Kill: Miata VS Z06

[Elbow]

So a buddy and me had a nice run last night.

First was from a 20mph roll, he got the start but I had to start in 2nd. At 3rd I started pulling hard on him. 5th I was gone by about 4 cars.

Second run was from a stop, he obviously launched harder then me, started to pull hard on him in 4th, 5th was up by around 3 cars.

Fairly good night.

His car was stock btw.

[collins]

and what the hell, might i ask, is done to yours? also what year z?

[Thighs]

was he half throttle? im calling shenanigans.

im sorry, but a miata could never beat a Z06. 105hp miata < 450hp vette.

[Elbow]

Try 300+whp Miata weighing less then 2000lbs

[Thighs]

oh. point taken lol.

whats under the hood?

[jew_boy]

damn u should have made a video

[keevo54]

gonna have to call bull **** on this one

[keevo54]

and what happened to

**** street racing, real men have balls and arent scared to go to a track.

[redrumracer]

hmmmmmmm *sniff* *sniff* i smell cow pastures, and its full of ****.

unless of course you got some goodies since the last time i seen your car.

[MachNU]

LOL i bet that would have been a funny ass race to watch! i take it your a turboed miata then!?!?!?!

[collins]

i'd still like to know what year zo6

[On_Her_Face]

i'd still like to know what year zo6

1994

[Bruce Leroy]

1994

those are the ****.

[MachNU]

lol i dont see how people dont believe this, **** the power to weight ratio is ALOT better for the maita then it is for the z06 seeing as how the miata is modded!

[On_Her_Face]

those are the ****.

i'm sorry lol z06s weren't around then you might be refering to the zr-1 or the GS


lol i dont see how people dont believe this, **** the power to weight ratio is ALOT better for the maita then it is for the z06 seeing as how the miata is modded!

i believe it can happen, p/w ratio is everything, i think that it is because he did not post what he has done to his car, or proof (video)



so i guess good kill if it is true :goodjob:

[AnthonyF]

proof or die!


if it is legit, nice kill man. :goodjob:

[Bruce Leroy]

i'm sorry lol z06s weren't around then you might be refering to the zr-1 or the GS
:

lol I was being sarcastic :D

[On_Her_Face]

lol I was being sarcastic :D

wasn't sure :lmao:

you never know with people on IA

[SicStang03]

what the hell is done to the miata

[antiv6]

damn thats a quick Miata if this is true

[Leadfoot_mf]

sounds like it happened on playstation.

[3.5altman]

^^ha, now thats funny!

[On_Her_Face]

sounds like it happened on playstation.

xbox 360 n00b..

[The Ninja]

360 is too realistic, so I'm sure it definitely happened on the ps1.

Lol, I'm kidding. Good for you if this is a real kill, but I'd still take the z06 over your miata. Just my $.02

[On_Her_Face]

360 is too realistic, so I'm sure it definitely happened on the ps1.

Lol, I'm kidding. Good for you if this is a real kill, but I'd still take the z06 over your miata. Just my $.02

lmfao+1


btw what mph were these runs?

[The Ninja]

Oh, what do you know. You gave me my 4th sparkly.

[On_Her_Face]

Oh, what do you know. You gave me my 4th sparkly.
i know i gave you your 4th sparkly (light green) lol

[UpSideDownDesi]

was this done on PS3?

[santacruz77]

lmao lmao

[SE-Rious1]

proof we want proof damnit

[JITB]

if ur makin 300hp, in a 94, with the B6... than u have to have a well built motor. or waaay to much boost. unless u swapped the 1.8? and that would be a nice build to get 300hp safely..

[ueyedgr8tness]

Simon unless u lost 55IBs,rebuilt your motor and put a turbo on your miata.I call bs.. well of course unless u were on the ps1,ps2,ps3,xbox,xbox360,comp,gameboy advance,etc

[On_Her_Face]

Simon unless u lost 55IBs,rebuilt your motor and put a turbo on your miata.I call bs.. well of course unless u were on the ps1,ps2,ps3,xbox,xbox360,comp,gameboy advance,etc

smartest thing you've ever said :D

[redrumracer]

hmmmmmmm *sniff* *sniff* i smell cow pastures, and its full of ****.

unless of course you got some goodies since the last time i seen your car.


x 2

[Elbow]

2.0 stroker, turbo, etc etc. This is NOT my red Miata.

