Anyone with H2B setup: ?

[SE-Rious©]

I'm just curious if anyone else has done or started on a H2B swap.

:goodjob:

[r_Senik]

helpin my homeboy with his right now..but he got the skunk2 intake manifold...it sits really high...so we had to cut the hood...but other than that..if you catch traction..its a k20 killer

[SE-Rious©]

helpin my homeboy with his right now..but he got the skunk2 intake manifold...it sits really high...so we had to cut the hood...but other than that..if you catch traction..its a k20 killer

sounds interesting what chassis the engine going into ?

:goodjob: let me know how the swap goes.

[Nang]

its wonderful

all the manifolds are gonna be high, so you have to space the hood. i think its only EK that doesn't.

EVO - gives more hood clearence
QSD - gives more ground clearence

choose one that you want to sacrifice.

[SE-Rious©]

its wonderful

all the manifolds are gonna be high, so you have to space the hood. i think its only EK that doesn't.

EVO - gives more hood clearence
QSD - gives more ground clearence

choose one that you want to sacrifice.
If i did the h2b i'd def choose more ground clearance hood issues i can deal with.but bashing oilpans in pot holes or catching a chunk of something on the highway sucks.

the 1/4 times seem impressive after checking on other forums.everyone seems pleased with doing h2b's.seems very interesting.

[Sammich]

this be a track engine or DD?

[Nang]

good, trust me, its a b!tch of a time changing em.

don't forget to grind enough from the back of the block, cuz its hell doing it when the swap is in.

[SE-Rious©]

this be a track engine or DD?

not 100% sure .. but im sure it will be more of a DD than a track vehicle.

[Vteckidd]

its a waste of time an money because most people wont do it RIGHT.

Furthermore, thae setups i have seen are halfassed and havent
1) made any power to make me think they are BETTER
2) ran any fast track times to make me think they are BETTER

than the average B series.

[SE-Rious©]

I seen a few buildups that were more positive than negative.it seems like alot of people just cut corners alot when doing it.i know it is better than your average h22 swap since there is no custom axles,no cutting for the cables.the fact the b-series tranny has more aftermarket support and it already seems better than any h-series tranny from the factory.im sure there are alot of good swaps speically if people know how to actually get their power to the ground.

[EJdm]

im also looking into doing a h2b...dont kno much yet but still working on it..good luck on yours...

[SE-Rious©]

im also looking into doing a h2b...dont kno much yet but still working on it..good luck on yours...
Thanks .. im just not finacially able to do a k-series swap yet hahahaha so why not do something interesting.I was leaning to the normal h22 swap but the h2b just really seems fun.

[b18cEG]

h2b is not a k20 killer. probably a mid to high 13 sec modd in a eg hatch. jdm itr is better.

[SE-Rious©]

I seen some nice ones .. if you know what your doing as far as tuning and actually not using a LS tranny and using shortgeared trannies with lsd then alot is possible.maybe not k20 killer ? but better than your average h22 swap.I hate the h/f-series trans,glad i havn't done a h-swap yet cause i'd sacrifice $ for a h2b kit so i wouldnt have to cut my precious EF's all up for a h/f-series trans.but everyone is titles to their own opinions .. some love their b16's some love their b18c's i just like the h22 and im glad i have a option to use a better tranny.plus not do any cutting.

[jadakid88]

pm spoolnslide iirc he was one of the first people to have this setup in ga.

[SE-Rious©]

Thanks.

[SE-Rious©]

Found alot of nice builds online,plenty of vids and the swap seems to be worth it if you know what your doing.

[SE-Rious©]

h2b is not a k20 killer. probably a mid to high 13 sec modd in a eg hatch. jdm itr is better.

mid to high 13 ? with mods
you sound like it's a bad thing
:thinking:

the h22 has equal power to that of a typeS ..
adding a b-series shortgear tranny with lsd i think is well worth it.
I agree it maynot be a k20 killer like most claim .. possibly stock with the right drivers it could be very close.but of course the k20's just prevail with very few mods and little effort their power is just way up there even after the slightest modifications.but either way the H2B set-up is something worth doing,as long as there is no cutting corners like mentioned above and if done correctly and the engine gets a few mods maybe some cams i know that it can be very quick.the h22 im sure loves a shortgear transmission.
:yes:

[TheChosenOne]

Not a Type R killer... please.

I know for a fact that a straight H22 in a hatch can beat a Type R, so you best believe a H22 with GSR or B16 tranny will squash a Type R. Traction would be the only issue.

[SE-Rious©]

Not a Type R killer... please.

I know for a fact that a straight H22 in a hatch can beat a Type R, so you best believe a H22 with GSR or B16 tranny will squash a Type R. Traction would be the only issue.

Finally someone understands the power of the h22 :goodjob:

[Nang]

H2B is gay anyways :rolleyes:

[SE-Rious©]

H2B is gay anyways :rolleyes:

:dj: haahahahha

[Nang]

lmk when you do yours, maybe you can weld the exhaust mani for me also.

