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Oz10
03-15-2008, 04:59 PM
Are they legal? I've heard of some people getting pulled over for it. I'm just wondering if anybody knows for sure or not. :thinking:

87 Turbo II
03-15-2008, 10:59 PM
I don't see how they can be. My girlfriend's 87 Acura Legend has yellow/sattrouse(yellow green, the most functionally colored light possible, as it makes upe 43% of the suns rays, and the human eye is the most sensitive to it) fog lights STOCK. Also, they're high mounted fog lights inside the headlight cluster, so they look like yellow headlights, and they WORK! Yellow headlights FTW screw the dim(by comparison of light diffusion) blueish HIDs. I don't care if they look better(in the average opinion), they won't work as well.

Andy_013
03-17-2008, 03:18 AM
I have some yellow headlights, I never got pulled over so far. It makes all the white lines look yellow.

mushroom_toy
03-17-2008, 03:37 AM
PLus yellow light cuts through fog/rain/snow/hail, and just nasty weather better.

AnthonyF
03-17-2008, 08:16 AM
i dont think they are illegal, but I do think they look dumb as sh*t. I have Yellow HID fogs, but not headlights.

speedminded
03-17-2008, 08:21 AM
Yes, yellow headlights are illegal. Does everyone with them get pulled over? Nope. That's the chance you take.



I don't see how they can be. My girlfriend's 87 Acura Legend has yellow/sattrouse(yellow green, the most functionally colored light possible, as it makes upe 43% of the suns rays, and the human eye is the most sensitive to it) fog lights STOCK.I just heard that fog lights ARE NOT the same as headlights, who knew?!

TicketRedBB6
03-17-2008, 08:28 AM
I've seen several yellow foglights but never headlights. Im sure they're illegal and I don't think they'd look too good. It'd be too much yellow IMO.

AnthonyF
03-17-2008, 08:31 AM
I just heard that fog lights ARE NOT the same as headlights, who knew?! NO CHIT? hmmmm i thought they were always the same... :doh:

DieselNuts
03-17-2008, 08:57 AM
yellow fogs are fine and dandy, but yellow headlights are refukingtarted

speedminded
03-17-2008, 08:59 AM
§ 40-8-22. Headlights


(a) Every motor vehicle other than a motorcycle or motor driven cycle shall be equipped with at least two but not more than four headlights, with at least one on each side of the front of the motor vehicle, which headlights shall comply with the requirements and limitations set forth in this article.

(b) Every motorcycle and every motor driven cycle shall be equipped with at least one and not more than two headlights, which shall comply with the requirements and limitations of this article.

(c) Every headlight upon every motor vehicle, including every motorcycle and motor driven cycle, shall be located at a height measured from the center of the headlight of not more than 54 inches nor less than 24 inches, to be measured as set forth in subsection (b) of Code Section 40-8-21.

(d) The headlights required by this Code section shall be maintained in proper working condition and shall not be covered by any type of material, provided that the covering restriction shall not apply to any vehicle on which the original factory headlights were covered.

(e) It shall be unlawful to operate a motor vehicle unless such motor vehicle is equipped with aiming pads on each headlight.

HISTORY: Ga. L. 1953, Nov.-Dec. Sess., p. 556, § 105; Ga. L. 1957, p. 616, § 1; Code 1933, § 68E-203, enacted by Ga. L. 1982, p. 165, § 4; Code 1981, § 40-8-22, enacted by Ga. L. 1982, p. 165, § 10; Ga. L. 1992, p. 2785, § 26. The way around this is using a colored bulb and not the lamin-x or similiar vinyl covering...BUT yellow is too far from the spectrum of approved colors by the DOT. 3000k HID's are not DOT legal for headlights on public roadways.

*Cliff Notes*
Yellow film is both state and federally illegal.
Yellow headlight bulbs can be considered state "legal" but they are still federally illegal (DOT).

TicketRedBB6
03-17-2008, 08:59 AM
Are they legal? I've heard of some people getting pulled over for it. I'm just wondering if anybody knows for sure or not. :thinking:
BTW, do you mean yellow HIDs in headlight housing or yello lamin-x type of material that covers the headlight itself and makes the light yellow? I have seen some yellow hid's that looked alright, but i've never seen yellow colored headlights. Either way I think both are illegal.

AnthonyF
03-17-2008, 09:04 AM
^Nitro and Blackboi are rocking Yellow HID head lights. I dont like them.

