Why is pot illegal?

[Andyc3020]

Why is marijuana illegal for recreational use? Give me a reason that does not contradict why Alcohol is legal. I dont smoke pot, but i have. i just can't figure out the laws. :screwy:

[batlude]

because it just is.... conspiracy!!!!

[DieselNuts]

this is an ongoing argument. A lot of people say that the only reason is because it cant be taxed. Thats BS. The govt. taxes EVERYTHING. There is no reason they cant tax wiid.

[Andyc3020]

i dont see any reason they couldn't tax it.

[DieselNuts]

Thats what im saying. They can tax it if they really want to, but I think the main thing is that so many people grow it, they dont really have a way to regulate it. If its home grown, then you cant tax it. Thats the only thing I can see.

[Andyc3020]

Thats what im saying. They can tax it if they really want to, but I think the main thing is that so many people grow it, they dont really have a way to regulate it. If its home grown, then you cant tax it. Thats the only thing I can see.

you can grow corn at home.

[DieselNuts]

yeah, you can also make your own moonshine, but that is illegal.

[Andyc3020]

i think its because people are too closed minded to think of pot as just another thing a lot of people do like cigarettes, alcohol... And even if a politician wanted to legalize it, he would be voted out of office.

[DieselNuts]

Honestly though, I really dont understand why its illegal. I dont know anyone that smokes and wants to fight the next person that smudges their puma, but you see that all the time with alcohol.

Im with you on this one man. It is starting to be more accepted in some states though.

[Andyc3020]

It might even stimulate the economy! lol. thats what they can tell ppl.

[redrumracer]

because many many many years ago there was this guy in congress that convinced people that MJ made people go crazy and do stupid things. he also convinced them that it was the "gateway drug", and that people would start to do harder drugs after trying MJ. now while this maybe true it can mainly be contributed to the fact the MJ is by far the easiest to obtain.<- true story btw not made up

[Thighs]

mj is a gateway drug. i know from seeing close family members go through rehab several times. i really dont think that most people who do harder drugs starts with those drugs. now while many people can smoke pot and be just fine, alot of people arent. its not the same as cigarettes, because cigarettes cause no major harmful mental defects, while pot kills alot of brain cells. i agree that alcohol is ALOT worse than pot, because i cant remember the last time i heard about a middle aged guy getting stoned and beating his family. pot is also more likely to produce less productive and less motivated people in my experiences. i dont smoke and i dont drink (often) and i wouldnt mind seeing them both outlawed.

just my .02.

btw, all of what ive said is based on my personal observations.

[DieselNuts]

i dont drink (often) and i wouldnt mind seeing them both outlawed.

So, you do drink...

oh, newsflash, wiid is illegal...

[Vayda]

i cant come up with a good reason why someone shouldnt be allowed to smoke in their own home on their own time, but it scares me for it to become readily available and mainstream. it's at least somewhat mind-altering, right? The last thing we need is someone lighting up and getting behind the wheel of a car. first of all if they smoke and drive at the same time, they've got less hands to use the wheel, so that's dangerous by itself. And then if they get high and then drive, that puts the rest of us as risk to be killed by a high driver.

I dunno. Alcohol has just as bad of effects, but i dont think it should be made illegal, so i'm torn on the issue.

[Thighs]

^^ yes, i do drink. like maybe 3-4 times a year.

and i know its illegal. i was just adding my opinion.

[DieselNuts]

The last thing we need is someone lighting up and getting behind the wheel of a car. first of all if they smoke and drive at the same time, they've got less hands to use the wheel, so that's dangerous by itself. And then if they get high and then drive, that puts the rest of us as risk to be killed by a high driver.

I dunno. Alcohol has just as bad of effects, but i dont think it should be made illegal, so i'm torn on the issue.


Whats the difference between a pot head and an alcoholic?

An alcoholic sees a stop sign and goes flying through it.

A pot head sees a stop sign, stops and waits for it to turn green.

There was a test dont in England (i think) where a guy drove through some cones and did some basic driving manuvers. He then went back to the pits, smoked a joint and went out for round 2. Suprisingly enough, his results were better than his sober run. The guy said that he concentrated on what he was doing more.

They repeated this a few times and the conclusion was that if you smoke too much, then it can be dangerous, but after a little bit, you actually concentrate better...

[3.14]

i don't smoke anything. never have. but i don't care what you do as long as you don't hurt someone else while doing it. you want to do meth? fine by me if you are locked in a room by yourself. so i really could careless if it is legalized.
but i do think the reason it is not legal has to do with taxing purposes. it is extremely easy to buy it one time (from a store so the gov't can tax you) and then just start growing it yourself. it isn't analogous to making your own alcohol. that is very difficult and can't be done in major batches without special tools. you can grow tons of weed in your basement or backyard. the second point to not being able to tax it is that if it was sold in stores and taxed it would cost more than just buying from a dealer. so how would the gov't profit from that?
i could possibly see it being legalized one day but it would still probably be illegal to grow it yourself (which would probably not stop many people) in an attempt for the gov't to make some cash.
i have also seen it's effects on people moving on to 'harder' drugs. i don't think it is too dangerous (no more so than alcohol) by itself but i do think it can lead to much more harmful substances and alcohol does not. i would say 50%+ of the people i know who started off just smoking pot went on to try other drugs. some wound up not being able to leave those other drugs so easily and it cost them big time.

[blacknightteg]

pot being a gateway drug can be a big arguement if you ask me. You scientifically cannot get addicted to pot physically, its only a mental addiction. Even then, its HARD to get addicted to it unless you do it EVERYDAY. i used to do it EVERYDAY every chance i had, but i stopped. I even tried harder drugs....not cuz of pot, but cuz i wanted to feel the experience that it would give me. It had nothing to do with pot. The only reason it can probably be considered a gateway drug is because of the people that revolve around it. Usually people that do harder drugs smoke pot as well and if a person who has never done harder drugs meets that person that does, and the person that does the hard stuff asks if they want to try stuff like coke, ice, meth, etc. then they might, its all about peer pessure, the thought of being cool. Pot is not a bad thing. Its not legalized because of that dueschebag in congress a long time ago and cuz it infact in no way can be taxed. If it was taxed there would still be people selling it outside of stores for a low price and people would go to that. either that or they would start just growing it and have it free. The government honestly is stupid for this whole "war on drugs" especially when it involves pot. I can understand harder ****. but the amount of money that they throw in to fund that, they could be using it for a hell of a lot better things. What astonishes me is people that get arrest or having it on them and what not, can get bigger sentences then people that do worse crimes.

All in all it can have something to do with religion....The country we live in is a country base on ****ing religion. regardless whether or not we believe it. separation of church and state is not there anymore. If big religious figures that influence the government dont want something. then they will have their wish

[DieselNuts]

Here is the video I was talking about:

CLICK ME! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3zou4F00Ic)

[3.14]

Whats the difference between a pot head and an alcoholic?

An alcoholic sees a stop sign and goes flying through it.

A pot head sees a stop sign, stops and waits for it to turn green.

There was a test dont in England (i think) where a guy drove through some cones and did some basic driving manuvers. He then went back to the pits, smoked a joint and went out for round 2. Suprisingly enough, his results were better than his sober run. The guy said that he concentrated on what he was doing more.

They repeated this a few times and the conclusion was that if you smoke too much, then it can be dangerous, but after a little bit, you actually concentrate better...

this study might be valid but that is if the person that is high IS CONCENTRATING on driving. when you are riding 4 deep with your friends talking about going to the gas station to get some munchies you aren't concentrating on driving. in a clinical setting it might be valid, but it wouldn't be that way (at least not often) in real life.

[blacknightteg]

i cant come up with a good reason why someone shouldnt be allowed to smoke in their own home on their own time, but it scares me for it to become readily available and mainstream. it's at least somewhat mind-altering, right? The last thing we need is someone lighting up and getting behind the wheel of a car. first of all if they smoke and drive at the same time, they've got less hands to use the wheel, so that's dangerous by itself. And then if they get high and then drive, that puts the rest of us as risk to be killed by a high driver.

I dunno. Alcohol has just as bad of effects, but i dont think it should be made illegal, so i'm torn on the issue.


this is got to be the stupidest thing....have you ever even smoked bud? anyone and everyone who has ever smoked bud knows for a fact that it doesnt impare their vision or sense of driving to an extent that its stupid. The only way it can even come close to that is somone just smokes too much and doesnt want to go ANYWHERE cuz their too high. Most people hate driving if their too high and wont untill they know the ok too.

[DieselNuts]

this study might be valid but that is if the person that is high IS CONCENTRATING on driving. when you are riding 4 deep with your friends talking about going to the gas station to get some munchies you aren't concentrating on driving. in a clinical setting it might be valid, but it wouldn't be that way (at least not often) in real life.
I agree with this 100%. If the song on the radio sucks, you then start to flip through your CD book, then concentrating on the CDs. Very very true.

[jew_boy]

people enjoy it to much

[Thighs]

from blacknightteg:
"Most people hate driving if their too high and wont untill they know the ok too."

you just shot your own point down. wouldnt they already be okay to drive if your argument held water? i know from riding with people that you really arent all that okay to drive after only 2 bowls, and not even fat ones.

what strikes me as funny, is that we can all agree that smoking pot makes you somewhat stupider than you were before, right? i mean, nobody argued with dieselnuts about a stoned driver waiting for a stop sigh to turn green... and that would be pretty stupid. and id be willing to bet that at least SOME (not all so dont get all butt hurt if you dont) of the people in this thread smoke pot on a regular basis, so how logical are these arguments? are they as logical as a green stop sign? hmm...