[JITB]

i want to see it!

[ueyedgr8tness]

2.0 stroker, turbo, etc etc. This is NOT my red Miata.

nice dude :goodjob: Wait a minute did u get another car or was u driving that 1 dudes from the meet?

[coolcat]

The Miata is no joke at all, it really is scary fast.

[redrumracer]

i wanna see this miata

[Elbow]

You heard about it a while back, when I said I will have a new car at a meet, but I didn't have insurance yet. I will bring it out to the next one.

[redrumracer]

You heard about it a while back, when I said I will have a new car at a meet, but I didn't have insurance yet. I will bring it out to the next one.

then hurry up and make a new meet! and i thought you were talkin bout tommy's bmw

[Scotsman]

oh. point taken lol.

whats under the hood?probably a motor ,:lmfao:

[matthewAPM]

Try 300+whp Miata weighing less then 2000lbs

Im calling B.S. on this.

number one, u dont have a 300+ whp miata and drive it on the street. VERY few people can get a miata to have that kind of power much less drive it on the street. number 2, u dont have a miata that is turbo'd that weighs less than 2000lbs unless it is FULLY gutted. and number 3, ive driven a 280whp miata and i couldnt keep it from spinning the RACE tires in 3rd, so even if u did have this power u wouldnt catch him by 4th.

lets see, POS EF civic, then ok 1.6 miata, and now a 300+whp 1XXXlbs. vette killer. not true.

[Elbow]

That might have been the dumbest post I have ever read. I will get a scale print out of my Miata weighing below 2k.

What POS EF? Yours? What are you talking about?? :thinking:

[redrumracer]

Im calling B.S. on this.

number one, u dont have a 300+ whp miata and drive it on the street. VERY few people can get a miata to have that kind of power much less drive it on the street. number 2, u dont have a miata that is turbo'd that weighs less than 2000lbs unless it is FULLY gutted. and number 3, ive driven a 280whp miata and i couldnt keep it from spinning the RACE tires in 3rd, so even if u did have this power u wouldnt catch him by 4th.

lets see, POS EF civic, then ok 1.6 miata, and now a 300+whp 1XXXlbs. vette killer. not true.


im going to have to say that plenty of people are able to get 300+ out of a 1.8 miata. and i believe someone is doing it on stock internals.

[matthewAPM]

That might have been the dumbest post I have ever read. I will get a scale print out of my Miata weighing below 2k.

What POS EF? Yours? What are you talking about?? :thinking:

Ive seen that POS before. its crap. slowest car EVER to be on RA.

my civic would DESTROY urs anyday. what u run in urs at RA? did u even break 2mins?!

I want to see the full corner weights overall weight, day, time, and were it was done, and if the driver was in the car or not. almost all shops do it. BTW, where u get it weighed at?

i got sheets for mine, wheres urs?

[Elbow]

In my bed room ******.

You NEVER saw that Civic run at Road Atlanta you were still a little kid. I dont even own it anymore!! I have had FIVE cars since then! LMAO. Only ran that Civic there once, it was real crap, ****ing lame cage and suspension, damn stupid D15B VTEC engine, all stupid crap I tell ya.

You are the most stuck up kid I have ever seen, if my daddy was buying my **** I would be with you. We share cars, I promise I will rape you.

[matthewAPM]

In my bed room ******.

You NEVER saw that Civic run at Road Atlanta you were still a little kid. I dont even own it anymore!! I have had FIVE cars since then! LMAO. Only ran that Civic there once, it was real crap, ****ing lame cage and suspension, damn stupid D15B VTEC engine, all stupid crap I tell ya.