ThAixGuYx2k7
03-17-2008, 09:32 AM
I had yellow bulbs earlier, but went back to 6000K hid's. Honestly, visibility really is better with them, but it attracts cop attention and it is illegal. - Doraville cop on Peachtree Industrial (the Mustang one) gave me crap about it.

blackboi50
03-17-2008, 09:36 AM
^Nitro and Blackboi are rocking Yellow HID head lights. I dont like them.

:cry:.......ant dont like my headlights :(.........

AHH WELL.......yea only the small towns (like auburn and braselton) bother me about it but all they say is "you cant have yellow headlights".......ive had gwinnett county cops come outta QT and say wow those headlights are rilly yellow......can u see better with that???......so i dunno......1

mushroom_toy
03-17-2008, 04:38 PM
Quote from the GLEH (Georgia) 2008 edition
40-8-34 Color of Lighting Equipment
The color of all lighting equipment covered in this title shall be in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) Standard J578 April 1965 as thereafter revised or amended .

Other Ga laws pertaining: 40-8-20,21,22,29,30,31 none of which prohibits colors on headlights or any other color as long as it is adjustable beam, meets SAE standards and can be dimmed if dual filiment. Lots of other interesting stuff in the above mentioned codes. Too much to list, they are available online search the 40-8-%% ga law code.

speedminded
03-17-2008, 04:42 PM
Quote from the GLEH (Georgia) 2008 edition
40-8-34 Color of Lighting Equipment
The color of all lighting equipment covered in this title shall be in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) Standard J578 April 1965 as thereafter revised or amended .

Other Ga laws pertaining: 40-8-20,21,22,29,30,31 none of which prohibits colors on headlights or any other color as long as it is adjustable beam, meets SAE standards and can be dimmed if dual filiment. Lots of other interesting stuff in the above mentioned codes. Too much to list, they are available online search the 40-8-%% ga law code.I researched the SAE Standard J578 years ago but could barely make sense of it, the color of headlights has to be between two certain values on the color/K° spectrum scale.

mushroom_toy
03-17-2008, 04:57 PM
Pretty much just carry a georgia code book with ya and dont have as many problems. :)
They could be illegal, but even so the chances of being hassled is greater if you car is a. loud b.bright colored c.looking for attention.

mushroom_toy
03-17-2008, 04:59 PM
[0007] SAE Standard J1383 also specifies certain requirements for vehicular lamps functioning as headlamps, including minimum and/or maximum luminous intensity requirements. According to the aforementioned standards, a minimum and/or maximum luminous intensity must exist at various points in the illumination zone to be in compliance. These specific photometric requirements for vehicular low beam and high beam headlamps, as set forth in SAE Standard J1383, are included hereinbelow. TABLE-US-00001 TABLE 1 PHOTOMETRIC SPECIFICATION - LOW BEAM Low Beam Minimum (cd) Maximum (cd) 10U to 90U, 45.degree. R to 45.degree. L 125 8L to 8 R, H to 4U 64 4L to 4R, H to 2U 125 1U to 11/2 L to L 700 1/2U to 11/2L to L 1000 1/2D to 11/2L to L 3000 11/2U to 1R to R 1400 1/2U to 1R, 2R, 3R 2700 1/2D to 11/2R 8000 20000 1D to 6L 750 11/2D to 2R 15000 11/2D to 9L and 9R 750 2D to 15L and 15R 700 4D to 4R 8000

[0008] TABLE-US-00002 TABLE 2 PHOTOMETRIC SPECIFICATION - HIGH BEAM High Beam Minimum (cd) Maximum (cd) 2U to V 1500 1U to 3R and 3L 5000 H to V 20000 75000 H to 3R and 3L 10000 H to 6R and 6L 3250 H to 9R and 9L 2000 H to 12R and 12L 500 11/2D to V 5000 11/2D to 9R and 9L 1500 21/2D to V 2000 21/2D to 12R and 12L 750 4D to V 12500 Maximum Beam Candela.sup.(1) 30000 .sup.(1)The highest candela reading found in the beam pattern

[0009] SAE J578, entitled "Color Specification", sets forth the definition for white light as applied to headlamps. The definition applies to the overall effective color of light emitted by a headlamp in any given direction and not to the color of the light from a small area of the lens. In SAE J578, the fundamental requirements for color are expressed as chromaticity coordinates according to the CIE (1931) standard calorimetric system.

