Baby J got dropped...

[quickdodge®]

Befores and afters:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/quickdodge/IMG_1008.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/quickdodge/IMG_1013.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/quickdodge/IMG_1009.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/quickdodge/IMG_1014.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/quickdodge/IMG_1012.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/quickdodge/IMG_1015.jpg

New headlights:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/quickdodge/IMG_1016.jpg

[quickdodge®]

It looks much lower and better in person. Later, QD.

[Crazy Asian]

IT NEEDS PAINT JOB!!!!

[d_day87]

looks awesome, i'm thinkin about buying one of these soon. what else you got planned?

[Captain-Obvious™]

looks a lot better, love that car

[soul]

slam it and put rotas on it........... :ninja:

[topsecret2JZ]

i actually like those cars a lot, are they pretty hard to find? i wouldnt mind getting one myself.

[quickdodge®]

IT NEEDS PAINT JOB!!!!

One step at a time.


what else you got planned?

This isn't mine and I can't divulge his plans. Mine is finishing up a heart transplant.


slam it and put rotas on it..........

Lolol and NO! Putting non-old school wheels on that car is like telling Jesus he wasn't invited to the Last Supper. Blasphemy.


are they pretty hard to find?

In good shape, yes. It took J 3 years to find this one.

Thanks for the compliments. Later, QD.

[AlliRae]

i love it.

[MistaCee]

Sweet get some old skool rims now

[eYezs1ck]

nice!

[DavidTB8889]

nice.... classic

[dumpdaccord]

reminds me of herby......


real different.....OG hatchy....

[Crazy Asian]

Indeed you need wantanabes on this car or old school SSR or Enkeis. Not Rota.

[Dirty Octopus™]

Ooooooooooooooo Weeeeeeeee! :eek:

MUCH better. thing is turning into a fresh mobile! :D

when you gonna slam yours Dizzle?

what ya'll do to drop it? :thinking:

[.blank cd]

QD, way to let all these other guys know what "ol' school hondas" really are.


This isn't mine and I can't divulge his plans. Mine is finishing up a heart transplant.Throw a B18C5 in that ho!

[Revmaynard]

Looks good, I can't wait to see the finished product.

[uproot]

looks good, what kind of suspension do these cars have? was the install/modification difficult?

[quickdodge®]

Ooooooooooooooo Weeeeeeeee! :eek:

MUCH better. thing is turning into a fresh mobile! :D

when you gonna slam yours Dizzle?

Yes it is. Mine is lower than his already.


what ya'll do to drop it? :thinking:


what kind of suspension do these cars have? was the install/modification difficult?

Heheheh. I was wondering when that would come up, lolol. Mine and his both done the same way. Old school rides get old school treatment. Heated springs, homeboy. Later, QD.

[Dirty Octopus™]

QD, way to let all these other guys know what "ol' school hondas" really are.

Throw a B18C5 in that ho!
and Open Exaust manifold dat bitt! :super: http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/Knonimous/GIFs/Yule.gif

[Dirty Octopus™]

Yes it is. Mine is lower than his already.





Heheheh. I was wondering when that would come up, lolol. Mine and his both done the same way. Old school rides get old school treatment. Heated springs, homeboy. Later, QD.
thought so! :D
either that or cutting.

Yo! you still gotta tell me how you do it. what do you put the hubs on? or do you do it with the wheels on since they were so goll dern high! :crazy:

[DB4LYFE ™]

old skool ftmfw! :goodjob: looks good man

[RutRoe]

looks killer... hope yours turn out as sweet as that one

[FasTech]

Looking good, nice car..... and it looks alot better with it lowered.... Heated springs? Did you just get a tourch and heat them? Not sure how to do it, and does it drive worse with it done?

[LS2ner]

Looks good man, i guess your skills are now proven to be true. You never updated me with progress of the cvcc.

[quickdodge®]

Looks good man, i guess your skills are now proven to be true. You never updated me with progress of the cvcc.

Ahhh. My bad. The mechanic is at VIR for a race this weekend. The hood is propped and there has been some tinkering but he's supposed to dive in beginning of next week.


