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KPowerEP3
04-04-2008, 02:28 AM
I received this in an email from GeorgiaCarry.Org (http://www.georgiacarry.org) (which you should join if you're not a member), which is a group fighting for 2nd Amendment rights here in GA. They've already done quite a bit in their short history.

Tomorrow may change Georgia law significantly. GCO expects that HB 257, as amended to authorize carry in restaurants and on mass transit, will come out of committee and pass the Senate and then the House. GCO also expects the older, Senate version of the House will report out of committee and pass through the Senate and then the House.

In this issue:

(1) What This Means If Successful

(2) GCO, Sen. Douglas, and Alice Johnson All in One News Video

(3) Why You May Soon Carry at Kennesaw Mountain

(4) An AJC Poll on HB 257

(5) Another Story on Sen. Fort's Maneuver Yesterday

(6) Peachpundit is "Uncomfortable"

(7) GCO Victory over Fulton County!

(8) GCO In The Courtroom

(1) What This Means If Successful

(a) Restaurants will no longer be public gatherings. You may not consume alcoholic beverages while carrying a firearm, however. Carry in restaurants has been the number one concern of GCO members, and this will address it.

(b) MARTA and other mass transit systems will be decriminalized for those holding a firearms license. This will not override any federal laws. Current law provides for 20 years in prison for having a firearm at a bus stop, so this change will rid GCO members of the most draconian penalty in the Code for having a firearm in the wrong place with no intent to harm anyone.

(c) State Parks, historic sites, and recreational areas under the control of the DNR will no longer be off limits. GCO is hopeful that the final vesion will include the public buildings, as well, so that GCO members do not have to suffer the indignity of "holding it" rather than visiting the public restroom facilities. The public building change is also necessary to keep GCO members from becoming unintentional lawbreakers when leaving their firearm behind in a vehicle adjacent to the building where one purchases the parking pass. The parks change also means that once the Department of the Interior makes the expected change to have National Parks reflect state law, the 12 National Parks in Georgia will no longer be off limits.

(d) People eligible for a license will be able to put a gun anywhere inside a motor vehicle.

(e) Straw purchases will become a state level crime, which will stop Mayor Bloomberg and others like him from coming into Georgia.

(f) Probate judges will have only 10 days to issue a license once the background check returns, and there will be strict timelines for beginning the investigative process (2 business days). This is something that most probate judges are doing now, thanks to GCO, but hopefully this legislation will take care of the few around the state who are still delaying this process.

GCO spent a significant amount of time at the Capitol today (in addition to the GCO lobbyists that are at the Capitol everyday), and we expect these measures to pass tomorrow.

(2) GCO, Sen. Douglas, and Alice Johnson All in One News Video

CBS46News managed to place notorious anti-liberty Alice Johnson, from "Georgians for Gun Safety," Sen. Douglas, who carried the amendments to HB 257 in the Senate Wednesday, and Ed Stone, the President of GCO, all into the same news segment. You may watch it here.

http://www.cbs46.com/video/15786558/index.html?taf=lnta

For those who were not aware of it, Sen. Douglas is a proud GCO member (and yes, we had his permission to disclose that).

(3) Why You May Soon Carry at Kennesaw Mountain

The mass media has finally keyed in on the fact that repealing the ban on State Parks is soon going to mean it will no longer be criminal to carry in a National Park. Here is a story today from the AJC. http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/shared-blogs/ajc/politicalinsider/entries/2008/04/03/why_you_soon_may_be_allowed_to.html

Friday is about to become a very big payday for gun rights advocates.

Here’s the deal:

Two bills will move, not one. H.B. 257, which now permits those with concealed weapons permits to carry in restaurants and on rail and bus systems, is but one chunk.

H.B. 89 will also move. . . .

Right now, chances of passage for both must be rated very good. Opposition is scarce. Joe Fleming, lobbyist for the Georgia chamber, says his group will be focused H.B. 89, to make sure the parking lots language doesn’t change.

Whether restaurant groups, MARTA and other transit systems raise objections — and raise them quickly enough — will determine whether H.B. 257 has tough sledding.

. . .

The language redefining “public gatherings” where firearms remain prohibited has been abandoned. You will not be permitted to carry a concealed weapon into church.