[0010] Pursuant to SAE J578, the following requirements for white light shall apply when measured by the tristimulus or spectrophotometric methods, as are well known in the art. TABLE-US-00003 TABLE 4 WHITE LIGHT (ACHROMATIC) The color of light emitted from the headlamp shall fall within the following boundaries: x = 0.31 (blue boundary) x = 0.50 (yellow boundary) y = 0.15 + 0.64x (green boundary) y = 0.05 + 0.75x (purple boundary) y = 0.44 (green boundary) y = 0.38 (red boundary)

speedminded
03-17-2008, 05:00 PM
Pretty much just carry a georgia code book with ya and dont have as many problems. :)
They could be illegal, but even so the chances of being hassled is greater if you car is a. loud b.bright colored c.looking for attention.No need to, almost every officer has one on hand :tongue:

speedminded
03-17-2008, 05:01 PM
[0007] SAE Standard J1383 also specifies certain requirements for vehicular lamps functioning as headlamps, including minimum and/or maximum luminous intensity requirements. According to the aforementioned standards, a minimum and/or maximum luminous intensity must exist at various points in the illumination zone to be in compliance. These specific photometric requirements for vehicular low beam and high beam headlamps, as set forth in SAE Standard J1383, are included hereinbelow. TABLE-US-00001 TABLE 1 PHOTOMETRIC SPECIFICATION - LOW BEAM Low Beam Minimum (cd) Maximum (cd) 10U to 90U, 45.degree. R to 45.degree. L 125 8L to 8 R, H to 4U 64 4L to 4R, H to 2U 125 1U to 11/2 L to L 700 1/2U to 11/2L to L 1000 1/2D to 11/2L to L 3000 11/2U to 1R to R 1400 1/2U to 1R, 2R, 3R 2700 1/2D to 11/2R 8000 20000 1D to 6L 750 11/2D to 2R 15000 11/2D to 9L and 9R 750 2D to 15L and 15R 700 4D to 4R 8000

[0008] TABLE-US-00002 TABLE 2 PHOTOMETRIC SPECIFICATION - HIGH BEAM High Beam Minimum (cd) Maximum (cd) 2U to V 1500 1U to 3R and 3L 5000 H to V 20000 75000 H to 3R and 3L 10000 H to 6R and 6L 3250 H to 9R and 9L 2000 H to 12R and 12L 500 11/2D to V 5000 11/2D to 9R and 9L 1500 21/2D to V 2000 21/2D to 12R and 12L 750 4D to V 12500 Maximum Beam Candela.sup.(1) 30000 .sup.(1)The highest candela reading found in the beam pattern

[0009] SAE J578, entitled "Color Specification", sets forth the definition for white light as applied to headlamps. The definition applies to the overall effective color of light emitted by a headlamp in any given direction and not to the color of the light from a small area of the lens. In SAE J578, the fundamental requirements for color are expressed as chromaticity coordinates according to the CIE (1931) standard calorimetric system.

[0010] Pursuant to SAE J578, the following requirements for white light shall apply when measured by the tristimulus or spectrophotometric methods, as are well known in the art. TABLE-US-00003 TABLE 4 WHITE LIGHT (ACHROMATIC) The color of light emitted from the headlamp shall fall within the following boundaries: x = 0.31 (blue boundary) x = 0.50 (yellow boundary) y = 0.15 + 0.64x (green boundary) y = 0.05 + 0.75x (purple boundary) y = 0.44 (green boundary) y = 0.38 (red boundary)See, it makes perfect sense doesn't!! :D

1439/2000
03-17-2008, 05:02 PM
They are illegal but it depends on the cop. 3 years ago I got a ticket in my Infiniti for the raybrig bulbs. It was 90 bucks too.

mushroom_toy
03-17-2008, 05:08 PM
No need to, almost every officer has one on hand :tongue:

And more than likely, expecially in the case of Winder/Auburn the officer has no idea of what is in the book at all. :)

mushroom_toy
03-17-2008, 05:09 PM
See, it makes perfect sense doesn't!! :D

Basically you can have a certain degree of different light colors in your light, but I dontk now the conversion factors on what it is. :thinking:

mushroom_toy
03-17-2008, 05:13 PM
And these are some fines from Macon:

DEFECTIVE EQUIPMENT - WINDSHIELD
$60.00

$84.00
DEFECTIVE EQUIPMENT - SLICK TIRES
$60.00

$84.00
DEFECTIVE EQUIPMENT - LOUD MUFFLER
$60.00

$84.00
IMPROPER HEADLIGHT COLOR
$60.00

$84.00
IMPROPER HEADLIGHT COVERS
$60.00

$84.00
DRIVING WITH AN ALTERED VEHICLE SUSPENSION
$60.00

$84.00
WINDOW TINT VIOLATION
$100.00

$140.00
LOUD MUSIC VIOLATION:
1ST
$100.00

$140.00
2ND
$200.00

$280.00
3RD
$300.00

$420.00

TheDarkRacer
03-17-2008, 05:18 PM
^^ that sucks... but if you are a smooth talker u should be able to talk your way outta it lol

speedminded
03-17-2008, 05:40 PM
And these are some fines from Macon:

DEFECTIVE EQUIPMENT - WINDSHIELD
$60.00

$84.00
DEFECTIVE EQUIPMENT - SLICK TIRES
$60.00

$84.00
DEFECTIVE EQUIPMENT - LOUD MUFFLER
$60.00

$84.00
IMPROPER HEADLIGHT COLOR
$60.00

$84.00
IMPROPER HEADLIGHT COVERS
$60.00

$84.00
DRIVING WITH AN ALTERED VEHICLE SUSPENSION
$60.00

$84.00
WINDOW TINT VIOLATION
$100.00

$140.00
LOUD MUSIC VIOLATION:
1ST
$100.00

$140.00
2ND
$200.00

$280.00
3RD
$300.00

$420.00Were some of those city ordinances?

AnthonyF
03-17-2008, 07:03 PM
:cry:.......ant dont like my headlights :(.........

AHH WELL.......yea only the small towns (like auburn and braselton) bother me about it but all they say is "you cant have yellow headlights".......ive had gwinnett county cops come outta QT and say wow those headlights are rilly yellow......can u see better with that???......so i dunno......1i like you tho. :) :gay:

they just dont...i dunno...look right.

MC Hammer
03-17-2008, 08:14 PM
no, they arent illegal.
only blue or red are illegal.
but yellow headlights- not so cool. maybe fog lights?
thats jus me though.

MC Hammer
03-17-2008, 08:15 PM
And these are some fines from Macon:

DEFECTIVE EQUIPMENT - WINDSHIELD
$60.00

$84.00
DEFECTIVE EQUIPMENT - SLICK TIRES
$60.00

$84.00
DEFECTIVE EQUIPMENT - LOUD MUFFLER
$60.00

$84.00
IMPROPER HEADLIGHT COLOR
$60.00

$84.00
IMPROPER HEADLIGHT COVERS
$60.00

$84.00
DRIVING WITH AN ALTERED VEHICLE SUSPENSION
$60.00

$84.00
WINDOW TINT VIOLATION
$100.00

$140.00
LOUD MUSIC VIOLATION:
1ST
$100.00

$140.00
2ND
$200.00

$280.00
3RD
$300.00

$420.00


Hey, where did you find this at? I'd like to see what the fines are in Barrow. :goodjob:

speedminded
03-17-2008, 08:28 PM
no, they arent illegal.
only blue or red are illegal.
but yellow headlights- not so cool. maybe fog lights?
thats jus me though.Only blue or red headlights are illegal? lololol :lmfao:


Hey, where did you find this at? I'd like to see what the fines are in Barrow. :goodjob:What the hell does Barrow Co. have to do with Macon? :slap:

Nitro
03-17-2008, 08:36 PM
^Nitro and Blackboi are rocking Yellow HID head lights. I dont like them.


not for u to like homie!!! :rolleyes: an trust me i didn't get em for cool points!!!

1439/2000
03-17-2008, 08:37 PM
no, they arent illegal.
only blue or red are illegal.
but yellow headlights- not so cool. maybe fog lights?
thats jus me though.


You're wrong. I never got hassled in the 02 however because cops loved that car.

calboi
03-17-2008, 08:43 PM
i got yellow hids and have not been pulled over for it yet.....

87 Turbo II
03-17-2008, 11:11 PM
To all of those who are saying it's retarded, by what means. It's been proven that yellow/green is the wavelength of light that the human eye is the most sensitive to. Whose the REAL retard? The people buying 8000K headlights to look futuristic and cool or the people buying 3000k to have the ultimate function? I think the functional and race used lights actually look GOOD especially on cars from the 80s or early 90s that have that older look to them. I know it is my opinion, and I know GT wings that are 2 or 3 feet tall are technically sometimes functional too bu tit doesn't mean we should run them on the streets, but headlights, I don't think they look to ricey unless you're getting into green, purple, blue(like REALLY blue) , red, etc.

Also, to the smartass who said that headlights are different than fog lights, I realize that, I am not dumb. I said that the fogs are built into her headlight cluster(stock), and when on, look like yellow headlights.

