what happens to a SRT-4 at 8000rpm

[jew_boy]

revving to 8000rpm (over the 6250 stock redline) and the clutch exploded.:no:

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[On_Her_Face]

bahahaha @ IMPORTS

[DarkG]

wow.. makes for a good story

[KPowerEP3]

It's the flywheel that did the damage.

[jew_boy]

bahahaha @ IMPORTS


how is it a import if its a dodge :thinking:

[On_Her_Face]

how is it a import if its a dodge :thinking:


cause most of the drivers rice out their rides and do other things just like honduh owners

imports.

[NAIZBST]

:lmfao:

[DieselNuts]

repost

[Echonova]

You're lucky you didn't blow the welds on the intake manifold...

[Tree]

there is one thing i can say.. you should have gotten a honda

[OneSlow5pt0]

You're lucky you didn't blow the welds on the intake manifold...

yea,cause replacing a floor board right before race wars will cost u alot

[green91]

If it doesnt happen on "domestics" why do so many guys use scatter shields.

[jew_boy]

by the way this isnt my car its a guy on a orlando forum

[seanrg1116]

why 8000rpm:???:

[jew_boy]

he thought it was a honda :D

[highspeed]

too much NOS fried the piston rings......Was that fun

[jew_boy]

too much NOS fried the piston rings......Was that fun


:thinking: is this a guess or what you think happened

[DeeAOne]

:thinking: is this a guess or what you think happened
:lmfao: you're an idiot.

its off the F&F movie...

[RBS]

wow, guess SRT4 owners should upgrade their stock clutch and flywheel before revving it so high

[jew_boy]

thats actually not a stock clutch

[jew_boy]

here is a few thing the owner said

"the entire motor is fully built and can handle it.
the person driving was the builder/tuner,he's the only one that we know and trust with tuning the ems.
the cluch was a dcr power shift v.2 clutch,commonly called the powerslip or powersh][t,but darrel himself looked over the photos,and is taking car of it,refunding the money for the $700 for the clutch,he says he has another low mile tranny at the shop,we are hoping he throws in one is his $1000 aluminum intake mani's and he is going to take care of everything else as well once the car is all takin apart.
and revving that high isnt a problem for the car at all,and most other fully built srt's the turbo at the time was a turbonetics 50trim with a .63 exhaust,the main turbo is a borg warner s256 which on a simlar set up made 516 wheel hp @ 26psi.
the car was already sub 600hp but after all this the hopes are even higher."


here is the actual post if you want to read up on it

http://www.orlandoforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93166

[Z33_kid]

yea i knew it woulda went ka-poop sucks n damn made a hole in the hood.... SHIET !!!!

[Ronsam2006]

What happens to an SRT-4 at 8000rpm? The same thing that happens to an RX-7 at 50,000 rpm...

[psycho_freke]

When will they ever learn? Idc what you do to it, it's still a dodge!

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[allmotoronly]

lmao its pretty sad that the clutch/flywheel can't handle 8k rpm. A stock civic dx clutch will handle 8k easily.

Lesson of the day: Dont drive anything made by a car manufacturer whose name means to avoid.

[BB1_Luda]

lmao
Lesson of the day: Dont drive anything made by a car manufacturer whose name means to avoid.

rofl :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:
That made me laugh.

+u

[man]

What happens to an SRT-4 at 8000rpm? The same thing that happens to an RX-7 at 50,000 rpm...

Shhhh.....

[EssAreTwenTee]

lmao its pretty sad that the clutch/flywheel can't handle 8k rpm. A stock civic dx clutch will handle 8k easily.

Lesson of the day: Dont drive anything made by a car manufacturer whose name means to avoid.

ah yes a comparison to the mighty civic:gay:

the point people are missing is why did he feel the need to rev it to 8k when his powerband maxed out around 6k.

[BABY J]

^^^ PICK ME!!! I KNOW!!!! The answer is because...


revs for the sake of revs > usable revs

[allmotoronly]

ah yes a comparison to the mighty civic:gay:

the point people are missing is why did he feel the need to rev it to 8k when his powerband maxed out around 6k.


you mean a comparison to the UNmighty civic. The point I was trying to make was that a 98hp base model civic comes with better stuff from the factory than dodge's top of the line sport compact.

I wouldn't drive a civic, and I surely would NOT drive anything made by dodge.

[stillaneon]

you mean a comparison to the UNmighty civic. The point I was trying to make was that a 98hp base model civic comes with better stuff from the factory than dodge's top of the line sport compact.

I wouldn't drive a civic, and I surely would NOT drive anything made by dodge.