Heated springs? Did you just get a tourch and heat them? Not sure how to do it, and does it drive worse with it done?

That's what I did and how I did it. It's kind of hard to explain it but easy as hail to do it. And you can tell it's lowered but much better ride than cut. Took me all of about an hour of total heating time.


hope yours turn out as sweet as that one

Thanks and mine looks basically just like his. Right now. About the same color. And mine is a bit lower. But that will change pretty drastically as we are both going in totally opposite directions.


either that or cutting.

Yo! you still gotta tell me how you do it. what do you put the hubs on? or do you do it with the wheels on since they were so goll dern high!

No cutting for me. I'll never do that way. And I don't remove anything to heat.

DB4LYFE, thanks for the compliments. Later, QD.

[uproot]

Old school rides get old school treatment. Heated springs, homeboy. Later, QD.


yeah i was thinkin it would be somethin along those lines. :D

straight gangster :goodjob:

[mushroom_toy]

Looks awesome, but I dont know if Im digging the headlights or not.

[vtecgsrguy]

1 G FTW!!!! looks good j!!!

[smrlsvtec]

ha.... you call that low??? this is my boys 78' civic dumped.


http://tunerzine.com/coverage/194/images/_MG_3429.jpg





we are currently doing a brown top ZC swap with ITB's. :goodjob:

[quickdodge®]

ha.... you call that low??? this is my boys 78' civic dumped.

we are currently doing a brown top ZC motor with ITB's. :goodjob:

1. Yes I call that low. I didn't say slammed. Why? Because it isn't. I didn't say "dumped." Why? Because it isn't. It's lowered. End of story.

2. Your "boys" 78? Not dumped at all. In fact, it's about the same height. Just because he has bigger wheels to fill the gap doesn't mean it's dumped. And you can do one of two things right here. a)You can (and probably will try) to question what I know about "dumped." or b)Put me in touch with this guy (if he;s local) as Baby J and I and a few others are working to round up all the old school imports we can.

3. Great for your swap. I guess.

Later, QD.

[mushroom_toy]

^Looks like above car needs smaller wheels/tires. No honda needs wheels bigger than 15s.

[FRYLOCK]

QD, way to let all these other guys know what "ol' school hondas" really are.

Throw a B18C5 in that ho!


Sorry QD dont know what that is

[smrlsvtec]

^Looks like above car needs smaller wheels/tires. No honda needs wheels bigger than 15s.



those are 15s ;) the 78' is just a super small car so the 15s looks like 20s :goodjob:

[quickdodge®]

those are 15s ;) the 78' is just a super small car so the 15s looks like 20s :goodjob:

Ain't that the truth. Lolol. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

Sorry QD dont know what that is

Same here. I have no idea what a B18 or whatever is. Later, QD.

[mushroom_toy]

those are 15s ;) the 78' is just a super small car so the 15s looks like 20s :goodjob:

Nevermind then lol. Tonka Toy Status.

[OneSlow5pt0]

looks good,cant wait for yall to have a "photoshoot"

[BABY J]

To answer a few questions...

** Thanx to "QUICKDODGE-ENGINEERING" for the time and education. :D I've had hydros, airride, cut springs, you NAME it I have done it -- OTHER than heating coils. This is the 1st time I've attempted this route. The drive back from Conyers to Canton I tried to upset it, flip it over, break it lose... and it's solid (w/ this original engine in place -- we'll see what happens when I have more power). To all that have their opinions on the procedure ---- hmmmm.... it's an open forum, I welcome it... but if you think I am a n00b on suspension here's a read:

http://www.hondasociety.com/board/showthread.php?t=33526&page=1&pp=30

And that's just for starters -- I've done it all in that arena, as I am an ex-mini trucker. ;) The 88 (EF) coils, w/ OEM rebuildable struts (or just some regular KYB aftermarket replacements) are a bolt-on affair... or you can modify the spring perch for just a TAD bit more drop. I already have the skunk coils, and KYB struts for front and rear --- if I don't like this $30 method of lowering, I can still re-engineer the setup --- otherwise I saved myself almost $500.;)

** The headlights are in "test-mode" as we speak. Output is not as bright as the originals --- in fact, HI-BEAM is about what a normal aftermarket OEM replacement is on low. Leaves a lot to be desired IMO. I will use the side of a building to adjust them properly tomorrow night and retest. I am DEAD SET on the look, as many of you know this car will be 100% flat black on the outside... not an OUNCE of gloss anywhere... those lights will be a nice touch to complete the look I am going for. Furthermore... the bulbs are H4, ready for the HID retro-fit of my choice if my upcoming body mods --> :ninja: <-- don't allow for some auxillary driving lights to assist the headlights. Speaking of the look... that leads me to...