[VTECxRoCKz]

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q267/jarvik721/IMG_0588.jpg
yall just wait im comin for the **** talkers

[SE-Rious©]

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q267/jarvik721/IMG_0588.jpg
yall just wait im comin for the **** talkers

what chassis are you in ? :goodjob:

[IntegraXTR]

h2b is not a k20 killer. probably a mid to high 13 sec modd in a eg hatch. jdm itr is better.

h22 + ITR tranny = K-killer

[VTECxRoCKz]

i mean **** i cant give everything away now well **** it here
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[SE-Rious©]

Looking good,i wont be teasing anyone with pics,i wont have nothing up until it's tuned and on the streets again.

[VTECxRoCKz]

u wont see it unless u know me. that hood aint poppin once it runs =P

[SE-Rious©]

have fun killing v8's

[VTECxRoCKz]

heh just keep your motor stock with stage 1 cams n u will be kkilling.. as for me i need a few extra parts to ppull my weight but u got a ef so u str8 dont spend to much money

[Nang]

Looking good,i wont be teasing anyone with pics,i wont have nothing up until it's tuned and on the streets again.

ahh nice to see another one pop up.

3 running around soon

:ninja:

[KPowerEP3]

H2B, again, is NOT a K killer, at least not in a straight line. It got that reputation because they rape, when perfectly set up, on a road course. You've got the large powerband, and "big" [for an N/A, mostly stock Honda] numbers of the K series with fewer gear changes. On a street setup, with similar mods, you're looking at neck and neck with all other things being equal [ driver skill, chassis, etc.]

Don't get me wrong, I think they're interesting, I just wanted to clear up some of the BS.

[VTECxRoCKz]

i bet i can kill K's a single cam can kill K's its all in the build no one holds the title any motor can run it

[SE-Rious©]

H2B, again, is NOT a K killer, at least not in a straight line. It got that reputation because they rape, when perfectly set up, on a road course. You've got the large powerband, and "big" [for an N/A, mostly stock Honda] numbers of the K series with fewer gear changes. On a street setup, with similar mods, you're looking at neck and neck with all other things being equal [ driver skill, chassis, etc.]

Don't get me wrong, I think they're interesting, I just wanted to clear up some of the BS.

anything is possible if you put your mind to it ! thats what school teachers use to tell us in elem. school :tongue1: hahahahahahahaha

[southside]

Not a Type R killer... please.

I know for a fact that a straight H22 in a hatch can beat a Type R, so you best believe a H22 with GSR or B16 tranny will squash a Type R. Traction would be the only issue.street tire to streettire i put my money on the R cuz my friend has a h22 in a eg and he spins with drag radials and with a shorter tranny he gone spin more

[SE-Rious©]

street tire to streettire i put my money on the R cuz my friend has a h22 in a eg and he spins with drag radials and with a shorter tranny he gone spin more
H22 all the way and with a typeR tranny the 1.8L will be put to shame sorry.

[VTECxRoCKz]

ok is this a motor race or a tire race............ motor to motor 2nd gear pull who do you think? a dig is just based on tires and the WEAKER motor aint gonna spin so it will catch traction before the STRONGER motor gets power to the ground sooooooooo i say H2B all day baby

[SE-Rious©]

1997-2001 JDM Honda Prelude SiR Type S
Compression: 11.0 :1
Displacement: 2157 cc
Power: 220 ps @ 6800 rpm
Torque: 163 lb-ft @ 5500 rpm
Redline: 7500 rpm
Bore: 87 mm
Stroke: 90.7 mm

mate this to a TypeR tranny and sorry the 1.8L will be raped.

[SE-Rious©]

Looks like there is going to be an argument about this until proven ? so i guess us H2B guys will have to prove it.I have all respect for the Spec-R engine but sorry it's not the only Honda engine that makes power !

[b17a1db2]

Looks like there is going to be an argument about this until proven ? so i guess us H2B guys will have to prove it.I have all respect for the Spec-R engine but sorry it's not the only Honda engine that makes power !

Well said.:goodjob:

[SE-Rious©]

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?p=36487562#post36487562

here is a thread made just for an arguement between b18cR and h22typeS go gander at this one.

[Batlground]

Not a Type R killer... please.

I know for a fact that a straight H22 in a hatch can beat a Type R, so you best believe a H22 with GSR or B16 tranny will squash a Type R. Traction would be the only issue.
Please stop with the generalizing :)

Look, any motor can beat any motor. Driver has alot to do with things, chassis weight, gearing, powerband, etc.

my 240whp CRX beat tons of 300-400whp turbo cars, ON THE HIGHWAY.

Kabir on here will talk about how his 190whp H22 in a EG hatch got beat by Toms 180whp STOCK ITR EG. So now does that mean the H22 sucks?

No it just means that Toms hatch had better gearing, better powerband, less weight, etc etc etc

there is no such thing as a "x" Killer.

Every setup is different and every setup performs differently. I had 190whp GSR CRX that beat TODA powered K cars years ago, so what....

