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type_r
01-27-2008, 10:42 PM
Ok I'm looking to get my first import. It's gonna be all motor and I have a pretty limited budget. No engine swaps. I'm on a 5000 budget for just the car and want to know if I should go with the teg or a 240. My knowledge on these cars is pretty limited. I'll have no problem building it, I just dont know what platform is the best starting point for a nice, reliable DD that's quick enough to have some fun in. Thanks.
redpanda
01-27-2008, 10:43 PM
all motor? gsr all the way. b18's ftmfw
japan4racing
01-27-2008, 10:53 PM
what do you wanna use this for? drag, auto-x, roadrace, getaway car from bank robberies????
Barefoot
01-27-2008, 10:54 PM
yah all motor id get the honda all day. if u wanted boost the 240 is a way better option.
bRiAnMcIvIcS
01-27-2008, 11:03 PM
Do you want FWD or RWD?
I would say Integra GSR.
SampaGuy
01-27-2008, 11:21 PM
i would give up 50hp to have rwd anyday...
integraguy06
01-27-2008, 11:39 PM
i have a teggy, its not a gsr, but i would much rather have a 240, just for when u are coming to a big turn and no ones around, DRIFT nigg@... cant really do that in my integra without losing control for a second or 2
87 Turbo II
01-27-2008, 11:43 PM
you have $5000? Get an FC. Turbos can be had for $2000 or $3000 and they get more respect than 240s. Don't believe me? Look at this thread and read what most people say "I'd rather have the 7 over the 240":
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155268
Also; you'll have $2,000 to spend on goodies, new paint, nice wheels, replacing some stuff etc.
yudalicious
01-27-2008, 11:59 PM
you have $5000? Get an FC. Turbos can be had for $2000 or $3000 and they get more respect than 240s. Don't believe me? Look at this thread and read what most people say "I'd rather have the 7 over the 240":
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155268
Also; you'll have $2,000 to spend on goodies, new paint, nice wheels, replacing some stuff etc.
Everyone knows that it's important that YOU buy a car that OTHER people respect.
K20Z1
01-28-2008, 12:19 AM
Everyone knows that it's important that YOU buy a car that OTHER people respect.
x2 its ur car lol not peoples car
87 Turbo II
01-28-2008, 01:39 AM
I guess I should've also mentioned that they're faster than 240s(stock vs. stock), RWD, have 50/50 weight distribution, a limited slip differential, 4 wheel steering, and have great braking and suspension setups from the factory. Anything made by Honda motor Co. is overpriced on the used market, and 240s are too common, I'm just saying, be different, be rare, and get a fun Rx-7.
Popularity is by no means the reason to buy a car, but the purpose of that post was just to get him considering and looking at 7s. I guess the reason I used that respect thing as a crutch right now is that it was the fastest way to keep people from going "He didn't say an Rx-7 was an option, he said GSR or 240 nag nag nag" I was just putting it out there that, people consider 7s over 240s which was one of his choices so it could be looked at as a viable option as well. I just didn't want to partake in a long drawn out debate about why I mentioned the 7, and having to defend that it IS reliable to the 80% of the community that'll call them death traps at the drop of a hat when they know NOTHING about the rotary engine.
afwfjustin
01-28-2008, 02:48 AM
I was going to say get an FC over your two choices but it was already mentioned. I've always wanted one and hope to have one one day.
Elbow
01-28-2008, 08:21 AM
An RX-7 is rare??????? lolol
Not as common as a 240 but it is far from rare.
santacruz77
01-28-2008, 08:58 AM
lmao i was fixin to put that, be diffrent? be rare?..... no sorry i see rx7s proll everyday as well as 240s or a teg.
i would say 240 over the teg if your sticking to thoose two options because if you want somthing fun rwd is kinda hard to beat even if its a little slower than the teg.
afwfjustin
01-28-2008, 07:21 PM
I don't know where you guys live that you see rx7's every day. I see maybe 5 a year on the road.
EJ25RUN
01-28-2008, 07:27 PM
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i guess he doesnt care what you think :lmfao:
HachiDori
01-28-2008, 07:32 PM
Get a honda, too many people have 240's
type_r
01-28-2008, 08:15 PM
The rwd of the 240 could be the deciding factor. I'm just not very knowledgable about these cars so I needed outside help. An rx-7 could be interesting. This is just for me to get my feet wet in the import world. I've driven a few imports(300zx, teg, 240, rx-8) and loved them. Insurance on a 300 is a ***** though and I obviously can't balance college/rent with an rx-8. I don't know why a 7 didn't cross my mind but I'll look into it. What are the common swaps done with Integras? I suppose potential engine swaps are a factor because I'll have the time to do something like that in a couple years.(hopefully)
Benefit
01-28-2008, 08:51 PM
i had two 240sx's, first car was a s13 with ka24de, second car s13 with sr20det...then i had a integra gs-r and now a integra type-r...
they are both great cars...but if you say no engine swaps and your on a limited budget, 240 is not for you.
go with the gs-r , the drive of the car is alot better and its a fun little quick car..
chituntang
01-28-2008, 08:59 PM
If you are looking into straight line fast, go with a teg. By all means you can swap engine, do turbo upgrades and make more power easier than 240sx or rx7.
I owned 3 240sx, and I would have to say they are slow. But slow does not make them bad cars. They are still reliable and fun to drive with.
87 Turbo II, not saying what you say is wrong, but you either need to push your luck to find a cheap, clean FC, or you have to pay a lot. For 3k, I can find a nice decent S13. I have seen nice T-II going 3800, and I would bought it if I have not bought my S14. Oh, another factor is gas. Good luck with your 20mpg with gas price now a days. And sorry to say that from your pics on the other post, I would rather have the S13, unless you get a repaint.
I have a lot more to say but let just stop here. You are just a hater.
carbon_crash
01-28-2008, 09:36 PM
The rwd of the 240 could be the deciding factor. I'm just not very knowledgable about these cars so I needed outside help. An rx-7 could be interesting. This is just for me to get my feet wet in the import world. I've driven a few imports(300zx, teg, 240, rx-8) and loved them. Insurance on a 300 is a ***** though and I obviously can't balance college/rent with an rx-8. I don't know why a 7 didn't cross my mind but I'll look into it. What are the common swaps done with Integras? I suppose potential engine swaps are a factor because I'll have the time to do something like that in a couple years.(hopefully)
When you need insurance on whatever you decide to get, I can hook you up with a good quote through Nationwide Insurance. PM me for details.:goodjob:
TheDarkRacer
01-29-2008, 12:07 AM
id say 7 or mr2.. mr2's are cool...
and ^^ hook me up!...ill deff need it in 3 months haha
type_r
01-29-2008, 08:01 PM
What about a 92' civic hatch with a b18? As I've stated before I dont know anything about this so what the hell is a b18 and what kind of power can I expect to make from it? I'm planning on trading my Jeep for it so I'll have some money for boost if that would be a good option. I'm guessing I should run it at about 12 psi for reliable daily driving?
87 Turbo II
01-29-2008, 09:24 PM
I don't know where you guys live that you see rx7's every day. I see maybe 5 a year on the road.
yeah, this is what I meant by rare.
To the others: you see one every day? is it the same one that parks at their job or house because they're not common cars. Also, GA has the 3rd highest concentration of 7s (California being the first, Texas being the 2nd) so if anyhting we shouldn't just see them more, we should see them A LOT, and they're still rare.
RWD164
02-05-2008, 12:27 PM
$5000 could get you a GOOD BMW 2002, which you could then, put a turbo on it
On_Her_Face
02-05-2008, 12:55 PM
i think the FC.
DESTRO_91
02-05-2008, 01:10 PM
Get whatever it is you want. You already have an idea of which way to go. Find the right price and get it. If you build it(right), people will respect it, no matter what it is. But to answer your question, I'm partial to the GSR. If you loke both cars, you can't go wrong, unless you get jerked on the price.
turborodarry
02-12-2008, 12:48 PM
Ok I'm looking to get my first import. It's gonna be all motor and I have a pretty limited budget. No engine swaps. I'm on a 5000 budget for just the car and want to know if I should go with the teg or a 240. My knowledge on these cars is pretty limited. I'll have no problem building it, I just dont know what platform is the best starting point for a nice, reliable DD that's quick enough to have some fun in. Thanks.
the honda is what it is not going to be as fun to drive as you rwd option imo, but i know u can beat them to death, personally i would never own a fwd car
quickdodge®
02-12-2008, 12:56 PM
school me: gsr or 240?
Why limit yourself to just those two. There are plenty of much better cars that you can get, have money to mod with and not be like everyone else. Why be a follower? Later, QD.
FoolsDrifFWD
02-12-2008, 01:11 PM
Get the GSR its far better than the 240 for N/A application. Hondas are just damn good cars anyway they can take abuse. Nissans on the other hand have all this little **** that goes wrong with them. Damn KA. If I where you I would get an EG or EK.
Random Hero
02-12-2008, 01:38 PM
Why limit yourself to just those two. There are plenty of much better cars that you can get, have money to mod with and not be like everyone else. Why be a follower? Later, QD.
Well said, QD.
Personally, I'd get something along the lines of a older GS or SC. Perhaps even a Tacoma/4Runner. I'm a huge Toyota buff though. :goodjob:
But, I'd have to ask more about your history of driving to get a good idea of what I think would be best for you.
However, based on the choices you've given us, this is what I've come up with:
For instance, I love Integras (owned quite a few) and they are solid and peppy little cars, but if you have never owned a RWD and you're a newbie driver, stick to this FWD and learn how to drive somewhat decent then jump to a RWD 240.
But, the ******* in me must say this: If you have to ask people what kind of car they think you should get, then you need to take time to figure out yourself before you make any mistakes financially.
That's my :2cents:
quickdodge®
02-12-2008, 01:43 PM
Well said, QD.
Thank you. I don't understand why everyone wants to be a carbon copy of everyone else. Later, QD.
DieselNuts
02-12-2008, 01:46 PM
rwd>fwd
end of discussion
Random Hero
02-12-2008, 01:49 PM
rwd>fwd
end of discussion
Althought I do agree with you (from the fun aspect), becareful with that comment. ;)
Dirty Octopus™
02-12-2008, 01:51 PM
Get a honda, too many people have 240's
i say get a RWD
FoolsDrifFWD
02-12-2008, 01:51 PM
rwd>fwd
end of discussion
:umno:
eraser4g63
02-12-2008, 01:51 PM
yeah, this is what I meant by rare.
To the others: you see one every day? is it the same one that parks at their job or house because they're not common cars. Also, GA has the 3rd highest concentration of 7s (California being the first, Texas being the 2nd) so if anyhting we shouldn't just see them more, we should see them A LOT, and they're still rare.
The reason they are so rare is because people keep attempting to drift them and they destroy the body, or the break and people cast them by the way side. You ever notice you cant find a clean one anymore, same goes for the 240sx. You cant find a clean one. I thought i lucked out on my buy until i popped, and ill be the first to tell you they are not cheap to fix or keep running. There also seem to be a large following of 7s in Florida and Canada
Owning an Rx-7 is like starting you own company you gotta work hard at it, and invest money in it. You can be afraid to eat/ sleep/ dream/ rotarys.
If you wanna work for wal-mart where there is very little room for advancement and nobody notices anything you do, the community is not very welcoming and ***** about a tone of ****. Buy a 240 or Integra. now mind you there are some of these cars that make it into a management position where everybody knows them and they are great looking cars. Then.. they get stolen.
DieselNuts
02-12-2008, 01:53 PM
Althought I do agree with you (from the fun aspect), becareful with that comment. ;)
why? because this site is over run with hondas?
:umno:
Care to explain why fwd is better?
Random Hero
02-12-2008, 01:56 PM
why? because this world is over run with hondas?
Fixed...lol :yes:
But I'm with ya buddy, don't think I'm trying to disagree :D
eraser4g63
02-12-2008, 01:57 PM
^^^Sorry for the rant above damn Cold medicine.^^
DieselNuts
02-12-2008, 02:02 PM
Fixed...lol :yes:
But I'm with ya buddy, don't think I'm trying to disagree :D
lol, thanks for that correction :goodjob:
It's gonna be all motor and I have a pretty limited budget. No engine swaps. ... I just dont know what platform is the best starting point for a nice, reliable DD that's quick enough to have some fun in. Thanks.Okay, let's see. All motor, reliable, and practical seem to be the order of the day so let's see.
you have $5000? Get an FC. Turbos can be had for $2000 or $3000 and they get more respect than 240s.I guess you skipped over the all motor, reliable, and daily driver part huh? First off, all motor RX-7's are pretty much garbage, especially considering his budget. Second, the rotor-bomb is far from reliable and 12MPG isn't exactly practical for daily driving. That pretty much takes care of that.
i would give up 50hp to have rwd anyday...If he were considering boost or an engine swap, I'd agree with you. However practical, all-motor KA24's are hardly worth praising and accelerate like turds. RWD is fun, yes but with what the 240 comes with here in the states, it's not a very good choice for a fun N/A platform.
Do you want FWD or RWD?
I would say Integra GSR.Practical in terms of gas mileage, great aftermarket support, and all motor? Who gives a sh*t if it's FWD? The GSR does the best to meet the requirements you've set for a car considering your initial options.
I, personally, say go Miata. You can get a sweet NA series MX-5 for under $5000. Practical, reliable, RWD, can move it's own weight, and an outstanding aftermarket support. Win.
eraser4g63
02-12-2008, 02:05 PM
^^ Rotary are not trash when they are taken care of, ( the inherent problem) but a Miata sounds like it would fit his needs to a T
^^ Rotary are not trash when they are taken care of, ( the inherent problem) but a Miata sounds like it would fit his needs to a TEven if he managed to get one that was well maintained, he'll still be getting 12-13MPG and still be a torqueless wonder. That's neither practical nor fun, obviously. lol
Turbo II's are lots of fun, but their N/A counterparts drive like crap. Considering that the OP wants to go all-motor, that kinda limits the comparison.
Kevykev
02-12-2008, 02:13 PM
Ok I'm looking to get my first import. It's gonna be all motor and I have a pretty limited budget.
Answered your own question right there.
All motor = GSR
Anything else 240
AnclyT
02-12-2008, 02:17 PM
you have 5k?
buy my 240whp s13 240sx SR20det w/t28 turbo for 5k
spank any GSR out there.
out handle them, out dorifto them, and out launch them
dumpdaccord
02-12-2008, 03:31 PM
GSRs are only fun if you have a garage and $500 plus dollar alarm...
UpSideDownDesi
02-12-2008, 04:45 PM
GS-R
Having owned a GS-R and an FC.
Go with the GS-R
FoolsDrifFWD
02-12-2008, 06:56 PM
Care to explain why fwd is better?
Cuz FR's suck
eraser4g63
02-12-2008, 07:23 PM
Even if he managed to get one that was well maintained, he'll still be getting 12-13MPG and still be a torqueless wonder. That's neither practical nor fun, obviously. lol
Turbo II's are lots of fun, but their N/A counterparts drive like crap. Considering that the OP wants to go all-motor, that kinda limits the comparison.
Touche........ You are correct.
nreggie454
02-12-2008, 07:46 PM
Cuz FR's suck
Like FF is better?
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
Also, if you get an FC, it is at least a 15 year old ROTARY powered car that you don't know the history of. Don't make that mistake.
oneswtsp1
02-12-2008, 08:48 PM
I DD a gsr and I must say that it is a great car for both the performance aspect and the NON gas guzzler fee, but there are times when I would love to have an SR or RB powered 240 to tool around in. I say it doesn't matter which way you turn you will choose a great car either choice.
KidSaru
02-13-2008, 08:14 AM
Both of those cars are overrated but if I'd choose between those two I'd go with a GSR. Why just those two though? Plenty of other options out there...
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