But the bill will:

— Require expedited treatment for concealed weapons permits by the probate court judges who issue them;

— Relax state restrictions on where firearms can be stored in vehicles;

— Make “straw” purchases of firearms illegal — a way of prohibiting lawsuits of the type filed by New York against gun dealers in Georgia, alleging they are sources for weapons that flow into states where buying a gun is much more difficult or time-consuming.

— And it will allow licensed concealed weapons to be carried in state parks and historical sites.

This last part is important, and here’s why:

U.S. Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne has said his department would suggest new regulations by the end of this month that would amount to the biggest relaxation of gun-toting rules in federal parks in more than a century.

Basically, he said that concealed weapons would be permitted — if the U.S. parks are located in states that permit carrying in their parks. So passage of H.B. 89 would insure that, someday soon, visitors to Kennesaw National Battlefield Park and the federal Chattahoochee River park would also be able to carry concealed.

GCO's take on this article: This is good news! Even the liberal media is now predicting we will win. Watch the General Assembly closely tomorrow. We have a historic chance to change the law in Georgia in favor of the right to bear arms in a way that has never before been accomplished in this State.

KPowerEP3
04-06-2008, 09:47 PM
Update, Kiddos. We at GCO did it!

Atlanta, April 4, 2008: GeorgiaCarry.org, Inc. (GCO) is proud to announce the passage of the
most significant reform in Georgia’s firearms laws in 20 years. After being forced to a
Conference Committee by the Georgia Senate in February, the fate of HB 89 was uncertain.
After much work at the grassroots level by both GeorgiaCarry.org and Rep. Tim Bearden (R-68),
an agreement was reached by the members of the Conference Committee from both
chambers.
The most notable changes in the bill are provisions allowing those in possession of a valid
Georgia Firearms License (GFL) to carry firearms in restaurants serving alcohol where more than
50% of revenue is derived from the sale of food, in State Parks, and on public transportation. The
restrictions placed on these new provisions prohibit GFL holders from consuming alcoholic
beverages while carrying a firearm in any establishment serving alcohol as well as from carrying
in places prohibited under Federal law as it pertains to public transportation. Other changes
include allowing those eligible to obtain a GFL the ability to possess a firearm anywhere in their
motor vehicle, provisions relating to the timely issuance of GFL’s, and a straw purchase penalty
for those purchasing firearms intended for disqualified persons.
Despite strong opposition from gun control advocacy groups, these changes to the existing laws
do nothing more than bring Georgia up to par with a majority of states as to where firearms may
lawfully be carried. In relation to restaurants serving alcohol, State Parks, and public
transportation, these changes make Georgia the 38th, 37th, and 44th state respectively.
Rep. Tim Bearden, who originally authored HB 89 during the 2007 legislative session, was very
quick to point out, “The changes we have made to the law affect only law abiding Georgians.

SiFA5
04-07-2008, 03:18 AM
That's good news for those able to obtain GFL.
What sucks for me is I was busted with a joint over 10 years ago and now I can't ever get a permit. What a load of ****! I wish they would change that part of the law that pardons/forgives for poss. Charges after like ten or fifteen years. I understand it would look bad to give drug users/dealers carry permits, but come on. I haven't touched any illegal drug in over 10 years.

ahmonrah
04-07-2008, 01:44 PM
:dj:

hell yeah!

tone456
04-08-2008, 01:52 PM
does anyone know when this goes into effect? does it have to go across Purdue's desk first?

tone456
04-08-2008, 01:54 PM
answered my own question...

From the Georgia Carry Website:

Success!
Saturday, April 5th, 2008

Thanks to your efforts, HB 89 was passed in two landslide votes!

HB 89 is on its way to the Governor to sign. Beginning July 1, it will no longer be a crime for GCO Members to bear firearms in restaurants that serve alcohol, State Parks (and the buildings thereon), Wildlife Management Areas, and on mass transit. This victory would not have been possible without the diligent efforts and leadership of GCO members Sen. John Douglas and, of course, Rep. Tim Bearden.

After the bill passed, Rep. Tim Bearden stated that your contacts made a difference on Friday when the situation appeared bleak.

You may watch Sen. Chip Rogers field hostile questions during the debate and final vote at the following link.

ShooterMcGavin
04-14-2008, 10:35 AM
problem is sonny still hasn't signed this yet.....and he's gettin a lot of **** from a bunch of ****tarded restaurant owners...