Best way to drift?

[CAdamson16]

i'm running a 1990 300ZX on stock rims with Goodyears all around car is a 3 speed auto with overdrive. just trying to learn on some back roads and see how fun it is i can throw and counter out of and back inoto doughnuts, but i really just wanna learn how to gilide around corners. any help is awesome

[CAdamson16]

and also for those that don't know the 300zx is rear wheel drive with a 24 valve DOHC it's not much but that all could change soon like the additon of twin turbos could be in the near future

[00CelicaGT]

dont wast ur time if it's an auto. ur only gonna tear up the tranny!

[Dominic49]

make it out to the drift event in cordele the 21st!

[jR1_kS14]

don't do it. You have no weight in the back....all of it is in the front. the most you can do is probably slide the car.

[UpSideDownDesi]

sideways+pole = best way

[Thighs]

sell your stupid automatic boat car. if you want to drift, buy a decent car like a 240 or a e30 with a 5 SPEED and learn in the rain.

[Sneezin]

watch tokyo drift...it will tell you everything you need to know...

[Nissan Sean]

^lol. driftin an auto. "shakes head in a dissapointed manner"

[EJ25RUN]

and you bought an auto? why?

[§treet_§peed]

first off you would need to drive you car off a cliff and get insurance money to buy another car with.. because all motor stock 300zx's suck ass.. the only good 300zx's stock are manual bossted ones..

[EJ25RUN]

first off you would need to drive you car off a cliff and get insurance money to buy another car with.. because all motor stock 300zx's suck ass.. the only good 300zx's stock are manual bossted ones..

wrong again you fuk wad.

I had a NA 300zx 5 speed hard top... i liked the low end power the NA had over the boosted car and it was easier to control a car with 200hp instead of it all on the top end.

You have 17,000 posts and you are the biggest moron on this site, I don't get you, how can a person be as stupid as you are?

[CAdamson16]

i think it might have some hidden things done to it that i don'ty know about however becaquse i have beaten a Rx-8

[EJ25RUN]

i think it might have some hidden things done to it that i don'ty know about however becaquse i have beaten a Rx-8

read what you just wrote and think about if it means anything.

[mogaffar]

honestly being a 300zx TT owner, id say **** a 300zx NA and get a TT. But as for drifting,300's are terrible to drift.. weigh to much.

[cactusEG]

drift bible:::::

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UyG0mWtcp6Y

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OO1uXMPc0yo

[§treet_§peed]

wrong again you fuk wad.

I had a NA 300zx 5 speed hard top... i liked the low end power the NA had over the boosted car and it was easier to control a car with 200hp instead of it all on the top end.

You have 17,000 posts and you are the biggest moron on this site, I don't get you, how can a person be as stupid as you are? you dumb fag can you not read.. he said AUTOMATIC not a 5 spd wait let me super size that for you HE SAID HE HAS AN AUTOMATIC STOCK 300ZX and the last time i checked and i am pretty sure that most will agree with me THEY PHUCKING SUCK BALLS.....

[EJ25RUN]

first off you would need to drive you car off a cliff and get insurance money to buy another car with.. because all motor stock 300zx's suck ass.. the only good 300zx's stock are manual bossted ones..

Look dipsh!t, you clearly wrote BOSSTED 300ZX.

[§treet_§peed]

o wow and like you have never misstyped a word in your life?? o my bad maybe some one should make misspeling illegal. o wait then every one would be in jail jackass.

[§treet_§peed]

also why are you following my around from thread to thread stalking me and ****? sorta gay or nut swinging if you ask me..... :goodjob:

[EJ25RUN]

o wow and like you have never misstyped a word in your life?? o my bad maybe some one should make misspeling illegal. o wait then every one would be in jail jackass.

I have one in a while, (rarely). But i don't repeatedly misspell pre 4th grade words.



also why are you following my around from thread to thread stalking me and ****? sorta gay or nut swinging if you ask me.....

Asshat, I posted in this thread before you did. I'm checking if anyone replied to me. Then i have to let IA know what you wrote is B.s.

[§treet_§peed]

^ o wow you really go me there.. it hurts real bad. lolol dude when i type on here i really don't pay attention to wtf i am doing i don't honestly care unless it is a really serious time. and wow i realy care about what you think??
Birthday:
November 7, 1986
Location:
IA... Court order, im not allowed to get off.
Gender:
male

anyways you posted just mearly 20 minutes before me

[EJ25RUN]

^ o wow you really go me there.. it hurts real bad. lolol dude when i type on here i really don't pay attention to wtf i am doing i don't honestly care unless it is a really serious time. and wow i realy care about what you think??
Birthday:
November 7, 1986
Location:
IA... Court order, im not allowed to get off.
Gender:
male

anyways you posted just mearly 20 minutes before me

Look im done. Just read post #72 and say whatever. (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164320&page=4&pp=20)

