View Full Version : Power Mods BASE Lancer 16g swap :)
TheShortBus
03-16-2008, 06:14 AM
I'm currently in the process of installing my custom turbo set-up for my 2003 Lancer OZ.
-16g out of an evo 8
-evo 8 fmic, piping, bov, ect..
-evo megan racing mani with a 4G94 Flange Welded to it
-440cc wrx injectors
-255 walbro fuel pump
anyway, im hoping to run 10psi (4g94's pretty much blow after 13) i should have it all finished up in the next week or so and im lookin for a place to get my ecu flashed. i live in kennesaw, but anything in the Atlanta area will pretty much work. any advice on a good shop will be much appriciated
ill be sure to post up some pics and numbers when i get everything working
00CelicaGT
03-16-2008, 09:47 AM
try battleground, their a sponsor on here. just go to the sponsors section and post up wat services u need.
G/L
wOZrally
03-16-2008, 09:53 AM
10psi? i thought the limit for lancers were 7psi
NAIZBST
03-16-2008, 10:20 AM
:werd:
TheShortBus
03-16-2008, 05:24 PM
try battleground, their a sponsor on here. just go to the sponsors section and post up wat services u need.
G/L
yeah found em, didnt look around good enough when i first got on here. but thanks.
TheShortBus
03-16-2008, 05:28 PM
10psi? i thought the limit for lancers were 7psi
and no. thats just what most kits the sell run at useing t25's and t28's, 16g is a bigger turbo as well. When Raod/Race Motorsports first started boosting lancers back in 2001 or so, they turned it all the way up to 13 before they blew a rod. pluss there are plenty a of guys running 9-10psi with stock internals that i know of.
RandomGuy
03-16-2008, 05:41 PM
yessir
that td05hr 16g will support 380hp if im not mistaken
TheShortBus
03-16-2008, 06:40 PM
yessir
that td05hr 16g will support 380hp if im not mistaken
yupp.
im goin for 215-225whp. duno if thats a long shot, but ive also got some other basic bolt ons to help.
Paree4g63
03-16-2008, 07:28 PM
should've just got a EVO! Stock evo's peak stock boost is 19psi at 3500rpm..Tapers to 16psi after Mid end. But there are ways to change that if you get it tuned/flashed. EVO FTW
TheShortBus
03-16-2008, 07:38 PM
ok we US Lancer guys get that enough on the lancer forums... no its not awd, no its not a stock turbo car, yes an evo is a much better platform to start from... but its not an evo...:goodjob:. not to mention not everyone has 20k for a car.
Paree4g63
03-19-2008, 09:13 PM
ok we US Lancer guys get that enough on the lancer forums... no its not awd, no its not a stock turbo car, yes an evo is a much better platform to start from... but its not an evo...:goodjob:. not to mention not everyone has 20k for a car.
if u got the money to add mods to ur car..and can find a better job.. ur good 2 go!:goodjob: sometimes u gotta sacrifice to live!
TheShortBus
03-20-2008, 01:44 AM
first off my cars only worth like 8grand and the turbo set up ive got cost under 2.. not to mention insurance for a 19year old..
Stormhammer
03-20-2008, 03:53 AM
ok we US Lancer guys get that enough on the lancer forums... no its not awd, no its not a stock turbo car, yes an evo is a much better platform to start from... but its not an evo...:goodjob:. not to mention not everyone has 20k for a car.
try 30 for a used one now. its ****ing ridiculous
TheShortBus
03-22-2008, 10:45 PM
well just a little update. got most all the parts, but just waitin on the fule pump, ic piping, and down pipe to come.
still dont have to much done, but the car is torn down and ready for everything to go in. i got the manifold installed, as well as the intercooler, and put the oil feed line in today too. :D
megan racing mani with 4g94 flange tacked on
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1510/img00104rj9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
evo8 intercooler.
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2728/img00107wu6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
oil feed line
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3901/img00108cx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
ct9a gsr
03-26-2008, 04:13 PM
If you need an Evo8 16g, I have one for sale.
TheShortBus
03-26-2008, 06:01 PM
im good, ive already got everything.
thx though
TheShortBus
03-28-2008, 07:37 PM
IC piping installed
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/962/img00115kw3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
custome fabed evo 8 down pipe installed
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/953/img00117sm5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
catless turbo-back exhaust w/ dc-sports 3'' catback
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/46/img00119wj3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
TheShortBus
03-28-2008, 07:42 PM
few other random build up and parts pics
installed my prosports
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3307/img00122qv8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
turbo and other misc parts
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7355/dsc00771mv0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
when i first broke everything down for the install
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8357/img00081ap1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9675/img00085dz8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
TheShortBus
04-01-2008, 07:36 PM
440cc wrx injectors installed
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/7091/img00130ob3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
AnthonyF
04-02-2008, 09:25 AM
remove those front weights off the frame support. You'll lose 15-20 lbs.
I give u a lot of props doing that. Its amazing you guys can do this on the ground. I have a shop and i dont think i could ever work on the ground.
SouthSide Tay
04-02-2008, 02:04 PM
remove those front weights off the frame support. You'll lose 15-20 lbs.
