Whats going to be the next hot Tuner Car??

[TopSpeedInc]

Topspeed is looking into buying a new shop project car. We would like to get everyones opionion first on what you think will be then next hot market.

We are looking for a mass produced turbo car, that someone could easily mod. The price must be under 40k.


Thanks,

Doug

[MistaCee]

Those Pontiac Solstice is looking like its gonna be a hot tuner car

[JITB]

Volvo C30
MS3
MS6
Solstice gxp
Sky turbo
New Mini turbo

[thinkfast®]

I PREDICT AN UPRISING IN THE REAR WHEEL DRIVE SMALL BLOCK G BODY CHEVY OWNERS

[JITB]

I PREDICT AN UPRISING IN THE REAR WHEEL DRIVE SMALL BLOCK G BODY CHEVY OWNERS

09 impala? return of the G??

[Brett]

Id say the Solstice GXP or the Saturn Sky Redline, Both boosted and potential and sexy, To me the sky as far as looks blows the Solstice away (Kinda like a G35 blows in style wise a 350z)

[EJ25RUN]

GTR
EVO X
STI '08
E92 M3
ZO6/ZR1 Corvette (oh TopSpeed Vette i like how that sounds)

Thinking of more....

[WhiteAccord]

/\/\ Under 40k

[EJ25RUN]

/\/\ Under 40k

oh wow reading is important.... :doh:

in that case new EVO X and or New STI....

now is the time to figure these cars out and prove your work for those that will buy them.

[Oz10]

http://www.carbodydesign.com/production-cars/2005-08-26-toyota-yaris-rav4/New%20Toyota%20Yaris%201.jpg
TEH NEWW HOTNESS!!!!!:goodjob: :crazy:

[Oz10]

Id say the Solstice GXP or the Saturn Sky Redline, Both boosted and potential and sexy, To me the sky as far as looks blows the Solstice away (Kinda like a G35 blows in style wise a 350z)
But on a serious note. I agree with brett :goodjob:

[EJ25RUN]

[TEH NEWW HOTNESS!!!!!:goodjob: :crazy:

oh, i got it

Prius + 2JZ-GTE swap..... that'll show those environmental sh!tstains.

[Oz10]

oh, i got it

Prius + 2JZ-GTE swap..... that'll show those environmental sh!tstains.
That would be hilarious. That would be a great car to take to the strip. People would make fun of you then you could blow their doors off. :doh: :D

[NAIZBST]

:werd:

[Wurm]

I think the fit will be the new hatch

[Bruce Leroy]

I think that the new hot tuner car will be the next gen hyundai tibby.. Should fit you bill nicely if the come out with the turbo 4.

[The Ninja]

'08 A5.....
'08 9-3 turbo

[RandomGuy]

ford tempo

[Revmaynard]

I think the MS3-6 would be an awesome choice, personally.

[Oz10]

I think the MS3-6 would be an awesome choice, personally.
good call!:goodjob:

[MistaCee]

I think the fit will be the new hatch

x2

[EJ25RUN]

ford tempo

He said next hot tuner car.... not retired street legend.

[AnclyT]

i'd say the new evo x.. only because i don't dig the new sti

[Revmaynard]

I say MS3-6......because I don't see fully built ones. I'd love to see a built engine with a big ass turbo on it. AWD Speed6!

[1SICKLEX]

I have a feeling a luxury car will be. Car prices are dropping and with a weak economy, that means prices will continue to drop.

Add the fact luxury brands sell more than ever and tons are leased and the used car luxury market will be flooded.

Buyers can then get a Lexus or BMW etc at a very low price with a solid aftermarket.

[BKgen®]

GENESIS COUPE FTMFW.

(i'll let you put a turbo kit on mine when i get it :D)

[Revmaynard]

Too bad that's not out for another year. lol

Isn't also base boosted?

[ironchef]

'08 A5.....
'08 9-3 turboThe A5 is definitely dope, but with an msrp of right around $39k it will be highly out of reach for a majority of the "tuner" market.

I think maybe the new Cobalt SS turbo with 260 hp might be good.
Next gen mazdaspeed 3.
RX-7/9 if they ever come out.
Next gen 240 if that ever comes out.
Mazdaspeed Miata coupe if that ever happens.
Genesis coupe.
Maybe a bigger interest in Euro Turbos, GTI/Jetta/used A4 and such.
Used bmw 135i/335i's.

