Obama wins GA

[Slow Motion]

Discuss...

[TheGrillMan]

but he hasnt won yet

[Tracy]

I thought it said it was a tie (3 way) or too close to call. I am watching the news and typing, maybe I heard wrong.

[Hulud]

I thought it said it was a tie (3 way) or too close to call. I am watching the news and typing, maybe I heard wrong.
thats the elephants, not the asses

[ueyedgr8tness]

Obama ftw!!

[Hulud]

Obama ftw!!
werd

[Kamikaze]

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[Tracy]

thats the elephants, not the assesOh that makes sense. My bad :D

[Kevykev]

http://i18.tinypic.com/8br0p6o.gif

Ahh Hail nah!!!

[Tracy]

http://i18.tinypic.com/8br0p6o.gifOh schnap! Is that the solja boy smiley???!!!

[Hulud]

Oh that makes sense. My bad :D
this is why there should be no 19th amendment































































i keed i keed :D

[1SOL2NV]

there wasn't any good to elect this year nor has been ... bush was a BIG FAIL .... didnt see a point on voting this year cuz hilary wants to raise taxes for poor people to have **** which is only gonna hurt the economy ... and **** it .... nvm fuc politics ....

[bigdare23]

:eek:

[ChnkyLao]

there wasn't any good to elect this year nor has been ... bush was a BIG FAIL .... didnt see a point on voting this year cuz hilary wants to raise taxes for poor people to have **** which is only gonna hurt the economy ... and **** it .... nvm fuc politics ....

free health care is a good idea. but how we get free health care might end up turning the united states into canada :tongue1:

[silverEJ8]

GO... MIKE HUCKABEE!
We do not need a democrat president

[amberghini]

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[bigdare23]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/amberghini/rapemy4copy.jpg



:lmfao:

[Kamikaze]

GO... MIKE HUCKABEE!
We do not need a democrat president

Yeah because the Republicans have sure done a bang up job over the last 8 years.

[tony]

Still a lot of states to go.. obviously if you see how I am about Obama I support him so I'm happy about the results. Hillary has won Arkansas and Oklahoma thus far tonight.

[tony]

Yeah because the Republicans have sure done a bang up job over the last 8 years.


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Kamikaze again.

[Slow Motion]

Tell me this Do you want a president who is gonna cry all the time. Not trying to be critical but Hilary has cried twice on TV over nothing. So if something happens to america she gonna be on TV crying and making everyone else in america panic. Its ok to be sensitive but as president there is no room for it, at least whilst in the public eye.

[Thundercat]

YEA my Vote counts

[carbon_crash]

Obama ftw!!

you mean : O-Bomb-ya!! LOL!!

And about if free health care is brought into play, it will take months or years to see a doctor about any medical condition. Canada is a good example of what free health care does for the population. This election is a hard one to call. Just my:2cents:

[tony]

you mean : O-Bomb-ya!! LOL!!

And about if free health care is brought into play, it will take months or years to see a doctor about any medical condition. Canada is a good example of what free health care does for the population. This election is a hard one to call. Just my:2cents:

Ever been to Canada? Just curious

[Hulud]

you mean : O-Bomb-ya!! LOL!!

And about if free health care is brought into play, it will take months or years to see a doctor about any medical condition. Canada is a good example of what free health care does for the population. This election is a hard one to call. Just my:2cents:
funny you say that cause you couldnt be more wrong

the U.S. ranks DEAD F*CKING last in industrialized countries healthcare.

do some research before you post, you won't look as ignorant.

edit: heres the quote "United States dead last, in providing timely and effective healthcare to its citizens"

[Jimmy B]

i just hope ANY of the republicans make it in office..

[The Yousef]

If a Republican takes office again...i'm moving to Canada...or the UK....

Obama ftw.

[Jimmy B]

i dont want a PMS'n president, or a muslim that is only popular because of his race..

jsut my 2cents

[Jecht]

Yay

I'm sick of people calling him a terrorist though.

[bigdare23]

i dont want a PMS'n president, or a muslim that is only popular because of his race..

jsut my 2cents


Please


http://www.uranther.com/funnypics/stfu.jpg


Damn chumps posting up false info

[Jimmy B]

dude, he was BORN a muslim, and the only reason he "so called converted" was to be a politician..

[bigdare23]

dude, he was BORN a muslim, and the only reason he "so called converted" was to be a politician..


how can you be born a religion? :thinking:

[Jimmy B]

born and raised? jsut like i have been born and raised christian..

[bigdare23]

born and raised? jsut like i have been born and raised christian..


proof of this non-sense then :rolleyes:

[tony]

His mother is christian and she was a single mother, so please explain how he was raised muslim?

[bigdare23]

I might add his mother is White


So he's actually bi-racial and not just "black"

[Romeo]

i still think Obama may not have the time and experience when something that involves a difficult decision,comes up. but to each their own.

[hondachik]

i dont want a PMS'n president, or a muslim that is only popular because of his race..

just my 2 cents


seriously...when has a black person become popular because of their race?

[bigdare23]

i still think Obama may not have the time and experience when something that involves a difficult decision,comes up. but to each their own.


Now that's a reasonable opinion, but to dislike someone due to false facts is BS.

[Jimmy B]

I might add his mother is White


So he's actually bi-racial and not just "black"

his father was a black muslim, and his stepfather wasa black muslim.. and his mother was an athist

[hondachik]

sooo...its either vote for the white lady, or vote for the black dude. hard decision eh america?

[Jimmy B]

seriously...when has a black person become popular because of their race?

accually, thats why alot(not all) of african-american,er.. black americans are voting for him.. soley on his race

[Jimmy B]

sooo...its either vote for the white lady, or vote for the black dude. hard decision eh america?

both a BAD decision... not because of the black part though...

[bigdare23]

his father was a black muslim, and his stepfather wasa black muslim.. and his mother was an athist




proof of this non-sense then :rolleyes:


still waiting

[Jimmy B]

eh, i dont feel like searching for it right now.. i have better stuff to do than prove something that i know

[bigdare23]

eh, i dont feel like searching for it right now.. i have better stuff to do than prove something that i know


sure


now be gone spreading your foolishness

[The Yousef]

i dont want a PMS'n president, or a muslim that is only popular because of his race..

jsut my 2cents

hmmm he is not a Muslim...research before you type :goodjob:

[hondachik]

accually, thats why alot(not all) of african-american,er.. black americans are voting for him.. soley on his race

exactly why I didn't vote....I will vote later when its time for the real ****nitz. I dunno what each one stands for, because I don't pay attention to the CNN, Headline News, etc BS. I want to cast my own opinion, not listen to someone else's.

[The Yousef]

sooo...its either vote for the white lady, or vote for the black dude. hard decision eh america?
i don't mind if a woman becomes President...hell most other CIVILIZED nations had women Prime Ministers/Presidents in their history...it's about damn time we have a minority (of some sort) become President.