[blacknightteg]

[QUOTE]you just shot your own point down. wouldnt they already be okay to drive if your argument held water? i know from riding with people that you really arent all that okay to drive after only 2 bowls, and not even fat ones. [?QUOTE]

it all depends on how often you smoke and how much you smoke when you do. Also the quality of weed you are smoking, there are many factors that come into play if this is to be argued. I have been smoking sense i have been 15 and driven stoned multiple times with NO problems what so ever, regardless on who was in the car and who wasnt. If you havent even ever smoked, you have no real reason to criticize as you dont know how it actually effects YOU not someone tellin you how it does word of mouth

[Thighs]

BNT, id quote but my comp is being dumb.

but i see where your coming from on that, however my input is not based on word of mouth. its based on actual experiences not by me personally, but by personally witnessing its effects. dont take this personally because i dont know you, but i know from seeing it happen that smoking pot in on a regular basis can change a person from a reasonably productive average person to a low income, irresponsible, dumbaas who cant hold a job and spends money on pot rather than say, child support (if necessary), or gas money. you may not fall into this category and im not directing this at anybody in this thread, but it tends to happen to people who smoke pot. and if its not addicting, then why do i know 3 people who have been to rehab for it, 2 of whom have relapsed and 1 who is back in rehab as of now?

it is dangerous to drive while high, which is why i had to switch seats with my friend who i was riding with the other day after he smoked 2 bowls. im basing these statements off of experience, not word of mouth.

[blacknightteg]

Again, personally i dont think your arguement can hold up because you personally have never smoked. Yes, certain things may depend on the person. but pot is only addicting if you let it be. as i said, pot is not a physical addiction and that is a scientific fact, it is a physcological addiction. Most people smoke because it makes them relax and have good time. Not cuz its something they HAVE to have. people who have that happen is only because its a force of habit and to break out of that habit would **** up everything. Driving high is not dangerous, thats just my opinion, and im basing that off my experience of smoking for 5 years almost every day multiple times a day. again, it all depends on the person, but again as well i personally dont think your argument can hold up as YOU have not ever done it, im not talkin about your friends im talking about you

[Thighs]

im speaking about mj smokers in general. yes, YOU may be fine to drive high. but not everybody can. and it doesnt make the person less productive just because, but of you smoke as much as you say you do, can you pass a drug test? most likely not. and if it was legal, alot of companies would still test, if not more. so it would be tough to keep a job if you had to test, say once a month.

and if you smoke as much as you say you do, you must stay pretty well baked. if you are high right now, leave this thread. because regardless of what you say, everybody gets stupider while they are high. therefore your argument hold no water.

[blacknightteg]

i stopped smoking 2 months ago because i got tired of spending money on it and it got boring for me. When people have drug tests to pas most people are smart enough to stop for a while so that they can pass it. even if i were smoking alot still and was high right now while typing this to you i would still hold the same amount of knowledge that i would if i were not stoned. like how you speak about weed smokers in general cuz i bet you alot of people would be saying the same thing that i am saying. Honestly you can not judge anything of how weed works in a persons system untill it is in your system, not anyone elses. I dont understand why it is that people who have never smoked anything think its a bad thing to do. its no where near that. if it was then why would doctors prescribe it for people with glacoma? its used to help eye sight. so how does that make it bad. Weed isnt even as bad as cigarettes. You have to take into account all the weird chemicals that are put into the tabacco to make it addictind, which causes cancer and tons of other sickness's. pot is a natural substance grown out of a seed. taken off the plant and smoked. no damn chemicals added.

[Blownb18c]

pot > alcohol

always will be. <--period

Do you think if we found that smoking a tulip got us high they would outlaw it too?

** Subscribed, this could be funny to see people argue about things they have never tried or don't know anything about **

[Thighs]

pot is nowhere near physically better for you. your right about the chemicals, but unless your smoking a filtered joint you are taking in alot more tar than a filtered cigarette.

and no, you dont have to have smoked yourself to see what its effects are. if i was in here arguing and had NO experience around it, that would be one thing. however, i have seen with my own eyes what it does to people, so i know. but do you think that the people who were recording data and making assesments in the clinical study on how it affects driving were high? most likely not. it DOES cloud your judgement and thinking ability at least during the period that you are actually high, and eventually it has the same effect regardless.

if you think im wrong, skim over the previous posts in the thread. the posts made by smokers basically say these things:

1. pot makes you focus better
2. pot makes you drive better
3. pot isnt as bad for you as cigarettes

#3 is to an extent true, but its more of a compromise between the two. cigarettes have ****ty chemicals, pot has tar. its a trade. neither are good for you, but its arguable about which is better.

as far as pot being better than alcohol, it depends on the circumstances. pot doesnt make you beat your kids, which is a great thing. but pot makes you lazy and dumb, but thats okay since it only hurts you, not the people around you.

i dont necessarily think its a bad thing to do, but i know that my personality is very prone to addiction, plus it runs in the family. ill keep my distance. i dont smoke cigs because it stinks.

[KPowerEP3]

Actually, here's the thing. The tax thing isn't the issue: TECHNICALLY you CAN get a marijuana tax stamp from the government to legally have it. The problem lies in that you have to have it in your possession to obtain one, therefore you have it illegally, and are arrested on site for possession. The marijuana thing, in actuality, is just like SO MANY of our other extremist laws in that they were more or less passed as a panderance to a special interest group. Essentially, the legislative branch of our government was persuaded to criminalize marijuana by two groups: religious zealots and white racial supremacist ****heads. It's just like the prohibition act in the 20's which, as we all know, was repealed. I don't understand why the same stance wasn't taken with marijuana, honestly. I'm neither a user, nor a strong proponent for legalization, but in all honesty the laws on this subject, like many, are set to an outdated standard of morals and acceptance.

[Deke]

pot > alcohol

always will be. <--period


Eloborate please. Pot is larger than alcohol? Pot is better than alcohol? Pot has more effects than alcohol? Pot is more dangerous than alcohol? I have no idea what you mean by "pot > alcohol"

I'm in the field of thought that pot has no reason not to be legallized. And just to let you know, I'm not a pot head. I drink a pretty good amount (college), but I've only smoked maybe 3-5 times in my life.

Is it a gateway drug? I don't believe so. As someone else pretty much said earlier, the reason some people (notice the word some) who smoke go on to do other things is because the people they are around. Illegal activities tend to hang around together. If pot was legallized, you would no longer see the sketchy element of it (aka drug dealers).

:2cents:

[DieselNuts]

and if its not addicting, then why do i know 3 people who have been to rehab for it, 2 of whom have relapsed and 1 who is back in rehab as of now?

in the words of the great Bob Saggot:
do you know anyone that has sucked diick for pot? if your 3 friends that are in rehab for wiid havent sucked diick for it, then they are fukin puusies.

Sorry, I dont mean to dis your friends, but seriously, its mind over matter. Just like being on a diet. You dont physically need pot to function once you are "addicted". You just want it. Herion(sp) on the other hand is different. You have a physical addiction to it and they make synthetic heroin to help you get off of it.

I've been in that situation before and as long as you have enough will power, you can quit. Its actually pretty easy. When I was in highschool I smoked pot every chance I got, then I got a DUI and had to quit because of probation. It was simple. It was something I had to do and I did it.

[Lucky.]

its legal in Mexico, but only a certain amount per person.

[DieselNuts]

cigarettes have ****ty chemicals, pot has tar. its a trade. neither are good for you, but its arguable about which is better.

next time you are around a friend that smokes cigarettes, get them to put a piece of toilet/tissue paper on the end of the filter and tell me that there isnt any tar on there.

Cigaretts have just as much tar as pot, so when you compare the two, the tar cancels out and what do you have left? Cigarettes with shiity chemicals...

[2.3 Evo 8]

If pot was "legal" everybody would just grow it and the government couldn't make any money on it. It doesn't help them one bit to legalize it because if it did, it would be legal already.

Plus, for it to be legal and the government allow it to be sold, the price would be at the least twice as much as cigarettes. Nobody would pay those prices so again, they would resort to growing it themselves.

I know someone would say "why not grow tobacco then and save money on cigarettes"? Because I don't know anybody that smokes a joint every 15 minutes, but I do have friends that smoke that often. You would need a decent size garden to support a tobacco habit, but everybody knows you could support a pot habit with a few plants.

[DieselNuts]

Plus, for it to be legal and the government allow it to be sold, the price would be at the least twice as much as cigarettes. Nobody would pay those prices so again, they would resort to growing it themselves.

I guess you have never bought wiid. if you had, you would know that a carton of joints would cost you waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaay more than 50 bucks. If I could get pot for twice as much as cigarettes, I wold become a drug dealer RIGHT NOW.

[Im Thinkin RBs]

i think its because people are too closed minded to think of pot as just another thing a lot of people do like cigarettes, alcohol... And even if a politician wanted to legalize it, he would be voted out of office.

Close minded I agree ... nothings wrong with the budsky dude . haha . It isn't hurting anyone why should it matter if a responsible user smokes pot ? Too many people get thrown in jail for possesion charges and what not and the real criminals are out on the street .... hate crime

[blacknightteg]

pot is nowhere near physically better for you. your right about the chemicals, but unless your smoking a filtered joint you are taking in alot more tar than a filtered cigarette.

and no, you dont have to have smoked yourself to see what its effects are. if i was in here arguing and had NO experience around it, that would be one thing. however, i have seen with my own eyes what it does to people, so i know. but do you think that the people who were recording data and making assesments in the clinical study on how it affects driving were high? most likely not. it DOES cloud your judgement and thinking ability at least during the period that you are actually high, and eventually it has the same effect regardless.

if you think im wrong, skim over the previous posts in the thread. the posts made by smokers basically say these things:

1. pot makes you focus better
2. pot makes you drive better
3. pot isnt as bad for you as cigarettes

#3 is to an extent true, but its more of a compromise between the two. cigarettes have ****ty chemicals, pot has tar. its a trade. neither are good for you, but its arguable about which is better.

as far as pot being better than alcohol, it depends on the circumstances. pot doesnt make you beat your kids, which is a great thing. but pot makes you lazy and dumb, but thats okay since it only hurts you, not the people around you.

i dont necessarily think its a bad thing to do, but i know that my personality is very prone to addiction, plus it runs in the family. ill keep my distance. i dont smoke cigs because it stinks.


im sorry but your arguement seriously = FAIL. You cannot compare the two ( pot and cigarettes). with the amount of chemicals that they put into those ****ing death sticks cigarettes are by far more worse for you then a joint of pot. there too many chemicals to list with names i have never been able to pronounce that are in cigarettes, where as in pot, there is just strong ass THC. Pot is not physically addicting substance and never will be as long as it is around unless tobacco companies get ahold of it and start putting chemicals in it to make it so. Like deiselnuts said. pot is something that you can easliy get off of as long as you want too. If you dont, then you will keep smoking on it. As long as you have the will to do so. I highly honestly doubt your friends were actually addicted to pot, they just didnt want to stop smoking it so they got sent to rehab to maybe help make them want to stop. but if they relapsed, well **** happens. smoking pot is only as harmful to your as you make it. if you do it responisibly, then you will have no problem what so ever. If you know when its time for you to truely stop then you can. How do you think i stopped....i'd been smoking for a long time, one day i came home and could smell myself ( being around friends that smoke cigarettes and what not on a constant basis as well as pot) so i decided to stop. As luck would have it, i also go sick so i couldnt even smoke. so you know what i did, said **** it and stopped. its not hard

If pot its considered to be a gate way drug...then i guess it made me start smoking cigarettes, which i stopped. Why did i start because i was around people that did all the time and i didnt want to feel left out. Drug uses is all about who you are around and how often you are around them. if you associate yourself with people that just love to do drugs. your gunna end up being one of those types of people doing it every day. if you dont, then you might do it every now and then if its around if your out somewhere. but in no way shape and or form are you going to end up like some crackhead did, just cuz you occasionally smoke, or even smoke a few times a week. Pot is not a mind altering substance, it just may make you lazy. if it does, thats cuz you allow it. I know for a fact that when ever i was high with friends. we never just stood or sat around. we always wanted to do something. it does not make you less productive what so ever.