[BKgen®]

Too bad that's not out for another year. lol

Isn't also base boosted?

either 4 cyl turbo, or 350bhp N/A 3.8L V6.

take your pick. I'll stick with the V6 :D

[EJ25RUN]

new camaro? challanger?

[RandomGuy]

as ghey as it sounds, i'm being practical

Before now, the 350z/ g35 and the rx8... (cars which i don't really care too much for) weren't as deep into the "tuner" crowd as they might be soon as the prices depreciate. I can see those booming at the launch of the GTR, and the birth of a "poor man's GTR"... even though the vq35 sucks, i'm sure you guys can possibly do something about it?

as far as the rx8, the car sucks major balls, i retract my statement lol there wont be a market for them bc they suck lawl... no one will buy one.

[collins]

http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/article/737/737595/acura-rdx-20061005060803094.jpg

:goodjob: :lmfao:

[NAIZBST]

http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/article/737/737595/acura-rdx-20061005060803094.jpg

:goodjob: :lmfao:

x2

[Batlground]

ehhh, all the cars out now suck

New STI- people are already modding them like crazy
New EVO 10- Heard the motors arent as strong as they used to be, an bushur has a few supposedly
G35-blah
370z-blah
GTR-$$$$$
Anything Honda-Blah
Toyota- Blah

theres nothing our right now that excites me, or even remotely interests me.

The only cars that interest me are 70-100K Lol

[Dracc]

G37... or a prius

[Dracc]

GENESIS COUPE FTMFW.

(i'll let you put a turbo kit on mine when i get it :D)


the hyndaui right... i want the sedan.... i'm a VIP that some biitch out

[Nismo]

New colbalt ss, or the scion tc. Its the new age civic for a reason, when the people currently driving civics and **** start seeing how cheap these are and how much power they have stock there going to jump on them. Plus the new xB2 has the same engine.

[Batlground]

the thing i dont like about the SCIONs is the complete lack of engine managment that works.

Unless you buy a hydra. but yeah, those cars COULD be cool if people were to spend money on them.

The Cobalts are cool, just hate their looks

[BKgen®]

BTW, I've read that Hyundai is planning to build a U.S. drift team around the genesis coupe....

:ninja:

[Dracc]

man get a 350z... get the boar out kit.... boar out the 3.5 to a 4.2 swap badges and put datsun 420z... 150shot.. and instant rare sex

[GGPIS3]

not that im biased or anything.... :ninja: but the IS300 has dropped significantly in price. ;)

[redrumracer]

deff the sky or solstice although the miata is coming up, but not really for straight line racing imo

[Bruce Leroy]

GENESIS COUPE FTMFW.

(i'll let you put a turbo kit on mine when i get it :D)


I'm With This Guy!

[1000cckiller]

evo x isn't below 40k, it is 40k in Ga

[BKgen®]

man get a 350z... get the boar out kit.... boar out the 3.5 to a 4.2 swap badges and put datsun 420z... 150shot.. and instant rare sex

lol @ boar. :lmao:

[Ran]

Just get a Mustang GT like everyone else. You can get it for under $30K and with a $5K turbo kit you're already at 500HP.

[man]

IS 350
or
BMW 335

[Ran]

IS 350I would agree here, but I'm pretty sure the 350 only comes in auto-tragic.

[GirlieZ]

man get a 350z... get the boar out kit.... boar out the 3.5 to a 4.2 swap badges and put datsun 420z... 150shot.. and instant rare sex
ghey, ls2 swap ftw!

and i think tuning a Z requires actually using a wideband ;)

[man]

I would agree here, but I'm pretty sure the 350 only comes in auto-tragic.

Swap trannies, or start with the 250 6-speed

[collins]

Just get a Mustang GT like everyone else. You can get it for under $30K and with a $5K turbo kit you're already at 500HP.