Judging by the name you just seem adverse to real power. This guy was an idiot and shouldn't have revved to 8k. The car doesn't need it and I get plenty of power shifting at 5500 to 6000.

It has nothing to do with Dodge considering the motor is made by Mitsubishi,

Brilliant

Oh, and I am not a dodge enthusiast. I actually hate my neon but It's quick and fun. It should be rwd or awd. but for a sports car, its hard to beat stock for the price

[Evil Goat]

so all that money in the setup and he didnt get a $200 scattershield? lulz at this genious

[jew_boy]

ok her is the guy excuse when he was driving the car

"Today I finally raised the rev limit on the Orange to 8000 (EMS, forged pistons, rods and BC3 cams). I've shifted at 7500-7700 a few times today; no more than 15 max, and only twice at 8000 (to get it on video). I was on the way home tonight, got the itch and stood on it in third gear.

At ~7700, I started pushing the clutch pedal down. About a quarter of the way down, the clutch pedal went limp and slammed to the floor. At the same time, I watched something shoot through the hood, the engine died and a smoke trail followed me until I pulled over to the side of the road. Luckily, the smoke was from the transmission fluid covering the exhaust, not a fire.

I called AAA for a tow, then collected pieces of the DCR stage II clutch from the roadway while waiting. The transmission, clutch, intake manifold, radiator fans, radiator, hood and engine harness are destroyed. My friends saw the whole thing from about 100 feet back. Lots of sparks, parts flying, tranny fluid everywhere. The clutch had about 2000 miles on it."

[allmotoronly]

Judging by the name you just seem adverse to real power. This guy was an idiot and shouldn't have revved to 8k. The car doesn't need it and I get plenty of power shifting at 5500 to 6000.

It has nothing to do with Dodge considering the motor is made by Mitsubishi,

Brilliant

Oh, and I am not a dodge enthusiast. I actually hate my neon but It's quick and fun. It should be rwd or awd. but for a sports car, its hard to beat stock for the price

adverse to real power??? lolololol. How the hell do you know what I have and what power it makes?

It has everything to do with dodge. They chose to use that engine. Who cares who built it. Its in a dodge vehicle. It's their reputation on the line.

[Ronsam2006]

adverse to real power??? lolololol. How the hell do you know what I have and what power it makes?

It has everything to do with dodge. They chose to use that engine. Who cares who built it. Its in a dodge vehicle. It's their reputation on the line.
Very true about the engine part.

[EssAreTwenTee]

adverse to real power??? lolololol. How the hell do you know what I have and what power it makes?

It has everything to do with dodge. They chose to use that engine. Who cares who built it. Its in a dodge vehicle. It's their reputation on the line.

wtf does this have to do with dodge?? you may worship imports but you missed a crucial part here. HE HAD AN AFTERMARKET CLUTCH NOT MADE BY DODGE. Dodge didnt put their name on it, recommend it, endorse it, or tell the guy to put it in his car. The stock clutch is fine. I'm putting down 320hp on pump gas and still using my stock clutch with no problems. So before you bash something at least know something about it.

also its not a mitsu engine
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/24.html

[UpSideDownDesi]

i think he forgot he doesn't have VTEC....

[Nah Mean?]

stock six puck clutched come in regular neons.

right?

[stillaneon]

wtf does this have to do with dodge?? you may worship imports but you missed a crucial part here. HE HAD AN AFTERMARKET CLUTCH NOT MADE BY DODGE. Dodge didnt put their name on it, recommend it, endorse it, or tell the guy to put it in his car. The stock clutch is fine. I'm putting down 320hp on pump gas and still using my stock clutch with no problems. So before you bash something at least know something about it.

also its not a mitsu engine
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/24.html

Hmm, I read somewhere that the A853 was a Mitsu motor. oh well cant find it. thanks for the info:goodjob:

[JITB]

i bet the flywheel bolts werent torqued, and maybe came loose, and just caused all hell. i dont think it has nothin to do with the car, it was something someone did when they put it back together.

[On_Her_Face]

Judging by the name you just seem adverse to real power. This guy was an idiot and shouldn't have revved to 8k. The car doesn't need it and I get plenty of power shifting at 5500 to 6000.

It has nothing to do with Dodge considering the motor is made by Mitsubishi,

Brilliant

Oh, and I am not a dodge enthusiast. I actually hate my neon but It's quick and fun. It should be rwd or awd. but for a sports car, its hard to beat stock for the price

EVEN WORSE! LOL
































:ninja:

[Member31410]

^^LOL

[Member31410]

Built cars of all makes and models break all the time. It's funny that the tards in this thread think that only Dodges break. Sometimes I wonder how it is to be as smart as a door knob but then again, it's too nice being me.

