave his property. I could be wrong..Oh and it is against the law for them to post up that Video of Ron without consent he could sue them for Slander amongst other things..That is why Ron is not posting up the Whole Video I am Sure.


alot could be done from todays events both sides need to calm down, apologize like men and go their seperate ways.




edit: 2 hours of sleep in 3 days. Stupid has taken over.

BKgen®
04-12-2008, 09:35 PM
go there seperate ways.

their.

Brandon C
04-12-2008, 09:35 PM
It's not disrepectful to tell someone you feel their car isn't worth what they are asking and counter offer a reasonable asking price...


NADA Price: 19725
Kelley Blue Book Price: 18435
Ron's Price: $15,995


I believe that Ron's Price is very Fare as it is Listed below Market Value. People offer less not because it's for a reasonable Price a reasonable price is around Market Value. They offer less because they Believe that they should. Let me ask this if The Price listed was $14,995 which is insanely low for that car would you pay it or ask for a discount???

BKgen®
04-12-2008, 09:37 PM
Let me ask this if The Price listed was $14,995 which is insanely low for that car would you pay it or ask for a discount???

I would ask for a discount, then put up my guard and wait for Ron's attack.

Brandon C
04-12-2008, 09:38 PM
alot could be done from todays events both sides need to calm down, apologize like men and go there seperate ways.


Agreed and I bet Ron let it go right after it happend but The Kid Did this Thread.

And to ANwser the Finance Question was probably not as he Had wasted my time on many a car when I worked there but Ron Still let him drive a car everytime he came and claimed to be ready. Like I said this was deeper than just 1 day

Dracc
04-12-2008, 09:39 PM
Agreed and I bet Ron let it go right after it happend but The Kid Did this Thread.

And to ANwser the Finance Question was probably not as he Had wasted my time on many a car when I worked there but Ron Still let him drive a car everytime he came and claimed to be ready. Like I said this was deeper than just 1 day


Point taken into consideration.

Brandon C
04-12-2008, 09:39 PM
I would ask for a discount, then put up my guard and wait for Ron's attack.


My point was not about Ron but just in genral I see great deals all the time but in our society we still belive we "Deserve" a Discount even if it is at a Great price.

RandomGuy
04-12-2008, 09:39 PM
NADA Price: 19725
Kelley Blue Book Price: 18435
Ron's Price: $15,995


I believe that Ron's Price is very Fare as it is Listed below Market Value. People offer less not because it's for a reasonable Price a reasonable price is around Market Value. They offer less because they Believe that they should. Let me ask this if The Price listed was $14,995 which is insanely low for that car would you pay it or ask for a discount???

LAWL

Try searching the KBB and NADA values for a supra TT?

or even for a... 84 starion

Nada Says
Original MSRP: $12,079
Low Retail Average Retail Value High Retail
Base Price $1,650 $2,150 $2,600
TOTAL PRICE $1,650 $2,150 $2,600


Thhere is NO WAY IN HELL you can get 1600 for a bone stock 84 starion... in bad condition you can get one for like 3-400 bux? mid condition 500-700 and PRISTINE for around 1000-1200

Dracc
04-12-2008, 09:42 PM
LAWL

Try searching the KBB and NADA values for a supra TT?

or even for a... 84 starion

Nada Says
Original MSRP: $12,079
Low Retail Average Retail Value High Retail
Base Price $1,650 $2,150 $2,600
TOTAL PRICE $1,650 $2,150 $2,600


Thhere is NO WAY IN HELL you can get 1600 for a bone stock 84 starion... in bad condition you can get one for like 3-400 bux? mid condition 500-700 and PRISTINE for around 1000-1200


KBB is BS... we only used the dreaded black book .

Brandon C
04-12-2008, 09:42 PM
Thats what I am Saying even if you check Autotrader he was lower the Kid just wanted to be a jerk and Beat the Car up. Why not say" You have a great price here I know but I am a little conserned whith this and this is there anything that can be done about it?" and Response I would Have sid if it was me" I know about those yes that is why I am priced where I am at as I have considered that for you is that all that is stoping us from making a deal?"

BKgen®
04-12-2008, 09:45 PM
My point was not about Ron but just in genral I see great deals all the time but in our society we still belive we "Deserve" a Discount even if it is at a Great price.

People have a right to negotiate.

Echonova
04-12-2008, 09:46 PM
People have a right to negotiate.http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z304/le_fairchild/pricelin.jpg

1000cckiller
04-12-2008, 09:48 PM
People have a right to negotiate. :yes:

Brandon C
04-12-2008, 09:48 PM
People have a right to negotiate.