BB1_Luda
03-18-2008, 12:04 AM
I think it looks good on certain cars that can pull the look off. I never heard of anyone being pulled over for it though.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y209/Atomkane/Lude/AK304756.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y209/Atomkane/Lude/AK304759-1.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y209/Atomkane/Lude/Picture094.jpg

Oz10
03-18-2008, 01:38 AM
Thanks everybody! A friend of mine was talking about it and none of us knew if it was legal or not so I decided to see if anyone on IA knew. Reps to those who helped.

speedminded
03-18-2008, 07:30 AM
To all of those who are saying it's retarded, by what means. It's been proven that yellow/green is the wavelength of light that the human eye is the most sensitive to. Whose the REAL retard? The people buying 8000K headlights to look futuristic and cool or the people buying 3000k to have the ultimate function? I think the functional and race used lights actually look GOOD especially on cars from the 80s or early 90s that have that older look to them. I know it is my opinion, and I know GT wings that are 2 or 3 feet tall are technically sometimes functional too bu tit doesn't mean we should run them on the streets, but headlights, I don't think they look to ricey unless you're getting into green, purple, blue(like REALLY blue) , red, etc.

Also, to the smartass who said that headlights are different than fog lights, I realize that, I am not dumb. I said that the fogs are built into her headlight cluster(stock), and when on, look like yellow headlights.You do know that yellow lights on race cars is not for visibility right? It's for class identification, it signals drivers in a slower class that a faster car is coming up behind them.

http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2006/7/26/2060726.003/2060726.003.1M.jpg

blackboi50
03-18-2008, 08:52 AM
i like you tho. :) :gay:

they just dont...i dunno...look right.

u better like me or ill put metal in yur motor again!!!!:ninja:.........:lmfao:....1

87 Turbo II
03-18-2008, 11:06 PM
You do know that yellow lights on race cars is not for visibility right? It's for class identification, it signals drivers in a slower class that a faster car is coming up behind them.

http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2006/7/26/2060726.003/2060726.003.1M.jpg
No, I did not realize that, but it still has been proven that the human eye is most sensitive to it. Which is why they started painting firetrucks to look like this:

http://bp2.blogger.com/_HCmekpJAZMA/R1lMm37MGCI/AAAAAAAAAL8/apJgHsNx6us/s400/Truck%252074%2520Hahn-web.jpg

TheDarkRacer
03-19-2008, 12:46 AM
^^lol at old school fire truck painted yellow.

xliv2racex
03-19-2008, 12:51 AM
Lexus IS300's came factory with yellow fogs and 5.8k HID's good combo in my mind

wunquikser
03-19-2008, 01:03 AM
ILLEGAL..i've had the Luminic Jdm yellow bulb and they are pure yellow..the day i put them on and later that nite i got pulled over..police let me go with a warning, they said next time they see me and i still had them on they would arrest me and give me a ticket for illegal lights, impersonation of a police officer, and obstruction of justice..THats BULL****!! and almost everyday that week i got pulled over w/da lights still on but different officers, all warnings too..haha but yea thats my story.. now i got 8k hid and they leave me alone..just my .2 cents!!\

but yellow fogs will be aiite..

speedminded
03-19-2008, 10:01 AM
No, I did not realize that, but it still has been proven that the human eye is most sensitive to it. Which is why they started painting firetrucks to look like this:

http://bp2.blogger.com/_HCmekpJAZMA/R1lMm37MGCI/AAAAAAAAAL8/apJgHsNx6us/s400/Truck%252074%2520Hahn-web.jpgMost "sensitive" and eye catching because there are very few natural things that are yellow, other than the sun obviously. Red is an all too common color but in a fire department sense, red is for fire...although all the fire trucks at larger airports are bright neon green.


You mix yellow lights and white or different shades of white: halogen and HID, etc. and it completely ruins your depth perception. Race teams I've crewed for have spent alot of time and money attempting to create the best light for endurance races.




ILLEGAL..i've had the Luminic Jdm yellow bulb and they are pure yellow..the day i put them on and later that nite i got pulled over..police let me go with a warning, they said next time they see me and i still had them on they would arrest me and give me a ticket for illegal lights, impersonation of a police officer, and obstruction of justice..THats BULL****!! and almost everyday that week i got pulled over w/da lights still on but different officers, all warnings too..haha but yea thats my story.. now i got 8k hid and they leave me alone..just my .2 cents!!\

but yellow fogs will be aiite..lolol, that's when you ask to see the specific code and to speak to his/her captain or supervisor. Blue anywhere and red on the front of a car are the only two specific colors you can't have as a civilian.