[Jecht]

his father was a black muslim, and his stepfather wasa black muslim.. and his mother was an athist

So you would think badly of someone because of their religious beliefs? :(

[bigdare23]

i don't mind if a woman becomes President...hell most other CIVILIZED nations had women Prime Ministers/Presidents in their history...it's about damn time we have a minority (of some sort) become President.


:cheers:


{you're a smart man when you're not blowing up ****}

[Jimmy B]

exactly why I didn't vote....I will vote later when its time for the real ****nitz. I dunno what each one stands for, because I don't pay attention to the CNN, Headline News, etc BS. I want to cast my own opinion, not listen to someone else's.

you dont listed to the left wing tv stations anyway! lol

i didnt vote today, because i knew ga would be a republican state anyway.. and winner was going to be mcain or huckabee.. eather one is good with me!

both would be better!

[The Yousef]

His mother is christian and she was a single mother, so please explain how he was raised muslim?

because of Republican proganda on the Anti-Islamic/Anti-Obama front...(because muslim=terrrorist=9/11=fear=yay neoconservative evangelical fundamentalist takes over Presidency again!!!)...

[The Yousef]

:cheers:


{you're a smart man when you're not blowing up ****}

...i try

tell me what these people share in common:

http://www.macalester.edu/~fines/presidents.jpg

[bigdare23]

they all have black suits on LOL

[The Yousef]

they all have black suits on LOL

EXACTLY!

and thats racist...

[bigdare23]

EXACTLY!

and thats racist...


LIRL :lmfao:

[hondachik]

so...I guess them all being white would be the incorrect answer?

[The Yousef]

so...I guess them all being white would be the incorrect answer?
no i'm just saying this country needs a change...and Lord only knows it's ready...after 8 years of political bull**** and an economy going down the sh1tter, the dollar falling faster then Rosie O'Donnell skydiving without a parachute, our international reputation in shambles and Vietnam (err i mean the Iraq war...yay for Halliburton and Blackwater!)...i want a bloody change in this country...

be that Obama (who i really, truely like) or Clinton (Bill i miss thee...i'd personally hire a hooker to give him a blowjob to have the country back to where it was)...

i respect McCain..always have and always will...i almost voted for him in the last election...because of his centerist/moderate views...but i'm not seeing that in this election thus far...so i'm swinging left

sorry for my rant...

:lmfao:

[The12lber]

GO... MIKE HUCKABEE!
We do not need a democrat president

Huckabee once commented that "he would ammend the constitution to god's standards" which is somewhat vague but would obviously include things like a state religion etc (which makes sense seeing as how the word "god" appears approximately 0.0000 times in the U.S. constitution).

Here are some other gems I don't feel like paraphrasing so I just ripped straight off of Wikipedia.

-In a 1992 statement, Huckabee advocated isolating AIDS patients from the general population. In 2007, Huckabee no longer advocates such an isolation, but he stands by his earlier view, saying that in 1992 "there was still a great deal of, I think, uncertainty about just how widespread AIDS was, how it could be transmitted. So we know more now than we did in 1992, all of us do -- hopefully." However, by 1992 it was well known that HIV/AIDS could not be spread by casual contact. In the same statement, Huckabee also opposed increasing federal funding for HIV/AIDS research and suggested that Hollywood celebrities should provide additional funds instead.

- Huckabee supports the ongoing War in Iraq (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Iraq) and the troop surge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War_troop_surge_of_2007).


- Huckabee has voiced his support of creationism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism). He was quoted in July 2004 on Arkansans Ask, his regular show on the Arkansas Educational Television Network: "I think that students (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students) also should be given exposure to the theories not only of evolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution) but to the basis of those who believe in creationism."

- Huckabee supports the FairTax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairTax) as a replacement for the current tax system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_States).

The FairTax system is more or less a new flat tax system. Flat taxes are inherently regressive, so Huckabee follows in the Republican tradition of ****ing the middle and lower class via taxes.

In short, Huckabee would follow well in the footsteps of George Bush. A religious zealot warmonger acting as the benefactor of corporate America and the military industrial complex at the expense of American taxpayers.

[The12lber]

you dont listed to the left wing tv stations anyway! lol

All mainstream media acts as a disseminating agent for the Government's agenda. If you think any differently, you're being superficial.

[hondachik]

Eh..I'm not in to politics. That makes **** less stressful for me. If the price of the dollar is going down...then I wish these damn bill collectors would stop asking me for em!!


In all honesty, I did enjoy Bill Clinton. He did seem to do things to help society try to better themselves. It just seems as though Dubya got in there, got caught up in the war, and now its just a waiting game for him to get out. I wouldn't be suprised if he got on tv and said he only ran for president because he was dared to. We might as well of had an 11 year old chess player run the country. At least he'd view all his options thorougly before he made a move.
but like I said, I'm not in to politics. I can't tell the man how to do his job, I just hope someone is able to clean up his mess.

[Jimmy B]

So you would think badly of someone because of their religious beliefs? :(

i personally want someone running this country with the same or simalar belifes that i have, yes!

[Jimmy B]

Huckabee once commented that "he would ammend the constitution to god's standards" which is somewhat vague but would obviously include things like a state religion etc (which makes sense seeing as how the word "god" appears approximately 0.0000 times in the U.S. constitution).

Here are some other gems I don't feel like paraphrasing so I just ripped straight off of Wikipedia.

-In a 1992 statement, Huckabee advocated isolating AIDS patients from the general population. In 2007, Huckabee no longer advocates such an isolation, but he stands by his earlier view, saying that in 1992 "there was still a great deal of, I think, uncertainty about just how widespread AIDS was, how it could be transmitted. So we know more now than we did in 1992, all of us do -- hopefully." However, by 1992 it was well known that HIV/AIDS could not be spread by casual contact. In the same statement, Huckabee also opposed increasing federal funding for HIV/AIDS research and suggested that Hollywood celebrities should provide additional funds instead.

- Huckabee supports the ongoing War in Iraq (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Iraq) and the troop surge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War_troop_surge_of_2007).


- Huckabee has voiced his support of creationism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism). He was quoted in July 2004 on Arkansans Ask, his regular show on the Arkansas Educational Television Network: "I think that students (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students) also should be given exposure to the theories not only of evolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution) but to the basis of those who believe in creationism."

- Huckabee supports the FairTax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairTax) as a replacement for the current tax system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_States).

The FairTax system is more or less a new flat tax system. Flat taxes are inherently regressive, so Huckabee follows in the Republican tradition of ****ing the middle and lower class via taxes.

In short, Huckabee would follow well in the footsteps of George Bush. A religious zealot warmonger acting as the benefactor of corporate America and the military industrial complex at the expense of American taxpayers.

such a good man!!!

[The Yousef]

Eh..I'm not in to politics..

people in our generation need to be...apathy is what dropped kicked our ass in the last couple elections....if we don't care about what's going in this country it will fuk us up the arse with no lube....social security will be bankrupt, we will have a massive budget deficit, and Big Brother will come out and haunt us in our dreams...