** PAINT: The car was slated for paint on the 17th of March. I am waiting on rubber seals for the windshield, hatch, rear 1/4 glass. I already received the door weather stripping... all coming from Scotts Old Rubber in New Zealand. Once the rest of the rubber arrives, it will be painted satin black (think Skunk2) (exterior) by a local Canton, GA painter... and the interior (the paint scheme follows to the interior on classic cars --- there are only 2 "panels" in the car) will be painted by Superstar Customs (gloss black).

** Rotas -- no. :no: LOL. But I do have some vintage style wheels for it that are currently being powder-coated and trued. (13x5)

** The car that some1 posted belongs to Evan --- not sure he is still building it, but it's looks lower due the 15in wheels --- as some1 stated --- very clean car though.

[BABY J]

UP for pics of the wheels (as they looked when I purchased them). When they get back from wheel wizard they will look like ---> :ninja:


:D

[quickdodge®]

Ha haaaaaa, very cool. Later, QD.

[Sammich]

that joint is balla. i'd rock it all day. take those emblems off and buff em..or just buff them in place..theres some wheels i'm thinking about, but cant put my finger on it that would set this off

[Sammich]

UP for pics of the wheels (as they looked when I purchased them). When they get back from wheel wizard they will look like ---> :ninja:


:D

tit

teez

[santacruz77]

i think they would look better with out bumbers..

[quickdodge®]

i think they would look better with out bumbers..

Mine may be coming off. Not sure. Later, QD.

[BABY J]

At the least I will collapse the bumper struts and do a 2 - 3 inch tuck. But I won't delete them altogether.

[Thighs]

those cars would look great with panasports... if you got some money. lol

ive always wanted to put GOOD suspension on one of those and track it.

[santacruz77]

that will look better but maybe would look nice in the front if they were completly gone but had two of the little things sticking out like folks do on old beetle after bumber is removed...

by the way I vote for busa swap!! ;)

[Thighs]

that will look better but maybe would look nice in the front if they were completly gone but had two of the little things sticking out like folks do on old beetle after bumber is removed...

by the way I vote for busa swap!! ;)

haha a busa swap would be sick, but its not NEARLY as easy as it sounds. unless you know how to make your own diff.

[santacruz77]

tiss true.... just put a strait axle from one wheel to other and weld a chain ring on it......... like a go cart

[Thighs]

tiss true.... just put a strait axle from one wheel to other and weld a chain ring on it......... like a go cart

not in the front... lol

[EJ25RUN]

paint it hot pink :yes:

[santacruz77]

thas why you make it rwd,

[BABY J]

Panas aren't that expensive...

[santacruz77]

QD when we gonna see yours at a athens meet

[Thighs]

thas why you make it rwd,

oh. well in that case it would work lol

[Thighs]

Panas aren't that expensive...

they arent that cheap either or id get em for the miata

[Fr33way]

Those wheels are micro! Very cool to see some progress on these rides. LOL @ the people pushing the same timeattacktheme/roofrack/offset/rolledfender/overthetop style on to these little cars.

[quickdodge®]

they arent that cheap either or id get em for the miata

There actually not any more expensive as most wheels you buy for your newer cars. When on Ebay, you can easily pick some up about $800/set.


LOL @ the people pushing the same timeattacktheme/roofrack/offset/rolledfender/overthetop style on to these little cars.

Exactly, lolol. I love my 12" wheels and plan on working with these. And I will add a bit of a "secret" in that I am actually putting a roof rack on mine. But this is a Honda OEM chrome luggage rack. Later, QD.

[DUBSf22c]

In good shape, yes. It took J 3 years to find this one.