Why if it is a great price already??? I never got that. Why dont we negotiate at the gas pump or the grocery store thats where we should be negotiating at.

RandomGuy
04-12-2008, 09:49 PM
its all good ... all teh jokes made in this thread were strictly for jokes sake and boredom...

What he did was wrong, yes, but I don't think he should lose his livelihood over it... I'm pretty sure that business puts food on the table for his family.

But aside from that, its not even my business to speculate, i'm just here to instigate (notice the rhyme)

But if i were to speculate, the salesman, no matter how rude/ignorant/obnoxious the customer was... Handled the situation COMPLETELY WRONG. If he was seriously offended, he could have just declined his offer and told him to go on his merry way. If he refused to leave, call the authorities to make him leave... simple as that.

BUT doing some sh!t like that not only is extremely unprofessional, its just retarded... Surely someone in that business is used to customers of that sort anyways (of all businesses in the US, a used car salesman would be IMO the one profession that is the MOST open for haggling w/ prices... not saying he should have accepted it, just that he shouldn't have opened a car lot if he didn't want to get lowballed)

But yeah... i don't know for sure if he actually laid a hand on the kid, but regardless he was acting way out of line. (i'm sure the kid got out of the car for a reason)

1000cckiller
04-12-2008, 09:49 PM
Why if it is a great price already??? I never got that. Why dont we negotiate at the gas pump or the grocery store thats where we should be negotiating at.Because you can't moron

The Ninja
04-12-2008, 09:49 PM
Why if it is a great price already??? I never got that. Why dont we negotiate at the gas pump or the grocery store thats where we should be negotiating at.

You are negotiating when you ride past stations choosing the one with the lowest price.

BKgen®
04-12-2008, 09:51 PM
Why if it is a great price already??? I never got that. Why dont we negotiate at the gas pump or the grocery store thats where we should be negotiating at.

PEOPLE FEEL THE NEED TO NEGOTIATE THE PRICE BECAUSE OF THE GENERAL REPUTATION OF MOST USED CAR DEALERS TO JACK UP THE PRICE ON PURE SH*T CARS.

It's not "our society", or feeling that we "deserve a discount"... It's just human nature, damnit. It's called being smart. If you think it's ok to go around in life believing what everyone tells you, paying full price, and never asking any questions... have fun.

Dracc
04-12-2008, 09:51 PM
You are negotiating when you ride past stations choosing the one with the lowest price.


troof

1000cckiller
04-12-2008, 09:51 PM
You are negotiating when you ride past stations choosing the one with the lowest price.Ninja that's not negotiating.

Dracc
04-12-2008, 09:54 PM
Ninja that's not negotiating.



here you are in the car

should i go to the shell because they have a higher grand of fuel? but the prices are 3.23 a gallon

the Qt has gas for 3.17... hmmm which one :thinking:

The Ninja
04-12-2008, 09:55 PM
Ninja that's not negotiating.

You're telling them you're not buying their gas because its too expensive and competitors are willing to sell at a lower price. So its either they lower it or you buy somewhere else.

1000cckiller
04-12-2008, 09:58 PM
You're telling them you're not buying their gas because its too expensive and competitors are willing to sell at a lower price. So its either they lower it or you buy somewhere else.that still is negotiating

1SICKLEX
04-12-2008, 10:00 PM
Nothing wrong with negotiating and the OP has a right to haggle. Not sure why Ron went off according to the OP, maybe he had a bad day or maybe he's used to people interested in his RSXs to waste tons of his time. Either way, it wasn't professional and now we have a current 11 page thread b/c the OP thinks posting on the internet will accomplish something.

Looking at the cursing in the first post, can you take the story completely serious that he is a "victim" if you cannot type and explain yourself in a mature manner. If its an issue, go to the BBB (though they won't do much).

Ron I am sure is aware though, an angry customer tells EVERYONE, thus this thread.

As one that works in a sales/service environment, too many customers today just think they are ENTITLED to something. Too many are angry or agitated and disrespectful and then expect you to just sit there and "be professional". Customers have changed.

Bottom line, if he dropped the price COULD YOU HAVE BOUGHT THE CAR?!??!?!?

Brandon C
04-12-2008, 10:28 PM
I agree with you!

Kevykev
04-12-2008, 11:02 PM
What a waist of time!