You are the most stuck up kid I have ever seen, if my daddy was buying my **** I would be with you. We share cars, I promise I will rape you.

ive seen ur page. LMAO. that car was a POS.

my dad buys my ****?!?! woooo, idk who the **** u think ur ****in talking to, but thats bull****. my parents gave me 1g to start out with. i worked for what i got, not given. if my **** was given to me, i wouldnt be driving a civic.

and if u think ur such a badass driver, my seat for the first event is all urs. prove urself...

[Elbow]

My page? You ever looked at the last updated bit at the bottom? How was it a POS? Because it was not all flashy painted? I built it in my driveway with a job from when I was fifteen.

How are you more of a bad ass then me?

[matthewAPM]

My page? You ever looked at the last updated bit at the bottom? How was it a POS? Because it was not all flashy painted? I built it in my driveway with a job from when I was fifteen.

How are you more of a bad ass then me?

b.c it wasnt even close to a race car. u make it out to be some B.A. ITC car when it just had a built in cage.

where did i say that? all that **** about how u drove in ALMS cars and blah blah blah...i dont see anything. if u were good enough to get from GT rides then u wouldnt be doing track days, u would be testing for sebring right now.

[Elbow]

Let me think....no....because I don't have the funds.

It was not supposed to be a bad ass ITC car. It was only going for ITC for a year I blew the motor and put a D15B VTEC in and sold it before I finished the wirng. The previous motor was bored, all that good stuff, lots of work done. It was a project, I was young paying for it myself as a starter car. So unless you know me or the car...you have no room to talk.

[Roadster]

Matt, grow up.

I've been holding my tongue about all your nutswinging on the forums, but this is the most douchebag post I've seen of yours, and you're attacking a friend of mine.

Whatever, you can drive well. So can a lot of people. If any of us got given half the opportunities you've had, we could go a long way too. Not all of us were born into a racing family. So stfu about what other people have to drive in order to get on the track.

I've been trying not to dislike you, but this has crossed the line a little bit.

[TheGodfather]

matthew youse a ***** son.

Simon is a badass driver. That mother****er got me carsick in the mountains during a mountain run, and I've never been carsick in my life.

The way he handles the car is amazing and the Gs he hit while managing to handle every turn and pull into the straight away is nothing short of amazing.

Now shut your face and move on.

[wantboost]

LOL!!!

[matthewAPM]

Matt, grow up.

I've been holding my tongue about all your nutswinging on the forums, but this is the most douchebag post I've seen of yours, and you're attacking a friend of mine.

Whatever, you can drive well. So can a lot of people. If any of us got given half the opportunities you've had, we could go a long way too. Not all of us were born into a racing family. So stfu about what other people have to drive in order to get on the track.

I've been trying not to dislike you, but this has crossed the line a little bit.

if u could only see the PMs from him. its crap.

and im talkin **** b.c its IA. i really dont care. do u get on any autocross forums? if u do, read the post. totally different. i just get on this forum and talk b.s for ****s and giggles.

damn man, i was gonna hit u up next week about some wheels/tires im getting taken off.:no:

[Elbow]

I get on autocross forums, this is IA, it funny stuff, but if you post your cocky **** over there, people may put "lol" but deep down they are wondering what kind of cocky little boy you are.

[matthewAPM]

I get on autocross forums, this is IA, it funny stuff, but if you post your cocky **** over there, people may put "lol" but deep down they are wondering what kind of cocky little boy you are.

show me where ive been cocky over there.

[Elbow]

Never said you did, but if you did act like this, I can promise nobody will like you.

[TheGodfather]

show me where ive been cocky over there.

Penis.

[matthewAPM]

Never said you did, but if you did act like this, I can promise nobody will like you.

exactly. lol...pm

[dazn]

Ive seen that POS before. its crap. slowest car EVER to be on RA.

my civic would DESTROY urs anyday. what u run in urs at RA? did u even break 2mins?!

I want to see the full corner weights overall weight, day, time, and were it was done, and if the driver was in the car or not. almost all shops do it. BTW, where u get it weighed at?

i got sheets for mine, wheres urs?

now I'm curious, what time does your civic run at RA APM? Post up your setup/setdown sheets, I'd like to see them.