Thanks for the compliments. Later, QD.

LOOK LIKE YALL FAIL HARD.. took me 15 mins?!?:thinking:

tHIS THING CALLED THE INTRAWEBZ REALLY WORKS


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1978-Honda-Civic-GREAT-MPG-Great-Shape-50-pics-MUST-SEE_W0QQitemZ130212653002QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item1 30212653002
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1978-Honda-Civic-CVCC-Hatchback-4-speed-28K-miles_W0QQitemZ140222957431QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m140222957431

even found a neat 83 WAGON.. WOWZOR

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1983-HONDA-CIVIC-ONE-OWNER-NO-RESEREVE-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ130213292909QQcmdZViewItem?hash=i tem130213292909

[Brian*]

that **** is badass!

[DeeAOne]

looks sweet. props for something different. :goodjob:

[BABY J]

LOOK LIKE YALL FAIL HARD.. took me 15 mins?!?:thinking:

tHIS THING CALLED THE INTRAWEBZ REALLY WORKS


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1978-Honda-Civic-GREAT-MPG-Great-Shape-50-pics-MUST-SEE_W0QQitemZ130212653002QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item1 30212653002
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1978-Honda-Civic-CVCC-Hatchback-4-speed-28K-miles_W0QQitemZ140222957431QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m140222957431

even found a neat 83 WAGON.. WOWZOR

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1983-HONDA-CIVIC-ONE-OWNER-NO-RESEREVE-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ130213292909QQcmdZViewItem?hash=i tem130213292909


You obv have no clue. But that's okay.

[DUBSf22c]

You obv have no clue. But that's okay.

nope honestly.. but englighten me pretty please..... seriously.. why are those not good enough?>:(

[TRDwasiq]

my dad used to have this back in pakiland.. looking good.

[BABY J]

For your 1st one... read the powertrain section. 2, it's an Ohio car --- take those front fenders off and be prepared for the grot (rust) from the salt.

Your second one --- LOL ---- has 28 k "original" miles right? But has a BRAND NEW NOS (Honda) carb. Funny --- why would a 28,000 mile (that's a NEW car) need a new carb?? I'll just stop there on that example.

Your 3rd example is not a 1st gen.

PS: I am not saying that you can't find these cars... but chances are if you find it on the web you are being taken for a ride. I found a GA car, no rust under the fenders... etc. That's why you take your time. I also took over 5 years to get my 73 Datsun 510 coupe. When it's a classic car, you're taking your chances. Not saying u can't get lucky, but the odds are highly not in your favor of getting a fair deal.

[DUBSf22c]

When it's a classic car, you're taking your chances. Not saying u can't get lucky, but the odds are highly not in your favor of getting a fair deal.

CANT AGREE MORE but i was just being a asshat.:crazy: Im at work STILLLLLLL yall have to entertain me

[Total_Blender]

slam it and put rotas on it........... :ninja:

Rotas or any "new school" wheel wouldn't look right IMO, that car needs wheels from the same time period like Minilites or Enkei meshes. Not to mention the Sb-1 Civics had a 4x120 bolt pattern that would require a complete front-end swap to be able to use EF calipers and rotors... and re-drilling the rear drums to 4x100 too.:doh:

QD did you get the IM I sent you on the 1st. gen civic board? I would like to borrow one of your cars to test the gauges I have. :goodjob:

[quickdodge®]

LOOK LIKE YALL FAIL HARD..

Not really when you take into consideration the overall condition for the money and factors in that. No fail at all. Trust me, good things DO come to those who wait and don't necessarily jump on the first thing they see in the first 15 minutes. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

and re-drilling the rear drums to 4x100 too.:doh:

There's no re-drilling for the rear. Simple swap over from a DA or 88 Prelude. Heheh.


QD did you get the IM I sent you on the 1st. gen civic board? I would like to borrow one of your cars to test the gauges I have. :goodjob:

No I didn't. What are we talking about? Later, QD.

[Total_Blender]

** The headlights are in "test-mode" as we speak. Output is not as bright as the originals --- in fact, HI-BEAM is about what a normal aftermarket OEM replacement is on low. me to...
.