FUK!

NEVERMIND THAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED.




kthxbye.

[hondachik]

people in our generation need to be...apathy is what dropped kicked our ass in the last couple elections....if we don't care about what's going in this country it will fuk us up the arse with no lube....social security will be bankrupt, we will have a massive budget deficit, and Big Brother will come out and haunt us in our dreams...


FUK!

NEVERMIND THAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED.




kthxbye.


Lol. I was just about to say, that has already happened. It sucks, I work so hard for my money. If people were allowed to dig in to their social security throughout life, like a savings account. Maybe we wouldn't have so much debt in this country. I dunno....government does a lot of funny bull****. you would think that since we vote to have these assholes up there, society wouldn't be the way it is now. but then again, i guess half those rich bastards dont have to struggle like us everyday folk do....we pay for the cars they ride in, pay for the tow truck that picks it up when it breaks down, we pay for the repairs....but we can't even buy cars to get our own asses to work.

[BB6dohcvtec]

obama on the comeback ftw...i listen to all news even foxnews and by just watching and skipping over the bull**** cnn is the best at getting all news across from both parties equally with less ignorant anchors and correspondents. Foxnews is entertaining to me tho because they are really that dumb.

[The Yousef]

obama on the comeback ftw...i listen to all news even foxnews and by just watching and skipping over the bull**** cnn is the best at getting all news across from both parties equally with less ignorant anchors and correspondents. Foxnews is entertaining to me tho because they are really that dumb.

Daily Show is the best because Jon Stewart mocks all networks...our media sucks and is so slanted one way or another it's hard to know which way is up....but yes i prefer CNN over any other station...it wouldn't suprise me if Fox News is funded by the RNC... :lmao:

[The12lber]

such a good man!!!

You clearly don't understand what any of that meant. Unless you really would like more war, more new wars and for the merchants of death to get rich off your and your fellow citizen's tax dollars. I hope you are comfortable with a draft a few years down the line. I hope you are comfortable with the idea of dying in a war who's only benefeciaries are the ultra rich and thousands of other Americans dying with you.

[bigdare23]

Our society is so damn selfish! Everybody is only out for themselves. All I hear is I I I I I I I, or my money this, my money that. Basically, if it isn't benefiting you directly, they dont wanna hear it. That's why you hear so many people complain about Hillary health care plans. The bad part about it is, it's the people that will never have to struggle a day in their live complaining.

[afwfjustin]

bunch of liberal hippies in this thread

[afwfjustin]

Yeah because the Republicans have sure done a bang up job over the last 8 years.

This statement is a fallacy. Bush headed the no child left behind and patriot act - hardly republican entities since they rely on big government (democrats like big government). Both are complete ****, too.

[Maniac1]

This statement is a fallacy. Bush headed the no child left behind and patriot act - hardly republican entities since they rely on big government (democrats like big government). Both are complete ****, too.Bush was a great president! :rolleyes:

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa253/El_Maniaco/1697774307_cdd300dd8f.jpg

[1SOL2NV]

i see .. so yall want to give money away ... lol .. free health care is a good idea .. you jus aint seeing the fine print here .. where the hell do you think the money is gonna come from with "FREE" HEALTHCARE...... out of your paycheck every week !!! so triple the amount of bums that we have now .... its gonna be like the south park episode ...... " CAn you spare some change !?!?!?""" lol No thanks .......hilary dont get my vote .

[tony]

exactly why I didn't vote....I will vote later when its time for the real ****nitz. I dunno what each one stands for, because I don't pay attention to the CNN, Headline News, etc BS. I want to cast my own opinion, not listen to someone else's.

:thinking: I posted a thread highlighting all of the major candidates and their different positions. If you didnt educate yourself its because you didnt make the effort, an all too common problem with voters today. Are you even registered?

[1000cckiller]

Our society is so damn selfish! Everybody is only out for themselves. All I hear is I I I I I I I, or my money this, my money that. Basically, if it isn't benefiting you directly, they dont wanna hear it. That's why you hear so many people complain about Hillary health care plans. The bad part about it is, it's the people that will never have to struggle a day in their live complaining.x40,000,000 those are the one ones who complain. Bills have to be passed for anyone to have their wages taken, no matter how big or small. Regardless of all IA haters on here Hillary is the best we would have going in the White House. I don't trust judgement from any of you fawkers who voted Bush in office, because that showed you had dumb judgement not only for 4 years but for 8 years.

[1000cckiller]

:thinking: I posted a thread highlighting all of the major candidates and their different positions. If you didnt educate yourself its because you didnt make the effort, an all too common problem with voters today. Are you even registered?You are preaching to a deaf crowd, also wtf maybe you should go through the black population. Many of them voted for obama just because he was black, I talked to six people yesterday and that was the only reason they voted for him.

[1000cckiller]

This statement is a fallacy. Bush headed the no child left behind and patriot act - hardly republican entities since they rely on big government (democrats like big government). Both are complete ****, too.There are children left behind all the time still, so that is bs. Also that bill is why our country is so stupid.

[hondachik]

:thinking: I posted a thread highlighting all of the major candidates and their different positions. If you didnt educate yourself its because you didnt make the effort, an all too common problem with voters today. Are you even registered?

Yes I did register. And I have yet to read your thread, I worked from 9:30 am and didn't get off until 10pm last nite. It's pointless for me the read it now, I didn't even get on IA til after 10pm. So like I already stated, I did not make the effort.

[josh green]

IF YOU DID NOT SERVE IN THE MILITARY YOU SHOULD NOT BE PRESIDENT. The president is considered to the the highest rank in the military. If you were not in the military you should not be allowed to run. Period.
I voted republican, but I also agree that Bush did let us down as a country. I am not a supporter of Obama or Hillary for my own reasons. Throwing the whole evangelical thing is no different then me saying you voted for Obama b/c his race. I voted for Huckabee and I do not go to church or claim to be a christian.
You can also be born into a religion. Jewish people, even if they have nothing to do with their own laws they are still know or viewed a Jew. They are not some special race.

[Jimmy B]

You are preaching to a deaf crowd, also wtf maybe you should go through the black population. Many of them voted for obama just because he was black, I talked to six people yesterday and that was the only reason they voted for him.

yes!!! i mean, thats one of the only reasons that he is popular!

[SPOOLIN]

If i was going to vote for a democratic candidate, it would have been Obama.

[MistaCee]

I dont really care which democrat wins as long as another republican doesnt go into office. Which is really why I voted for obama because I think he has a better chance against Mclame

[1000cckiller]

I dont really care which democrat wins as long as another republican doesnt go into office. Which is really why I voted for obama because I think he has a better chance against Mclame :no: Obama would loose if he goes up against any republican. The good old white boys will never let it happen. Hillary has a better chance against republicans.