I read three pages and saw a bunch of bickering amongst people that have no clue about what happened. You presumptive bitches.

However, I did gain laughter from Randomguy's Sub-Zero inspired animation. :lmfao:

Echonova
04-12-2008, 11:15 PM
I read three pages and saw a bunch of bickering amongst people that have no clue about what happened. You presumptive bitches.How else do you whore in a thread?

Kevykev
04-12-2008, 11:25 PM
How else do you whore in a thread?


You have a point. I love the subjective arguments in here though -they are COMPELLING.


Great.. A Pr0n Rep. thanks Ech!


One thing I noticed is Brandon C. man - What a respectable guy, He's got his old bosses back like: [insert catch phrase here]

SleeperWRX
04-13-2008, 12:04 AM
Because you can't moron

lmfao

Double_0_Rusty
04-13-2008, 12:13 AM
I am so glad I work for a good reputable (sp) new car dealership. We don't have people come in and try to haggle prices, and all of our salesmen are the most respectable of people. I would never buy from a "buy here, pay here" place, just because of my expirence in the car industry. I have over 3 years in the dealership game, and I am only 20. Most of the cars I have ever seen in "bh/ph" place is complete crap. We sale all of our trade in's to wholesalers the same day, so we don't have the problem of broke asses coming in and trying to get lower prices. Also, we kiss the customer's ass, we make them feel as if they are family. I guess that's why we have been at the top of customer satisfication for Chevrolet dealerships around Ga in the eastern divison. Sorry for my rambling, and I know my point is ------------------------------------------------over here--->, when it should be <-h-e-r-e. So, I don't think Ron was in the right, the customer is the NUMBER 1 priority, make them happy. It can take just one unhappy customer, and you're ruined. Nor, do I think the OP was in the right, for yelling out to other potential clients. Just a bunch out immaturity from both parties......I AM DONE WITH MY RAMBLINGS.....

Julio
04-13-2008, 12:23 AM
I decided to Visit my buddy Ron and find out whats up after I saw this thread. RONs AUTO SALES still supports this site and is a current sponsor. Thats why I wanted to see whats up.. Plus RON is a real nice man..

Now... I saw the video from the lot.. all I can say, good thing there's 2 sides to every story.

In this case BiH1320 is full of poop.
Only reason RON got like that is because you can clearly see the kid running his mouth from a few steps away for a few minutes yelling something .. couldnt tell, no AUDIO

You can clearly see Ron pointing to the streets aparently telling the kid to leave... But the kid still kept yelling something...

At some point, Ron got pissed and got in the kids face...

The Kid ( BiH1320 ) has been to the lot before and always had something negative to say about RONS auto sales.


Im in the customer service business myself... and BiH reminds me of one those customers that comes in and always complains to get/try for free...
Atleast what I gather from this thread.

Honestly, If I was RON, I wouldve probably dropped kicked you and sent you to the hospital.. It wouldve been worth the legal troubles.. But with his videos is obvious, you were being a twathead.
I wish he could post the video, but can't due to legal issues.

I'm not saying this because RON is a sponsor, but simply because it was a weird situation...
If ROn was known for doing business like this.. do you think he would still be in business today ? Ron is known for a cool dude and the stuff he got going on supporting Gwinnett and that go untold.

Im the 1st person in line when is time to bash people.. but I like to get my facts straight 1st..

Double_0_Rusty
04-13-2008, 12:37 AM
I decided to Visit my buddy Ron and find out whats up after I saw this thread. RONs AUTO SALES still supports this site and is a current sponsor. Thats why I wanted to see whats up.. Plus RON is a real nice man..

Now... I saw the video from the lot.. all I can say, good thing there's 2 sides to every story.

In this case BiH1320 is full of poop.
Only reason RON got like that is because you can clearly see the kid running his mouth from a few steps away for a few minutes yelling something .. couldnt tell, no AUDIO

You can clearly see Ron pointing to the streets aparently telling the kid to leave... But the kid still kept yelling something...

At some point, Ron got pissed and got in the kids face...

The Kid ( BiH1320 ) has been to the lot before and always had something negative to say about RONS auto sales.


Im in the customer service business myself... and BiH reminds me of one those customers that comes in and always complains to get/try for free...
Atleast what I gather from this thread.

Honestly, If I was RON, I wouldve probably dropped kicked you and sent you to the hospital.. It wouldve been worth the legal troubles.. But with his videos is obvious, you were being a twathead.
I wish he could post the video, but can't due to legal issues.

