Ok..Who all has seen the "1993" R33 GTS at Nissan Gwinnett for $23,000 :~O ROFL

[EJ25RUN]

So i was driving down pleasant hill earlier and saw a black r33 GTS sitting in their used lot. With nothing better to do i decided to have a look.

I walked over to it and * :thinking: * hmm prolly............. $25,000 they want?


Now as i went over it i saw that it had the rb25 and whatnot......

i was then approached by a salesman man who said it was

1. $23,000... :lmfao:
2. A 1993... :thinking:

Now im sure the r33 was released in 1995 and i dont know if obd2 was something done in japan but it sure looked as though the car had a evap canister which i think is something obdII cars come with.....correct me if im wrong!

EDIT... Wikipedia (i know not great source :tongue1: ) says production began Aug 1993 but it still says sold 95-98!

I looked at the vin badge which looked like this

This is a nissan vin found on google images! Its not the one on skyline! It's just there for reverence
http://garage.projectraine.com/content_guides/240_vinmid/page_0201.jpg

Heres some questions i got bout the vin

what is the actual vin for a japan car? ~ Firewall said ECR33- and five numbers. (i know E = rb25, C = 4ws r33 = duh)

what is a model number?

and where can you tell the vehicle year? ~ cause no way its a 1993!

[RandomGuy]

thats a 240sx vin smart guy i didnt even have to look it up

vin swap

[RandomGuy]

ka24de skyline?, lirl


btw thats like a federal offense you should say gimme the car for 5k or i turn you in to the feds blahah

[Thighs]

lolol...

do you not see where it says S14?

[RandomGuy]

So i was driving down pleasant hill earlier and saw a black r33 GTS sitting in their used lot. With nothing better to do i decided to have a look.

I walked over to it and * :thinking: * hmm prolly............. $25,000 they want?

Now as i went over it i saw that it had the rb25 and whatnot......

i was then approached by a salesman man who said it was

1. $23,000... :lmfao:
2. A 1993... :thinking:

Now im sure the r33 was released in 1995 and i dont know if obd2 was something done in japan but it sure looked as though the car had a evap canister which i think is something obdII cars come with.....correct me if im wrong!

I looked at the vin badge which looked like this

Not the one on skyline just for reverence

http://garage.projectraine.com/content_guides/240_vinmid/page_0201.jpg

Heres some questions i got bout the vin

what is the actual vin for a japan car? ~ Firewall said ECR33- and five numbers. (i know E = rb25, C = 4ws r33 = duh)

what is a model number?

and where can you tell the vehicle year? ~ cause no way its a 1993!
ewps my skimming skills suck lol

didn't read where you said it was for "REVERENCE"

[EJ25RUN]

ewps my skimming skills suck lol

didn't read where you said it was for "REVERENCE"

just for you...ill make it bigger


lolol...

do you not see where it says S14?

You suck at life!

[Thighs]

MY BAD lol

well what the hell did you post that one for anyways? vin plates here and vin plates in jap arent the same.

[EJ25RUN]

MY BAD lol

well what the hell did you post that one for anyways? vin plates here and vin plates in jap arent the same.

i want to see where you can tell the year of the car and that one pic is all i could find.

i know usa vins are 17 symbols long....but i was wondering

1. what is a Vin for a japan car look like.
2. What is a "model number" on a nissan vin badge

the skyline had a proper japan vin badge that looks exactly like the 240 one i posted

[RandomGuy]

you do know that production date and year model are two completely different things right?

my 83 year starion, was made in aug of 82

and my 1987 starion says manufactured in +++, japan 1986

[WhiteAccord]

Interesting.... I should go up there and get me a skyline... For free or ill just turn them in... LOL unless the 93 R33 came with a ka24...

[EJ25RUN]

you do know that production date and year model are two completely different things right?

my 83 year starion, was made in aug of 82

and my 1987 starion says manufactured in +++, japan 1986





EDIT... Wikipedia (i know not great source :tongue1: ) says production began Aug 1993 but it still says sold 95-98!


yes i do as you can see i put in post #1. :yes:

but... a production and sell year are different..... that why your 87 starion is a 87 starion...... ive read to believe that the first "sell year" of r33s was 1995

[EJ25RUN]

.. LOL unless the 93 R33 came with a ka24...

Are yall not capable of reading big font thats in bold?

[redrumracer]

you do know that production date and year model are two completely different things right?

my 83 year starion, was made in aug of 82

and my 1987 starion says manufactured in +++, japan 1986


just like my 99 miata was made in 2000 :thinking: yea im still trying to fig that out

[Doppelgänger]

NEWSFLASH

Most the cars brought in were by Motorex. Motorex got busted for doing this. All cars they registered and applied for a VIN were all classified as R32 skylines. So you bought a new R34?? Well Motorex wasn't allowed to sell cars 95 or later. What did they do? They claimed everything as a R32 and gave it a older production date.

There is no such thing as a "Japanese VIN" They don't use VIN numbers for JDM cars. They all get serial numbers. Japanese serial numbers are NOTHING like a US VIN. All Skylines brought through Motorex had special assigned VINs.

Now if it truely had a VIN plate, then it was fraudulently aquired.

If you really want to know (in case i missed something), contact Tripper at Cool Cat Racing, he can tell you EVERYTHING.

[Ruiner]

GTS? Uggg...

No GTR, no care. Seriously. If you are going to spend the money, get a converted GTR. Anything less is a waste in my opinion...

[Alan®]

I have seen it I have pictures but they are at my house. I went by there and looked at it on saturday they wanted 27k and they said it was AWD. I disputed it with him and the guy told me I was an idiot

[chinitoxamor]

Interesting.... I should go up there and get me a skyline... For free or ill just turn them in... LOL unless the 93 R33 came with a ka24...


we should all go up there and get a new car or we can rat them out lol

[Ruiner]

I have seen it I have pictures but they are at my house. I went by there and looked at it on saturday they wanted 27k and they said it was AWD. I disputed it with him and the guy told me I was an idiot

Well, they DID make some AWD GTS's...

However, I still stand by my statement: No GTR, no care. :)

My buddy had a '94 R32 GTR (one of the first in the US back then). It was nice I guess, but it lacked in looks.

[Alan®]

Well, they DID make some AWD GTS's...

However, I still stand by my statement: No GTR, no care. :)

My buddy had a '94 R32 GTR (one of the first in the US back then). It was nice I guess, but it lacked in looks.
yea but this one wasn't it had no axles going to the front wheels

[EJ25RUN]

Well, they DID make some AWD GTS's...

However, I still stand by my statement: No GTR, no care. :)

My buddy had a '94 R32 GTR (one of the first in the US back then). It was nice I guess, but it lacked in looks.

ECR33 = RB25, 4 Wheel steering, R33

it would have to be ECNR33 for it to have AWD....

Ruiner... i agree 100% on the "Has to be GTR"... im just tryin to figure if what the Gwinnett Nissan is doing is legal. I just dont think there is a way that car is a 93 unless whoever traded it in lyied to them about it.

Oh ..... i got the salesman to say what the dealer paid for it :ninja:

[Alan®]

ECR33 = RB25, 4 Wheel steering, R33

it would have to be ECNR33 for it to have AWD....

Ruiner... i agree 100% on the "Has to be GTR"... im just tryin to figure if what the Gwinnett Nissan is doing is legal. I just dont think there is a way that car is a 93 unless whoever traded it in lyied to them about it.

Oh ..... i got the salesman to say what the dealer paid for it :ninja:
Probably not much the owner traded it in on a Z

[EJ25RUN]

NEWSFLASH

Most the cars brought in were by Motorex. Motorex got busted for doing this. All cars they registered and applied for a VIN were all classified as R32 skylines. So you bought a new R34?? Well Motorex wasn't allowed to sell cars 95 or later. What did they do? They claimed everything as a R32 and gave it a older production date.

There is no such thing as a "Japanese VIN" They don't use VIN numbers for JDM cars. They all get serial numbers. Japanese serial numbers are NOTHING like a US VIN. All Skylines brought through Motorex had special assigned VINs.