I give u a lot of props doing that. Its amazing you guys can do this on the ground. I have a shop and i dont think i could ever work on the ground.
ahh.....its not as bad as it seems especially when its your car.u actually have the motivation to get up under there
TheShortBus
04-02-2008, 05:00 PM
remove those front weights off the frame support. You'll lose 15-20 lbs.
I give u a lot of props doing that. Its amazing you guys can do this on the ground. I have a shop and i dont think i could ever work on the ground.
yeah i had to take them off along with the crash bar to get the IC to fit.
n thx. im pretty sure im the first one in GA to do it. and there are only a a few turboed lancers in the south but they are all premade kits that i know of. and trust me i would die to have a lift :cheers:, but it really isnt that bad if you know your car well.
VickNotic
04-06-2008, 09:24 PM
hmm I like this body style .. most... i wish i can get one of the EVO IV GSR models over form japan .. to the US .. propsss and hopefully i get to see it .. ..... Kennesaw FTW muahaahaaa
TheShortBus
04-06-2008, 10:38 PM
yeah i just got it running tonight. runs like ****, but it runs none the less :D
Nismo
04-07-2008, 07:23 PM
What happens if you boost spike? Wont you blow the engine up? Why not tune it down to 8psi? It should be pretty quick i would assume for an OZ lancer at that point, wouldn't it?
TheShortBus
04-07-2008, 07:41 PM
true, but it would have to spike up 4 psi to hurt anything. but you do have a good point. either way once i get about 2g's more im gunna beef up the motor and run 18-20 :).
there is a guy on the lancer forums who did that and is running 19 with 308 to the wheels
right now i just want to do 10 so i can hit the 200whp mark
wow... i have seen a lot of lancer guys talk **** how they are gonna turbo their lancer but never seen one actually do it.
props to you. i'd love to see this either irl or pictures... seeing as though you are in kennesaw maybe one day we can meet up.
reps for you.
TheShortBus
04-10-2008, 05:09 PM
thx man, its always nice to get props from an evo driver. we still get nothing but **** from them (turboed or not) on the lancer forums.
but yeah im gettin tuned sometime next week at batlground
TheShortBus
04-11-2008, 06:32 AM
so i just pulled another all nighter finishing up all the wiring and everything else is pretty much done. tomorrow im goin to the exhaust shop to get my down pipe flange fixed so it lines up better with the exhaust, got my greddy rs bov coming in the mail, and have an appointment at batlground to get tuned on the 23rd :D. so ill post some finished picks later and will throw up some numbers after i get it tuned
TheShortBus
04-12-2008, 11:52 PM
help?
ok so my boost gauge is reading -12 to -10 at idle, but ive herd it should me more like -18 to -22..
ive got my boost gauge, bov, and fmu all tied into the same vacuum line and was told that shouldn't effect anything. and ive checked for leaks and have hose clamps on every hose.
not sure whats up..
TheShortBus
04-13-2008, 12:48 AM
anyone have any input??
Nismo
04-14-2008, 05:22 PM
What kind of Boost gauge are you using?
TheShortBus
04-15-2008, 03:52 AM
its a prosport digital gauge
TheShortBus
04-15-2008, 04:02 AM
http://prosportgauges.com/Digital-boost-1.aspx
^^heres the gauge i have. i feel dumb now cuz i looked at the site and it only goes down to -14. im usually reading -12 to -10 at idle. so since it only goes down that far is that a problem?
TheShortBus
04-15-2008, 04:05 AM
ok so i just looked at it again... it reads -14Hg (Mercury) to +45psi.
my dads an engineer and was try to explain something about Mercury with gauge pressure and what now, but im pretty slow in the head when in comes to science n that kind of stuff... :P. so yeah anyone want to explain it in "moron terms"?
stu93gsx
04-23-2008, 09:10 PM
Have u thought about getting slightly bigger injectors and an AFC to tune with, put some 550's on there and get a decent tune and you can make more than 220 safely.
TheShortBus
04-24-2008, 01:06 AM
well ive been told that my 440's are plenty big for what im goin to be runnin.
and im gettin tuned at batlground on friday
TheShortBus
04-25-2008, 05:58 PM
well i just got back from batlground. Dan did an awsome job. im currently running 7 psi peak with 185whp and 205torque
we tried for 200whp but i have a boost leek somewhere, so as soon as it gets to about 4500rmp the boost drops from 11 back down to 7. so once i get that fixed im takin it back in.
Revmaynard
04-25-2008, 06:12 PM
Nice, it's better than a Honda dynochart, the tq is always lower! lol. :(
TheShortBus
04-25-2008, 06:25 PM
yeah thats what ive herd
iNsTuN nOoDoH
04-25-2008, 11:03 PM
n thx. im pretty sure im the first one in GA to do it. and there are only a a few turboed lancers in the south but they are all premade kits that i know of. and trust me i would die to have a lift :cheers:, but it really isnt that bad if you know your car well.
nope, one of my homies had one. I helped him piece it together. He put the same power at 9 psi. Sorry to burst ya bubble, but he couldn't keep up with my turbo d series. He ended up trading it in for an s2k...
TheShortBus
04-25-2008, 11:05 PM
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3198/l24ed77c264f37f120c8754xt0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
TheShortBus
04-25-2008, 11:08 PM
nope, one of my homies had one. I helped him piece it together. He put the same power at 9 psi. Sorry to burst ya bubble, but he couldn't keep up with my turbo d series. He ended up trading it in for an s2k...
was just goin on who i know in ga on my lancer forums :goodjob:.
but not sayin it wouldnt have raped me from a digg, but i kept up with him just fine. but who knows how hard he was actaully pushin it. either way i love this thing now and i feels like a totally differnt car
TheShortBus
05-02-2008, 07:55 PM
fixed the boost leak and vacuum line goin to the fmu that had a small hole in it, and im running 11psi pretty consistently now only dropps off a little at higher rpms.
hoping to take it back to batlground to get retuned in the next month or so :D
SandM
05-02-2008, 08:23 PM
well, good luck running 11 psi daily... i remember when boeturbolancer blew his **** up twice with a 75 shot. it's been a while since i've been looking into the 4g94 turbo scene.
i remember when i wanted to do all this.... now i have a new car.
old lancer
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b98/stygiosracing/lancer.jpg
TheShortBus
05-02-2008, 08:46 PM
well i know quite a few guys on my lancer forums who are doin it just fine. as soon as you get up to 13+psi is when you need to worry. the stock pistons and rods blow at 14..
not to mention turbo and nitrous are a completely different things.. and when it comes to stock lancer motors they are just week as hell. there are guys i know that blew it up more than once just running a 40shot..
SandM
05-02-2008, 08:56 PM
are the guys online running FMU's/reflash or running standalone's?
TheShortBus
05-02-2008, 09:05 PM
most of them did the same thing i did. some use fmu's some dont. but most everyone uses ecuflash
TheShortBus
05-08-2008, 08:12 PM
Well I just got a port and pollished 4G93 intake manifold off of a Mirrage. The g93's runners arent as bent and are shorter for better flow, and the intake penium can be ported to 60mm vs the g94 can only be ported to about 52mm.
So anyway i want to get a ported throttle body as well to go along with it. RRM makes the stock g94's that are ported out 5mm over stock (duno what the stock messure ment is) but they are $300.. and they also charge you an extra 100 as a core charge and then send them your stocker and yadda yaada blaa....
So i need someone who knows alot abot Mitsubishi parts that are compatible with differnt cars. Like if i could possilby get a 1G eclipse throttle body or somthing like that. Just an example cuz ive herd they flow better, but have no clue if they will fit :/
93gcsedan
05-27-2008, 02:08 AM
Nice turbo build looks like you know what you are doing for someone for being so young, I cant really talk I am only 20, I am going to to pretty much do the same thing with my Impreza.
TheShortBus
06-17-2008, 06:39 PM
thx man.
n yeah about a a year ago i didnt know the first thing about turbos or moding cars at all really for that matter.. lol. just have done a **** load of research and ive always been pretty handy with tools and stuff, so im really glad it turned out great.
but a lil update.
installed my ported 4g94 intake mani and megan racing coilovers and now it rides and sounds really good.
but on a random hot day my clutch went out annndd my radiator cracked... so ive got an Evo 9 JVT Racing radiator and ACT stage two clutch on the way as well :).
once i get it running again im goin to try and take it back to dan to get it retuned again and see what im pulling now
Batlground
06-17-2008, 06:46 PM
fixed the boost leak and vacuum line goin to the fmu that had a small hole in it, and im running 11psi pretty consistently now only dropps off a little at higher rpms.
hoping to take it back to batlground to get retuned in the next month or so :D
You need to be retuned ASAP the car was never tuned to run 11lbs. Give me a ring at the shop and Ill work you into the schedule. We may just need to check it and make sure that its running ok so it may not even have to be tuned. Either way give me a ring at the shop and we can schedule a time for you to come in.
Matt
TheShortBus
06-20-2008, 09:40 AM
alright will do!
thx
bigric09
07-14-2008, 03:44 PM
id have to do some research really quickly as far as scaling for injectors that small, but im pretty sure i can flash a regular lancer with the software i use. I think you could pretty much say, im very familiar with the evo platform lol. Before you get too crazy, you may want to rethink the mani
I'm currently in the process of installing my custom turbo set-up for my 2003 Lancer OZ.
-16g out of an evo 8
-evo 8 fmic, piping, bov, ect..
-evo megan racing mani with a 4G94 Flange Welded to it
-440cc wrx injectors
-255 walbro fuel pump
anyway, im hoping to run 10psi (4g94's pretty much blow after 13) i should have it all finished up in the next week or so and im lookin for a place to get my ecu flashed. i live in kennesaw, but anything in the Atlanta area will pretty much work. any advice on a good shop will be much appriciated
ill be sure to post up some pics and numbers when i get everything working
Blitanicle99
08-06-2008, 01:13 PM
Should have gone to Forged... They can Fing tune a car.
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