I'm not saying this because RON is a sponsor, but simply because it was a weird situation...
If ROn was known for doing business like this.. do you think he would still be in business today ? Ron is known for a cool dude and the stuff he got going on supporting Gwinnett and that go untold.

Im the 1st person in line when is time to bash people.. but I like to get my facts straight 1st..

Good post there, sir.


Also what I bolded made me LOL irl. Lol @ dropkicking, and calling him a twathead.

redrumracer
04-13-2008, 12:48 AM
My bad I am Typing with a 9 month old on my lap and trying to make a coherent thought.

I agree that Neither party sounds right I was not there but I have Delt with the kid Posting this up. Hell I know Most of you on here. I just called Ron back which he told me was that he did not blow up until this kid started yelling at the other customer's when his offer was turned down that Ron was a Cheat and a Thief to other people at the dealership. That is what set Ron off and the reason he asked him to leave. Ron's Auto is Small Buisness and when you have someone on your lot yelling at others which is what Ron has stated happened (again I was not there) but that would make me a little more eager to tell someone off.
well theres a simple solution to all of this let ron post up his vids.

BABY J
04-13-2008, 12:48 AM
But Ok so lets see

http://www.ronsautosales.com/filedetails.asp?image=800442006AcuraRSXType-S012web.jpg

Ron's Car:
2006 Acura Rsx Type S with 65k Miles for $15,995



http://www.carmax.com/dyn/factsheet/factsheet.aspx?KNo=4
Carmax:
2005 Acura RSX Type S w/ 42 K for $18,147

Yeah Ron's really trying to rip people off..
A year newer but more mile still $2152 below Car Max on the same Car...


Sorry not trying to argue just really hate Carmax..

Also:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/searchresults.jsp?num_records=&search_lang=en&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&search_type=both&distance=100&address=30045&marketZipError=false&style_flag=1&make=ACURA&model=RSX&make2=&model2=&make3=&model3=&start_year=2006&end_year=2006&min_price=&max_price=&transmission=Manual&engine=&drive=&doors=&fuel=&max_mileage=&color=&color2=&color3=&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&keywords_display=Type+S&sort_type=priceDESC&body_code=0&certified=&advanced=&default_sort=priceDESC&awsp=false&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&systime=

7 Type S models in 100 Miles and Ron's was the cheapest....

He was not wrong for saying no in my book. Come on Scratches and Curb Rash...Thats just excuse's to me. Where Did the offer come from because to Me in which I do work for another dealer, Ron is priced the best in town.

Lets turn this converstation into what should a car dealer do to better not have these types of problems, besides just give everything away?


You're an idiot. 1 word - VOLUME!! He HAS to sell cheap in order to be competetive... 6th grade economics. Now if you REALLY want me to explain it to you I will. But look around the lot at Carmax --- they can AFFORD to have customers not buy. They are a national chain. A small business can NOT afford to get in a customers face... why? Well this thread is why --- you storm out of a McDonald's pissed b/c your fries were cold --- who cares, NATIONAL company and they can live w/out your $3. But "Bobs Home Cooking" needs every customer he can get... he can't afford to piss people off.

Double_0_Rusty
04-13-2008, 12:51 AM
You're an idiot. 1 word - VOLUME!! He HAS to sell cheap in order to be competetive... 6th grade economics. Now if you REALLY want me to explain it to you I will. But look around the lot at Carmax --- they can AFFORD to have customers not buy. They are a national chain. A small business can NOT afford to get in a customers face... why? Well this thread is why --- you storm out of a McDonald's pissed b/c your fries were cold --- who cares, NATIONAL company and they can live w/out your $3. But "Bobs Home Cooking" needs every customer he can get... he can't afford to piss people off.


You have something in your CP from me.

1SICKLEX
04-13-2008, 12:52 AM
I decided to Visit my buddy Ron and find out whats up after I saw this thread. RONs AUTO SALES still supports this site and is a current sponsor. Thats why I wanted to see whats up.. Plus RON is a real nice man..

Now... I saw the video from the lot.. all I can say, good thing there's 2 sides to every story.

In this case BiH1320 is full of poop.
Only reason RON got like that is because you can clearly see the kid running his mouth from a few steps away for a few minutes yelling something .. couldnt tell, no AUDIO

You can clearly see Ron pointing to the streets aparently telling the kid to leave... But the kid still kept yelling something...

At some point, Ron got pissed and got in the kids face...

The Kid ( BiH1320 ) has been to the lot before and always had something negative to say about RONS auto sales.


Im in the customer service business myself... and BiH reminds me of one those customers that comes in and always complains to get/try for free...
Atleast what I gather from this thread.

Honestly, If I was RON, I wouldve probably dropped kicked you and sent you to the hospital.. It wouldve been worth the legal troubles.. But with his videos is obvious, you were being a twathead.
I wish he could post the video, but can't due to legal issues.

I'm not saying this because RON is a sponsor, but simply because it was a weird situation...
If ROn was known for doing business like this.. do you think he would still be in business today ? Ron is known for a cool dude and the stuff he got going on supporting Gwinnett and that go untold.

Im the 1st person in line when is time to bash people.. but I like to get my facts straight 1st..


QFT

redrumracer
04-13-2008, 12:55 AM
oh and i also read that there were privacy laws which that may be true to the actual inside of the building but there is no expected privacy out on the lot in the open in the eye of the public. so those camera's/vids can be shown.

Vteckidd
04-13-2008, 12:55 AM
but he shouldnt have to kiss every punk kids ass either.

The video he posted showed nothing but a punk with a mouth yelling at a guy.

The guy then tried to stop the video recording.

I really doubt that someone would start a fight and a ****fest like this over a $1000 offer on a car.

Story sounded fishy from the start, this kid prob thought he could low ball or haggle down Ron, an when Ron didnt back down he got all pissy.

I mean he sounded like a badass in the video saying "punch me an ill call the cops, spit on me an ill call the cops". Sounds a little baited to me.

Baby J is right, bigger larger corp can afford to ask more for their cars, cause they have the capital to sit on the cars for longer for that RIGHT buyer.

But at the same token, Rons rejecting an offer shouldnt be cause for argument.

I bought my sc300 from a dealer, i tried to lowball him of course, he knew the game, we agreed on a price that was fair. He didnt take any disrespect an i didnt either. But some people can negotiate without being a **** , some cant.

I see nothing wrong with what Rons did so far, unless compelling videos surface showing definite malice on Rons part, this is simply a kid being an attention whore an throwing a temper tantrum over not getting the car he wanted.

/thread

BABY J
04-13-2008, 01:01 AM
And Brandon -- you say that the cops did nothing to Ron b/c the OP bc he's a tool and had no leg to stand on.... well that's the SAME reason why the cops did nothing to BIH either. Had Ron asked him to leave, once, maybe twice... and he refused, he could have had the cops on his side. He lost his cool, so did the OP, and b/c they were BOTH idiots they both forfeited the edge that they each had once enforcement arrived.

redrumracer
04-13-2008, 01:02 AM
but he shouldnt have to kiss every punk kids ass either.

The video he posted showed nothing but a punk with a mouth yelling at a guy.

The guy then tried to stop the video recording.

I really doubt that someone would start a fight and a ****fest like this over a $1000 offer on a car.

Story sounded fishy from the start, this kid prob thought he could low ball or haggle down Ron, an when Ron didnt back down he got all pissy.

I mean he sounded like a badass in the video saying "punch me an ill call the cops, spit on me an ill call the cops". Sounds a little baited to me.

Baby J is right, bigger larger corp can afford to ask more for their cars, cause they have the capital to sit on the cars for longer for that RIGHT buyer.

But at the same token, Rons rejecting an offer shouldnt be cause for argument.

I bought my sc300 from a dealer, i tried to lowball him of course, he knew the game, we agreed on a price that was fair. He didnt take any disrespect an i didnt either. But some people can negotiate without being a **** , some cant.

I see nothing wrong with what Rons did so far, unless compelling videos surface showing definite malice on Rons part, this is simply a kid being an attention whore an throwing a temper tantrum over not getting the car he wanted.

/thread


even if thats so Ron still should have been the professional one and asked him to leave. if he then refused he shouldve called the cops, there is no excuse for him to get that tone of voice and Ron also obviously walked to his(B=whatever the rest of his name is) car. as soon as Ron saw him heading to his car Ron shouldve just walked away.

BABY J
04-13-2008, 01:03 AM
Very well said Mike... but the professionalism lies w/ the business almost every time. Let some1 (and 2 of his friends) follow me to my car w/ that much bass in his voice ---- see what happens when I get w/in an arms reach of the space beneath my drivers seat - :goodjob:



MODS, if he is still a site sponsor this needs to be locked... nothing else to see here.

redrumracer
04-13-2008, 01:07 AM
Very well said Mike... but the professionalism lies w/ the business almost every time.



MODS, if he is still a site sponsor this needs to be locked... nothing else to see here.
i believe they think differently lol :lmfao: :lmfao:

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Vteckidd
04-13-2008, 01:08 AM
even if thats so Ron still should have been the professional one and asked him to leave. if he then refused he shouldve called the cops, there is no excuse for him to get that tone of voice and Ron also obviously walked to his(B=whatever the rest of his name is) car. as soon as Ron saw him heading to his car Ron shouldve just walked away.
while i dont disagree, we all have our bad days. If this kid has a history of this behavior, it can get the best of you.

Especially if he was yelling at other customers on the lot an being an ass as was previously stated.

Was Ron wrong for being angry, yeah, he was. Was he prob justified, yeah prob.

They will both learn a valuable lesson from this

BABY J
04-13-2008, 01:08 AM
EDIT ^^^^^^^^^^

jR1_kS14
04-13-2008, 01:10 AM
in a business, customer>employee.

Ron should have just got a warrant where the kid cannot be on the property, like many QT's do.

It was unprofessional of Ron, and stupid of the kid.

IndianStig
04-13-2008, 01:18 AM
I decided to Visit my buddy Ron and find out whats up after I saw this thread. RONs AUTO SALES still supports this site and is a current sponsor. Thats why I wanted to see whats up.. Plus RON is a real nice man..

Now... I saw the video from the lot.. all I can say, good thing there's 2 sides to every story.

In this case BiH1320 is full of poop.
Only reason RON got like that is because you can clearly see the kid running his mouth from a few steps away for a few minutes yelling something .. couldnt tell, no AUDIO

You can clearly see Ron pointing to the streets aparently telling the kid to leave... But the kid still kept yelling something...

At some point, Ron got pissed and got in the kids face...

The Kid ( BiH1320 ) has been to the lot before and always had something negative to say about RONS auto sales.


Im in the customer service business myself... and BiH reminds me of one those customers that comes in and always complains to get/try for free...
Atleast what I gather from this thread.

Honestly, If I was RON, I wouldve probably dropped kicked you and sent you to the hospital.. It wouldve been worth the legal troubles.. But with his videos is obvious, you were being a twathead.
I wish he could post the video, but can't due to legal issues.

I'm not saying this because RON is a sponsor, but simply because it was a weird situation...
If ROn was known for doing business like this.. do you think he would still be in business today ? Ron is known for a cool dude and the stuff he got going on supporting Gwinnett and that go untold.

Im the 1st person in line when is time to bash people.. but I like to get my facts straight 1st..


EDIT THIS INTO THE FIRST PAGE. IA IS TOO LAZY TO READ THIS FAR IN

AnTi-PooN
04-13-2008, 01:30 AM
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MongolPup
04-13-2008, 02:10 AM
One semi off-topic thing that I would like to add: Improper grammar or spelling does NOTHING to make people take your posts seriously; I don't care the excuse. If you have something that is going on that prevents you from properly expressing yourself, you need to wait until you are able to say exactly what you mean. Call me an elitist or whatever, but I believe the way you type/speak reflects on your intelligence. Especially in these "he said, she said" situations, being coherent means the difference between people thinking twice about what they've been told and just writing you off.

Other items of interest:

• Julio, I'm impressed that you used the resources available to you to make sure you got the whole story.

• I predicted the footage would not be available. Yes there are privacy concerns, but they can be addressed.

• Without commenting on this particular situation, in business you have to deal with irate/irrational customers without losing your cool. Is that fair? No. But it's life, and just like a lot of other things if you want to succeed you're going to have to learn deal with people you don't want to deal with. As a person, you want to get angry. As a salesperson, you know that that is unproductive.

• It's unfortunate that Ron was in a shouting match in front of other customers; no good can come from that. However I don't really think that this thread will make or break him; people who can actually afford to buy cars generally aren't in the WL. I'm sure he gets some sales from this site, but not enough to be really concerned about it. Some people in this thread were perceptive to the fact that most of his customers will never hear or read about this thread; no one cares what these kids are whining about, because until they actually have money to spend they have NO TANGIBLE EFFECT on the businesses they bash. No matter how many other poor, narrow minded people think the same way.