Now if it truely had a VIN plate, then it was fraudulently aquired.

If you really want to know (in case i missed something), contact Tripper at Cool Cat Racing, he can tell you EVERYTHING.

read this

http://tyndago.googlepages.com/motorexstory

and this

http://thenittygrittyfiles.org/hirofiles/

[EJ25RUN]

Probably not much the owner traded it in on a Z

no not compared to what they want for it....

i think you said earlier the salesman said $27,000 is what they want for the car?

Haha divide that by half :yes:

[Alan®]

no not compared to what they want for it....

i think you said earlier the salesman said $27,000 is what they want for the car?

Haha divide that by half :yes:
$13,500? LOL I'll go offer them 15k for it just to see what happens.

[EJ25RUN]

$13,500? LOL I'll go offer them 15k for it just to see what happens.

ok close $13,500 minus $500...

Now thats what the salesman said idk if thats the real #

but at a dealer like that word prolly travels fast about a car like that so got some credit behind it.

[Alan®]

ok close $13,500 minus $500...

Now thats what the salesman said idk if thats the real #

but at a dealer like that word prolly travels fast about a car like that so got some credit behind it.
I wouldn't spend money on that car man are you kidding me. I could buy it and sell it for a profit sure but I'm not the type of person to do that. If I'm going to buy a car I buy it cause I actually want it to keep mod and drive balls out.

[EJ25RUN]

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all these people looking and no has opinion? :???:

[JITB]

myopinionis, if they werent so selfish and bad business men, they would be millionaires by now.. especially with the jdm madness goin on today.

[EJ25RUN]

I wouldn't spend money on that car man are you kidding me. I could buy it and sell it for a profit sure but I'm not the type of person to do that. If I'm going to buy a car I buy it cause I actually want it to keep mod and drive balls out.


wait wait.. this thread has the joke factor.. i know no one on IA wants it ( i hope ;))

but still back to what im tryin to figure from earlier..... is it a 93 or not?

[Elbow]

Way too much asking price.

[Alan®]

wait wait.. this thread has the joke factor.. i know no one on IA wants it ( i hope ;))

but still back to what im tryin to figure from earlier..... is it a 93 or not?
Only one way to find out. The car has to leave a paper trail of some type.

[EJ25RUN]

Only one way to find out. The car has to leave a paper trail of some type.

i should ask to see the title!

[turbosx©]

its prob not legal.

[BuBBa DRiFT]

jdm cars dont have vins they have serial numbers noob

take the car

give it 240sx vins, and tell everyone its a widebody rhd converted 240 coupe. lots of diy work.

[BuBBa DRiFT]

and how the **** did my photobucket sig get exceeded goddammit

[turbosx©]

jdm cars dont have vins they have serial numbers noob

take the car

give it 240sx vins, and tell everyone its a widebody rhd converted 240 coupe. lots of diy work.


your the noob this has alread been established.

second part is just stupid

[osiriskidd]

gtr34 or bust.

anyways i was reading that article.

"enhanced with high-performance engines and spoilers to go faster" made me lirl

[EJ25RUN]

gtr34 or bust.





ahh no!

BNR34

[EJ25RUN]

jdm cars dont have vins they have serial numbers noob

take the car

give it 240sx vins, and tell everyone its a widebody rhd converted 240 coupe. lots of diy work.

OMG, did you just call me a noob? *thinks bout this*

all i gots to say is

"you dont know me son"

[BuBBa DRiFT]

legal skylines ftw

if only this were legal :no:

[Elbow]

Skylines suck

[EJ25RUN]

were up to 41 posts and only like 6 or 7 are relevant to original topic



WTF GUYS!

[On_Her_Face]

going to pick it up tomorrow, got a good deal, my neighbor is part ownerof Gwinnett Place Ford (my work) and Gwinnett Place Nissan.

[Alan®]

going to pick it up tomorrow, got a good deal, my neighbor is part ownerof Gwinnett Place Ford (my work) and Gwinnett Place Nissan.
I call BS

[Batlground]

Well, they DID make some AWD GTS's...