[v-empire]

awesome.

come out to the drift event in cordele on the 21st on a friday night.

you can drift your auto NA 300zx.

its a little bit of a challenge in comparison to other wheelbased manual rwd cars, but definitely doable!

no worries, learn to steer, brake and throttle control.
its shifting of weight and balance, you can even do it on a fwd auto car....
obviously not a smart choice of platform but doable..lol

you will have so much fun.


its gonna be a night event so thats to your advantage, you can make a few adjustments with tires and simple setup to make it alot easier.
if you need help or have questions, there are people who will help at the event.

only 70 bucks and can get more info at southeastdrift.com or 240atlanta.com

good luck.

[down_shift]

Cadamson16 the 300zx, TT or not, is not a very popular drift platform. Autos will always be much much harder to drift.

That being said it is possible. Its just going to take a lot of practice. Like V-Empire said come to Cordele on the 21st. A real (legal) event like this is the only way your going to make any progress as a driver. Check the forums he listed in events. If you sign up Im sure you can find some people to follow down there and even split a room with.

If your serious about trying to learn come out, we always welcome new drivers and have instructors on hand to help teach you.

[Revmaynard]

Go up to the Dragon with a steering wheel lock on at full speed. Best method I can think of.













Results may vary.

[aznanhnhan86]

awesome.

come out to the drift event in cordele on the 21st on a friday night.

you can drift your auto NA 300zx.

its a little bit of a challenge in comparison to other wheelbased manual rwd cars, but definitely doable!

no worries, learn to steer, brake and throttle control.
its shifting of weight and balance, you can even do it on a fwd auto car....
obviously not a smart choice of platform but doable..lol

you will have so much fun.


its gonna be a night event so thats to your advantage, you can make a few adjustments with tires and simple setup to make it alot easier.
if you need help or have questions, there are people who will help at the event.

only 70 bucks and can get more info at southeastdrift.com or 240atlanta.com

good luck.

:goodjob:

[Doppelgänger]

Best way to learn to drift is to do donuts and boast to everyone that you are a Formula-D licensed driver. No one will want to do drift battle with you. The best part is you'll save money on tires because everyone will know you're the #1 drifter in your area so you'll never have to actually drift.

Or just go up to the mountains and start driving really hard... you'll learn how to drift. If you don't learn, you'll know it.

[Tracy]

You can drift an auto, it will just be a harder learning curve. There is a dude in Myrtle Beach who drifts an auto Lexus. He is pretty good. I think you would be better off with a different platform. Your weight dist. and the auto is a double whammy. Good luck either way. Like some others said, try to make it out to an event. You will learn twice as much as if you street drift. Just my opinion.

[CAdamson16]

thanks dor al;l the input as for the event i'm gonna try just to be a noob but still u gotta learn somewhere

[Nick Jeezy]

well the drift event is the place to do it!

[SixSquared]

Go up to the Dragon with a steering wheel lock on at full speed. Best method I can think of.













Results may vary.

lmao @ fine print

But seriously... 300z... not a great drift platform. Not to say it can't be done, but there are other cars that it's much easier to drift in, and much less expensive to fix when you blow the motor and/or wreck (like s13 240s lol... dime a dozen)

[BuBBa DRiFT]

im not reading this thread

but the only driftable Zs are the NA 5speeds

twin turbo was hicas

[95alty]

what about a 5series bmw?

[Revmaynard]

Better yet.....get a Syclone.::ninja::

[Revmaynard]

Hmm, I thought this was the new shop car thread with him posting about a 5. LOL. WHOOPS.:doh:

[SiRed94]

no matter how much you practice... you will still never have a clutch to kick...

[itsnotarex]

Yeah, like everyone has so bluntly pointed out, drifting is difficult with an automatic unless you simply unsettle the car a ton with rapid weight transfers to get it to slide. You need intense control over your revs along with the ability to kick the clutch to really get some slip angle goin' on. This is really true even if you're just trying to rotate a car through a corner and not exactly "drifting."

Also, if you're going to drift, please don't on the road. Go to a track or even an empty parking lot (the latter isn't legal, exactly, but it's much safer). If you mess up on the road there's a good chance you'll die or kill someone else....which is of course no good. Spirited driving, sure, but drifting is not a public road activity, really. It's too "knife edge," or at least it seems that way. V-Empire seems to have a good place to smoke the tires a little. Rock that ****! :goodjob::bump::D

Some more good news is you've got a pretty nice car there. 300ZX FTW. :) Go get yourself a miata on the cheap or in trade for your car if you wanna get sideways, otherwise you can cruise in style and still enjoy your car on back roads just fine.

[BuBBa DRiFT]

i had a friend who went to a few events with a twin turbo Z, and had THE hardest time with the damn car, bought himself an s13, and his first time out killed it as if he had been doing so for years

drifting is mostly in the suitable application, different driving styles for different cars, but honestly, you are screwed unless you put it in lower gear in the rain or on dirt roads, thats really the only way you are gonna get actual angle and be able to control it.

ebrake is your friend in this situation

[DrivenMind]

Poor guy just asked a question on a car forum... only get flamed about his ride.

An automatic 300ZX is undoubtedly not the best platform to start drifting with, but the fundamentals are there. I would suggest an event, but to be totally honest with you, I don't foresee you having much fun with the automatic getting scared and upshifting all the time.

If you really want to get the basics down, find some huge, secluded parking lot that you can mess around in without running the risk of nailing a light pole, or curb, or something of that nature. Given your transmission however I would definitely suggest you have your fun in the rain.

Or if you're a little more brave, find some dirt roads, or big open dirt parking lots. The low friction provided by the surface ought to compensate for your heavy car, and it's evil transmission.

Start slow, and go by yourself, or with one other friend. To many cars attract unwanted attention, and by yourself you can start at your own pace; and commit yourself to understanding whats going on dynamically between your car, and the surface of the road. Be advised however, arrogance, and ignorance should never be mixed with performance driving; and trying to show off for people before you really know what you're doing could result in a totaled car.

Good luck in your endeavors sir, just be careful, and be mindful of your environment.

[speedminded]

lmao @ fine print

But seriously... 300z... not a great drift platform. Not to say it can't be done, but there are other cars that it's much easier to drift in, and much less expensive to fix when you blow the motor and/or wreck (like s13 240s lol... dime a dozen)lol, dually's and drag cars have less understeer than a 240.

Have you ever seen a Z32 Drift? Have you ever drifted a Z32 or driven one hard enough to slide?

They can be easily stripped down to under 3,000 lbs, how much do you think the "VIP" style sedans that are drifting weigh? Yes, a slightly longer wheel base but look at the Miata...they drift fine with the approprate driver correct and compare their wheel base to other vehicles. If you've never seen someone comfortable in a Z32 300zx then you don't know if they are good or bad to drift or not.

[speedminded]

i'm running a 1990 300ZX on stock rims with Goodyears all around car is a 3 speed auto with overdrive. just trying to learn on some back roads and see how fun it is i can throw and counter out of and back inoto doughnuts, but i really just wanna learn how to gilide around corners. any help is awesomeOne tire fires don't help with learning, get a limited slip then try.

[95alty]

Ok... so no one answered my question... what about a 5 series BMW???!!!

[speedminded]

Ok... so no one answered my question... what about a 5 series BMW???!!!Well, you've narrowed it down to 4 different generations of cars: e28, e34, e39, e60/61...?

[Doppelgänger]

Actually, a TT Z32 does just fine with drifting. Actually, it's a very smooth car, can make ~400rwhp with minor bolt-ons and tuning and has LSD. I've driven one and it felt great.

As for 240's..... i never knew what anyone meant by "understeer" until i drove one. Those damn things will understeer smack in the middle of a drift lmao. And they're not a dime a dozen, suddenly everyone is proud of the pile of sh!t and wants $2000 for a barely running 89 SOHC thats rusted out and the interior is junked. SR swaps still cost multiple thousands of dollars, and the people with spare KAs are holding onto them to turn a profit on the "kids" who are out there blowing them up all the time.

[Doppelgänger]

Ok... so no one answered my question... what about a 5 series BMW???!!!


No..... lack of LSD and a super soft suspension.

[speedminded]

No..... lack of LSD and a super soft suspension.Depends! Some older 5's had optional LSD's...and came stock in all the M5's.

[95alty]

e39 528i with upgraded suspension

[speedminded]

e39 528i with upgraded suspensionNo LSD and with style 42 wheels i'm gonna guess it's autotragic?

[DrivenMind]

lol, dually's and drag cars have less understeer than a 240.

Have you ever seen a Z32 Drift? Have you ever drifted a Z32 or driven one hard enough to slide?

They can be easily stripped down to under 3,000 lbs, how much do you think the "VIP" style sedans that are drifting weigh? Yes, a slightly longer wheel base but look at the Miata...they drift fine with the approprate driver correct and compare their wheel base to other vehicles. If you've never seen someone comfortable in a Z32 300zx then you don't know if they are good or bad to drift or not.

I don't think it's so much an issue of the wheelbase or weight, I think, and don't quote me on this, but I remember someone saying that Z32 had very very little steering angle. I would think that's an easily fixable problem with the right parts, but I'm not an expert on Z32's.