[ChnkyLao]

:no: Obama would loose if he goes up against any republican. The good old white boys will never let it happen. Hillary has a better chance against republicans.

he might be assasinate by some white supremacist if he gets elected,

i hope the secret service doesn't come busting through my door for this comment :ninja:

mclame is someone to consider though. we can't put him down because of what past republicans have done.

[MistaCee]

:no: Obama would loose if he goes up against any republican. The good old white boys will never let it happen. Hillary has a better chance against republicans.

Not necessarily, young white males have voted for obama more. But I am concerned for his safety if he is elected

[The12lber]

I voted republican, but I also agree that Bush did let us down as a country. I am not a supporter of Obama or Hillary for my own reasons. Throwing the whole evangelical thing is no different then me saying you voted for Obama b/c his race. I voted for Huckabee and I do not go to church or claim to be a christian.\

Why would you vote for someone who's political views on important issues are almost identical to Bush if you feel Bush let us down?

[The12lber]

i see .. so yall want to give money away ... lol .. free health care is a good idea .. you jus aint seeing the fine print here .. where the hell do you think the money is gonna come from with "FREE" HEALTHCARE...... out of your paycheck every week !!! Ideally, a great deal of the money would be from other areas. For example, the cost of the Iraq war, bull**** programs like foreign aid to Israel (Israel has the 16th highest per capita GDP in the world, this aid only functions as a subsidy for U.S. defense contractors) and rational high bracket tax revisions would do it and then some. You could also argue that defense spending itself (seperate from war costs) is irrationally high and could be cut to add to the pot for nationalized healthcare.

"While FY 2008 budget requests for US military spending are known, for most other countries, the most recent data is from 2005 (at time of writing). Using US spending at that time, we can compare US military spending with the rest of the world:


The US military spending was almost two-fifths of the total.
The US military spending was almost 7 times larger than the Chinese budget, the second largest spender.
The US military budget was almost 29 times as large as the combined spending of the six “rogue” states (Cuba, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Sudan and Syria) who spent $14.65 billion.
It was more than the combined spending of the next 14 nations.
The United States and its close allies accounted for some two thirds to three-quarters of all military spending, depending on who you count as close allies (typically NATO countries, Australia, Canada, Israel, Japan and South Korea)
The six potential “enemies,” Russia, and China together spent $139 billion, 30% of the U.S. military budget."

[Tracy]

The baby boomers are still alive and vote the most...so they are going to win :)

[tony]

You are preaching to a deaf crowd, also wtf maybe you should go through the black population. Many of them voted for obama just because he was black, I talked to six people yesterday and that was the only reason they voted for him.

Is it because he's black or Hillary and Bill turned them away? Everyone wants to say blacks are voting for Obama because of what he is but how do you explain his surge in white voters? Is that because he is black as well? I didnt realize being black was the popular thing to be when running for president.

And as for Obama being beat by a republican, Brian I am amazed at how delusional you are about Clinton. Barack vs. McCain is a no brainer.. Mccain does not stand a chance. Understand that Barack crosses the partisan line so he has a good group of republicans that support him as well. Conservatives are already bitter about McCain being the front runner so I guarantee you if Barack is elected and its McCain up against him Barack will be our next president.

Hillary needs to be very afraid, exit polls show that the people are ready for Obama and had it not been for early voting Obama would have won California.

[tony]

O yeah.. Hillary's financial support comes from these large groups and corporations.. her funds are slim while Barack's money comes from the people who will donate endlessly till he gets into office. This will be a problem for Hillary with the upcoming primaries and Texas a month away..

[1SOL2NV]

how are we allowing someone that resembles OSAMA .. run for president ? i dont support obama or hilary .for my own reasons ... BRING BILL BACK FFS !!!!!! .... aT least he didnt start any wars .... or stick his nose in some other countries buisness like bush ....

[1SOL2NV]

O yeah.. Hillary's financial support comes from these large groups and corporations.. her funds are slim while Barack's money comes from the people who will donate endlessly till he gets into office. This will be a problem for Hillary with the upcoming primaries and Texas a month away.. Does this include the big OIL AND GAS CORPORATIONS ... everyone complaining about gas being to high, taxes being high, and oil being high ... so who gonna vote for this ???? . not me

[tony]

how are we allowing someone that resembles OSAMA .. run for president ? i dont support obama or hilary .for my own reasons ... BRING BILL BACK FFS !!!!!! .... aT least he didnt start any wars .... or stick his nose in some other countries buisness like bush ....

I'm noticing a trend that about every 4th or 5th post someone feels the need to inject a little stupidity into the discussion. So we elect presidents based on resemblance now?

[bigdare23]

how are we allowing someone that resembles OSAMA .. run for president ? i dont support obama or hilary .for my own reasons ... BRING BILL BACK FFS !!!!!! .... aT least he didnt start any wars .... or stick his nose in some other countries buisness like bush ....



Now black people look like middle easterners :thinking:



waste of a post...

[1SOL2NV]

it was a joke man .. ya know ... haha hehe ... but w/e ..

[ahmonrah]

it was a joke man .. ya know ... haha hehe ... but w/e ..stupid.....

[1SOL2NV]

lol get your panties out of a twist man holy crap .

[LordMDP]

voting democratic is voting for socialism and less freedom

although I hate most republicans these days as well

thats why I voted for Paul--hes really the only true libertarian

[1000cckiller]

Is it because he's black or Hillary and Bill turned them away? Everyone wants to say blacks are voting for Obama because of what he is but how do you explain his surge in white voters? Is that because he is black as well? I didnt realize being black was the popular thing to be when running for president.

And as for Obama being beat by a republican, Brian I am amazed at how delusional you are about Clinton. Barack vs. McCain is a no brainer.. Mccain does not stand a chance. Understand that Barack crosses the partisan line so he has a good group of republicans that support him as well. Conservatives are already bitter about McCain being the front runner so I guarantee you if Barack is elected and its McCain up against him Barack will be our next president.

Hillary needs to be very afraid, exit polls show that the people are ready for Obama and had it not been for early voting Obama would have won California.How blacks vote has nothing to do with, how most blacks vote. Most of the surge from younger white voters, is because they don't want another republican in there like Bush. Obama would have not won Cali, it showed that last night. The majority of cali is Latinos and Asian americans which Hillary has their vote like 3 to 1 over obama. Nothing is delusional if you were running a business you would see why I support Hillary over Obama. Also where in the hell do you think obama would win vs. McCain? Also out of most of the powerful in America what whites do you think are going to vote for Obama over McCain. The system is a proven that shows Obama wouldn't win that battle. Obama needs more experience, if he runs another time I would vote for him but not this time.

[Kamikaze]

Seems like some of you would like to see this country continue it's downward spiral...

