Is it a spoiler or a wing?

[DieselNuts]

What do you call it and why?

I am sick of people calling SPOILERs "wings". The only reason I can even begin to see is that it is easier and quicker to say. IMO, that is no reason to call a spoiler something it is not...

[speedminded]

umm...do you have any idea what the difference between a spoiler and a wing are or which each one does? How about the difference between a splitter and a diffuser?

[DieselNuts]

umm...do you have any idea what the difference between a spoiler and a wing are or which each one does? How about the difference between a splitter and a diffuser?
uuuhhh....yeah. why do you think i said i am sick of people calling spoilers wings? spoilers create down force, wings create lift. you do not want lift on your car... and yes, I do know the difference.

[speedminded]

uuuhhh....yeah. why do you think i said i am sick of people calling spoilers wings? spoilers create down force, wings create lift. you do not want lift on your car... and yes, I do know the difference.So the wing on an Indy car creates lift?

Allow me to help you... http://www.nas.nasa.gov/About/Education/Racecar/

[EJ25RUN]

umm...do you have any idea what the difference between a spoiler and a wing are or which each one does? How about the difference between a splitter and a diffuser?

Steve Matchett knows the right answer....wish i could contact him bout though :(

[DieselNuts]

alright, well you got me there, but that is the first time I have ever heard the term "wing" used on an automobile.

[speedminded]

alright, well you got me there, but that is the first time I have ever heard the term "wing" used on an automobile.Nascar used to have spoilers, now they have wings.

[Kevykev]

i say spoiler.


Just like a wheel and a rim.

Of course you can get technical but i'd be damn if i get technical about this topic :D

[speedminded]

[Normally but not always] The air goes above and below a wing, on spoiler the air only goes over the top. That makes sense?

[man]

uuuhhh....yeah. why do you think i said i am sick of people calling spoilers wings? spoilers create down force, wings create lift. you do not want lift on your car... and yes, I do know the difference.

A car's wings do create lift in a sense, it just happens to be negative lift

[speedminded]

An car's wings do create lift in a sense, it just happens to be negative liftlololol touche! Up to 3,000lbs of negative lift depending on the application :D

[DieselNuts]

[Normally] The air goes above and below a wing, on spoiler the air only goes over the top. That makes sense?
That does make sense. I figured that one out when you mentioned nascar. But even though air flows below the spoiler on a car, you dont really want it to, right? Thats why they are angled the way that they are to force the car to the ground.

[speedminded]

That does make sense. I figured that one out when you mentioned nascar. But even though air flows below the spoiler on a car, you dont really want it to, right? Thats why they are angled the way that they are to force the car to the ground.Turbulance is created when a blunt object cuts through the air, like mini tornado's...if you look at a wing in a wind tunnel you'll see that it smooths out the turbulance and reduces the cars drag. The top part of the wing is what creates the downforce.

[Dirty Octopus™]

Gee! thanks for this thread! :goodjob:
cuz i sho nuff aint know the difference tween the two! :(

prally cuz i never cared about putting one on my FF vehicle to have to do any research :thinking:

[speedminded]

Gee! thanks for this thread! :goodjob:
cuz i sho nuff aint know the difference tween the two! :(

prally cuz i never cared about putting one on my FF vehicle to have to do any research :thinking:If you don't need a wing on a FF then you aren't driving it hard enough ;)

...but for a FF street car driven like a street car it's not needed.

[man]

If you don't need a wing on a FF then you aren't driving it hard enough ;)

...but for a FF strictly street car it's not needed.

Yup, not that you should be on the streets.

EDIT: DAmmit didn't see the bottom line, wtf?

[speedminded]

Yup, not that you should be on the streets.lol, edited :tongue:

[man]

lol, edited :tongue:

Bah, you and your editing.

[Nissan Sean]

i call it both, whatevr i feel like.

[Ran]

BS aside, this has been a very informative thread. Reps to the contributing posters.

[IDCoconut]

Wing

http://www.m-99.co.uk/Car_Bodykits/Mitsubishi_Lancer_Evo_5/evo_v_rear.jpg

Spoiler

http://www.peb951.net/images/por951kerscher.jpg

[man]

Wing

http://www.m-99.co.uk/Car_Bodykits/Mitsubishi_Lancer_Evo_5/evo_v_rear.jpg

Spoiler

http://www.peb951.net/images/por951kerscher.jpg

Yup, pretty much.

[Crazy Asian]

duh. Even a mexican can answer this question.

[matthewAPM]

a wing has air flowing above and below it, a spoiler has air just above it

[SixSquared]

I've always called a spoiler something that is attached to the car completely and a wing something that has a few inches (or more, ugh) between it and the car. :shrug:

[redrumracer]

wings split the air in 2. a spoiler just pushes air and doesnt split.

[SixSquared]

what about spoilers that have a little gap, so technically they're splitting air? (I'm talking about a mugen del Sol spoiler specifically.. and also just being plain difficult lol)

http://www.teamdelsol.com/technical/bodykits/wshp_mugen-rear-spoiler.jpg

[redrumracer]

what about spoilers that have a little gap, so technically they're splitting air? (I'm talking about a mugen del Sol spoiler specifically.. and also just being plain difficult lol)

http://www.teamdelsol.com/technical/bodykits/wshp_mugen-rear-spoiler.jpg


wing

[Ricer]

from what i've always been told.. wings have an airfoil shape creating lift in some way (positive or negative)... spoilers just disrupt the flow of air as speedminded said without really creating any kinda "lift"

[man]

a spoiler has air just above it

Or only below it...