OR u could go buy a used 05-06 gto for $23-25k, put about $4000 into a heads/cam and supporting bolt on's, and make 500rwhp WITHOUT boost :taun:

[GirlieZ]

OR u could go buy a used 05-06 gto for $23-25k, put about $4000 into a heads/cam and supporting bolt on's, and make 500rwhp WITHOUT boost :taun:
collins dont make them cry about their itty bitty v8

[collins]

collins dont make them cry about their itty bitty v8

:bump:

[Ran]

OR u could go buy a used 05-06 gto for $23-25k, put about $4000 into a heads/cam and supporting bolt on's, and make 500rwhp WITHOUT boost :taun:Yeah, but then you're stuck driving a Pontiac.

Besides, they're looking for NEW tuner market. Not the "nobody liked this car so we discontinued it and you can get them dirt cheap" tuner market. :taun:

[collins]

shiiiit. i'm proud to drive my hooptie... afterall, its not pontiac's design... its holden's ;) aint nothin wrong with it.

i'd still rather drive a pontiac than a ford! have you SEEN how hard they make fords to work on? pop ur hood!

[Ran]

i'd still rather drive a pontiac than a ford! have you SEEN how hard they make fords to work on? pop ur hood!It's actually not that bad. George said his intake took about 15mins to install, then a few minutes to tune. Everything else I would possibly do looks easily accessible too. Headers, suspension, tower bars, exhaust ect... :dunno:


This year, Ford bettered its 1998 showing, earning top honors in five out of J.D. Power’s 19 segments for vehicles like the Mustang. :D

[OneSlow5pt0]

RX-8,MS6,Sky,new turbo cobalt,lancer rallisport(is it out yet),Z3 or Z4,MR2-S

[Nemesis]

i'd still rather drive a pontiac than a ford!


lol :gay:

[stillaneon]

I havent seen it yet, and I hate to seem biased, but the new Caliber SRT-4 is AWD with 300 HP. Doesnt look great but is supposed to be around 24-28K and has EVO-like specs. I would think anyone looking for affordability would jump on this, IMO

[collins]

It's actually not that bad. George said his intake took about 15mins to install, then a few minutes to tune. Everything else I would possibly do looks easily accessible too. Headers, suspension, tower bars, exhaust ect... :dunno: a buddy of mine put a procharger on his not too long ago.... i wasnt personally there for teh install, but all he did was b1tch and complain about how hard it was to get all the piping right, mounted, make sure everything had enough clearance, etc... when i saw the car, i saw exactly what he was talking about.


lol and ps...
imo, jd power only counts if you continue to drive a car in its stock form, completly un modified (except maybe wheels, or other MINOR bolt on's like an intake and a catback...)

[Nemesis]

a buddy of mine put a procharger on his not too long ago.... i wasnt personally there for teh install, but all he did was b1tch and complain about how hard it was to get all the piping right, mounted, make sure everything had enough clearance, etc... when i saw the car, i saw exactly what he was talking about.



1. User errors.

2. Read instructions.

3. User error.

4. Probably shouldnt be drinking when installing an SC.

5. I have talked to people that have installed other SC's (non procharger) that have done it in there driveway with ease.

6. User error.

7. Your buddy is probably retarded. lol

8. Shut it COLLINS


i wasnt personally there for teh install


THEN STFU YOU ARMCHAIR RACER :lmfao:

[Batlground]

OR u could go buy a used 05-06 gto for $23-25k, put about $4000 into a heads/cam and supporting bolt on's, and make 500rwhp WITHOUT boost :taun:
500whp? i though only LS7s could do that on motor.

Ive never seen any LS1/LS2/LS3/LS6 make that kind power on just $4000 heads an cams.

[ironchef]

shiiiit. i'm proud to drive my hooptie... afterall, its not pontiac's design... its holden's ;) aint nothin wrong with it.

i'd still rather drive a pontiac than a ford! have you SEEN how hard they make fords to work on? pop ur hood!So what if its holdens design, both are owned by GM either way.

[4dmin]

honestly everyone is going bigger, faster, etc... i would think american muscle is coming back into the scene.... the new mustang is hot, new camaro "bubble bee" is off the chain, soltice, sky, etc... i think best car to make an impact for a shop would be to build a new camaro once they release :goodjob:

http://www.technochitlins.com/archives/230885378xzLwLf_ph.jpg

[Nemesis]

The new camaro looks awesome with performance to boot, but it just really sucks Ive heard the new Camaro fully loaded is going to be in the upper 30k range. That to me is ridiculous for something with the name Camaro.