[MachNU]

wow its always funny when a when someone who worked for there ****, can prove and show more than a rich kid given everything on a silver platter! :lmao:

[matthewAPM]

now I'm curious, what time does your civic run at RA APM? Post up your setup/setdown sheets, I'd like to see them.
EDIT:now i see y u want to see the setup, H.C. CRX. lol


civic, setup, lap time...umm...umm...
naa im jk. ill get all the stuff and post it up. it might take a sec.

formula BMW. nice. did u run in valencia or testing or run in the series? jw

[matthewAPM]

-Ground Control coilovers/ SPSS Valved Twin Tube adjustable Koni shocks (475/600, 500/600, 650/750)
-CRX HF front sway bar w/ poly endlinks
-All engery suspension black poly bushings
-ingalls rear camber arms
-progress 24mm infinitely adjustable rear sway bar (custom)
-GPO3 red glastic rear swaybar pillowblock mounts

i will get the settings on camber, toe, etc. up in a min. the car weighs 2037lbs. with a little to much ass. (i hate having to run above a half tank).

street tires, (dunlop Direzza DZ101?) 1:48's. on bridgestone RE-01's 1:46, kumho 710/hoosier R6 1:44's?? (havent run on them yet)

[TIGERJC]

Im calling B.S. on this.

number one, u dont have a 300+ whp miata and drive it on the street. VERY few people can get a miata to have that kind of power much less drive it on the street. number 2, u dont have a miata that is turbo'd that weighs less than 2000lbs unless it is FULLY gutted. and number 3, ive driven a 280whp miata and i couldnt keep it from spinning the RACE tires in 3rd, so even if u did have this power u wouldnt catch him by 4th.

lets see, POS EF civic, then ok 1.6 miata, and now a 300+whp 1XXXlbs. vette killer. not true.
x2

Also he use to B.itch about street racers, so I doubt he changed his mind and started racing himself

[1000cckiller]

ive seen ur page. LMAO. that car was a POS.

my dad buys my ****?!?! woooo, idk who the **** u think ur ****in talking to, but thats bull****. my parents gave me 1g to start out with. i worked for what i got, not given. if my **** was given to me, i wouldnt be driving a civic.

and if u think ur such a badass driver, my seat for the first event is all urs. prove urself...
typical response when you are busted.lol

[AlliRae]

too much drama for me to read in the morning. why don't you boys be nice or something?

[coolcat]

I WANT MOAR EPIC INTERNET SHOWDOWN F*CKERS.

[On_Her_Face]

x2

Also he use to B.itch about street racers, so I doubt he changed his mind and started racing himself

maybe it was on a private track :lmao:

[IndianStig]

Note:

Matt is a ***** and he's mad that he drives a Civic. Just go buy a wing already man!
PS. Car will be done end of this week!

Hard to believe kill, but props if true. Pics of car? Depending on where you are, i got a digi cam, i'll come take some pics if you give me a ride in this *****.

[TIGERJC]

why don't you boys be nice or something?
Fu.ck that sh.it

[WickedIXMR]

I find this really hard to believe. That zo6 driver probably sucked at driving. Im estimating this on the top of my head but im guessing the miata is a 6:1 power to weight and the vette is probably around 8:1. But the vette has awesome hwy gearing and quite frankly i dont give a fu.ck what your gay miata thinks but the zo6 is just much more superior than a miata END OF STORY!

/Thread
PS im just bored so dont get all butt hurt

[Doppelgänger]

^^^ You'd be suprised what a 300rwhp Miata can do. The one thing it can't do is go faster then 140mph lol.

Simon, is this a red NA with flares?? If so.. .that thing is no joke.
There is also a 2.0 swapped Miata running around Atlanta somewhere.


I got me a new little turbo Miata too...hehehe.

[matthewAPM]

^^^ You'd be suprised what a 300rwhp Miata can do. The one thing it can't do is go faster then 140mph lol.

Simon, is this a red NA with flares?? If so.. .that thing is no joke.
There is also a 2.0 swapped Miata running around Atlanta somewhere.