[On_Her_Face]

i heard member31410's srt-4 revs up to 11k, no problem

[OneSlow5pt0]

i heard member31410's srt-4 revs up to 11k, no problem

true story.....so does the vette still pull hard at 9k?

[allmotoronly]

wtf does this have to do with dodge?? you may worship imports but you missed a crucial part here. HE HAD AN AFTERMARKET CLUTCH NOT MADE BY DODGE. Dodge didnt put their name on it, recommend it, endorse it, or tell the guy to put it in his car. The stock clutch is fine. I'm putting down 320hp on pump gas and still using my stock clutch with no problems. So before you bash something at least know something about it.

also its not a mitsu engine
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/24.html

wft are you talking about???? I don't worship imports. I actually own two americal made vehicles, and as of yesterday, no imports. I understand that he had a aftermarket clutch. Its still funny that when the clutch came apart it did all that damage. I've had a cluch come apart before, and it didn't do anything but scar up the inside of the bellhousing.

My original arguement was that a stock civic clutch was better than whatever that guy had, stock or not. My main point was that for a 4 cylinder, those engines don't rev very high. The fact that **** comes apart at 8k is just funny to me. I dont care how much HP you make in your SRT, its still a neon. the average person can't tell the difference between a SRT4 and a base model neon.

[Just_CHill]

wft are you talking about???? I don't worship imports. I actually own two americal made vehicles, and as of yesterday, no imports. I understand that he had a aftermarket clutch. Its still funny that when the clutch came apart it did all that damage. I've had a cluch come apart before, and it didn't do anything but scar up the inside of the bellhousing.

My original arguement was that a stock civic clutch was better than whatever that guy had, stock or not. My main point was that for a 4 cylinder, those engines don't rev very high. The fact that **** comes apart at 8k is just funny to me. I dont care how much HP you make in your SRT, its still a neon. the average person can't tell the difference between a SRT4 and a base model neon.


Well that's until they get smoked by one..............

[EssAreTwenTee]

wft are you talking about???? I don't worship imports. I actually own two americal made vehicles, and as of yesterday, no imports. I understand that he had a aftermarket clutch. Its still funny that when the clutch came apart it did all that damage. I've had a cluch come apart before, and it didn't do anything but scar up the inside of the bellhousing.

My original arguement was that a stock civic clutch was better than whatever that guy had, stock or not. My main point was that for a 4 cylinder, those engines don't rev very high. The fact that **** comes apart at 8k is just funny to me. I dont care how much HP you make in your SRT, its still a neon. the average person can't tell the difference between a SRT4 and a base model neon.

I'm not sure you even know what your point is. So you've had a clutch come apart before and not destroy your engine bay. Big deal. You want a cookie? I guess that means anytime someone pops a clutch it shouldnt do damage right? And I dont recall you mentioning anything about the engine not revving high in your previous dodge bashing, but still fail to see what it has to do with anything. srt4s make plenty of power keeping it under 6500 so why do they need to go any higher? If I wanted to rev to 6million rpms I'd buy a rotary. As for people not knowing the difference between a srt4 and a neon, could it be because a srt4 is a neon? but then i guess dodge is the only one that builds sport compact versions of an economy car

[Member31410]

I'm not sure you even know what your point is.

Quoted fo troof!!! :goodjob:


And I dont recall you mentioning anything about the engine not revving high in your previous dodge bashing, but still fail to see what it has to do with anything. srt4s make plenty of power keeping it under 6500 so why do they need to go any higher? If I wanted to rev to 6million rpms I'd buy a rotary.

Hallelujah! atlsrt44, I guess we just found out why we Neons get shunned by the ricers. We can't rev high enough to their liking. :cry: So what if their stock Civics peak at a staggering 98 hp at 8K, at least they can rev to 8K while sitting at a parking lot meet. Don't you just envy them like I do?


As for people not knowing the difference between a srt4 and a neon, could it be because a srt4 is a neon?

Praise the lawd!!11

I sure hope the guy is really not a dunderhead but just trolling. If he really is one, then oh my....


i heard member31410's srt-4 revs up to 11k, no problem

You heard right. I also have VTAK too from a JDM red (with yellow polka dots :eek:) top swap. Shhhhhh, don't tell anybody though. My VTAK is set at 18K. I've hit VTAK and double VTAK (36K) :eek: a few times already. When it hits, oh my goshers!!! It's like a master call for all them 98 hp 8K revving stock Civic ricers to start revving wherever they are.