[Dirty Octopus™]

If you don't need a wing on a FF then you aren't driving it hard enough ;)

...but for a FF street car driven like a street car it's not needed.
well i drive it. but i just dont drive it like im speedminded.
specially since i dont have a DD. i just feel safe not driving it too hard ;)

[chinitoxamor]

my opinion.. "wing" and "spoiler" are synonym because its the same sh.it.. either its bigger or smallers.. nice or riced

[chituntang]

From dictionary.com

Automotive. a similar device for changing the airflow past a moving vehicle, often having the form of a transverse fin or blade mounted at the front or rear to reduce lift and increase traction at high speeds.

So, anything on the front or the rear of the car (lips, splitters, diffusers, "wings." etc are all spoilers.

[DieselNuts]

From dictionary.com

Automotive. a similar device for changing the airflow past a moving vehicle, often having the form of a transverse fin or blade mounted at the front or rear to reduce lift and increase traction at high speeds.

So, anything on the front or the rear of the car (lips, splitters, diffusers, "wings." etc are all spoilers.
See, thats what I thought untill SpeedMinded dropped this knowledge one me:


http://www.nas.nasa.gov/About/Education/Racecar/
Even thought it the info comes from a reputible source, I still dont like calling it a wing. Reminds me too much of F&F. Just like people that say N.O.S. like its an actual word and say naws....ugh, thats such a pet peave of mine...


BS aside, this has been a very informative thread. Reps to the contributing posters.
Very true. Even though I have been proven wrong, I have learned something new today.

[chituntang]

You know what's the first thing I find wrong with them?? There is a flying car on the page where you linked. There is no form of road racing that is benefit from flying.

Go to any auto maker page and see if they name the rear spoiler "wing..."

[speedminded]

You know what's the first thing I find wrong with them?? There is a flying car on the page where you linked. There is no form of road racing that is benefit from flying.

Go to any auto maker page and see if they name the rear spoiler "wing..."Go to any auto maker page and find me a TRACK CAR ;)

[man]

You know what's the first thing I find wrong with them?? There is a flying car on the page where you linked. There is no form of road racing that is benefit from flying.

Go to any auto maker page and see if they name the rear spoiler "wing..."

How's Porsche for you? (BTW, I did not search hard for this, this was the first website I looked at)

"At the rear of the car, the integrated WING is combined with an underbody diffuser featuring vertical fins. The resulting tail section generates ground-effects downforce with only minimal additional drag."


http://www.porsche.com/english/int/carreragt/modelinformation/design/default.htm

[redpanda]

swing

[speedminded]

How's Porsche for you? (BTW, I did not search hard for this, this was the first website I looked at)

"At the rear of the car, the integrated WING is combined with an underbody diffuser featuring vertical fins. The resulting tail section generates ground-effects downforce with only minimal additional drag."


http://www.porsche.com/english/int/carreragt/modelinformation/design/default.htmBingo! Was waiting for someone to mention Porsche :tongue:

[ATK_Designs]

wings split the air in 2. a spoiler just pushes air and doesnt split.

This man speaks the truth. :goodjob:

[man]

Bingo! Was waiting for someone to mention Porsche :tongue:

Grew up around them, gotta bring it to the table.

[speedminded]

Grew up around them, gotta bring it to the table.Don't know what you would classify a whale tale, guess a spoiler since air only goes over the top :dunno:

I'm looking for this particular wing with the Gurney flap for my project car... $1,500 for the replica new :eek:

https://store.nexternal.com/vacmotors/images/BMW-RS-E3-L.JPG

[AnthonyF]

Don't know what you would classify a whale tale, guess a spoiler since air only goes over the top :dunno:

I'm looking for this particular wing with the Gurney flap for my project car... $1,500 for the replica new :eek:

https://store.nexternal.com/vacmotors/images/BMW-RS-E3-L.JPG
that is a wing. Looks nice too! spoilers are not functional. mainly cosmetic from the factory.

[KidSaru]

that is a wing. Looks nice too! spoilers are not functional. mainly cosmetic from the factory.

Spoilers can be functional.

[Ran]

that is a wing. Looks nice too! spoilers are not functional. mainly cosmetic from the factory.Spoilers are functional. Take a look at the rear spoilers used for NASCAR before they switched to the new models.

[K20Z1]

wats a dc5 itr wing do? =\

[Arm&hammer]

i say spoiler unless i see an airplane, then i would say wing. lol

[RWD164]

Here is the major difference, Wing allows the air to travel both over and under, while a spoiler is attached to the "Trunk Deck" and air can only pass over top.

Formula 1 Car=Wing
Monte Carlo SS=Spolier

[SiLkY_JohnSon]

Yea i think Spoiler refers to a Car that comes with it stock and a wing Is some Rice Baskets Use for Performance

[slostang]

in most cases its usually called rice!

silly ricers, wings are for airplanes!
:cheers:

[YokotaS13]

if you honestly think that, your dumb

[EJ25RUN]

in most cases its usually called rice!

silly ricers, wings are for airplanes!
:cheers:

your becoming the stupidest person on this site. :cheers: