December 12th 2012

[JITB]

Im sure a few of you have heard of this date..and its supposed happenings on that date! i dont want to explain but i dont want to post **** i dont really know much about.. but i will anyway

december 12th 2012 is the last day on the mayan clalender...

I have heard:
The sun will burn out
The earth will stop rotation
Earth will stop rotation and go the other way.
Last day of man


do u believe????

[quickdodge®]

Where are the Mayans at today? Later, QD.

[Sammich]

i believe anthony will never have a running motor, halfbaked gave his aids to phosho, and tracy has a tool in her pantalones

[redpanda]

Im sure a few of you have heard of this date..and its supposed happenings on that date! i dont want to explain but i dont want to post **** i dont really know much about.. but i will anyway

december 12th 2012 is the last day on the mayan clalender...

I have heard:
Cloverfield


do u believe????
fixed. lol in all seriousness though, no, I don't believe

[DrewS2K]

thats the future, im worried about now

[JITB]

Where are the Mayans at today? Later, QD.
im mayan :cry:

last time someone brought this up in a group people where discussing **** for almost 3 hrs...

[DieselNuts]

Where are the Mayans at today? Later, QD.
lol!

the thing about it is, it was suppose to be the end of the world @ midnight dec. 31st, 1999, then it was suppose to end on 6-6-06 and now 12-12-2012? C'mon.......

[Echonova]

december 12th 2012 is the last day on the mayan clalender...

I have heard:
The sun will burn out
The earth will stop rotation
Earth will stop rotation and go the other way.
Last day of man


do u believe????I think physics are against the first three. We might bring about number 4 on our own. However I believe the Mayans got tired of writing the damn calendar and said, "We'll finish that later."

[Sammich]

im mayan :cry:

last time someone brought this up in a group people where discussing **** for almost 3 hrs...
so this is technically a repost?

[JITB]

thats the future, im worried about now


what about now? :ninja:

[Tracy]

Y2k :???:

[JITB]

so this is technically a repost?

no dammit that was a personal experience....

you know in RL...

[mocha latte cupcake]

i'm with echo here lol i mean HOW long ago were they writing all this down... they were like look.... ok so we're covered til 2012... something is BOUND to happen to everyone by then so i really don't think that we need to keep going its safe to say we're all screwed before than anyways... besides my hands are getting tired lol

[ironchef]

Y2.012k :(.

[JITB]

i'm with echo here lol i mean HOW long ago were they writing all this down... they were like look.... ok so we're covered til 2012... something is BOUND to happen to everyone by then so i really don't think that we need to keep going its safe to say we're all screwed before than anyways... besides my hands are getting tired lol


its only 4 years.. not too long!

[Nemesis]

And the year 2000 was going to be the second coming. RIGHT LOL

[JITB]

im sure someone has read about it, and has some facts on their brain!

[soul]

lol!

the thing about it is, it was suppose to be the end of the world @ midnight dec. 31st, 1999, then it was suppose to end on 6-6-06 and now 12-12-2012? C'mon.......
that was dumb america, going into the new era of fears and political correctness

[JITB]

are our calenders based off the mayan calender?

[Sammich]

technicalities state this is a repost...besides...the date is as bogus as mustang lovers

[Wurm]

the sun is estimated to burn out in 5 billion years

[.93lude]

are our calenders based off the mayan calender?


:stupid: i have heard about it, but doubt it will happen

[TheGodfather]

the sun is estimated to burn out in 5 billion years

****, WERE DOOMED!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sammich]

the sun is estimated to burn out in 5 billion years

WHO THE FAWK COMES UP W/ THESE CALCULATIONS...i mean...for real...who sits down and does this BS

[Wurm]

WHO THE FAWK COMES UP W/ THESE CALCULATIONS...i mean...for real...who sits down and does this BS
its not hard fool its only the a calculation at the current rate the gases are burning

[Echonova]

****, WERE DOOMED!!!!!!!!!!!You have no idea. If the sun wasn't bad enough, our galaxy and the Andromenda galaxy are going to collide in... 23 billion years if I remember right. I might be off a few years.:goodjob:

[JITB]

its not hard fool its only the a calculation at the current rate the gases are burning


what if they misplaced a few 0's?

[Nemesis]

Yousef will get laid in the year 2030.























Thats when curry robots will be invented.

[Crazy Asian]

god's gonna fart one day and light a match. Thats the end of the world

[Sammich]

its not hard fool its only the a calculation at the current rate the gases are burning

that dont answer my question..which einstein thinks...'o i know what to calculate now, let's find out how long until the sun will burn out' then calculates..i mean...:wtf:

[Wurm]

that dont answer my question..which einstein thinks...'o i know what to calculate now, let's find out how long until the sun will burn out' then calculates..i mean...:wtf:
thats why they got money

[AnthonyF]

i believe anthony will never have a running motor, halfbaked gave his aids to phosho, and tracy has a tool in her pantalones


wtf? HAHAHAH lololololol...

[ironchef]

Damn you pbs!!!!!! Your sig gets me every time lol.

[DrewS2K]

<<< heading to my underground bomb shelter aaaaaaaaahhhh

[Echonova]

that dont answer my question..which einstein thinks...'o i know what to calculate now, let's find out how long until the sun will burn out' then calculates..i mean...:wtf:The Nuker Team
http://www.noao.edu/noao/staff/lauer/nuker.html

[AnthonyF]

<<< heading to my underground bomb shelter aaaaaaaaahhhh

under ground bomb shelters are usually below us \/ \/ \/ \/

[Sammich]

Damn you pbs!!!!!! Your sig gets me every time lol.

sorry..well actually i dnt give a f*ck:boobies: :boobies:

[Killer]

i thought i over heard something on discovery saying this was supponsed to be in 05... guess i heard wrong.

[TicketRedBB6]

It'd be more believable if the numbers weren't 12-12-2012. Like someone else said with the 6-6-06 date, the world isn't gonna end because the numbers look the same.

[JITB]

It'd be more believable if the numbers weren't 12-12-2012. Like someone else said with the 6-6-06 date, the world isn't gonna end because the numbers look the same.


oh ok

[Echonova]

I guess I will explain the Mayan long count. I'll keep it brief...
The Mayan Long Count
Just some basics to get us started. The Maya were adept skywatchers. Their Classic Period is thought to have lasted from 200 A.D. to 900 A.D., but recent archeological findings are pushing back the dawn of Mayan civilization in Mesoamerica. Large ruin sites indicating high culture with distinctly Mayan antecedents are being found in the jungles of Guatemala dating back to before the common era. And even before this, the Olmec civilization flourished and developed the sacred count of 260 days known as the tzolkin. The early Maya adopted two different time keeping systems, the "Short Count" and the Long Count. The Short Count derives from combining the tzolkin cycle with the solar year and the Venus cycle of 584 days. In this way, "short" periods of 13, 52 and 104 years are generated. Unfortunately, we won't have occasion to dwell on the properties of the so-called Short Count system here. The Long Count system is somewhat more abstract, yet is also related to certain astronomical cycles. It is based upon nested cycles of days multiplied at each level by that key Mayan number, twenty:


Number of Days / Term
1 / Kin (day)

20 / Uinal

360 / Tun

7200 / Katun

144000 / Baktun

Notice that the only exception to multiplying by twenty is at the tun level, where the uinal period is instead multiplied by 18 to make the 360-day tun. The Maya employed this counting system to track an unbroken sequence of days from the time it was inaugurated. The Mayan scholar Munro Edmonson believes that the Long Count was put in place around 355 B.C. This may be so, but the oldest Long Count date as yet found corresponds to 32 B.C. We find Long Count dates in the archeological record beginning with the baktun place value and separated by dots. For example: 6.19.19.0.0 equals 6 baktuns, 19 katuns, 19 tuns, 0 uinals and 0 days. Each baktun has 144000 days, each katun has 7200 days, and so on. If we add up all the values we find that 6.19.19.0.0 indicates a total of 1007640 days have elapsed since the Zero Date of 0.0.0.0.0. The much discussed 13-baktun cycle is completed 1872000 days (13 baktuns) after 0.0.0.0.0. This period of time is the so called Mayan "Great Cycle" of the Long Count and equals 5125.36 years.

But how are we to relate this to a time frame we can understand? How does this Long Count relate to our Gregorian calendar? This problem of correlating Mayan time with "western" time has occupied Mayan scholars since the beginning. The standard question to answer became: what does 0.0.0.0.0 (the Long Count "beginning" point) equal in the Gregorian calendar? When this question is answered, archeological inscriptions can be put into their proper historical context and the end date of the 13-baktun cycle can be calculated. After years of considering data from varied fields such as astronomy, ethnography, archeology and iconography, J. Eric S. Thompson determined that 0.0.0.0.0 correponded to the Julian date 584283, which equals August 11th, 3114 B.C. in our Gregorian calendar. This means that the end date of 13.0.0.0.0, some 5125 years later, is December 21st, 2012 A.D.1

The relationship between the Long Count and Short Count has always been internally consistent (both were tracked alongside each other in an unbroken sequence since their conception). Now it is very interesting to note that an aspect of the "Short Count", namely, the sacred tzolkin count of 260 days, is still being followed in the highlands of Guatemala. As the Mayan scholar Munro Edmonson shows in The Book of the Year, this last surviving flicker of a calendar tradition some 3000 years old supports the Thompson correlation of 584283. Edmonson also states that the Long Count was begun by the Maya or pre-Maya around 355 B.C., but there is reason to believe that the Long Count system was being perfected for at least 200 years prior to that date.

The point of interest for these early astronomers seems to have been the projected end date in 2012 A.D., rather than the beginning date in 3114 B.C. Having determined the end date in 2012 (for reasons we will come to shortly), and calling it 13.0.0.0.0, they thus proclaimed themselves to be living in the 6th baktun of the Great Cycle. The later Maya certainly attributed much mythological significance to the beginning date, relating it to the birth of their deities, but it now seems certain that the placement of the Long Count hinges upon its calculated end point. Why did early Mesoamerican skywatchers pick a date some 2300 years into the future and, in fact, how did they pinpoint an accurate winter solstice? With all these considerations one begins to suspect that, for some reason, the ancient New World astronomers were tracking precession.

The Precession
The precession of the equinoxes, also known as the Platonic Year, is caused by the slow wobbling of the earth's polar axis. Right now this axis roughly points to Polaris, the "Pole Star," but this changes slowly over long periods of time. The earth's wobble causes the position of the seasonal quarters to slowly precess against the background of stars. For example, right now, the winter solstice position is in the constellation of Sagittarius. But 2000 years ago it was in Capricorn. Since then, it has precessed backward almost one full sign. It is generally thought that the Greek astronomer Hipparchus was the first to discover precession around 128 B.C. Yet scholarship indicates that more ancient Old World cultures such as the Egyptians (see Schwaller de Lubicz's book Sacred Science) and Babylonians also knew about the precession.

I have concluded that even cultures with simple horizon astronomy and oral records passed down for a hundred years or so, would notice the slow shifting of the heavens. For example, imagine that you lived in an environment suited for accurately demarcated horizon astronomy. Even if this wasn't the case, you might erect monoliths to sight the horizon position of, most likely, the dawning winter solstice sun. This position in relation to background stars could be accurately preserved in oral verse or wisdom teachings, to be passed down for centuries. Since precession will change this position at the rate of 1 degree every 72 years, within the relatively short time of 100 years or so, a noticeable change will have occurred. The point of this is simple. To early cultures attuned to the subtle movements of the sky, precession would not have been hard to notice.2

The Maya are not generally credited with knowing about the precession of the equinoxes. But considering everything else we know about the amazing sophistication of Mesoamerican astronomy, can we realistically continue to deny them this? Many of the as yet undeciphered hieroglyphs may ultimately describe precessional myths. Furthermore, as I show in my book Echonova, the man: Visionary Perspectives and Calendar Studies, the Long Count is perfectly suited for predicting future seasonal quarters, indefinitely, and precession is automatically accounted for. Some of the most incredible aspects of Mayan cosmo-conception are just now being discovered. As was the case with the state of Egyptology in the 1870's, we still have a lot to learn. In addition, Mayanists like Gordon Brotherston (The Book of the Fourth World) consider precessional knowledge among Mesoamerican cultures to be more than likely.

[AnthonyF]

^brief? jackass

[TicketRedBB6]

^brief? jackass
LOL! That stuff confuses me. Tried to read it all the way through, but :screwy:

[AnthonyF]

^ i didnt even read it. i saw brief and that was it for me.

[Echonova]

^ i didnt even read it. i saw brief and that was it for me.The last paragragh is my favorite. It's where I plug my book Fo Free!!!!!!!! :bannana:

[Echonova]

BTW: The end date of the 13-baktun cycle of the Mayan Long Count, is December 21st, 2012 A.D.

[JITB]

BTW: The end date of the 13-baktun cycle of the Mayan Long Count, is December 21st, 2012 A.D.
ur right ...whoops

[bandydesign]

Interesting read; still can't believe I read all of it tho


I just really wanna put off calc thats all :yes:

[n2daizo123]

The myans arent the only ones that say december 2012 it the end. The I Ching and Nostadamus say that too. NASA predicts a pole shift in 2012. There will also be a winter solstice in 2012. in 2012 the centre of the Galaxy is at 0 degree of the Western zodiacal sign Capricorn. 0 degree Capricorn is the point of the zodiac where the Sun is during the December solstice. At December 21, 11.12 GMT during the December solstice the Sun is at the exact centre of the Galaxy. According to the Mayas the center of the Galaxy is the cosmic womb: the place of dead, transformation, regeneration and rebirth. This moment shows the end of their calendar.

[n2daizo123]

If you have the time check this out.LINK (http://web.archive.org/web/20070307164054/http://www.incapabledesetaire.com/edito/secretwash.htm)

[gtikid]

The myans arent the only ones that say december 2012 it the end. The I Ching and Nostadamus say that too. NASA predicts a pole shift in 2012. There will also be a winter solstice in 2012. in 2012 the centre of the Galaxy is at 0 degree of the Western zodiacal sign Capricorn. 0 degree Capricorn is the point of the zodiac where the Sun is during the December solstice. At December 21, 11.12 GMT during the December solstice the Sun is at the exact centre of the Galaxy. According to the Mayas the center of the Galaxy is the cosmic womb: the place of dead, transformation, regeneration and rebirth. This moment shows the end of their calendar.

Even the bible plays on the same date, or AROUND the same date.

It is not gonna be the end of the world. It's gonna be the world entering into the next "phase". It will be the end of the "fish" (yea that fish that everyone relates to "Jesus") and will be the beginning of aquarius. In the bible, Jesus states, "I will be with you until the end of the AGE". Not the end of the world, the end of the AGE. The age of the "fish" or pisces, which is what Jesus Zodiacally (yes made up a word) represents.

Just watch the first part of the ZeitGeist movie and you'll have a better understanding of that date that people believe to be the "end of the world".

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7229401566658942356 I like the subtitles

[TicketRedBB6]

^^^Interesting stuff, never knew that.

[n2daizo123]

Hmm thats interesting. check this out.LINK (http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/MitarTarabich.html) He is the prophet Mitar Tarabich.

[JITB]

thats the same stuff i heard last time..

the poles shifting...

i knew someone had a good brain about this stuff!

[civic95]

In the bible, Jesus states, "I will be with you until the end of the AGE".

http://migration.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/christianity.jpg

[ahmonrah]

Damn you pbs!!!!!! Your sig gets me every time lol.
yes. i forgot what i was going to say. thanks to his damn sig.
there's no telling how many dudes PBS says
http://www.damnfunnypictures.com/images/Pwn_Shop.jpg

when he logs off at night.....

[Maniac1]

Im sure a few of you have heard of this date..and its supposed happenings on that date! i dont want to explain but i dont want to post **** i dont really know much about.. but i will anyway

december 12th 2012 is the last day on the mayan clalender...

I have heard:
The sun will burn out
The earth will stop rotation
Earth will stop rotation and go the other way.
Last day of man


do u believe????All those sayings are stupid as fuck. That might be the year we start world war 3... maybe? Lol

[Oz10]

No I don't believe in that. But it is funny seeing people freak out about it like Y2k. It just shows how easily brainwashed people are.

[ahmonrah]

The myans arent the only ones that say december 2012 it the end. The I Ching and Nostadamus say that too. NASA predicts a pole shift in 2012. There will also be a winter solstice in 2012. in 2012 the centre of the Galaxy is at 0 degree of the Western zodiacal sign Capricorn. 0 degree Capricorn is the point of the zodiac where the Sun is during the December solstice. At December 21, 11.12 GMT during the December solstice the Sun is at the exact centre of the Galaxy. According to the Mayas the center of the Galaxy is the cosmic womb: the place of dead, transformation, regeneration and rebirth. This moment shows the end of their calendar.with that being stated, which is WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO MENTION EARLIER PBS.........was the proposed pole shift. it's not going to be a sudden shift but more like a gradual one that we've already been noticing for years.

weather patterns changing, becoming more erratic. blah blah blah. as far as the world ending? doubtful.
the world as we know it changing ? precisely what it is.

[Maniac1]

Even the bible plays on the same date, or AROUND the same date.

It is not gonna be the end of the world. It's gonna be the world entering into the next "phase". It will be the end of the "fish" (yea that fish that everyone relates to "Jesus") and will be the beginning of aquarius. In the bible, Jesus states, "I will be with you until the end of the AGE". Not the end of the world, the end of the AGE. The age of the "fish" or pisces, which is what Jesus Zodiacally (yes made up a word) represents.

Just watch the first part of the ZeitGeist movie and you'll have a better understanding of that date that people believe to be the "end of the world".

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7229401566658942356 I like the subtitlesWhere were you in my God vs. Science thread? Lol I posted that link like 5 times! :lmao: And what you said is true, but not alot of people know that.

[gtikid]

http://migration.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/christianity.jpg

Notice the quotations I put around "Jesus" in an earlier reference :goodjob:

[On_Her_Face]

the bible does not state an exact date, however i do not believe anything major will happen on that date, but nobody knows for sure? it could be anything from a sunny day to the antichrist taking over the world

[Kelly]

I definietly think we are in the end times...

It makes me want to get as close to Jesus as possible (puts on flame suit)

[gtikid]

I definietly think we are in the end times...

It makes me want to get as close to Jesus as possible (puts on flame suit)

:lmfao: You do that, you won't be the first and you sure as hell won't be the last. End of times :lmfao: What a joke

[On_Her_Face]

I definietly think we are in the end times...

It makes me want to get as close to Jesus as possible (puts on flame suit)

sometimes i think that as well (about being closer to god and what not), i have grown away from religion in the past few years (it was the way i was raised) but i dont think i'm too far off from where i used to be

[gtikid]

the bible does not state an exact date, however i do not believe anything major will happen on that date, but nobody knows for sure? it could be anything from a sunny day to the antichrist taking over the world

Your right, nothing will happen on that day. It's not like the sun will just drop from space or blow up. It's the world going into it's next age, kinda how our years pass by here. In our years, a "world year" is about 2150 or so years, give or a take

[Kelly]

To each, his own. :dunno:

[On_Her_Face]

Your right, nothing will happen on that day. It's not like the sun will just drop from space or blow up. It's the world going into it's next age, kinda how our years pass by here. In our years, a "world year" is about 2150 or so years, give or a take

yep, i hope/doubt nothing will happen

[Kelly]

sometimes i think that as well (about being closer to god and what not), i have grown away from religion in the past few years (it was the way i was raised) but i dont think i'm too far off from where i used to be


"Religion" can be very screwy. Don't get me wrong. Having a true relationship with God is what really matters IMO.

[On_Her_Face]

"Religion" can be very screwy. Don't get me wrong. Having a true relationship with God is what really matters IMO.

agreed.

[HiPSI]

i thought at the end of the mayan calendar giant jaguars were supposed to devour the earth?

[1439/2000]

i thought at the end of the mayan calendar giant jaguars were supposed to devour the earth?


Jacksonville will probably suck again in the 2012 season.

[Got Milk?]

LOL AT THIS THREAD.

they had stuff like this for 06-06-06. BLAHH BLAHH BLAHHH