Run your stock headlight wires to trigger a relay. From the relay, you can run power directly from the battery to the headlights, using lower gauge (thicker) wire. Then they will burn a hole in the road;) . On old cars like the 1st. gen Civics the wiring isn't as heavy-duty as it needs to be to support higher output lighting. I had the same problem with the H4's I put in my old Jetta.:cheers:

I am on board with getting all the old-school imports together. I am into old VW's but the ATL VW scene is more focused around the newer models. I'd rather hear about TE-3 Corollas, 510's and Civic 1200's than I would MkIV Jetta's and EG civics :crazy:

[Total_Blender]

There's no re-drilling for the rear. Simple swap over from a DA or 88 Prelude. Heheh.
.

Don't you have to machine a bushing or sleeve of some sort for the different sized wheel bearings? Or did someone find a way around that?

I have a CVCC Delux gauge set I'm trying to sell, I want to test it and make sure it works, by hooking it up to a car. Your CVCC or Baby J's 1200 would work, I'll buy either of you the beverage of your choice for the trouble :goodjob:

[santacruz77]

here yall go

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/car/622104006.html

[Total_Blender]

here yall go

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/car/622104006.html

Yeah, that guy is on the 1st gen Civic forum. He's been trying to sell that thing for a while. If I had $$$$$ I'd be all over it. The 600's are much smaller in person than they look in photos :yes:

[santacruz77]

ya i know there tiny as hell..

and reps for being into old vw ;) i want to build a turbo beetle in the future.

[quickdodge®]

Don't you have to machine a bushing or sleeve of some sort for the different sized wheel bearings? Or did someone find a way around that?

Straight swap.


I have a CVCC Delux gauge set I'm trying to sell, I want to test it and make sure it works, by hooking it up to a car. Your CVCC or Baby J's 1200 would work, I'll buy either of you the beverage of your choice for the trouble :goodjob:

Ahhh gotcha. When mine comes out we'll see what's up. Later, QD.

[santacruz77]

roll cage, side drafts, 13x11s, huge box flares, built suspension is whats next for it right haha

[quickdodge®]

^^^ Shiiit no! Lolol. I'm not interested in all that. Later, QD.

[SleeperWRX]

JDM as fucc

[santacruz77]

no not jdm sorry.

and i know your not qd ha. you gonna be at the athens meet?

[quickdodge®]

If work permits. Depends on if I'm headed that way. Later, QD.

[SleeperWRX]

no not jdm sorry.

and i know your not qd ha. you gonna be at the athens meet?

umm ok,

Why would I be at the athens meet.

[quickdodge®]

umm ok,

Why would I be at the athens meet.

He was asking me, lolol. That's why he put in QD. Later, QD.

[SleeperWRX]

He was asking me, lolol. That's why he put in QD. Later, QD.


i c

lol

[BABY J]

http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r84/DOHCschwab/Shadyside%20Dragway/?action=view&current=MOV01083.flv

[Black Mamba]

just a random Q. Do these have any potential?

[BABY J]

D swap + gas will run 12s w/ a trap for mid 11s (traction limited). The B swaps are available as well.

[BABY J]

UP for pics of the wheels (as they looked when I purchased them). When they get back from wheel wizard they will look like ---> :ninja:


:D


Hmmmm --- wonder what these are? Oh -- I know... looks like some 185/60-13 Sumitomo HTR 200.
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/MUSIC_MAESTRO/1G/IMG00643.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/MUSIC_MAESTRO/1G/IMG00642.jpg
And what's this? Looks like the guys at Wheel Wizard took this:
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/MUSIC_MAESTRO/1G/SHELBY2.jpg
and then turned them into:
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/MUSIC_MAESTRO/1G/IMG00650.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/MUSIC_MAESTRO/1G/IMG00654.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/MUSIC_MAESTRO/1G/IMG00655.jpg

The pics look glossy b/c of the flash - but they are actually flat-black powder coat.
Stay tuned for the pics mounted on the car. :)

[.::UNKNOWN::.]

wheels look good man

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

I wouldn't have painted them.

booooooo !