[blacknightteg]

I guess you have never bought wiid. if you had, you would know that a carton of joints would cost you waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaay more than 50 bucks. If I could get pot for twice as much as cigarettes, I wold become a drug dealer RIGHT NOW.


lol i would laugh tht the price of a carton of Joints.

[Revmaynard]

I drank before I ever smoked weed. But I tried exstacy before I tried weed. It's different for everyone. I've found weed to be the least inhibiting, or at least the one that would allow to me to be high from it and still get by doing my daily activities. When I've drank I get drunk and sloppy and rolls just made me really excited feeling and way energetic (out of the norm) lol. But eh, just an opinion. Ron Paul wants to legalize weed from what I've read into. But whatever.

[dnugs03rsx]

well this is what the history channel said haha

that back in the years around the 20s-50s dunno the exact time that out west mexicans were bringing it with them across the border and were getting to lazy to work and that black musicians were using it for music it was all propoganda started by the DEA in its early years when that guy was leading the dept. he didnt even want to be on the case of marijuana he thought there were worse drugs out there and slowly realized blah blah yes it is a gateway for some people and because putting a tax on it but the taxes they had were only few and that was one way to locate the ppl using it i have more but im about to go clubbin

[blacknightteg]

well this is what the history channel said haha

that back in the years around the 20s-50s dunno the exact time that out west mexicans were bringing it with them across the border and were getting to lazy to work and that black musicians were using it for music it was all propoganda started by the DEA in its early years when that guy was leading the dept. he didnt even want to be on the case of marijuana he thought there were worse drugs out there and slowly realized blah blah yes it is a gateway for some people and because putting a tax on it but the taxes they had were only few and that was one way to locate the ppl using it i have more but im about to go clubbin


its 430 in ther afternoon where the **** are you goin clubbin lol

[Im Thinkin RBs]

its 430 in ther afternoon where the **** are you goin clubbin lol


AHAHAHAHAHA !

[Im Thinkin RBs]

[QUOTE]you just shot your own point down. wouldnt they already be okay to drive if your argument held water? i know from riding with people that you really arent all that okay to drive after only 2 bowls, and not even fat ones. [?QUOTE]

it all depends on how often you smoke and how much you smoke when you do. Also the quality of weed you are smoking, there are many factors that come into play if this is to be argued. I have been smoking sense i have been 15 and driven stoned multiple times with NO problems what so ever, regardless on who was in the car and who wasnt. If you havent even ever smoked, you have no real reason to criticize as you dont know how it actually effects YOU not someone tellin you how it does word of mouth

Yeah good point . Dude smoking and driving is easy but the road feels like it goes on for fcking forever .

[blacknightteg]

[QUOTE=blacknightteg]

Yeah good point . Dude smoking and driving is easy but the road feels like it goes on for fcking forever .


**** ya it does.....lol, but oh well haha.

[01CDMLUDER]

its illegal because some guy made everyone think that it makes people crazy. then congress passed a bill where u can sell weed if you had some kind of stamp or something showing you paid taxes on it. but the gov never gave the stamps to anybody. then sometime in the 70's they passed a new law that made it illegal to sell.
i dont know its still illegal.

[Im Thinkin RBs]

[QUOTE=keitakse]


**** ya it does.....lol, but oh well haha.

Hahaha yeah man it's crazy but everything is better when you pull up into taco bell drive thru ftw !

[blacknightteg]

[QUOTE=blacknightteg]

Hahaha yeah man it's crazy but everything is better when you pull up into taco bell drive thru ftw !



fuuuuck yes...stoner heaven hahahahah. lol the only thing about pot thats bad in my opinion is that it makes you fat cuz your alwasy hungry, and your hungry cuz your bored as **** sitting around

[DieselNuts]

smoking pot is only as harmful to your as you make it. if you do it responisibly, then you will have no problem what so ever. .
True. At one point I was feeling really depressed. I cut back on the Wiid smoking and *voila* depression gone. That is one bad side effect that I do admit that it has had on me. But I found out the solution and I fixed the problem.


If pot its considered to be a gate way drug...then i guess it made me start smoking cigarettes, which i stopped. Why did i start because i was around people that did all the time and i didnt want to feel left out. Drug uses is all about who you are around and how often you are around them. if you associate yourself with people that just love to do drugs. your gunna end up being one of those types of people doing it every day. if you dont, then you might do it every now and then if its around if your out somewhere. but in no way shape and or form are you going to end up like some crackhead did, just cuz you occasionally smoke, or even smoke a few times a week. Pot is not a mind altering substance, it just may make you lazy. if it does, thats cuz you allow it. I know for a fact that when ever i was high with friends. we never just stood or sat around. we always wanted to do something. it does not make you less productive what so ever.

This is also very true. When I got my DUI, not only did I quit because of probation, but I also started school and my classes were early as shiit in the AM and all my wiid smoking buddies worked nights at a sports bar. Because of this, I didnt really hang out anymore except on the weekends and that mad it VERY easy to quit.

[Im Thinkin RBs]

[QUOTE=keitakse]



fuuuuck yes...stoner heaven hahahahah. lol the only thing about pot thats bad in my opinion is that it makes you fat cuz your alwasy hungry, and your hungry cuz your bored as **** sitting around

HAHAHAHAH I KNOW !!! It sucks ! but I'm asian so I really can't get fat haha all my friends are getting fat but I'm getting there haha . Dude try light painting its really fun . Only other bad thing to is you forget **** alot .

[blacknightteg]

[QUOTE=blacknightteg]

HAHAHAHAH I KNOW !!! It sucks ! but I'm asian so I really can't get fat haha all my friends are getting fat but I'm getting there haha . Dude try light painting its really fun . Only other bad thing to is you forget **** alot .


hahah i used to have an asian buddy. haha we used to **** with him all the time.. he'd be like " im so baked" and i was like " dude, where the **** did your eyes go... i know your asian but god damn now there just perminantly shut!" might forget ****, but when you sober up, it comes right back. either that or someones does something to remind you with out knowing it

[Spektrewing386]

chuck yeager or bear grylls never got to their position by smoking pot.

[DieselNuts]

lol, this has gone from a debate to a stoner chat thread...lol

[Im Thinkin RBs]

[QUOTE=keitakse]


hahah i used to have an asian buddy. haha we used to **** with him all the time.. he'd be like " im so baked" and i was like " dude, where the **** did your eyes go... i know your asian but god damn now there just perminantly shut!" might forget ****, but when you sober up, it comes right back. either that or someones does something to remind you with out knowing it

All my friends do that too there like where the fck your eyes go jap boy haha I'm like hell if i know . Yeah you remember things too late haha . Idk best thing is when you cut back for like a good week or so then go do it feels better becuase your not used to doing it all the time I guess .

[blacknightteg]

that is definetly true, lol dieselnuts, your right. oh well, i got tired of people trying talk about something they know nothing about...or rather one person.

[DieselNuts]

I had a teacher tell me that if I was gonna come to class high and study high that I should take the tests high. She said that things you learn sober, you remember sober and things you learn high, you remember high.

wether this is true or not, I dunno. But I made good grades and she didnt care if I was high as long as I continued to do good.


that is definetly true, lol dieselnuts, your right. oh well, i got tired of people trying talk about something they know nothing about...or rather one person.
yeah, but i think he realized he was loosing so he left.

Stoners:1
Dude that thinks he knows about stoners:0

[tony]

The same reason why Crack possession will get you YEARS and Cocaine wont.

Weed is legal where I grew up in Alaska and trust me.. there is no viable reason why it is illegal.

[Im Thinkin RBs]

lol, this has gone from a debate to a stoner chat thread...lol

haha your right ooops;)

[blacknightteg]

Im not goin to lie, when i was in highschool i would go to school high too. I honestly did better in school and paid more attention to what was being taught rather then when i was sober and just zoned out cuz i got bored as ****. EVERYTHING is interesting when your stoned

[Im Thinkin RBs]

I had a teacher tell me that if I was gonna come to class high and study high that I should take the tests high. She said that things you learn sober, you remember sober and things you learn high, you remember high.

wether this is true or not, I made good grades and she didnt care if I was high as long as I continued to do good.


yeah, but i think he realized he was loosing so he left.

Stoners:1
Dude that thinks he knows about stoners:0

Yeah dude I still make good grades and continue to good and being high or smoking doesn't affect it so I don't know whats so bad about it .

[blacknightteg]

its people who have never done it, automatically assume everything about it is bad. thats all it is. its all through propaganda and such

[DieselNuts]

its people who have never done it, automatically assume everything about it is bad. thats all it is. its all through propaganda and such
just like virgins thinking they will get pregnant if the give it up... :D

[R3RUN]

The government could easily tax it. Use the same laws as alcohol except replace the word alcohol with marijuana. lol. A little modification to the laws would be needed for sure but its a great starting point. Only reason it's still illegal is because of a negative public opinion towards politicians that vote for pro legalization legislation. Thats it. Honestly, if you want to stimulate the economy right now I think it would give a decent boost.