I got me a new little turbo Miata too...hehehe.

no its not that car. ur thinking of the one with rotas and a hardtop. yeah that thing is sick. i have no doubt that the car u are talking about would beat a stock Z06.

[Doppelgänger]

then who's damn Miata are we talking about?!?! lol Spill it Simon (or PM me)

[iloveboost]

Modded Miata vs. modded Z06? Any takers? :D

[JITB]

this name game is ridiculious.. can we get information on this mysterious miata!!

[matthewAPM]

found one...http://www.metacafe.com/watch/561740/fastest_turbo_miata_drag_race_dyno_1_4_mile/

not street legal or from around here but still cool

[iloveboost]

found one...http://www.metacafe.com/watch/561740/fastest_turbo_miata_drag_race_dyno_1_4_mile/
So you found a random video of a fast Miata on the internet?

BRB, going to find an 8sec Z06 video. :rolleyes:

[matthewAPM]

So you found a random video of a fast Miata on the internet?

BRB, going to find an 8sec Z06 video. :rolleyes:

there is a ton of vettes that fast. and yes it is a random video.

but if u were paying any attention u would have noticed that the first post was a STOCK vette vs. turbo miata

[Doppelgänger]

^^ I've seen street legal Miatas that run fast... but not that fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCn2bxl0tDE

[matthewAPM]

^^ I've seen street legal Miatas that run fast... but not that fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCn2bxl0tDE

dang. now thats power:weight right there.

all these miata videos make me want mine back:cry:

[Leadfoot_mf]

2.0 stroker, turbo, etc etc. This is NOT my red Miata.
whos was it? i know of a lots of 300+ hp miatas.

[Leadfoot_mf]

I find this really hard to believe. That zo6 driver probably sucked at driving. Im estimating this on the top of my head but im guessing the miata is a 6:1 power to weight and the vette is probably around 8:1. But the vette has awesome hwy gearing and quite frankly i dont give a fu.ck what your gay miata thinks but the zo6 is just much more superior than a miata END OF STORY!

/Thread
PS im just bored so dont get all butt hurt

you have a very valid point. :goodjob:

[Leadfoot_mf]

lol at mike the defender of the miata.

[Doppelgänger]

nah, just throwing in a couple ideas to show its plausible.

But then again... what do i know.....

Tim, looking for any Miata supension parts?

[dazn]

EDIT:now i see y u want to see the setup, H.C. CRX. lol


civic, setup, lap time...umm...umm...
naa im jk. ill get all the stuff and post it up. it might take a sec.

formula BMW. nice. did u run in valencia or testing or run in the series? jw


I was a technician for a BMW team in 05 and then lead mechanic for another in 06. that picture is from a test day at VIR in 05, we were done for the day so I wanted a picture to send to my parents since they still have no idea what I do. besides Im too old for that series anyways, but those cars are great all around.


is yours similar to an ITA setup? if so 44s are definitely possible with the R6's.

[matthewAPM]

I was a technician for a BMW team in 05 and then lead mechanic for another in 06. that picture is from a test day at VIR in 05, we were done for the day so I wanted a picture to send to my parents since they still have no idea what I do. besides Im too old for that series anyways, but those cars are great all around.


is yours similar to an ITA setup? if so 44s are definitely possible with the R6's.

it is pretty much a ITA car without the diff and an interior. but the interior is around the same weight as a cage and the diff is only needed for T7.

[Julio]

lol. At the end of the day, is still a Miata...

[198plus]

Finally someone with a brain :D
I find this really hard to believe. That zo6 driver probably sucked at driving. Im estimating this on the top of my head but im guessing the miata is a 6:1 power to weight and the vette is probably around 8:1. But the vette has awesome hwy gearing and quite frankly i dont give a fu.ck what your gay miata thinks but the zo6 is just much more superior than a miata END OF STORY!