[BABY J]

My hatch will be 2-stage flat black - there won't even be a chrome antenna or door handle or trim piece - ENTIRE car will be flat - and nothing will shine on it PERIOD. It will tie in w/ the theme quite nicely. ;)

[Random Hero]

I saw this car in person today...totally a SICK car.

He's done a great job with it! :goodjob:

[BABY J]

^^ A work in progress - but thank you.

[MistaCee]

I wouldn't have painted them.

booooooo !

x2

[Logan]

That is one hideous car.

Not hideous enough to be unique like a datsun or old corvair.

Just plain hideous.

I dig it. I like the headlights.

Nice.

[BABY J]

All in all I am happy. I am gonna run 175s instead of 185s in front. This way it will tuck better when I toss on my modified EF suspension. Also, I measured the inside of the cone (area where center cap connects) and I am gonna have Wheel Wizard cut that down, and weld a simple dome-topped cap - (I had to mount the wheels to see how much area to cut b/c of the hub) there as I am not a fan of the center cap. I also found the 1 company on the planet that makes Mag-Style (sheath) lugs in a 1.25 and in BLACK!!!! So they are on order as well. Then I will have the wheels re-powder-coated after the custom cap is welded on and smoothed. This time, I will also have the spokes smoothed a bit b4 the powder-coat.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/MUSIC_MAESTRO/1G/IMG00663.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/MUSIC_MAESTRO/1G/IMG006661.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/MUSIC_MAESTRO/1G/IMG006671.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/MUSIC_MAESTRO/1G/IMG006681.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/MUSIC_MAESTRO/1G/IMG006691.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/MUSIC_MAESTRO/1G/IMG006711.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/MUSIC_MAESTRO/1G/IMG006701.jpg

Also - I got the paint in from Alsa. I am going w/ their 2 stage flat (and a flat clear for paint protection). IMO it's the hottest flat-black on the market right now - and will NOT look like a rattle-can job. Here is an example, but I have better pics somewhere:

http://itsahardlifestyle.wordpress.com/2008/03/02/a-flat-black-avalanche/

[twinj]

All in all I am happy. I am gonna run 175s instead of 185s in front. This way it will tuck better when I toss on my modified EF suspension. Also, I measured the inside of the cone (area where center cap connects) and I am gonna have Wheel Wizard cut that down, and weld a simple dome-topped cap - (I had to mount the wheels to see how much area to cut b/c of the hub) there as I am not a fan of the center cap. I also found the 1 company on the planet that makes Mag-Style (sheath) lugs in a 1.25 and in BLACK!!!! So they are on order as well. Then I will have the wheels re-powder-coated after the custom cap is welded on and smoothed. This time, I will also have the spokes smoothed a bit b4 the powder-coat.

Also - I got the paint in from Alsa. I am going w/ their 2 stage flat (and a flat clear for paint protection). IMO it's the hottest flat-black on the market right now - and will NOT look like a rattle-can job. Here is an example, but I have better pics somewhere:


You know that car actually has potential. I have to seriously apologize for thinking it didn't. Looks good Baby J keep it up:goodjob: I want to see some more!pics.

[BABY J]

Oh yeah - stay tuned for:

1) front bumper tuck
2) integrate back-up lights into the rear bumper (like I did the fogs into the front)
3) rear bumper tuck
4) antenna block-off plate
5) paint (in conjunction w/ engine-bay smoothing)
6) built engine + tranny install
7) interior
8) drink beer

[BABY J]

^^ Okay I lied... I drink beer during all the steps.

[willum14pb]

who's the nigra?

[Big_Dave]

Cool car, good thread. If you know about Alsa corps flat black then enough said. Awesome paint! It's actually harder to do than glossy clear over black. No chance to buff out dust or moths. lol. I'm feeling the stealth look on the car, can't wait to see it done. Definately unique!

[mocha latte cupcake]

sigh. epic fail on the suggestion of rotas... sigh

that being said BABY J ON THE TRAK! ~i like the way rock them hips~ oops sorry, but yeah straight pimpin man! love the new HL and drop! can't wait to see whats next homie!

[Ol' Gregg]

i want that car.. it just screams CLASS! lol. but no really i do want it