1) Food industry (especially fast food/junk food)
2) Gas stations would generate more money from sale of Marlboro Greens (hahahaha)
3) Government would have a huge influx of money, maybe pay off some debt or put a lot more cash towards education.

[Im Thinkin RBs]

its people who have never done it, automatically assume everything about it is bad. thats all it is. its all through propaganda and such

Yeah I know esp in fay co MEGA RELIGIOUS ! And make it such a big deal man I hate it . They automatically assume that your a bad person and all this crazy ideas and label and judge you because you smoke pot and what not its ignorant . Why should they care ?

[Im Thinkin RBs]

just like virgins thinking they will get pregnant if the give it up... :D

:bump: Ahahah REP !

[DieselNuts]

The government could easily tax it. Use the same laws as alcohol except replace the word alcohol with marijuana. lol. A little modification to the laws would be needed for sure but its a great starting point. Only reason it's still illegal is because of a negative public opinion towards politicians that vote for pro legalization legislation. Thats it. Honestly, if you want to stimulate the economy right now I think it would give a decent boost.

1) Food industry (especially fast food/junk food)
2) Gas stations would generate more money from sale of Marlboro Greens (hahahaha)
3) Government would have a huge influx of money, maybe pay off some debt or put a lot more cash towards education.

but the thing about it is that they are making a lot of money by busting dealers and having them post bail, people for DUIs and all sorts of shiit.

I think they think they will make more money by busting folks than they would by taxing folks.

[R3RUN]

but the thing about it is that they are making a lot of money by busting dealers and having them post bail, people for DUIs and all sorts of shiit.

I think they think they will make more money by busting folks than they would by taxing folks.
Wrong. The government spends billions every year paying to keep people in prison that are there for marijuana violations. Trials cost far more than they get from bail money. Not to mention the money to fund special departments and task forces that target marijuana. They definitely lose tons of money on it.

[DieselNuts]

Wrong. The government spends billions every year paying to keep people in prison that are there for marijuana violations. Trials cost far more than they get from bail money. Not to mention the money to fund special departments and task forces that target marijuana. They definitely lose tons of money on it.
True. I didnt think about that. You have a very valid point.

[blacknightteg]

but yet they loose money cuz there are more people probably in our prison systems for drugs then there is for other things that are worse then that.

[R3RUN]

Here's a small little snipit of info that I found real quick. I'll look for something more substantial.

http://www.nicic.org/Library/015413

[blacknightteg]

damn you rerun lol you hinted at it before me. although you did elaborate more then i would

[Im Thinkin RBs]

Theres more people that still roam the streets with far more important things that should be in prison and that we should direct our attention to than people with a little possesion charge no distriubtion of marijuana . I don't get why does the government wastes millions of dollars to keep Marijuana users in jail and all that riff raff ..... Well since marijuana is illegal why can't we just demcriminalize it for christ sakes ? Average and Responsible people everyday get locked up for it like adults who have families and what not lives get ruined for smoking bud ... If they decriminalize I think it would be alot better than the charges they have now adays .

[Im Thinkin RBs]

Funny stoner movie check it . http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165060

[R3RUN]

More cost statistics. This is a federal government report showing how much it costs to keep people in prison.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/spe01.pdf

Page 25 has a table showing the amount of prisoners are in jail for drug offenses. The page before has actual numbers.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/p06.pdf

Here's some quick math on that to get a dollar amount for the cost to hold drug offenders in US prisons. Now keep in mind this is for ALL drugs. I don't know if I can find any info on what percentage of drug inmates are there for marijuana. I also don't believe in all drugs being legal.

Ok it costs the US this amount to imprison drug offenders every year:

$5,648,910,000 (average cost per prisoner X prisoners in state facilities)

Thats just the cost to keep them in jail. Not including trials and police task forces etc. That is actually a low number because it does not include federal inmates.

[Im Thinkin RBs]

More cost statistics. This is a federal government report showing how much it costs to keep people in prison.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/spe01.pdf

Page 25 has a table showing the amount of prisoners are in jail for drug offenses. The page before has actual numbers.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/p06.pdf

Here's some quick math on that to get a dollar amount for the cost to hold drug offenders in US prisons. Now keep in mind this is for ALL drugs. I don't know if I can find any info on what percentage of drug inmates are there for marijuana.

Numbers will be up in a min.

Christ ....

[dnugs03rsx]

haha im in ireland yo thats why im goin clubbin its like 1000 here

[blacknightteg]

lol i was about to say, it didnt make any sense

[R3RUN]

Only number I could find is that 13.9% of all people in jail for drug convictions are there for marijuana. That is people actually serving time and doesn't count those that are just put on probation.

[DieselNuts]

Only number I could find is that 13.9% of all people in jail for drug convictions are there for marijuana. That is people actually serving time and doesn't count those that are just put on probation.

do you think that if we took 14% of that $5billion, that that would be a ballpark figure of how much is spent on keeping wiid violaters in jail?

[R3RUN]

For state prisons yes. That would be pretty accurate. Thats just to keep them there, too. Food, utilities, **** like that, not prosecute and stuff.

[Im Thinkin RBs]

Thats alot of money gone to waste

[DieselNuts]

yeah, A LOT of money. $790,847,400 would look pretty in my bank account....damnit...

[Im Thinkin RBs]

yeah, A LOT of money. $790,847,400 would look pretty in my bank account....damnit...

That would look amazing in mine : ] !! I'm broke : /

[DieselNuts]

yeah, Ive got a little cash in mine, but its just pocket change compared to 8 hundred million

[Im Thinkin RBs]

yeah, Ive got a little cash in mine, but its just pocket change compared to 8 hundred million

Of course ahahaha ...

[dnugs03rsx]

mmm id rather buy an 8million dollar field of mj dreams and have a huge party hmmm oh yeaa

[_Christian_]

More cost statistics. This is a federal government report showing how much it costs to keep people in prison.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/spe01.pdf

Page 25 has a table showing the amount of prisoners are in jail for drug offenses. The page before has actual numbers.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/p06.pdf

Here's some quick math on that to get a dollar amount for the cost to hold drug offenders in US prisons. Now keep in mind this is for ALL drugs. I don't know if I can find any info on what percentage of drug inmates are there for marijuana. I also don't believe in all drugs being legal.

Ok it costs the US this amount to imprison drug offenders every year:

$5,648,910,000 (average cost per prisoner X prisoners in state facilities)

Thats just the cost to keep them in jail. Not including trials and police task forces etc. That is actually a low number because it does not include federal inmates.

Jimmy Carter said the following in a message to congress in 1977: "Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to the individual than the use of the drug itself"...


Marijuana is illegal because of the hysteria and exaggerated propaganda of the 30's. The movement to outlaw marijuana was also backed by members of the alcohol prohibition establishment who were now out of work. Over the past 70 years there has been a campaign of disinformation and billions of tax dollars have been spent to billions $ spent to "trash" marijuana and it's users which is the reason for such a misinformed populous. Harry Anslinger was the most significant proponent for making marijuana illegal. He wanted to create an agency (Bureau of Narcotics) that could define both the problem and the solution. He enlisted the help of William Randolph Hearst, in an act of yellow journalism, to publish ridiculous tales about marijuana. Here are some of his more famous published quotes:

"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others."

"...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races."

"Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death."

"Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."

"Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing"

"You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother."

"Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind."

William Randolph Hearst did this because he hated mexicans. Mexicans who came into the country smoke a lot of weed. A texas senator was quoted saying "All Mexicans are crazy, and this stuff is what makes them crazy." William Randolph Hearst was also heavily invested in the timber for the production of his newspaper and didn't want hemp to be competition. He had also lost 800,000 acres of timberland to Pancho Villa (a mexican revolutionary general). Here are some quotes from some of Hearst's papers:

Marihuana makes fiends of boys in thirty days -- Hashish goads users to bloodlust."

"By the tons it is coming into this country -- the deadly, dreadful poison that racks and tears not only the body, but the very heart and soul of every human being who once becomes a slave to it in any of its cruel and devastating forms.... Marihuana is a short cut to the insane asylum. Smoke marihuana cigarettes for a month and what was once your brain will be nothing but a storehouse of horrid specters. Hasheesh makes a murderer who kills for the love of killing out of the mildest mannered man who ever laughed at the idea that any habit could ever get him...."
"Users of marijuana become STIMULATED as they inhale the drug and are LIKELY TO DO ANYTHING. Most crimes of violence in this section, especially in country districts are laid to users of that drug."

"Was it marijuana, the new Mexican drug, that nerved the murderous arm of Clara Phillips when she hammered out her victim's life in Los Angeles?... THREE-FOURTHS OF THE CRIMES of violence in this country today are committed by DOPE SLAVES -- that is a matter of cold record."


With the backing of Dupont Chemical company (patented nylon and wanted hemp removed from competition) they brought a plan before congress complete with a scrapbook full of Hearst editorials, stories of ax murderers who had supposedly smoked marijuana, and racial slurs. Dr. William C. Woodward, Legislative Council of the American Medical Association showed for the hearings. Woodward started by slamming Harry Anslinger and the Bureau of Narcotics for distorting earlier AMA statements that had nothing to do with marijuana and making them appear to be AMA endorsement for Anslinger's view. He also reproached the legislature and the Bureau for using the term marijuana in the legislation and not publicizing it as a bill about cannabis or hemp. At this point, marijuana was a sensationalist word used to refer to Mexicans smoking a drug and had not been connected in most people's minds to the existing cannabis/hemp plant. Thus, many who had legitimate reasons to oppose the bill weren't even aware of it. Woodward went on to state that the AMA was opposed to the legislation and further questioned the approach of the hearings, coming close to outright accusation of misconduct by Anslinger and the committee.
Here is what was said by woodward to the committee:
"That there is a certain amount of narcotic addiction of an objectionable character no one will deny. The newspapers have called attention to it so prominently that there must be some grounds for [their] statements [even Woodward was partially taken in by Hearst's propaganda]. It has surprised me, however, that the facts on which these statements have been based have not been brought before this committee by competent primary evidence. We are referred to newspaper publications concerning the prevalence of marihuana addiction. We are told that the use of marihuana causes crime.