Keep the E-Racing talk down. Everyone build their cars, and post videos on the kills forum :)

[southside]

ok is this a motor race or a tire race............ motor to motor 2nd gear pull who do you think? a dig is just based on tires and the WEAKER motor aint gonna spin so it will catch traction before the STRONGER motor gets power to the ground sooooooooo i say H2B all day babyhaha rolls are fun but they dont count. i dont remember them having 2nd gear pulls at the track:thinking: . digs that u think are based on tires and weak motors actually depends on driver skills, because if you a sorry driver u just a sorry driver if you a good driver then you can smoke them h2bs that people spend all they money on doing half ass jobs.Just to say they have a H:goodjob: , later southside

[SE-Rious©]

If their is an opinion on h2b's feel free to tell us in my other thread.this thread was basically asking if anyone else was going h2b,or is in the process of going h2b.you want to argue go to my other thread for this.

:goodjob:

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159947

[VTECxRoCKz]

k no more talkin cuz ill prove my point real soon im almost done with mine n i ainta bad driver =)

[VTECxRoCKz]

aye u turtle squad? this jarvik fool



haha rolls are fun but they dont count. i dont remember them having 2nd gear pulls at the track:thinking: . digs that u think are based on tires and weak motors actually depends on driver skills, because if you a sorry driver u just a sorry driver if you a good driver then you can smoke them h2bs that people spend all they money on doing half ass jobs.Just to say they have a H:goodjob: , later southside

[SE-Rious©]

h2b h2b h2b .. when mine is complete I will enjoy walking on alot of people.

[Nang]

Please stop with the generalizing :)

Look, any motor can beat any motor. Driver has alot to do with things, chassis weight, gearing, powerband, etc.

my 240whp CRX beat tons of 300-400whp turbo cars, ON THE HIGHWAY.

Kabir on here will talk about how his 190whp H22 in a EG hatch got beat by Toms 180whp STOCK ITR EG. So now does that mean the H22 sucks?

No it just means that Toms hatch had better gearing, better powerband, less weight, etc etc etc

there is no such thing as a "x" Killer.

Every setup is different and every setup performs differently. I had 190whp GSR CRX that beat TODA powered K cars years ago, so what....

Keep the E-Racing talk down. Everyone build their cars, and post videos on the kills forum :)

12 secs or faster club :rolleyes:

[OG-Skinny]

h2b h2b h2b .. when mine is complete I will enjoy walking on alot of people.

I'll race you in my 170whp EA civic. straight, turns, whenever you want to go.

[SE-Rious©]

I'll race you in my 170whp EA civic. straight, turns, whenever you want to go.

I'll only race at a track.i dont have intrest in hurting myself or others.if interested in a track then yea lets go enjoy a day .. :goodjob: when im complete with my swap.

[VTECxRoCKz]

ill race him =) start up should be this week n tuning will be a week later if runs right who is good on prices n quality on dyno/tuning? i dont want to spend a whole day on the dyno i aint rich

[SE-Rious©]

have fun on the streets hahahhaa .. .. .. .. im not about take a chance to lose my lisence,car or my life ! rather be at a track where i know 100% who won,what my speed,time and so on.I think thats the only right way to race.

[VTECxRoCKz]

nawwwwww u aint from southside if u scared to run the streets i see yall on 285 while i break in my motor

[SE-Rious©]

It's not about where i am from it's about weather or not I plan to choose a measly streetrace over my,the other driver or anyone else's life.if you want to go waste time on the streets thats fine .. as stated above real racers go to a track where it all matters.

[VTECxRoCKz]

so if i call u out one night on the STREETS u gonna back down? plz dont say what i think your going to say

[SE-Rious©]

i'll laugh.and wave !

[Tech5]

I am starting mine, as soon as I get my parts an start my project ill post pics....this is my setup so fat...95 hatch Si H2b with Built H22 ,Boost,ITR tranny...with ls final drive...looking for about 20lbs boost high an 15 lbs low, Ill show pics in a few weeks, but thought I would let you guys know that am doing this swap as well

[SE-Rious©]

well keep us posted.

[Tech5]

It will be started maybe next 2 months, be done hoepfully by nopi

[SE-Rious©]

yea mine is being built for my team/company drag car.i hope to be done very soon.i'll have a thread on the efsquad.but not until its 100% ready for comp.

[KPowerEP3]

anything is possible if you put your mind to it ! thats what school teachers use to tell us in elem. school :tongue1: hahahahahahahaha


Absolute truth. That's why I narrowed it down to similar mods, same driver skill, same chassis, traction capabilities, etc. It's all about which of the 'baller' setups you prefer: K-series or H2B. I used to own a mildly modded k20 {a3 w/ a2 head/kpro, s2 stg1 cams, I/RH/E}, in a heavy ass EP3 and honestly, I outgrew it. Too much $$ for reliable, useful power in that heavy of a car. In an EF/EG or, hell, even an EK chassis, it would have been a pretty sweet setup.

I liked the H2B setup too, I've never owned or driven one, but I knew as soon as I saw it, that it had huge...here's the kicker...POTENTIAL.

Then I realized how dumb I was, got rid of it and bought 2 cars.

[SE-Rious©]

I like the k-series .. .. .. .. it's def a very good transplant and they love mods i know that much.i still enjoy the h22 ..