However, I still stand by my statement: No GTR, no care. :)

My buddy had a '94 R32 GTR (one of the first in the US back then). It was nice I guess, but it lacked in looks.

R32s look just like S13 silvias IMO. The only way they look good is hammered on big wheels with a body kit.

and yes, they are worthless if they arent GTRs.

[On_Her_Face]

I call BS

once you get off the phone with BS why don't you call Nissan and ask them about the skyline?

[nsany(atl)]

It's a GTS-t , they started production in'93 for the R33 GTS's but made the R32 GTr until '94 with the V-Spec II. It has a RB25 in it, the vin plate shown is not on the car, it is a "State" legal car, not a Motorex car. It is "Legal" depending on how "grey" your interpratation of the law is. GPN is an idiot for trying to sell it, b/c if someone wrecks it they will be sued for selling a non federal car. The whole car has been repainted

[AnthonyF]

pwnage, imma go buy it and put skyline GTR emblems all over it.

[CHADbee]

the previous owner traded it in for a orange 350Z...the new uglyass orange sherbert color. :sicks:

[1000cckiller]

the previous owner traded it in for a orange 350Z...the new uglyass orange sherbert color. :sicks:that ****s so gay.

[EJ25RUN]

It's a GTS-t , they started production in'93 for the R33 GTS's but made the R32 GTr until '94 with the V-Spec II. It has a RB25 in it, the vin plate shown is not on the car, it is a "State" legal car, not a Motorex car. It is "Legal" depending on how "grey" your interpratation of the law is. GPN is an idiot for trying to sell it, b/c if someone wrecks it they will be sued for selling a non federal car. The whole car has been repainted

so the usa gov allows you to title a car on its production year and not its actual sale year?

[nsany(atl)]

so the usa gov allows you to title a car on its production year and not its actual sale year?

was probably built in ''92 sold as "93

[Echonova]

once you get off the phone with BS why don't you call Nissan and ask them about the skyline?I just called, it's was still for sale but they're gonna hold it for me until I can run to the bank later today.

[BLK JDM]

Still no pics!!

[Elbow]

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/car/552233048.html

Is that it?

[Echonova]

LOL, that's it.

[EJ25RUN]

was probably built in ''92 sold as "93

if you read entire post we've established cars were started production aug 93 for 95 model year.

My question was will USA gov let you title car under that possible 93 production year.

+ did japan have obdi obdii or was that just a usa thing?

[fivex684]

R33 GTS's were built in 93 and 94. The car would be titled here as the year it was built. The R32 GTR was the GTR for years 93 and 94 the R33 GTR started in 95.

Titling the car is not a problem in a red neck state like this. I could go down to the tag office with a matchbox car and get title. It's getting legal on the federal level that is not going to happen, it's the emissions (passing local is not like federal) and crash test stuff thats the problem.

That car is more than likely not legal. I don't know anyone who federalized a GTS or GTS-T.

Japan doesn't have OBD at all,that is the problem with legalizing these cars. They made the law to were the Skylines have to be 96+ to be imported. This is so they would be required to have OBD_II, which isn't going to happen any time soon.

[EJ25RUN]

R33 GTS's were built in 93 and 94. The car would be titled here as the year it was built. The R32 GTR was the GTR for years 93 and 94 the R33 GTR started in 95.

Titling the car is not a problem in a red neck state like this. I could go down to the tag office with a matchbox car and get title. It's getting legal on the federal level that is not going to happen, it's the emissions (passing local is not like federal) and crash test stuff thats the problem.

That car is more than likely not legal. I don't know anyone who federalized a GTS or GTS-T.

Japan doesn't have OBD at all,that is the problem with legalizing these cars. They made the law to were the Skylines have to be 96+ to be imported. This is so they would be required to have OBD_II, which isn't going to happen any time soon.

It appears you are right about the r33 gts models being made in 93 and 94! I guess because i thought the gtr was a 95 i assumed entire line was.

[Elbow]

LOL, that's it.

Are you really gonna get it?

[Echonova]

No.