But yet no one has been produced from the Bureau of Prisons to show the number of prisoners who have been found addicted to the marihuana habit. An informed inquiry shows that the Bureau of Prisons has no evidence on that point.

You have been told that school children are great users of marihuana cigarettes. No one has been summoned from the Children's Bureau to show the nature and extent of the habit, among children.

Inquiry of the Children's Bureau shows that they have had no occasion to investigate it and know nothing particularly of it.

Inquiry of the Office of Education--- and they certainly should know something of the prevalence of the habit among the school children of the country, if there is a prevalent habit--- indicates that they have had no occasion to investigate and know nothing of it.

Moreover, there is in the Treasury Department itself, the Public Health Service, with its Division of Mental Hygiene. The Division of Mental Hygiene was, in the first place, the Division of Narcotics. It was converted into the Division of Mental Hygiene, I think, about 1930. That particular Bureau has control at the present time of the narcotics farms that were created about 1929 or 1930 and came into operation a few years later. No one has been summoned from that Bureau to give evidence on that point.

Informal inquiry by me indicates that they have had no record of any marihuana of Cannabis addicts who have ever been committed to those farms.

The bureau of Public Health Service has also a division of pharmacology. If you desire evidence as to the pharmacology of Cannabis, that obviously is the place where you can get direct and primary evidence, rather than the indirect hearsay evidence."Committee members then proceeded to attack Dr. Woodward, questioning his motives in opposing the legislation. Even the Chairman joined in:
The Chairman: If you want to advise us on legislation, you ought to come here with some constructive proposals, rather than criticism, rather than trying to throw obstacles in the way of something that the Federal Government is trying to do. It has not only an unselfish motive in this, but they have a serious responsibility.

Dr. Woodward: We cannot understand yet, Mr. Chairman, why this bill should have been prepared in secret for 2 years without any intimation, even, to the profession, that it was being prepared.After some further bantering...
The Chairman: I would like to read a quotation from a recent editorial in the Washington Times:
The marihuana cigarette is one of the most insidious of all forms of dope, largely because of the failure of the public to understand its fatal qualities.

The Nation is almost defenseless against it, having no Federal laws to cope with it and virtually no organized campaign for combating it.

The result is tragic.

School children are the prey of peddlers who infest school neighborhoods.

High school boys and girls buy the destructive weed without knowledge of its capacity of harm, and conscienceless dealers sell it with impunity.

This is a national problem, and it must have national attention.

The fatal marihuana cigarette must be recognized as a deadly drug, and American children must be protected against it.That is a pretty severe indictment. They say it is a national question and that it requires effective legislation. Of course, in a general way, you have responded to all of these statements; but that indicates very clearly that it is an evil of such magnitude that it is recognized by the press of the country as such. And that was basically it. Yellow journalism won over medical science.

The committee passed the legislation on. And on the floor of the house, the entire discussion was:
Member from upstate New York: "Mr. Speaker, what is this bill about?"

Speaker Rayburn: "I don't know. It has something to do with a thing called marihuana. I think it's a narcotic of some kind."

"Mr. Speaker, does the American Medical Association support this bill?"

Member on the committee jumps up and says: "Their Doctor Wentworth[sic] came down here. They support this bill 100 percent."And on the basis of that lie, on August 2, 1937, marijuana became illegal at the federal level.

The entire coverage in the New York Times: "President Roosevelt signed today a bill to curb traffic in the narcotic, marihuana, through heavy taxes on transactions."


Really long post, I know. It's really interesting though. I paraphrased it so you all wouldn't have to do too much reading. I just copied and pasted the last bit. So there's your answer OP.

[dnugs03rsx]

reps +1 u did wat i was too lazy to do haha

[Im Thinkin RBs]

reps +1 u did wat i was too lazy to do haha

That bud gettin to ya hahaha Jk

[The12lber]

Why is marijuana illegal for recreational use? Give me a reason that does not contradict why Alcohol is legal. I dont smoke pot, but i have. i just can't figure out the laws. :screwy:

Because industrial hemp was competing with DuPont's artificial fabrics and therefore a threat to their bottom line, so DuPont played their cards and got the cultivation of industrial hemp outlawed by associating it with the supposed evils of cannabis consumption.

[R3RUN]

That bud gettin to ya hahaha Jk
Obviously not too much, thats one hell of a post.

[silversol]

because the government wants you to buy there drugs!

[thecrazyone]

HERE IS THE ANSWER..NOT JOKING THIS IS WHY POT IS ILLEGAL.....








BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL LOSE MONEY IF IT WERE LEGALIZED SPECIFICALLY HUNDREDS OF GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS THAT HAVE LARGE AMOUNT OF STOCK IN THE TEXTILES,FOOD, AND MEDICINE INDUSTRY'S.

SAD FACT AIN'T IT.

[Im Thinkin RBs]

Obviously not too much, thats one hell of a post.

Yeah it was :goodjob:

[2.3 Evo 8]

I guess you have never bought wiid. if you had, you would know that a carton of joints would cost you waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaay more than 50 bucks.

I was selling a lot more than weed back in the day. $120-200 1/4's and I'm not even gonna tell you the cost of a brick. Not proud of it now, but it paid the bills at the time. That was a long time ago and one of the many stupid things I did in my lifetime. I wasted money, lost friends, and most importantly lost pointless time in my life trying to make a buck the illegal way instead of earning it the hard way. All those road trips, late night phone calls, and money burned away. I could buy another vehicle for cash with the money I spent on drugs and pay for half of my house for the amount of money I spent trying to sell stuff.


If I could get pot for twice as much as cigarettes, I wold become a drug dealer RIGHT NOW.



It wouldn't cost that much if the Government allowed the tobacco company's to start selling weed. It would be more than cigarettes obviously, but in order to actually sell it for the lazy people that didn't want to grow it themselves, it would need to be somewhat inexpensive.

[Im Thinkin RBs]

I was selling a lot more than weed back in the day. $120-200 1/4's and I'm not even gonna tell you the cost of a brick. Not proud of it now, but it paid the bills at the time. That was a long time ago and one of the many stupid things I did in my lifetime. I wasted money, lost friends, and most importantly lost pointless time in my life trying to make a buck the illegal way instead of earning it the hard way. All those road trips, late night phone calls, and money burned away. I could buy another vehicle for cash with the money I spent on drugs and pay for half of my house for the amount of money I spent trying to sell stuff.





It wouldn't cost that much if the Government allowed the tobacco company's to start selling weed. It would be more than cigarettes obviously, but in order to actually sell it for the lazy people that didn't want to grow it themselves, it would need to be somewhat inexpensive.

Damn .

[autumnk5]

well i can see how weed is a gateway drug.

when i was younger, i said i would never smoke, drink, pop pills, snort, and shoot things up.

i first started to drink.. you have a good time and ****... but it's nothing compared to when i first took a hit from a blunt. i smoked heavily for my first few months. after a few months, it was wasn't enough. i started popping pills. and i still would not snort or shoot things up.

after smoking for two years, weed is blahhhhh now. i refuse to smoke weed. if i take a hit, i feel like doing nothing. i would eat or just take a nap. and i get pounding headaches sometimes if it's mid. so when i smoked before new year's, it was always something like grandaddy purp, homegrown, kush, popcorn, and etc.

so to smoke weed, i would take an amphetamine (sorry can't spell) like adderal and i got very addicted to caffeine. just to smoke weed.

so i decided to stop. but you can see how it can be a gateway drug.

[redpanda]

any one ever tried taxed weed? iirc Salvia is what its called. tastes like rotten milk

[The Ninja]

I was selling a lot more than weed back in the day. $120-200 1/4's and I'm not even gonna tell you the cost of a brick. Not proud of it now, but it paid the bills at the time. That was a long time ago and one of the many stupid things I did in my lifetime. I wasted money, lost friends, and most importantly lost pointless time in my life trying to make a buck the illegal way instead of earning it the hard way. All those road trips, late night phone calls, and money burned away. I could buy another vehicle for cash with the money I spent on drugs and pay for half of my house for the amount of money I spent trying to sell stuff.





It wouldn't cost that much if the Government allowed the tobacco company's to start selling weed. It would be more than cigarettes obviously, but in order to actually sell it for the lazy people that didn't want to grow it themselves, it would need to be somewhat inexpensive.

You must have sucked.

[Im Thinkin RBs]

You must have sucked.


Bahahah ouchtown . How did you get the katakana to show under your display name ?

[BB6dohcvtec]

wow can't believe this **** is still going on.....its ****ing weed its not a gateway drug. Does the weed tell you to go snort cocaine or shoot up no! and prescription drugs are the most abused drugs in America and combined with alcohol they are 10x more deadly than weed could ever be. This thread ****ing dumb, i am going to tell myself to gtfo because people just don't know unless they have done it.

[autumnk5]

i think weed should be legal... i just won't do it. i know many people who have a good life. After a long day at work, they won't to smoke a couple of joints or blunts. It just calms them down.

I'm not saying weed tells you to snort cocaine or shoot anything. i'm just saying the feeling weed gave me, made me eventually want to pop pills. i've never shooted anything up and don't plan on it.

but i know many people who started with weed and are now taking everything known just to get ****ed up.

[blacknightteg]

well i can see how weed is a gateway drug.

when i was younger, i said i would never smoke, drink, pop pills, snort, and shoot things up.

i first started to drink.. you have a good time and ****... but it's nothing compared to when i first took a hit from a blunt. i smoked heavily for my first few months. after a few months, it was wasn't enough. i started popping pills. and i still would not snort or shoot things up.

after smoking for two years, weed is blahhhhh now. i refuse to smoke weed. if i take a hit, i feel like doing nothing. i would eat or just take a nap. and i get pounding headaches sometimes if it's mid. so when i smoked before new year's, it was always something like grandaddy purp, homegrown, kush, popcorn, and etc.

so to smoke weed, i would take an amphetamine (sorry can't spell) like adderal and i got very addicted to caffeine. just to smoke weed.

so i decided to stop. but you can see how it can be a gateway drug.

im sorry but that honestly does not consitute it being considered a gateway drug. People can smoke weed fine with out ever having to do harder things to get by and feel a buz. Like i said in a post earlier, it depends on who you are around that makes you do harder things that you do. Its all about peer pressure, peer pressure is the gateway drug. it all depends on what you are around. if there are people that you are around all the time that start doing harder things your goin to start doing harder things as well just so you wont feel left out. Pot is not a gateway drug.

[autumnk5]

i didn't say it WAS a gateway drug.

i said i can see how it CAN BE a gateway drug.

get it right.

[crf150]

i dont know if this has been said but the government cant tax something thats so easy to make your self.

[blacknightteg]

i didn't say it WAS a gateway drug.

i said i can see how it CAN BE a gateway drug.

get it right.


it still CANT BE.....what you do is all in who you hangout with and what rubs off on you and what you want to do

[thecrazyone]

HERE IS THE ANSWER..NOT JOKING THIS IS WHY POT IS ILLEGAL.....








BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL LOSE MONEY IF IT WERE LEGALIZED SPECIFICALLY HUNDREDS OF GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS THAT HAVE LARGE AMOUNT OF STOCK IN THE TEXTILES,FOOD, AND MEDICINE INDUSTRY'S.

SAD FACT AIN'T IT.

TROOF!

[Im Thinkin RBs]

im sorry but that honestly does not consitute it being considered a gateway drug. People can smoke weed fine with out ever having to do harder things to get by and feel a buz. Like i said in a post earlier, it depends on who you are around that makes you do harder things that you do. Its all about peer pressure, peer pressure is the gateway drug. it all depends on what you are around. if there are people that you are around all the time that start doing harder things your goin to start doing harder things as well just so you wont feel left out. Pot is not a gateway drug.

Hes got a point .
I've been smoking almost 3 years and it hasn't affected me at all or wanted to do other drugs besides mushrooms ... Idk pyschedellics are awsome but thats besides the point ... I'm still functioning fine making good grades etc .. Like blacknightteg said its all about peer pressure really ... and the people who hangout around it tends to rub off unless your stronger and better than that and know when to stop or what to do or not to do its all in responsible good judgment i guess .

[DC2NR]

I didn't know weed was illegal...:ninja:

[Im Thinkin RBs]

I didn't know weed was illegal...:ninja:
hahahahahha

[thecrazyone]

HERE IS THE ANSWER..NOT JOKING THIS IS WHY POT IS ILLEGAL.....








BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL LOSE MONEY IF IT WERE LEGALIZED SPECIFICALLY HUNDREDS OF GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS THAT HAVE LARGE AMOUNT OF STOCK IN THE TEXTILES,FOOD, AND MEDICINE INDUSTRY'S.

SAD FACT AIN'T IT.

as stated before...TROOF!

/thread.

[DieselNuts]

well i can see how weed is a gateway drug.

when i was younger, i said i would never smoke, drink, pop pills, snort, and shoot things up.

i first started to drink.. you have a good time and ****... but it's nothing compared to when i first took a hit from a blunt. i smoked heavily for my first few months. after a few months, it was wasn't enough. i started popping pills. and i still would not snort or shoot things up.

after smoking for two years, weed is blahhhhh now. i refuse to smoke weed. if i take a hit, i feel like doing nothing. i would eat or just take a nap. and i get pounding headaches sometimes if it's mid. so when i smoked before new year's, it was always something like grandaddy purp, homegrown, kush, popcorn, and etc.

so to smoke weed, i would take an amphetamine (sorry can't spell) like adderal and i got very addicted to caffeine. just to smoke weed.

so i decided to stop. but you can see how it can be a gateway drug.

You said "i first started to drink.. you have a good time and shiit... but it's nothing compared to when i first took a hit from a blunt." There for, you are contradicting yourself. Alcohol was your gateway drug...


any one ever tried taxed weed? iirc Salvia is what its called. tastes like rotten milk
Yes, Ive tryed that shiit. Some of my friends were like, "have you ever smoked salvia"? Im like "naw, wtf is that"? They are all like, "OMG, you gotta try it". I say fuk it and my buddy packs a bowl for me and I hit that shiit hard as shiit with a propane lighter......never again man. That shiit was sooo fukin crazy. Its like peaking on acid for 3min. I hate acid. I had an out of body experience and saw myself sitting on the couch with 2 of my friends. I will never ever ever do acid again because of that, and salvia is too fuked up for me.

Its just weird. I had never heard of salvia untill I tryed it, and now when I ask someone if they know what it is, they are like "yeah, and I'll never do it again". I wish they were around before I tryed it...FUK THAT SHIIT!

The worst part about it is that shiit is legal and you know that at some point someone has hit that shiit while they were driving down the road. There is no way you could control a car after hitting that shiit the way I did.

ugh...never again...

[Z32redondo]

**** that man. I was smoking for a long as time. Like since the 8th grade. Its not addicting. Thats always a funny one to hear from people. I have quit many times and had no problem saying no to it during the period I had been clean.

And in my opinion I think the grinchy would be alot better off legalized. Many more jobs availible to people. I mean think about it...who else is better at growing good **** other than drug dealers. Many drug dealers could get jobs and the streets would be better off.

And whoever said that people who smoke pot are stupid can GTFO. I am more intelligent than most people. You really can say anything if you have never tried it.

And as far as driving goes. You drive better because you are more concenrated. And I am no scientist or anything. And that is coming from personal experiences.

Also...to end on a final note.

Tobacco 435,000
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,000
Alcohol 85,000
Microbial Agents 75,000
Toxic Agents 55,000
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000
Suicide 30,622
Incidents Involving Firearms 29,000
Homicide 20,308
Sexual Behaviors 20,000
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,000
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600
Marijuana 0



That would be the annuel amount of deaths in the US and their causes. My point...marijuana has never been the cause of any deaths in the US. More from ciggerettes and alcohol. And as far as ciggerettes and grinchy go...you cant get cancer from grinchy.

[Spektrewing386]

my sister transfered to cocaine and crystal meth from weed, but my family and her friends got her help.




anyway, DRUGS ARE FOR THE WEAK

lol at the kids smoking pot since age 15 (keitakse), you must be some cool dude.

[Humphrizzle]

i do not smoke regularly but i see no problem with it.

i do see cocaine and meth being illegal. they should stay that way.

The only reason i see marijuana being illegal is the fact that they have no real way of taxing it. If the US had their own weed crops across the nation, i say they could easily fix the economy with the money they'll make.

Either that or ban ALCOHOL!!! MAKE IT FAIR, BIATCHES!!!! AHAAAAA

[tippatone]

[QUOTE=PsychoSquirl]my sister transfered to cocaine and crystal meth from weed, but my family and her friends got her help.




anyway, DRUGS ARE FOR THE WEAK

lol at the kids smoking pot since age 15 (keitakse), you must be some cool dude.[/QUOT


I smoke weed, as a matter of fact i am about to blaze one up,but never in my life did i feel like i had to rob to smoke a blunt and if i did not have weed it was not a big deal. Weak people are just weak, with or without drugs they will be weak

[tippatone]

i do not smoke regularly but i see no problem with it.

i do see cocaine and meth being illegal. they should stay that way.

The only reason i see marijuana being illegal is the fact that they have no real way of taxing it. If the US had their own weed crops across the nation, i say they could easily fix the economy with the money they'll make.

Either that or ban ALCOHOL!!! MAKE IT FAIR, BIATCHES!!!! AHAAAAA

I agree that pot should be legal for the simple fact that no man-made chemicals goes into making weed the way it is. Cocaine and dope must have chemicals added to make is street ready for use. But weed, ROLL IT, LIGHT IT and SMOKE THAT S HIT

[Humphrizzle]

well, you dehydrate it, pick it, break it up, roll it up, light and smoke.

then you goooooood.

[tippatone]

at least you dont have to worry about blowing up yor subdivision by f ucking around with all sorts of chems like ether.........

[3.5altman]

^^^ha ha ha

[Spektrewing386]

I agree that pot should be legal for the simple fact that no man-made chemicals goes into making weed the way it is. Cocaine and dope must have chemicals added to make is street ready for use. But weed, ROLL IT, LIGHT IT and SMOKE THAT S HIT


just because something is a product of nature doesnt make it happy dany (not an argument against weed, but an argument that some people believe that natural = good, either it be drugs, skin cream, medicine)

so based on your assumtion that natural stuff is good, would it be ok if you take a handful of Oleander leaves (naturally occuring plant) and make a cream out of it and rub it on your body? expect a trip to the ER. Id love to see someone who believes this "but its natural" **** take a trip to the jungle and see how many things they can touch/consume before they realize how stupid they are.




none of that post was targeted agasint weed, it was simply a statement against the popular notion that anything naturally occuring is safe to use... which is totally ridiculous.

[DieselNuts]

my sister transfered to cocaine and crystal meth from weed, but my family and her friends got her help.




anyway, DRUGS ARE FOR THE WEAK

Well, your sister obviously cant control her self. I have done coke a handful of times and its fun while your doin it, but after its gone, you want more and when you wake up the next day, you feel like ****. Thats why I wont touch it again. And as far as meth goes, that has got to be the most disgusting drug ever. Anyone that would smoke a combination of shiit that can be found under the kitchen sink has mental problems to begin with.

so, is tylenol, ibprofen, and other "drugs" for the weak?


just because something is a product of nature doesnt make it happy dany (not an argument against weed, but an argument that some people believe that natural = good, either it be drugs, skin cream, medicine)

so based on your assumtion that natural stuff is good, would it be ok if you take a handful of Oleander leaves (naturally occuring plant) and make a cream out of it and rub it on your body? expect a trip to the ER. Id love to see someone who believes this "but its natural" **** take a trip to the jungle and see how many things they can touch/consume before they realize how stupid they are.




none of that post was targeted agasint weed, it was simply a statement against the popular notion that anything naturally occuring is safe to use... which is totally ridiculous.

I do, however, agree with you on this point, but pot isnt one of them.

[MistaCee]

I hear Jamaica is considering legalizing MJ

[DecoyOctopus]

i think if they made weed legal it would just make coke the next thing to legalize. eventually itll all be legal and well kill ourselves cuz we cant find anything naughty do busy ourselves with.

[dnugs03rsx]

i highly doubt that..it would probably be shrooms haha do u know how they make coke its pretty ****ed up i dunno if this is the real coke how to list but supposedly they take the cocoa leaves and let them soak in chemicals and dry out in the sun and wat is left is coke ... now that sounds a lot more ****ed up than smoking the buds of a plant at least its not harnessed by adding chemicals like gasoline etc.. its all naturale

[man]

i think if they made weed legal it would just make coke the next thing to legalize. eventually itll all be legal and well kill ourselves cuz we cant find anything naughty do busy ourselves with.

:werd: Marijuana is a buffer zone (when we're talking legality) for heavier drugs

[Dr.G35]

i think it should be legalized, less peeps in jail = more money

[skorch]

i think it should be legalized because once people can buy this stuff legally eventually they'll get bored and go on to the next big thing. but the usa is so jacked up that they cant see the possibilities of the out come of this action. i personally dont smoke pot, so i could careless. :P

[TheProfiteer]

Really really late post. This should of been response #2.

Pot is illegal for the same reasons High Fructose Corn Syrup is in everything we eat, and drink, and that being government subsidiaries.

Corn producers get it, sugar cane producers dont. Thus its cheaper to sweeten everything with a reprocessed product like HFCS.

Pot will compete with lumber, especially in the production of paper.

One Acre of hemp can processed into as much paper as 3 acres of trees, and it does not take up to 5 growing seasons for it to be harvested. It takes only 1 growing season to harvest hemp.

So think about it, if hemp is illegal for commercial consumerism purposes, why would it pot be legal for recreational purposes?

[Im Thinkin RBs]

my sister transfered to cocaine and crystal meth from weed, but my family and her friends got her help.




anyway, DRUGS ARE FOR THE WEAK

lol at the kids smoking pot since age 15 (keitakse), you must be some cool dude.

sarcastic eh ? It's just a herb ...

[Spektrewing386]

It's just a herb ...


you must not have read the other posts about the idots who say "....but its natural". this has nothing to do with my stance on issue, pot, legality; its just annoying how stupid some people can be.....

my question to you is: do you actually think that every natural object is safe?

if you say yes, then you are retarded. parachute into a jungle and try to eat the fruit.

[Blitanicle99]

Ok I started reading and I feel that I must give my opinion.
-I gaurentee weed will be legal in our lifetime. It is ineviable.
For instance, Mitt Romney was for legalizing marijuana. Thats a president canidate.

-If the gov made it legal and taxed it rather than fought it, do you realize how much money we would save?
For Intance, Cops could go after the murders big crime lords and so on, rather than pulling over people for pot.

-Only the people that do smoke, can comprehend the amount of people that do smoke. Once you do smoke, you understand how many things are relating to smoking pot. People, music, movies, art, it goes on for a very long time.
For Instance, those that listen to Dave Matthews. I never listened to Dave before, never really appreciated the music. Well then that changed one night when I "got second hand smoke" from a few people. I could not believe what I was hearing. The gutair, drums, snares, violin was INCREDIBLE. I now love Dave Matthews and listen to it all the time. But it was hidden from me for all these years.

-I find it no different than Alcohol. Yes Alcohol is legal for people above 21. How many people drink that are not 21? Millions. Pot is illegal. How many people burn? Millions upon Millions.

-Yes it would be difficult to tax because alot of people grow it for themselves. Just as people make shine, it is much more convienent to go to the store and buy a handle of Jack Daniels. Just like pot, if someone could just go to the store real quick and grab a sack they would pay for it, for the convienence. Look anywhere in the sales market. Convienence (sp?) sells stuff very easy. You could change your oil for like 14-15 bucks. Or you can go to NTB and get it done for 30 and you dont have to do anything. Same concept.

-Also, government Marijuana is for medical purposes. Anyone who is anyone that has gotten their hands on this knows well, that it is very worth paying for rather than trying to grow something similiar. The THC level in normal marijuana is supposely 5-6% THC. The THC level in medical grade is in the 20 % area.

[Z32redondo]

Ok I started reading and I feel that I must give my opinion.
-I gaurentee weed will be legal in our lifetime. It is ineviable.
For instance, Mitt Romney was for legalizing marijuana. Thats a president canidate.

-If the gov made it legal and taxed it rather than fought it, do you realize how much money we would save?
For Intance, Cops could go after the murders big crime lords and so on, rather than pulling over people for pot.

-Only the people that do smoke, can comprehend the amount of people that do smoke. Once you do smoke, you understand how many things are relating to smoking pot. People, music, movies, art, it goes on for a very long time.
For Instance, those that listen to Dave Matthews. I never listened to Dave before, never really appreciated the music. Well then that changed one night when I "got second hand smoke" from a few people. I could not believe what I was hearing. The gutair, drums, snares, violin was INCREDIBLE. I now love Dave Matthews and listen to it all the time. But it was hidden from me for all these years.

-I find it no different than Alcohol. Yes Alcohol is legal for people above 21. How many people drink that are not 21? Millions. Pot is illegal. How many people burn? Millions upon Millions.

-Yes it would be difficult to tax because alot of people grow it for themselves. Just as people make shine, it is much more convienent to go to the store and buy a handle of Jack Daniels. Just like pot, if someone could just go to the store real quick and grab a sack they would pay for it, for the convienence. Look anywhere in the sales market. Convienence (sp?) sells stuff very easy. You could change your oil for like 14-15 bucks. Or you can go to NTB and get it done for 30 and you dont have to do anything. Same concept.

-Also, government Marijuana is for medical purposes. Anyone who is anyone that has gotten their hands on this knows well, that it is very worth paying for rather than trying to grow something similiar. The THC level in normal marijuana is supposely 5-6% THC. The THC level in medical grade is in the 20 % area.

If pot went legal in my lifetime...:cheers:

[sleeperteg]

Hey man don't drink and drive!!! Smoke and fly !!!!

[man]

i think it should be legalized, less peeps in jail = more money

What makes you think there'll be any less people in jail?

[blacknightteg]

wow this thread is still goin on?

phsycosquirl...the people that were talking about it being natural, being one of them were not talking about it compared to cigarettes....apparently you didnt read the thread completely as you might have noticed that. pot is way more natural compared to any cigarette that is manufactured. pot has no sort of addicting chemicals in it, like nicottene for example. this makes but alot better then something such as cigarettes. i think people would have a lot more commen sense then you apparently think if they were to go into the jungle and started randomly eating ****, come on now. seriously?

[Spektrewing386]

did i ever say anything about ciggerettes? no wait wait wait.......



did i say anything about pot in my speech about natural things? no

the whole last 3 posts or so of mine was purley talking about idiots who think that "natural = good/safe". hell it could have been about lettuce or something.



you fail at reading

[Ran]

i think if they made weed legal it would just make coke the next thing to legalize. eventually itll all be legal and well kill ourselves cuz we cant find anything naughty do busy ourselves with.Agreed.

Keep it illegal, up enforcement and the consequences, and make prison as much of a hell as possible.

[DieselNuts]

What makes you think there'll be any less people in jail?
uhhh.....if it were legal, you wouldnt go to jail for having it in your possesion. Simple as that.


i think if they made weed legal it would just make coke the next thing to legalize. eventually itll all be legal and well kill ourselves cuz we cant find anything naughty do busy ourselves with.



Agreed.

Keep it illegal, up enforcement and the consequences, and make prison as much of a hell as possible.
I couldnt disagree more. Someone being a pothead is COMPLETELY different than someone being a cokehead. The only similarity that coke and weed have is that they are both come from a plant and they are both illegal. The way you act when on each drug is night and day comparison. If you have no experience with either drug, look at it like this: Tony Montana vs. Cheech & Chong. HUGE difference.

How many people have you heard of that overdose on coke? How many people have you heard of overdosing on pot?

As far as "upping the consequences and making prison as much of a hell as possible", what is the point of that? The govt. will spend more money that they dont have to throw people that smoke a harmless* plant in a cage with people that raped and murdered innocent people. The only outcome of that is if the pothead doesnt get killed, he will be a lot worse of a person when he gets out. Ever seen Blow?

*harmless by means of not harming anyone else.

[blacknightteg]

the way that i compare coke and pot is exactly like you said deisel. its like night and day. When i did coke alot for a long time and then started smoking again. i explained it this way:

coke is satans drug....has you goin for a little while makin you feel like its the best thing and then BAM you reach hell cuz you have NO MORE

weed on the other hand is gods....opens up your mind and makes you think about alot of stuff. makes you happy and lasts a hell of alot longer...

[DieselNuts]

the way that i compare coke and pot is exactly like you said deisel. its like night and day. When i did coke alot for a long time and then started smoking again. i explained it this way:

coke is satans drug....has you goin for a little while makin you feel like its the best thing and then BAM you reach hell cuz you have NO MORE

weed on the other hand is gods....opens up your mind and makes you think about alot of stuff. makes you happy and lasts a hell of alot longer...
very true. also, when on coke, you feel like you are capable of doing ANYTHING, which can make you a dangerous person.

One of my favorite things to do was to get baked and listen to some Eminem CDs. His music can be enturpreted so many ways and I never really saw all the different views untill I was high.

[blacknightteg]

very true. also, when on coke, you feel like you are capable of doing ANYTHING, which can make you a dangerous person.

One of my favorite things to do was to get baked and listen to some Eminem CDs. His music can be enturpreted so many ways and I never really saw all the different views untill I was high.


exactly...pot brings a whole no word to a person when high...makes things your around shine in a completely different light.

[DrivenMind]

Pot is illegal because back in the 30's or some ****, some bigot seeking job security, by the name of Henry J Ansliger told the nation that Cannabis "makes black people want to rape white women." The whole reason we know Cannabis as "Marijuana" is because this ******* wanted to play on the prejudices on white people at the time, so he called it by it's mexican name. The head honcho at the time bought this bull**** story, and made it illegal. Shorty there after Henry J Ansliger, was given his own govenment department to manage, today we now know it as the DEA,

There's no legitimate reason for it to be illegal, any more so than alcohol, or cigarettes. End of story.

[Blitanicle99]

I would also like to add that there has never been a recorded death due to marijuana.
And it almost impossible to overdose. You have to smoke I believe its 80 ( I could be wrong on the number I cant remember exactly right now but its something like that) times the amount that it takes you to get high in single sitting to overdose. You would pass out before you got to your 5th round times your normal high.

And Harrison... Cove, boat, Nicks last blunt before boot camp. :yes:

[csmiths]

bc the government is f'ing stupid. especially when you can get a felony for it(as i did and along with that the boot out of college). But i can say from first hand experience that this is no gateway drug if anything is the gateway drug its alcohol. you will do some dumb ass stuff when you are drunk. **** even girls clothes fall off with a bit of alcohol. if they are getting stoned, they just might eat all your food, or take a little nap, but that is about it. from personal experience, you can smoke your brains out and be straight in a little bit. if you drink your ass off, there is a point where you wont be able to see a foot in front of you, let alone put one foot in front of the other. with weed you might have a little trouble keeping your eyes open, but nothing about it in any way should be illegal. i think its just bc of the generation of the govn officials that are in office right now. i think in some years when ppl closer to our generations get into office things will change. well at least i hope. They are a little leanant on the criminal aspects of it tho. any amount of coke, meth or any pill that you have that isnt yours is an automatic felony. at least you can have a certain amount of weed b4 it is a felony, but its not high enough. IMO it should be a pound and over for a felony, but that just my :2cents:

[Turbo04]

bc the government is f'ing stupid. especially when you can get a felony for it(as i did and along with that the boot out of college). But i can say from first hand experience that this is no gateway drug if anything is the gateway drug its alcohol. you will do some dumb ass stuff when you are drunk. **** even girls clothes fall off with a bit of alcohol. if they are getting stoned, they just might eat all your food, or take a little nap, but that is about it. from personal experience, you can smoke your brains out and be straight in a little bit. if you drink your ass off, there is a point where you wont be able to see a foot in front of you, let alone put one foot in front of the other. with weed you might have a little trouble keeping your eyes open, but nothing about it in any way should be illegal. i think its just bc of the generation of the govn officials that are in office right now. i think in some years when ppl closer to our generations get into office things will change. well at least i hope. They are a little leanant on the criminal aspects of it tho. any amount of coke, meth or any pill that you have that isnt yours is an automatic felony. at least you can have a certain amount of weed b4 it is a felony, but its not high enough. IMO it should be a pound and over for a felony, but that just my :2cents:

So you ****ed up and got a felony and kicked outta school for having/doing something illegal and the government is stupid? yeah sure. You think your generation is the first one to enjoy weed? There is a reason that you have to be a certain age to hold any given politcal office. Mainly cause younger people make stupid decisions. Everyone runs around saying "oh if so and so were legal, there would be less crime", who knows maybe there would. But I don't want to risk it on a maybe. Maybe things would be worse. Either way if you need a drug to add some element to your life, it's f'in sad.

[SL65AMG]

Why is marijuana illegal for recreational use? Give me a reason that does not contradict why Alcohol is legal. I dont smoke pot, but i have. i just can't figure out the laws. :screwy:

its a money-making scheme for the law emforcement. it doesnt matter wheter or not its not harmful.... its just used as a tool and excuse to rip off the people and make $$$
i bailed my friend out of jail and his gf in eatonton(bumble****) for smoking and thats the end of it. no court, no record, nothing, they just wanted their money and thats it.

[csmiths]

So you ****ed up and got a felony and kicked outta school for having/doing something illegal and the government is stupid? yeah sure. You think your generation is the first one to enjoy weed? There is a reason that you have to be a certain age to hold any given politcal office. Mainly cause younger people make stupid decisions. Everyone runs around saying "oh if so and so were legal, there would be less crime", who knows maybe there would. But I don't want to risk it on a maybe. Maybe things would be worse. Either way if you need a drug to add some element to your life, it's f'in sad.

your so right. you feel a little better now. maybe you should go burn one :goodjob:, im just messing with you, but just so you know it turned out to be a good thing, bc i realized how much i took for granted. and just the arrest sobered me up, for almost 2 years now. i just dont think you should jump to conclusions about ppl, "if you need a drug to add some element in your life, its f'in sad". say that to someone who is an addict. i just dont think that it should be illegal. i think alcohol should. alot less deaths, especially in cars, and alot less violence period. but that is just my opinion. so take that however you want.

[BLk92DA]

the government/state needs weed to keep funds and the economy going.
tobacco company is helping keep weed illlegal...errone would quit smoking and convert to weedhabilitation.
errone in the hood doesnt want weed to be legalized, we cant eat if it is.
theres so much more...

[Turbo04]

your so right. you feel a little better now. maybe you should go burn one :goodjob:, im just messing with you, but just so you know it turned out to be a good thing, bc i realized how much i took for granted. and just the arrest sobered me up, for almost 2 years now. i just dont think you should jump to conclusions about ppl, "if you need a drug to add some element in your life, its f'in sad". say that to someone who is an addict. i just dont think that it should be illegal. i think alcohol should. alot less deaths, especially in cars, and alot less violence period. but that is just my opinion. so take that however you want.


I wasn't saying you were the one who needed a drug to make your life better, more of a generalization. I suppose I could've made it a bit more clear on who I was talking about. Your original post made it seem (at least to me) that you were blaming the government and school for your f up. If that was not the case I'm sorry for the mix up. If you learned something outta it, then you are better then 9/10ths of the ppl who get busted for it.

[RUFFIAN]

Because the Govt. can't tax something that you can grow in your house.:rolleyes:

[ahmonrah]

wiid= illegal, "addictive" a "gateway drug"

sex= legal, "addictive" a "gateway experience"

i think they should make sex illegal too....it causes a feelgood experience, like wiid, makes people do crazy things to get it and for those that master it's usage "the grind"....gets people knocking at their doors at all hours of the day and night!

[STI101]

The laws suck. We need to revolt and rise up and kick some ass. Then spark a blunt. JK I dont smoke but I used to and there is nothing wrong with token.

[blackDAHLIA]

legalize it!

weeds not a gateway drug nor addictive. i am proof.

[csmiths]

I wasn't saying you were the one who needed a drug to make your life better, more of a generalization. I suppose I could've made it a bit more clear on who I was talking about. Your original post made it seem (at least to me) that you were blaming the government and school for your f up. If that was not the case I'm sorry for the mix up. If you learned something outta it, then you are better then 9/10ths of the ppl who get busted for it.


Well when you go a university to play hockey for them and when you get the boot they win nationals, that will wake you up a little. Especially seeing all of them with there huge ass rings that they have on all the the time knowing that you should have one as well, then I don't know what would. Oh and a felony helped with that as well. But yea I know ppl that have been arrested a bunch of times and never change

[low mileage]

mj is a gateway drug. i know from seeing close family members go through rehab several times. i really dont think that most people who do harder drugs starts with those drugs. now while many people can smoke pot and be just fine, alot of people arent. its not the same as cigarettes, because cigarettes cause no major harmful mental defects, while pot kills alot of brain cells. i agree that alcohol is ALOT worse than pot, because i cant remember the last time i heard about a middle aged guy getting stoned and beating his family. pot is also more likely to produce less productive and less motivated people in my experiences. i dont smoke and i dont drink (often) and i wouldnt mind seeing them both outlawed.

just my .02.

btw, all of what ive said is based on my personal observations.

ok for starters anything that isnt good for your body is bad not just mj, cigs, and beer, lets see sugar, salt, pepper, to much citrid acid, gas, perfume, tattoos, certain air in certain areas, most water, plants, fast food, lip gloss, chapstick, the world wide web, congress, the president, people with stds, and certain animals to certain people. but they arent illegal to have or own or use and take. but give the government time they will be illegal too.

[Malice]

wiid= illegal, "addictive" a "gateway drug"

sex= legal, "addictive" a "gateway experience"

i think they should make sex illegal too....it causes a feelgood experience, like wiid, makes people do crazy things to get it and for those that master it's usage "the grind"....gets people knocking at their doors at all hours of the day and night!
it sounds like you're comparing two totally different things here man. marijuana isnt addictive unless you let the drug control your body and use it in a way that'll cause you to think as a get away solution. i used to smoke back when i was a teen and never once got addictive, and i used to smoke atleast 5 times a week and this was going on for a good year and a half. im not proud of that but that to me shows that marijuana isn't addictive unless you allow it to take over you.

[DrivenMind]

The fact of the matter is there is not a single piece of legitimate evidence that can prove cannabis as dangerous, and addictive substance; simply because it is not. Cannabis has been known by humans for its medicinal properties for thousands of years now; only recently, in the past seventy years or so, have we started making our own citizens prisoners due to mostly non-violent drug offenses.

The vast majority of the people who try to liken something as benign as cannabis, to something like cocaine usually have little idea as to what they're talking about. The drugs are very different, unrelated, and have drastically different effects on the central nervous system.

[Turbo04]

The fact of the matter is there is not a single piece of legitimate evidence that can prove cannabis as dangerous, and addictive substance; simply because it is not. Cannabis has been known by humans for its medicinal properties for thousands of years now; only recently, in the past seventy years or so, have we started making our own citizens prisoners due to mostly non-violent drug offenses.

The vast majority of the people who try to liken something as benign as cannabis, to something like cocaine usually have little idea as to what they're talking about. The drugs are very different, unrelated, and have drastically different effects on the central nervous system.


Thats the key right there. It's an offense....hence you get put in jail. Ask all the coke heads and ppl who've done hard drugs what was the first drug they began using? I'm pretty damn sure the majority of em will tell ya MJ was the first. Hence gateway drug. No it doesn't make you go out and do harder stuff...and it very well may not be addictive ( although with the number of ppl so far I've seen on here saying it's nothing a damn good case could be made that it is) but most ppl who are druggies don't go from sipping pepsi to cooking the rock in one leap. They started small with something "harmless and non addictive" guess what that might be?

And to all the people saying it's just cause the gov' makes moola off arresting people and ****...guess what? If you were smart enough to NOT do it...they wouldn't be making money off you would they? You want it to be legal? By all means take your ass to amsterdam if it means that much to you. But until then quit crying about the govenment making money of the people who get caught with it. The only ones to blame for that is the people doing it. Can't do the time, don't do the crime :)