[Ran]

i think best car to make an impact for a shop would be to build a new camaro once they release :goodjob:Still not a fan of the new Camaro. I say they go Challenger. :D

[Ran]

Ive heard the new Camaro fully loaded is going to be in the upper 30k range. That to me is ridiculous for something with the name Camaro.Dude, the sticker for my GT was like $38K. :screwy:

[IndianStig]

Audi S4.

[EJ25RUN]

honestly everyone is going bigger, faster, etc... i would think american muscle is coming back into the scene.... the new mustang is hot, new camaro "bubble bee" is off the chain, soltice, sky, etc... i think best car to make an impact for a shop would be to build a new camaro once they release :goodjob:

http://www.technochitlins.com/archives/230885378xzLwLf_ph.jpg

I wish it was that /\, but instead it's this \/

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/03/w_camaro_cr_march08_priddy3.jpg

[iloveboost]

I think you guys should go with a '92 Honda Civic. It's the way of the future.


500whp? i though only LS7s could do that on motor.

Ive never seen any LS1/LS2/LS3/LS6 make that kind power on just $4000 heads an cams.
LS3s can do it fairly easy. LS2s and LS6s can do it with full bolt-ons (electric water pump, right cam, intake manifold, ported TB, the right headers/exhaust system). LS7s only need a tune, intake and good exhaust system. 500bhp is a breeze, much harder to pull 500rwhp with just heads/cam. Definitely need an intake manifold, port work, UD pulley.

I make well over 500rwhp (and torque) on motor. It's loads of fun. :D I can't wait for my nitrous tune. :D

[Seymour222]

What about the 2009 Hyundai Tiburon? RWD+Boost?

[TopSpeedInc]

Only problem I can see with the GXP/Redline's is the lack of a good tuning solution. Yes HPtuner is able to tune them. But the amount of tables that are unlocked are very few. Couple that with the fact if the cars ecu is very senstive and almost anything out of the ordinary throws it into limp mode. Causing the user to reset his ecu all the time.

Right now I am seriously leaning torward the new BMW 135i. Its turbo'd, can be tuned fairly easily comes with 6piston brembos' and is under 40k.

The new 135 is going to end up taking alot of the STI and Evo market I feel. Now that both the STI and EVO are priced about the same if not more than the BMW

[bandydesign]

No need to conform, play with this; its under 40k

http://www.audiusa.com/etc/medialib/cms4imp/audi2/aoa/product/ttmy08/crops.Par.0018.Image.jpg

[collins]

500whp? i though only LS7s could do that on motor.

Ive never seen any LS1/LS2/LS3/LS6 make that kind power on just $4000 heads an cams.

look around :) you might be suprised at what you find.

besides, my post was just poking fun at the mudstain guys! geez, stop taking everything so damn seriously!





ps, i can still do it :taun:

[95alty]

The new M3

[BKgen®]

What about the 2009 Hyundai Tiburon? RWD+Boost?

refer to page 2. it'll be the Genesis coupe.

[collins]

the genesis is also going to be a little heavier than the tibbys were. so they'll need the extra power

[BKgen®]

na man. it's gonna be all carbon fiber/magnesium.



:lmfao:

[collins]

that would be pretty fking pimp!!!! but then again, its a hyundai..... so taht'll never happen :lmfao:

[1SICKLEX]

http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/article/737/737595/acura-rdx-20061005060803094.jpg

:goodjob: :lmfao:
The chief engineer for the RDX was a woman fwiw.

[LS2ner]

Bmw i135 TT

[Boosted S60R]

I say the C30 T5 or the new evo.

[DirtyMechanic]

I say the C30 T5 or the new evo. or maybe they should use your car and maybe get that mythical b!tch running...:lmfao:

[mad3nch1na]

Solstice GT Targa=sex

[Ran]

Solstice GT Targa=sex
Sky > Solstice

Same car, just looks 1000% better.

[collins]

sh.t... they're both over 30g's... but then again so was the s2k (new)

[Ran]

sh.t... they're both over 30g's... but then again so was the s2k (new)I've seen them go for well under $30K. $27-28K seems to be the norm depending on your options.

[Mr_Mischif]

Sky > Solstice

Same car, just looks 1000% better.

Get the forg outta here, the solstice might have a crappier interior, but it looks like gaseous sex.