[speedminded]

I don't think it's so much an issue of the wheelbase or weight, I think, and don't quote me on this, but I remember someone saying that Z32 had very very little steering angle. I would think that's an easily fixable problem with the right parts, but I'm not an expert on Z32's.Weight and their wheel base has always been peoples excuse to why they can't drift in a Z32. What you don't know is those same people can't drift any other car either :tongue:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1458993676973502067&q=300zx+drift&total=482&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

[v-empire]

Weight and their wheel base has always been peoples excuse to why they can't drift in a Z32. What you don't know is those same people can't drift any other car either :tongue:



yup..assumption is a mother trucker... ahahaha..

yes, listen to people who cant do something and tell you it cant be done, is like taking advice from a begger on how to be rich.

your auto is 300000lbs is fine to drift.

your bmw 698899 with soft suspension and open diff is fine to drift..

you have to manipulate the balance and speed alittle, adjust throttle control and brakes, and turn faster...

may not the prettiest and not the longest drift but you can certainly do it.

however, you may develop bad habits from this and i have to advice you to get upgrades on your suspension, lsd, and alignment tuning...etc

i m just telling you to get out there and learn on the track coz you learn faster and understand the flaws, weakness, and strength of your driving and the car. and have fun doing so of course.

go out and enjoy your car, drive and learn how to drift and understand why and what, are good platforms, how to tune suspension, how to drift an auto, how to drift on crap alignment, how to adjust and adapt to different feel, car, tires....etc..

just get out there and smoke that shiat!

cum on.

do it in the butt.

we all look like idiots drifting anyways, you can be one too!

first timers are more welcome than last cummers.



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[Tracy]

DO IT ON THE TRACK!

[v-empire]

ITB

[v-empire]

event is tonight.

$5 dollar entry, $10 ride alongs its gonna be a blast.

you can pay at the gate

weather is a little chilly but nice, dress warm and blankets for some love juices.

night drifting. gotz a DJ playing progressive and vocal trance, DnB, ElectroHouse and what more, bring some vinyl if you want tracks played.

Food and drink vendor available.

brings your tire fire flies,strobe lights, disco balls, neon lights christmas lights etc etc, as long as its a not a safety and fire hazard issue, you are allowed to be a ricer tonight and have fun.


see you there. 7pm to 3 am of drifting to trance. loudness buttons up!

[Doppelgänger]

I don't think it's so much an issue of the wheelbase or weight, I think, and don't quote me on this, but I remember someone saying that Z32 had very very little steering angle. I would think that's an easily fixable problem with the right parts, but I'm not an expert on Z32's.

I think a lot of the "you can't drift a Z32" comes from people who seem to forget about the HICAS system....

[speedminded]

I think a lot of the "you can't drift a Z32" comes from people who seem to forget about the HICAS system....Only on TT's and it's easily bypassed/locked out.

[MskunkM]

first off you would need to drive you car off a cliff and get insurance money to buy another car with.. because all motor stock 300zx's suck ass.. the only good 300zx's stock are manual bossted ones..

i wish i had bosst :( LOL

[OnURleft]

Ok... so no one answered my question... what about a 5 series BMW???!!!

open diff on a E39 5. Go buy a limited slip if you want anything accomplished. This is comming from a previous 540i/6 owner who worked at a driving school which taught "holding slides" on skidpads/figure 8's/autocross and did "parent rides" on the afternoons with an open diff and a limited slip. When we wet the courses it was a blast..and drifting around a dry autrocross was easily accomplished with 300+ rwtq but anything hardcore sideways would have to be done at high speed in the dry to make up for the one wheel peel and the car would literally have to be chucked to get it at an angle. It was also really tricky to control and hold with one wheel and couldn't be done for long. I also blew my stock 2.81 open rear in the end doing these slides intentionally (had the new 3.15 in the garage). Oh well it was funny...

You have a 528i. You need an E30 or something you can slam and put stiff suspension on with no weight. You could make the 5 a fun wet drift car with an LSD for spirited wet power slides but thats about it short of tearing it down and adding alot of power to make up for the weight. Ideally you'd want to supercharge it or do a low lag T.R.M style turbo kit and some coil overs with very stiff spring rates to get it to where you could actually do some events with it successfully.

[RandomGuy]

I think a lot of the "you can't drift a Z32" comes from people who seem to forget about the HICAS system....i was just about to mention that whole super hicas bs... its dangerous not to tell these kids to mess with "drifting" w/o disabling it.

[v-empire]

if you can drift a crown vic , a semi truck, an 18 wheeler, a dually, a horse, a motorcycle, chicken soup, u can drift just about anything.

wont be the best, but you can... what was the question again?

pluto is no longer a planet apparently, and jesus wrestled a raptor dinosaur once.

go try it.

and take pictures please thanks..

[DunDunSkeert]

watch tokyo drift...it will tell you everything you need to know...
haha that is the best idea here!

[bigpanda16]

or do a 5speed swap?