• I love how many people on IA think they know a ton about various topics and set out to post like they are the definitive source of information for us. Stupid people will believe anything you tell them, and are easily swayed. I'm sure there are people who respect you, and I'm sure there are people who see right through your garbage. Some of you just haven’t been around the real world long enough to be talking about “life experiences” you've had. It's easy to act knowledgeable on the internet isn't it?

jaystar
04-13-2008, 02:14 AM
Why if it is a great price already??? I never got that. Why dont we negotiate at the gas pump or the grocery store thats where we should be negotiating at.

wow that was dumb. but who ever buys a car they see for sale at the price they see without trying 2 negotiate ?

BiH1320
04-13-2008, 02:21 AM
Agreed and I bet Ron let it go right after it happend but The Kid Did this Thread.

And to ANwser the Finance Question was probably not as he Had wasted my time on many a car when I worked there but Ron Still let him drive a car everytime he came and claimed to be ready. Like I said this was deeper than just 1 day



You dumb sack of ****. When did I test drive a car at Ron's?
Please fukin tell me?
I know you wanna stick up for Ron. Idc man.
And not the Honda Accord was mine. And Yes I sold it without anyone's permission.. And the acura integra.. You told me not to tell my parent's about the salvage flood title.. The car smelled like water and fish. Idled at 1600.. I thought it was because the car was cold.. Noo.. I let it run till it heated up a bit. And it stayed there.. Check Engine light was on.
And no i havent been coming up there for "years" and mom's car? Would you and your butt buddy ron want to meet up for a drink and talk about what happened??? Sure everyone else that posted up is welcome.
We go sit down and talk about it.
And then you can see both sides of story.
And no it was not a camera phone moron.
And ron was not just angry.. He tried to spit on me when I stepped out the car.. KICK ME... He also put his fist right under my nose and said I WILL FUKIN PUNCH YOU.
Yes I was ready to buy a car.
I had $1500 as a down payment.
And Ron told me he had a bank for me to finance with.

What dealer doesnt take off $1000 if someone says ill buy it right now if you do.
My offer $14,900.. His price $15,900.
I told him my offer he goes are you trying to run me out of business and he start's talking about his family like I give a fuk if he has to feed them? I have my own shyt to worry about.. Do you see me going around telling people I have problems? Hell nah. I work and I dont complain.
You own a fukin dealership and you whine? And I work for $13 an hour in a company.. Do you see me whinning? I wish I owned a dealership.


Hey Brandon, answer me this though. If you were in the market of buying a Rsx.. The price was let's say $19,800.. Would you give him that much or say ill give you a bit lower than you're asking price? HUH?
Yeah stfu.



1sicklex. Yes I would of bought the car.


And Julio.
I never come and say negative shyt to ron about his car's...
Thats a straight lie right there..

BiH1320
04-13-2008, 02:24 AM
Threatning people they will punch them???
How do you explain that?
Im pretty sure it's on cam.
You see me running my mouth? How do you know if there's no voice to the video???

You're full of shyt. That's all I can say.
So is Ron and Brandon and Ron's **** buddy Dean.


And no I dont have behavior problems.







I decided to Visit my buddy Ron and find out whats up after I saw this thread. RONs AUTO SALES still supports this site and is a current sponsor. Thats why I wanted to see whats up.. Plus RON is a real nice man..

Now... I saw the video from the lot.. all I can say, good thing there's 2 sides to every story.

In this case BiH1320 is full of poop.
Only reason RON got like that is because you can clearly see the kid running his mouth from a few steps away for a few minutes yelling something .. couldnt tell, no AUDIO

You can clearly see Ron pointing to the streets aparently telling the kid to leave... But the kid still kept yelling something...

At some point, Ron got pissed and got in the kids face...

The Kid ( BiH1320 ) has been to the lot before and always had something negative to say about RONS auto sales.


Im in the customer service business myself... and BiH reminds me of one those customers that comes in and always complains to get/try for free...
Atleast what I gather from this thread.

Honestly, If I was RON, I wouldve probably dropped kicked you and sent you to the hospital.. It wouldve been worth the legal troubles.. But with his videos is obvious, you were being a twathead.
I wish he could post the video, but can't due to legal issues.

I'm not saying this because RON is a sponsor, but simply because it was a weird situation...
If ROn was known for doing business like this.. do you think he would still be in business today ? Ron is known for a cool dude and the stuff he got going on supporting Gwinnett and that go untold.

Im the 1st person in line when is time to bash people.. but I like to get my facts straight 1st..

BiH1320
04-13-2008, 02:31 AM
Yes I was yelling you idiot because he slammed my door in my damn car a few times??? Who wouldnt?? Threatning to punch me? Tried to kick and spit on me??? Huh? Wouldnt you curse back? Or stand there like a little b1tch?
And it did start because of the $1000 off. How is that lowballing? Telling him we sign paper's right now if you wanna give it for $14.900???