[NewGen33]

As long as we have a president who has the balls to go to war with another country if it needs to be done. I'd rather fight them over there then on American soil. .02

[tony]

How blacks vote has nothing to do with, how most blacks vote. Most of the surge from younger white voters, is because they don't want another republican in there like Bush. Obama would have not won Cali, it showed that last night. The majority of cali is Latinos and Asian americans which Hillary has their vote like 3 to 1 over obama. Nothing is delusional if you were running a business you would see why I support Hillary over Obama. Also where in the hell do you think obama would win vs. McCain? Also out of most of the powerful in America what whites do you think are going to vote for Obama over McCain. The system is a proven that shows Obama wouldn't win that battle. Obama needs more experience, if he runs another time I would vote for him but not this time.

The early voters leaned toward Hillary but the votes that were taken yesterday were in Obama's favor.. and that is a fact. Exit polls also showed Asians and Latinos favored Clinton 2-1 not 3-1.. thing is Barack gets the majority of the black and white vote, and latinos are not the majority everywhere.

Rasmussen polls also show that Obama has a much better chance at beating McCain.

[tony]

Barack is ahead by the way:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22997326/

D.C, Maryland and Virginia coming next week.. all leaning toward Obama. Like it or not Brian you're probably looking at what could be the next president.

[ahmonrah]

lol get your panties out of a twist man holy crap .
~looks around....checks in pants~
hmm...i see mo panties....boxers? yes..is there anything your getting at?

what i was getting at was the one dumb comment you've stated. nothing more nothing less. and i personally felt it was a dumb comment.
like with anything, without researching the people that are working to be figureheads of our country, any dumb comments are.....in fact dumb.

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DEMOCRATS
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obama wikepedia bio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama)

H. Clinton wikepedia bio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama)

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REPUBLICANS
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j. mccain wikepedia bio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_mccain)

M. Huckabee wikepedia bio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huckabee)

[/url][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney"]M. Romney wikepedia bio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huckabee)
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flame on? flame not. this is just a start as far as researching for all those interested. if you want more info, from different sources, do it yourselves!

[WickedIXMR]

I havnt voted yet but im leaning more towards hillary clinton. Reason being is because 1st of all i dont want another dumbass replublican in house that will keep this pointless war going which is killing the us economy and sucks for many people who own business'. Second is Obama has no experience as a president as for Hillary has somewhat of an experience being Bill Clinton's wife. Also i think Bill would help her make good decisions if she was to be elected. Either way i think Obama could make a great president if he was elected and i would be happy as long as a democrat gets elected to help out the US economy that Bush fu.cked up

[Kamikaze]

Experience? Did George Washington have experience? Thomas Jefferson? Abe Lincoln? Nope, none of them did their first go 'round. The only way you'd have experience is if you were running for re-election. Hillary may have been in the White House, but she probably didn't know half of what was going on.

[MistaCee]

Experience? Did George Washington have experience? Thomas Jefferson? Abe Lincoln? Nope, none of them did their first go 'round. The only way you'd have experience is if you were running for re-election. Hillary may have been in the White House, but she probably didn't know half of what was going on.

Exactly. We need someone who will turn this country right side up and bring people together. Bush with his experience hasnt done that so I think experience is out of the question.

[ahmonrah]

..... The majority of cali is Latinos and Asian americans which Hillary has their vote like 3 to 1 over obama.
i've been honestly wondering why that is.....anyone care to explain?


Nothing is delusional if you were running a business you would see why I support Hillary over Obama.
something else i have to look into...what has obama done that makes him a threat to business owners?
i'm going the way of the business owner(again), and the direction i'm goin in, i dont want to be hurting for doing it. ''cause if so, i'll just keep running on this hampster wheel called employee.


Also where in the hell do you think obama would win vs. McCain? The system has proven that Obama wouldn't win that battle. Obama needs more experience, if he runs another time I would vote for him but not this time. how much experience does he need?
the other question i was going to ask is null and void, seeing as how votes in ga were already tallied...

[ahmonrah]

one more question AND ANSWER FAST!! I'M HUNGRY!!!

http://www.pieceofgarbage.com/panda-express1.jpg


or


http://autoglassatlanta.com/files/2006/08/mcdonalds-hummer.jpg

[WickedIXMR]

Experience? Did George Washington have experience? Thomas Jefferson? Abe Lincoln? Nope, none of them did their first go 'round. The only way you'd have experience is if you were running for re-election. Hillary may have been in the White House, but she probably didn't know half of what was going on.
I just think its a plus to have presidential experience. Washington and Jefferson were presidents wayyyy back, this is a new age. I never said Obama wouldnt do good. Honestly to me its almost a toss up between Hillary and Obama. Reason being is because i think either one would help the people in this country which is what we really need. Im sick of minimum wage being 5.xx or whatever it is now.

[The12lber]

Originally Posted by WHAT_LAG
..... The majority of cali is Latinos and Asian americans which Hillary has their vote like 3 to 1 over obama.


I don't know if the margin is that wide.

[1SOL2NV]

Now black people look like middle easterners :thinking:



waste of a post...:lmfao: i wasnt talking about Appearances ... i was talking about a ****in name ... wow ...and if i want to be a idiot thats cool ... at least i can joke about something that yall take as a extreme measure like its world war 3 ..... lol ..yall take it easy .. may the best ***** win the election . peace .

[tony]

Nothing is delusional if you were running a business you would see why I support Hillary over Obama.

I run one, not on the scale of yours of course but I do run a business.. if that was my main concern I would vote republican not democrat.

[redrumracer]

well im a republican but out of the democrats id much rather see Obama win than that bitch

[ironchef]

Barack ahead by 4 right now, hopefully he pulls it out in the end.

[1000cckiller]

Barack is ahead by the way:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22997326/

D.C, Maryland and Virginia coming next week.. all leaning toward Obama. Like it or not Brian you're probably looking at what could be the next president.He won't be the next President, also I am glad you don't own your own business because you surely don't look at what I do.

[1000cckiller]

I run one, not on the scale of yours of course but I do run a business.. if that was my main concern I would vote republican not democrat.no you wouldn't because over the last four years they have sunk business in the ground. I have more than a few witnesses to that fact.

[tony]

no you wouldn't because over the last four years they have sunk business in the ground. I have more than a few witnesses to that fact.

They promote tax cuts for businesses (in theory)

[1000cckiller]

They promote tax cuts for businesses (in theory)In theory is different than it actually happening. If obama ran in another four years maybe. The problem is most of the people who hate Clinton on this board is because she is a woman. No matter who goes in office it will, take in my eyes 10yrs to fix this country. I have some info I will post later.

[SiLkY_JohnSon]

Me personally dont like anyone in the campaign but obama is alright Hilary is a Dike and Mccain just isnt known

[tony]

Economically Hillary does not believe in free trade, I had to go fetch the quote but she states:

"The unfettered free market has been the most radically disruptive force in American life in the last generation."

Uhh.. free trade is what this economy is built on and you as a business owner should see the detriment of that line of thinking. She already wants to garnish wages, what if she came in tomorrow and said Brian.. you're making too much money so after a certain amount of profit the government will seize the rest of the revenue you bring in? She has proposed this by the way..

[The12lber]

no you wouldn't because over the last four years they have sunk business in the ground. I have more than a few witnesses to that fact.

Its true, George Bush has personally toured these United States with a wrecking ball and destroyed American business.

zzzzz

Please. George bush is amazingly incompetent. He has never been good at anything he's done. Fighter pilot, fail. Oil baron, fail. As a politician, his administration will be remembered as one of, if not the, most disastrous in our history... but... BUT... that being said.

His incompetent fiscal policy making did not sink businesses left and right. America has experienced typical, if unremarkable, economic growth during his two terms (and despite popular misconception, no recession).

He could have done better. He could have done so very much better. I could sit here all night and tell you everything he could have done and what the results could have been. But what it comes right down to is, he didn't **** things up that bad.

U.S. Economy > George Bush's unparalleled incompetence

[1000cckiller]

Economically Hillary does not believe in free trade, I had to go fetch the quote but she states:

"The unfettered free market has been the most radically disruptive force in American life in the last generation."

Uhh.. free trade is what this economy is built on and you as a business owner should see the detriment of that line of thinking. She already wants to garnish wages, what if she came in tomorrow and said Brian.. you're making too much money so after a certain amount of profit the government will seize the rest of the revenue you bring in? She has proposed this by the way..
Some free trade economists have recently begun to express their own doubts concerning the concept and practice of free trade. Alan S. Blinder, for example, a professor of economics at Princeton University, and former Federal Reserve Board vice chairman and advisor to Democratic presidential candidates, had previously argued, along with most economists, that free trade enriches the U.S. and its trading partners. However, he now says new communication technology will put 30-40 million American jobs at risk in 10-20 years. Blinder has not completely rejected free trade or Ricardo's ideas about comparative advantage, but he advocates greater protection for displaced workers and an improved education system. Blinder opposed steel, aluminum and farming export subsidies and protection, and pushed for the passage of NAFTA, though he did not agree that it would create jobs in the US. Trade changes types of jobs, not the number, he said. Technology allowed Indians in call centers to do the work of Americans at lower wages. "Tens of millions of additional American workers will start to experience an element of job insecurity that has heretofore been reserved for manufacturing workers.


Free trade is good to a point, but it has cost a lot of americans jobs. It will only get worse as years go on. Also take account for how many american owned businesses that have packed up and move over sees and opened up shop. If you search it there are a lot of those businesses.

[1000cckiller]

Its true, George Bush has personally toured these United States with a wrecking ball and destroyed American business.

zzzzz

Please. George bush is amazingly incompetent. He has never been good at anything he's done. Fighter pilot, fail. Oil baron, fail. As a politician, his administration will be remembered as one of, if not the, most disastrous in our history... but... BUT... that being said.

His incompetent fiscal policy making did not sink businesses left and right. America has experienced typical, if unremarkable, economic growth during his two terms (and despite popular misconception, no recession).

He could have done better. He could have done so very much better. I could sit here all night and tell you everything he could have done and what the results could have been. But what it comes right down to is, he didn't **** things up that bad.

U.S. Economy > George Bush's unparalleled incompetenceI will give him credit that in his first four years he helped businesses, but in his last four he ripped down what he helped before.

[The12lber]

Free trade is good to a point, but it has cost a lot of americans jobs. I will only get worse as years go on. Also take account for how many american owned businesses that have packed up and move over sees and opened up shop. If you search it there are a lot of those businesses.

There will always be the minority academic dissent. If our society is dilligent and driven, said "lost jobs" will indeed simply become new jobs of a different type. If people aren't serious about aqcuiring new skills or a greater education, this will not happen.

Free trade and globalization are both unstoppable forces and inevitable realities. America can either adapt and thrive or restrict free trade gradually and choke our economy.

[The12lber]

I will give him credit that in his first four years he helped businesses, but in his last four he ripped down what he helped before.

As much as I hate building arguments around statistics, that all the more evidence an economist has. And they don't support your statement.

[ironchef]

There will always be the minority academic dissent. If our society is dilligent and driven, said "lost jobs" will indeed simply become new jobs of a different type. If people aren't serious about aqcuiring new skills or a greater education, this will not happen.

Free trade and globalization are both unstoppable forces and inevitable realities. America can either adapt and thrive or restrict free trade gradually and choke our economy.Nice post, I completely agree. If you are one of the ones to lose your job to an indian call center, you don't have anyone but yourself to blame. Further education, experience, and increased skillset will lead you to the promised land.

[Ran]

I seriously laugh at those that cry out how we need a change because "it's time for a woman president" or "it's time for a minority president".

Screw you and your narrow-minded perception of what we need. We DON'T NEED a woman or minority president. We NEED a president that is knowledgable, competent, and can help bring this country back to life.

[Jimmy B]

I seriously laugh at those that cry out how we need a change because "it's time for a woman president" or "it's time for a minority president".

Screw you and your narrow-minded perception of what we need. We DON'T NEED a woman or minority president. We NEED a president that is knowledgable, competent, and can help bring this country back to life.


wow, you are SOOO right.. but IMO, bush has done the best he can under the conditions he has.. we do need someone that is going to take control and pick up where GwB left off and KEEP the US a superpower, NOT jsut be nice to everyone

[tony]

Superpower doesn't mean international police. The European Union is becoming very strong through fiscal policy, same with China and Japan. At the current rate we will be at the mercy of other countries who dealt with their domestic issues rather than stuck their nose in every little tiff across the globe, especially those involving oil.

Reagan dealt with Russia through diplomacy, not once did we attack them and we came out on top. Diplomacy works and diplomacy saves lives, those that we call our enemy today could easily become an ally. Bush's policy does not save lives, it costs the taxpayers BILLIONS and it tarnishes our position across the globe and you want to continue that???

[Nomad!]

i dont want a PMS'n president, or a muslim that is only popular because of his race..

jsut my 2cents
Even if Obama were Muslim (which he is NOT) so freakin' what? You mean to tell me that someone's religion makes them a better person, politician, and/or president? Give m a break! Apparently being a "God fearin' Christian" doesn't make a difference. If that were the case, GW wouldn't go down in history as one of, if not THE, worst president(s) in US history. Based on what I know, killing is very anti-Christian. With that beign the case, why is it ok for a christian to have the military kill at his command? So many republicans are so quick to boast about America and how great it is because of all of it's freedom but, are quick to turn that statement around when it best suits them. If this country were what it is supposed to be, why would it matter what Obama's religion or religious background was? As long as his religion didn't interfere with his JOB as president, why does it matter? Would he somehow make you any less christian or weaken your faith? The president is a political leader, not a religious or spiritual leader. I don't need anyone ANYONE trying to steer my faith. I'm voting for the person that will best fit the JOB of President of the US. Call me naive but, I think my GOD understands that.

[{X}Echo419]

Discuss...
MARTA must go to voting stations.