[AnthonyF]

damn....some1 could have gotton really hurt! I am actually really considering getting an SRT-4 after the rustang. I always wanted one...

[BUGMAN]

i bet the flywheel bolts werent torqued, and maybe came loose, and just caused all hell. i dont think it has nothin to do with the car, it was something someone did when they put it back together.

Agreed 100% and it doesn't have anything to do with Dodge either.

When I saw the first few pictures I was thinking maybe the crank broke or something. The clutch doesn't look like it came apart inside but rather got bent up and broke on the way out.

[Bruce Leroy]

My original arguement was that a stock civic clutch was better than whatever that guy had, stock or not.


What stock civic clutch do you know of that can hold 240+ ft/lbs of tq????

[Terror]

Judging by the name you just seem adverse to real power. This guy was an idiot and shouldn't have revved to 8k. The car doesn't need it and I get plenty of power shifting at 5500 to 6000.

It has nothing to do with Dodge considering the motor is made by Mitsubishi,

Brilliant

Oh, and I am not a dodge enthusiast. I actually hate my neon but It's quick and fun. It should be rwd or awd. but for a sports car, its hard to beat stock for the price

Im not a dodge enthuiast either. but i love my neon. and ive had bunches of other cars. they make great power, good price and fun yes. but no.. it shouldnt be rwd or awd. its a sport compact. not a vette, 240, wrx. im sorry you openly hate your neon because other people dont accept it and youd feel cooler in a 240. sell it. make 175 wheel with an sr20 :)

at least then people will think your car is TIGHT!.

cause thats all its about anyway right?

[Terror]

What stock civic clutch do you know of that can hold 240+ ft/lbs of tq????

+1 im not bashing yours or any other honda allmota. but. 60 ft lbs of tourque wont do that. and in the pictures. thats an agp .50 trim turbo. minimum. the car is probabley making a minimum of 450 ft lbs of tourque and somewhere equal in hp. im willing to bet it was the power of the car during a wot shift. not the rpm range. that would cause the clutch and flywheel to defragment like that. not 8k rpm.

[allmotoronly]

As for people not knowing the difference between a srt4 and a neon, could it be because a srt4 is a neon?

Can you read? I said people can not tell the difference between a SRT4 and a base model neon. I never said the srt4 wasn't a neon. Why the hell are you getting so defensive? All I said was that it was funny that all that **** broke from reving to 8k and exploding the clutch. I never said anything about you or your car *******. There's no reason for a personal attack. I agree with you that there was no point in that guy taking the engine to 8k rpm. I never said that you have to rev that high to make power. I just thought it was pretty funny that his **** came apart at 8k.

[allmotoronly]

+1 im not bashing yours or any other honda allmota. but. 60 ft lbs of tourque wont do that. and in the pictures. thats an agp .50 trim turbo. minimum. the car is probabley making a minimum of 450 ft lbs of tourque and somewhere equal in hp. im willing to bet it was the power of the car during a wot shift. not the rpm range. that would cause the clutch and flywheel to defragment like that. not 8k rpm.

I agree that it was more likely a WOT shift at 8k, not just going up to 8k. Its just the point that the car wasn't designed to go that high, and neither was the aftermarket clutch he had I guess. I've made a WOT shift at around 7k rpm in a car that had similar hp and torque, and probably weighed twice as much, without any damage. Its just seems odd to me that even at that power the clutch would come apart like it did. It doesn't happen much unless your flywheel and clutch are old and worn thinner than the recommended specs.

[Code-Aye]

there is one thing i can say.. you should have gotten a honda

x2

[allmotoronly]

My original arguement was that a stock civic clutch was better than whatever that guy had, stock or not. My main point was that for a 4 cylinder, those engines don't rev very high. The fact that **** comes apart at 8k is just funny to me.

your car doesnt make enough power to ride a clutch w/o stalling. these engines were designed to make power, not rev high. funny thing is most weed wackers rev to 12k rpm. funny coincidence?


I dont care how much HP you make in your SRT, its still a neon. the average person can't tell the difference between a SRT4 and a base model neon.[/QUOTE]

dont you drive an old civic? come on dude.... " oh yeah well my ej1 has more horse power per liter" ROFL who gives a ****.
I don't own a honda. thats allmota. I don't own any imports right now.

[Terror]

I don't own a honda. thats allmota. I have a Trans AM, a Hummer H3, and I had a GSR as a dd, but I sold it.

Then why bashing the SRTs like that?

[allmotoronly]

Then why bashing the SRTs like that?