And why wouldnt I tell him to punch me? I wish he did. I have all the right's to sue him and call the cops. Be a fukin man and punch me if you tell me you will.

And I dont care if I didnt get the car.
What idiot would pay full price?
If I was selling a car for $5000... Wouldnt you ask a bit lower?? So you can save a bit money. I mean, if I had money to throw around like a idiot. I STILL WOULDNT GIVE HIM FULL PRICE.
Only a idiot would do that. And No I am not being a attn whore.
I was not throwing a temper?
How did I start it when he comes at me saying am I trying to run him out of business? How's that?? By asking $14,900???




but he shouldnt have to kiss every punk kids ass either.

The video he posted showed nothing but a punk with a mouth yelling at a guy.

The guy then tried to stop the video recording.

I really doubt that someone would start a fight and a ****fest like this over a $1000 offer on a car.

Story sounded fishy from the start, this kid prob thought he could low ball or haggle down Ron, an when Ron didnt back down he got all pissy.

I mean he sounded like a badass in the video saying "punch me an ill call the cops, spit on me an ill call the cops". Sounds a little baited to me.

Baby J is right, bigger larger corp can afford to ask more for their cars, cause they have the capital to sit on the cars for longer for that RIGHT buyer.

But at the same token, Rons rejecting an offer shouldnt be cause for argument.

I bought my sc300 from a dealer, i tried to lowball him of course, he knew the game, we agreed on a price that was fair. He didnt take any disrespect an i didnt either. But some people can negotiate without being a **** , some cant.

I see nothing wrong with what Rons did so far, unless compelling videos surface showing definite malice on Rons part, this is simply a kid being an attention whore an throwing a temper tantrum over not getting the car he wanted.

/thread

JDMirza
04-13-2008, 02:38 AM
this thread needs more lulz

plz contribute
LMFAO!

Crazy Asian
04-13-2008, 02:41 AM
My eyes hurt. Anyone else?

BABY J
04-13-2008, 06:44 AM
And BIH --- don't let me start on you kid. The untrained eye would think that I "favor" your actions over Ron's - I do, but BARELY and I mean BARELY... but ONLY bc Ron runs a business. Sometimes it's best to STFU ... maybe you should let the SLIGHT favor advantage you have in this thread do. One more retarded post like u are He-Man waiving $1500 around like OMG LET ME SIGN YOU UP RIGHT NOW FOR A 15,000.00 CAR and I'ma dig into YOUR a$s and show why you are a f*ckin clown, just as Ron was. Relax kid.

Brandon C
04-13-2008, 06:49 AM
thanks Julio.

Man Like I said before you sir Need a Hug because The way you act and swear in here is a manner of your behavior that is just vulgar.

To everyones question absolutly I negotiate prices at Dealers everyday. My statement was, why is that the case in our society but I will say I try to but I am not rude about it. If I have the best price I run with it. Some dealers have vehicles marked at a blow out price so they have no room. I buy over 30 cars a week for my company from many Dealers around town including Ron's. I work for a Credit Union Auto Finder Service that deals with Major Customer Service.

To the kid from Chevy just FYI: Ron's is not a Buy Her Pay Her lot. His finance company's he uses are Large Banks and like Capital 1. Most of his Cars are Over 10 Grans and have gone through a Certified Shop.

Thanks again to those who can see a heated momment got out of control for both. Like I stated I was not there but now the kid said we tried to sell him a Flood car but how did he know it was a flood Car. Cause we told him it was not Ron's Auto Sales Vehicle and I believe he asked if we would trade for an accord that he was trying to sell on here for many many months. That car was Ron's personal Car he was going to turn into a Track Car.


Everyone HAve a Blessed sunday and let this **** Go. He did not hit anyone nor did the young man get his car. There is a Tragedy here and that there is not enough love going around or they could of just maned up and Huged each other.

_Christian_
04-13-2008, 08:19 AM
I'd be pissed if you were yelling at my customers. Let him loose your business, but don't make him loose other people's. That's just bad ethics and makes you look like an ass. He still in the wrong. I'm sure he now knows calling the police and waiting would have been a better option than threatening violence. From my take, the actions of both parties involved were uncalled for.

ksniperfox
04-13-2008, 08:37 AM
i was in the market for a new car...and now i will NOT be going by there, no matter what kind of deal it is...nor will anyone i know.