[BobbyFresco]

wow, you are SOOO right.. but IMO, bush has done the best he can under the conditions he has.. we do need someone that is going to take control and pick up where GwB left off and KEEP the US a superpower, NOT jsut be nice to everyone

Are you typing all of this off of a cue card?

Seriously, you are doing nothing but paroting the same old tired Republican rhetoric....
I wish that people would start voting based on the issues and what the candidate stands for rather than by some ridiculous loyalty to a certain party line. Sheep make me laugh.


Pick up where he left off or did you really mean pick up the pieces?
He's done the best that he could under the conditions? Wow. So you're ok with making do and not making things happen? How underachieving of you.:rolleyes:

The stats don't lie... Bush has royally fuked this country on so many different levels.

How do you justify the senseless and truly asinine war in Iraq?
How do you comfort the mothers and wives and children of all the young and not so young soldiers that have lost their lives fighting a war that was a fallacy based on lies and misleading bs?

How do you explain the sudden need to issue rebates to taxpayers under the guise of jump starting what is obviously a stagnant economy?

The US a "superpower"? That is laughable.
Our arrogance has led us to believe this as true but on international scale, we are viewed as a joke. We are not respected, rather we are viewed as a joke. A bully, nothing more....

The fact of the matter is most Americans who are not hiding behind your veil of ignorance are waking up to the fact that drastic change is needed immediately.

[The12lber]

How do you explain the sudden need to issue rebates to taxpayers under the guise of jump starting what is obviously a stagnant economy?

Its obvious to anyone with a brain its just part of the business cycle.

The US a "superpower"? That is laughable.
Our arrogance has led us to believe this as true but on international scale, we are viewed as a joke. We are not respected, rather we are viewed as a joke. A bully, nothing more....

No, its definitely true. Go find the criteria a country needs to fulfill to be considered a superpower or ask a few credible academics and see what they tell you. That being said, Bush's time in office has dimished our projectable power significantly.


I'll finish by saying that Bush's time in office has been disastrous for us and he is to blame. That being said, you're taking your criticisms into the realm of bull**** which isn't cool either.

[BobbyFresco]

I'll finish by saying that Bush's time in office has been disastrous for us and he is to blame. That being said, you're taking your criticisms into the realm of bull**** which isn't cool either.



How so?

Just out of curiosity, when was the last time you've been overseas or spoken to someone who lives abroad?

Do you have any idea what the general sentiment is towards Americans worldwide?

AND when in recent history has the US government had to take such drastic measures as those that are presently being taken.?

Please show me another "SUPERPOWER" that has taken such a measure...

Oh, and you can drop the condescending attitude anytime now. I think you overestimate yourself.

[devinwebb907]

race aside and sex aside, hilary is NOT going to win. get over it, cry all you want. just not going to happen.

i dont agree with everything any one candidate stands for, and im pretty sure most people are the same way. i will more than likely vote republican, because at the moment the democrats are complete liberals, and i am conservative. there is no median, they are all extreme(at least the candidates with a chance at candidacy). getting us out of iraq immediately is going to make us look like a pansy is running the country and anyone can run over us. having us send more troops is not the answer either. there are other issues i really dont feel like i need to argue any of them, someone is going to nag one way or the other. vote how you want.

refer back to south park. remember the episode where they were bickering back and forth between the liberals and the conservatives? "if you dont like it, you can get out"[irrelavant but i love the quote] cartman 'went back in time' and asked the forefathers. their solution(john adams maybe?) was we need the pansy's so people dont think we are all hateful evil sob's and terrorize us/start a wa. and we need the evil hateful sob's so people dont think we are all pansies and they can overrun us and terrorize us/start a war. so quit bashing one another.

vote for who you want, and let the best candidate win, IMO. i just hope whoever wins doesnt drag us into the gutter more than we already are, or into a new one for the next 4 years.

[devinwebb907]

and ps. if you democrats were smart then you would vote for obama. im not a fan, but he has a chance to win, hilary does not. everyone will wind up voting republican if its hilary vs. republican. MY OPINION. flame all you want.

[BB6dohcvtec]

race aside and sex aside, hilary is NOT going to win. get over it, cry all you want. just not going to happen.

i dont agree with everything any one candidate stands for, and im pretty sure most people are the same way. i will more than likely vote republican, because at the moment the democrats are complete liberals, and i am conservative. there is no median, they are all extreme(at least the candidates with a chance at candidacy). getting us out of iraq immediately is going to make us look like a pansy is running the country and anyone can run over us. having us send more troops is not the answer either. there are other issues i really dont feel like i need to argue any of them, someone is going to nag one way or the other. vote how you want.

refer back to south park. remember the episode where they were bickering back and forth between the liberals and the conservatives? "if you dont like it, you can get out"[irrelavant but i love the quote] cartman 'went back in time' and asked the forefathers. their solution(john adams maybe?) was we need the pansy's so people dont think we are all hateful evil sob's and terrorize us/start a wa. and we need the evil hateful sob's so people dont think we are all pansies and they can overrun us and terrorize us/start a war. so quit bashing one another.

vote for who you want, and let the best candidate win, IMO. i just hope whoever wins doesnt drag us into the gutter more than we already are, or into a new one for the next 4 years.

I will flame at you referring to a south park episode to TRY and get your silly point across :lmfao:

[The12lber]

How so?

Just out of curiosity, when was the last time you've been overseas or spoken to someone who lives abroad?

Do you have any idea what the general sentiment is towards Americans worldwide?

No, I haven't traveled internationally. I never dispute the notion of America's lack of popularity internationally. zzzz.

AND when in recent history has the US government had to take such drastic measures as those that are presently being taken.?

Amazingly vague.

Please show me another "SUPERPOWER" that has taken such a measure...

Also amazingly vague. That being said, America definitely matches the criteria for a superpower... and pretty much any academic, statesman or anyone rational and informed will agree.

Oh, and you can drop the condescending attitude anytime now. I think you overestimate yourself.




Yes, I am being condescending and overestimating myself because I told you that you were using bull**** to further your argument. Please sir, very petty.

I suppose when you invoked the intentionally vague "drastic measures" you meant things like the invasion turned simmering guerilla conflict in Afghanistan or the invasion for a million shady reasons turned simmering civil war in Iraq and our inability to completely pacify either.

The USSR, with one of the two most potent armed forces, occupied Afghanistan with twice as many troops as the current U.S. backed coalition in Afghanistan and still failed to pacify ANY hostility there after ten years.

As for Iraq, the Neo-Cons decided they could deny China more oil and bankroll the military industrial complex at the same time. Its no surprise that it eventually turned to civil war with two closely settled religious groups with hundreds of years of acrimonious history between the two and a lack of extremely heavy handed discipline to keep them in line.

Both states of affair utilize an unacceptable amount of U.S. military assets and dilute the amount of power we can project internationally. But neither are contrary to a country with military, economic and political superpower status.