[Ran]

Get the forg outta here, the solstice might have a crappier interior, but it looks like gaseous sex.I'm inclined to disagree. The Solstice is, IMO, the worst looking of the three cars (Opel GT, Sky, Solstice) inside and out. It's just retardedly bubbly. The Sky has sleek, sharp lines and looks like a proper new-age roadster. :)

[collins]

I've seen them go for well under $30K. $27-28K seems to be the norm depending on your options. probably, yeah... i was talking about sticker... i agree that the sky looks better than the solstice. lines are WAY better!

[IndianStig]

NEW STI or a 335i/135i/535i.

I say get a sick 535i wagon and go from there. How many shops have 1000hp wagons as their shop car? DOOOOO ITTTTTTTT

[Ran]

NEW STII thought the new STi was going for over $40K?

[IndianStig]

after options and upmarks prolly. but 40k is the min for a HOT car now

[Ran]

after options and upmarks prolly. but 40k is the min for a HOT car nowWhich is outrageous. Also, I would hardly consider the STi, or EVO for that matter, "hot". Especially at that price.

[collins]

damn, amy, just bustin out ALL the good points today, huh?

[Mr_Mischif]

I'm inclined to disagree. The Solstice is, IMO, the worst looking of the three cars (Opel GT, Sky, Solstice) inside and out. It's just retardedly bubbly. The Sky has sleek, sharp lines and looks like a proper new-age roadster. :)
While the Sky does have sharp lines, they give the car an angular feeling and a boy-racer look. I mean, look at it: http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/brandnewday/archives/sky.jpg

It looks like it was made with a ruler compared to the Solstice.

[OneSlow5pt0]

its about the 08 cobalt SS

[ubers2k]

its about the 08 cobalt SS

Yes... 260 hp turbocharged... :crazy:

[Ran]

damn, amy, just bustin out ALL the good points today, huh?That's how I roll. :cool:


While the Sky does have sharp lines, they give the car an angular feeling and a boy-racer look.It's a turbocharged, two-seater convertible with almost no practicality. It should look like a boy-racer car. lol


It looks like it was made with a ruler compared to the Solstice.Perhaps, but the Solstice looks like something Humpty Dumpty would crap out after eating a Mazda Miata and Pontiac Grand Am while suffering from mass indigestion.

[OnURleft]

BMW I35i......easy question....400whp/450wtq with software. They are the same price as a new Sti and so much nicer/faster.

3 years ago I was the only one bringing an E36 M3 to car meets that wern't all BMW. Now I go to the varsity and they are all over the place!..to the point where my car is almost "another tuner." In reality though, tuning BMW's in the ATL scene is growing but still exclusive. Its hot right now...peolpe want them and i'm not being a loyalist or a brand whore...people flat out want to mod BMW's...the 335 is one of the hottest cars to have right now, the 135 will be even better..and starting around 34k its the same pice as an EVO/STi.


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/95ltw/1series_tii_1.jpg

[Mr_Mischif]

Perhaps, but the Solstice looks like something Humpty Dumpty would crap out after eating a Mazda Miata and Pontiac Am while suffering from mass indigestion.
Touche. :duel:

[Ran]

Touche. :duel:Well played good sir. My hat goes off to you.

[civic95]

V8 Domestics

[eViLMunkey]

Subaru Brat w/ an EJ20t swap FTW!

[IndianStig]

BMW I35i......easy question....400whp/450wtq with software. They are the same price as a new Sti and so much nicer/faster.

3 years ago I was the only one bringing an E36 M3 to car meets that wern't all BMW. Now I go to the varsity and they are all over the place!..to the point where my car is almost "another tuner." In reality though, tuning BMW's in the ATL scene is growing but still exclusive. Its hot right now...peolpe want them and i'm not being a loyalist or a brand whore...people flat out want to mod BMW's...the 335 is one of the hottest cars to have right now, the 135 will be even better..and starting around 34k its the same pice as an EVO/STi.


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/95ltw/1series_tii_1.jpg


agreed, a 135i would be the smartest choice but a 535i wagon would be so ****ing sick.

[JITB]

id like to see a cheaper car with a build, rather than a buying a new car and adding expensive parts the regular joe wouldnt even think about buying..