Because all SRT owners that I know (and I'm not saying this applies to all SRT owners in general) think they are hot **** and their car is the most ****ing awesome car in the whole city. They ride around popping the bov 23424524 times to sound cool. Then, everytime I want to race one of them in my Trans Am, they have some excuse that their car has something wrong with it and they can't race. It just gave me the impression that those cars aren't very reliable.

[Terror]

Because all SRT owners that I know (and I'm not saying this applies to all SRT owners in general) think they are hot **** and their car is the most ****ing awesome car in the whole city. They ride around popping the bov 23424524 times to sound cool. Then, everytime I want to race one of them in my Trans Am, they have some excuse that their car has something wrong with it and they can't race. It just gave me the impression that those cars aren't very reliable.

I guess i see what you mean. ive had a few cars before this one and experienced the douches your reffering to. I really like the cars themselves, mechanically. everyone has theyre right to an opinion i guess i just got offended because im used to honda owners with the whole "i dont care how much power you make its still a neon" "its a dodge, they have bad quality" thing. it gets irritating. i misunderstood.

[SleeperWRX]

Because all SRT owners that I know (and I'm not saying this applies to all SRT owners in general) think they are hot **** and their car is the most ****ing awesome car in the whole city. They ride around popping the bov 23424524 times to sound cool. Then, everytime I want to race one of them in my Trans Am, they have some excuse that their car has something wrong with it and they can't race. It just gave me the impression that those cars aren't very reliable.


:yes::yes:

[allmotoronly]

I guess i see what you mean. ive had a few cars before this one and experienced the douches your reffering to. I really like the cars themselves, mechanically. everyone has theyre right to an opinion i guess i just got offended because im used to honda owners with the whole "i dont care how much power you make its still a neon" "its a dodge, they have bad quality" thing. it gets irritating. i misunderstood.


I think its like that with a lot of cars. Theres always the owners who think they are hot **** and make the rest look bad. Thats why I never modded my GSR I used to have. I didn't want to be associated with those integra owners who think they are hot ****, making the rest of us look bad.

[Terror]

true story...

[Farrow2005]

Quoted fo troof!!! :goodjob:



Hallelujah! atlsrt44, I guess we just found out why we Neons get shunned by the ricers. We can't rev high enough to their liking. :cry: So what if their stock Civics peak at a staggering 98 hp at 8K, at least they can rev to 8K while sitting at a parking lot meet. Don't you just envy them like I do?



Praise the lawd!!11

I sure hope the guy is really not a dunderhead but just trolling. If he really is one, then oh my....



You heard right. I also have VTAK too from a JDM red (with yellow polka dots :eek:) top swap. Shhhhhh, don't tell anybody though. My VTAK is set at 18K. I've hit VTAK and double VTAK (36K) :eek: a few times already. When it hits, oh my goshers!!! It's like a master call for all them 98 hp 8K revving stock Civic ricers to start revving wherever they are.

+1

ROFL MY COPTER!!!

made my day. for realz.

[JITB]

my mom has owned 3 chryslers and theyhave held up threw the years, her pt is on 170k, and runs great.. only major work was a timing belt.. But, its obvious what happened as i stated before, something came aloose, probrably flywheel bolt...which noone ever torques down right...and it came aloose and ****ed up everything. My friends had a neon, he did the 2.4 swap, and his flywheel bolt did something similar but he stopped before it did that much damage. as fragile as honda bottom ends are you all have no room to talk...lol

[RUFFIAN]

bahahaha @ IMPORTS...................... :thinking: Those pics made me feel all sick and light headed. The carnage was to much to bear :cry: :no: .

[TehHakingS14]

thats the only way to drive man, 2000 rpms over reline all day long...WOOT

[FRYLOCK]

well actually it makes no sense why the dumbass was revving that high bc it dont make power after like 6500 NOOBS

[R32Dragon]

lmao its pretty sad that the clutch/flywheel can't handle 8k rpm. A stock civic dx clutch will handle 8k easily.

wait wait...so your saying stock Civic DX clutches can hold that kinda trq/hp and still hold up period? :thinking:


404: Logic not found

[Bruce Leroy]

I'm trying to figure out why everyone thinks that A built srt-4, revving to 8k is stupid???? :thinking:

If it has the cams to make the power up there... I don't see the problem....

Big turbo + low redline + short gears = gay



On a side note... I'm 90% sure I've seen that car in person, and if it is its no joke.

[hybrid90accord]

I'm trying to figure out why everyone thinks that A built srt-4, revving to 8k is stupid???? :thinking:

If it has the cams to make the power up there... I don't see the problem....

Big turbo + low redline + short gears = gay



On a side note... I'm 90% sure I've seen that car in person, and if it is its no joke.

I ws thinking the same thing