[BobbyFresco]

Yes, I am being condescending and overestimating myself because I told you that you were using bull**** to further your argument. Please sir, very petty.



Amazingly vague.....LOL....And so is your rebuttal....

Being that you oppose my views and being that you're the omnipotent super brain that you'd like to believe yourself to be, surely you'd have an answer for what you deem as being bullshyt, correct?.


Like I have stated before and like other people have pointed out already, you give yourself way too much credit. Your pseudo intellectual act is not impressing anyone here.

[The12lber]

Amazingly vague.....LOL....And so is your rebuttal....

Being that you oppose my views and being that you're the omnipotent super brain that you'd like to believe yourself to be, surely you'd have an answer for what you deem as being bullshyt, correct?.


Like I have stated before and like other people have pointed out already, you give yourself way too much credit. Your pseudo intellectual act is not impressing anyone here.

If "drastic measures" isn't vague I don't know what is. zzzzz. Check previous page.

I'll express exactly what you said but in an intentionally dumb way so you get a hint.

"THE US IS DOING CRAZY THINGZ. REFUTE THIS CLAIM."

Please. I'm not going to sit here and explore every possibility that could be concealed under that rather large umbrella.

If anyone here is being pseudo intellectual its not me, considering I specifically refuted your statements from the first post and afterwards all you had to offer me was something as specific as "drastic measures", which even if it was true, would not be contrary to a country holding superpower status.

[1000cckiller]

Ok well I am fixing to state my point. I wouldn't vote for obama this year period, if he ran next term he would have my vote. Just because someone promises change doesn't mean it will happen that is for Tony. I don't care if he is black or white, he's not ready.

For the idiot who is calling democrats stupid, he is a idiot. There is not one republican who has made any sense what so ever, during their debates. The republicans running for office are just as stupid as the one, who is in office. Republicans were talking about how good Bush was for the office his first go around, and he has let everyone down since. He is a redneck racist sumbish, who has lied to the country for damn near eight years. We are fighting for a means to a end to a war we should have never went to.

Our country isn't the police for every other country, in this world. This is the soul reason our country has gone to sh!t. Take care of your own before reaching out to others.

[BobbyFresco]

If "drastic measures" isn't vague I don't know what is. zzzzz. Check previous page.

I'll express exactly what you said but in an intentionally dumb way so you get a hint.

"THE US IS DOING CRAZY THINGZ. REFUTE THIS CLAIM."

Please. I'm not going to sit here and explore every possibility that could be concealed under that rather large umbrella.


I'm impressed by your ability to regurgitate googled info....

YOU SURE SHOWED ME!:rolleyes:

and secondly, that is definitely not what I was refering to but then again, Mr. omnipotent, you so should been able to see that.....

[The12lber]

I'm impressed by your ability to regurgitate googled info....

YOU SURE SHOWED ME!:rolleyes:

and secondly, that is definitely not what I was refering to but then again, Mr. omnipotent, you so should been able to see that.....

I didn't google it nor would it make the information any less valid if I did (and it was valid). More over, omnipotence is absolute power over the universe, not the ability to know your thoughts. That's omniscience. zzzz. At least get that right.

You are indeed BSing and this post I've quoted is evidence of that, whenever you'd like to state, support and explain your position I'd be happy to have a discussion with you. You aren't doing any but the first at the moment.

[The12lber]

Our country isn't the police for every other country, in this world. This is the soul reason our country has gone to sh!t. Take care of your own before reaching out to others.

Trade with all countries and hostility towards none is the best foreign policy.

[1000cckiller]

Trade with all countries and hostility towards none is the best foreign policy.It will never work

[The12lber]

It will never work

The EU nations prove it does. China, commonly touted as the "evil communist empire" ( there's some pretty shady stuff going on within the country, but its not THAT bad), also proves it does. Taiwan doesn't count.

[Kelly]

still waiting


This is the info I've found.... I'm def for Huckabee. I don't think he'll win, but hopefully he can be VP. :dunno:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

A theme of Obama's keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, and the title of his 2006 book, The Audacity of Hope, was inspired by his pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright.[136] In Chapter 6 of the book, titled "Faith," Obama writes that he "was not raised in a religious household." He describes his mother, raised by non-religious parents, as detached from religion, yet "in many ways the most spiritually awakened person that I have ever known." He describes his Kenyan father as "raised a Muslim," but a "confirmed atheist" by the time his parents met, and his Indonesian stepfather as "a man who saw religion as not particularly useful." The chapter details how Obama, in his twenties, while working with local churches as a community organizer, came to understand "the power of the African American religious tradition to spur social change." Obama writes: "It was because of these newfound understandings—that religious commitment did not require me to suspend critical thinking, disengage from the battle for economic and social justice, or otherwise retreat from the world that I knew and loved—that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity United Church of Christ one day and be baptized."[137] He has been a member of Trinity United Church of Christ for over twenty years.

[Kelly]

Look how cute he is! http://www.comedycentral.com/sitewide/media_player/play.jhtml?itemId=156269

Lol...

[JITB]

wow, you are SOOO right.. but IMO, bush has done the best he can under the conditions he has.. we do need someone that is going to take control and pick up where GwB left off and KEEP the US a superpower, NOT jsut be nice to everyone


lol superpower..... the Us is loosing its grasop over the world. The war has turned out to be pointless and a waste of money thus far. There is nothing you can say to defend it, b/c its all bogus.

[tony]

I didn't google it nor would it make the information any less valid if I did (and it was valid). More over, omnipotence is absolute power over the universe, not the ability to know your thoughts. That's omniscience. zzzz. At least get that right.

You are indeed BSing and this post I've quoted is evidence of that, whenever you'd like to state, support and explain your position I'd be happy to have a discussion with you. You aren't doing any but the first at the moment.

Don't worry about it man, any time you state something other than general knowledge some will assume it comes from google as if people don't open books any more.

[devinwebb907]

truthfully, im upset colbert got booted out. im more fond of him than any other candidates. he wasnt very serious, but whatever he acts more practical on tv.

[The12lber]

I'm not sure how any of that business about Obama's background is significant except being indicative how someone who isn't a religious headcase.

[BB6dohcvtec]

obama did sweep the primaries held yesterday

[Kamikaze]

Obama Wins Virginia


By DAVID ESPO, AP
Tue Feb 12, 7:49 PM EST

Sen. Barack Obama won the Virginia primary Tuesday night and reached out for victories in nearby Maryland and the District of Columbia, determined to erode or even erase Hillary Rodham Clinton's delegate lead in the Democratic presidential race. Obama's triumph made it six straight over Clinton, the former first lady, now struggling in a race she once commanded.

Interviews with voters leaving the polls showed blacks accounted for nearly one-third of the ballots cast in Virginia, and Obama's share approached 90 percent. He and Clinton split the white vote. She led among white women, but he was preferred by a majority of white men.

:bump:

[tony]

He beat her when it comes to Latino vote and lower class voters.. a segment he had not touched in previous primaries.