/Thread
PS im just bored so dont get all butt hurt

[Doppelgänger]

At least it's known that guys driving Miatas are not overcompensating for their shortcomings ;)

[coolcat]

It's a trap!!

http://159.54.226.19/assetpool/images/07526234124_ackbar.gif

[iloveboost]

At least it's known that guys driving Miatas are not overcompensating for their shortcomings ;)
What are you talking about? You drive a girl's car!

One day, when you're driving along and a car full of 14-year-old girls are gawking at your car in amazement you will realize how gay your car is.

[onebadgt]

What are you talking about? You drive a girl's car!

One day, when you're driving along and a car full of 14-year-old girls are gawking at your car in amazement you will realize how gay your car is.


:lmfao: ^^^lol

[Doppelgänger]

Wait a second.....how would a car full of girls looking at my car make it gay?? That makes no sense to your argument....lol

[iloveboost]

Wait a second.....how would a car full of girls looking at my car make it gay?? That makes no sense to your argument....lol
Emphasis on 14-year-old girls foaming at the mouth to drive your car once they are able to get their learner's permit. There's a difference.

[Doppelgänger]

So you're still saying that Miatas attract girls. Once their old enough to drive.......... they're old enough to..........










One day people will realize that i use IA just to **** off and entertain my boredom :bannana:

[iloveboost]

Girl's thought process:

"Oooh, a Miata. That's a cute car. I'd consider talking to him but he's probably gay."

"Oooh, a Corvette. That's a nice car. I'd like to drop the panties for that guy!"

All kidding aside, I asked a female co-worker what she thought of this car.

http://images.automotive.com/reviews/images/96miata.jpg

Her reply was, "Queer. Like the guy driving it."

I'm not even kidding.

[Doppelgänger]

oh yeah.. that guy is definitely gay... look at the receding hair line and the aviator glasses. Not to mention that guy paid for a top of the line model and didn't even get a car with LSD.....but it came with leather :rolleyes: Leather seat in a sports car = :gay:



You guys should know im not really serious with what i post......haha (except for whats written above this....its very true)

[Z U L8R]

miata vs 510 , power to weight? ^.-

[Julio]

At least it's known that guys driving Miatas are not overcompensating for their shortcomings ;)


haha... Ask one of your EX gf... She was spelling Jerusalem...

[santacruz77]

lolol

[Elbow]

miata vs 510 , power to weight? ^.-

:gay:

And of course that black Miata is gay. I will even say that. Look at him. I drive a Miata..knowing I am so confident in my **** size and bein straight that I can drive a gay car. You all are just scared to drive one and be in the open like that. Being scared to drive such a tiny car means..... :yes:


;)

[On_Her_Face]

:gay:

And of course that black Miata is gay. I will even say that. Look at him. I drive a Miata..knowing I am so confident in my **** size and bein straight that I can drive a gay car. You all are just scared to drive one and be in the open like that. Being scared to drive such a tiny car means..... :yes:


;)


ya you're right, i'm afraid to drive a miata.. :lmfao:




















































they have too much power for me

[iloveboost]

Actually, I'd be open to racing a Miata if that's what I had to work with. But I don't.

And seriously, this is all in fun. I can respect the car for what it is. It's just not my cup of tea.

[Doppelgänger]

And seriously, this is all in fun. I can respect the car for what it is. It's just not my cup of tea.

X2 about my 'Vett comments. :yes:

[chituntang]

If your Miata has a stock trans, your max speed is like 120. I was messing around with my friend on 185 once and he was chasing me. He told me his Miata is driving 115 on 6k+ rpm. So if the Z06 cannot left you dust on 4th gear, he is not racing you, assuming he is supposed to go like at least 140+.

Yes power to ratio is important, but your car can only go 120. So you only shorten your 0 to 120 time, but not increasing your top speed.

[JITB]

If your Miata has a stock trans, your max speed is like 120. I was messing around with my friend on 185 once and he was chasing me. He told me his Miata is driving 115 on 6k+ rpm. So if the Z06 cannot left you dust on 4th gear, he is not racing you, assuming he is supposed to go like at least 140+.

Yes power to ratio is important, but your car can only go 120. So you only shorten your 0 to 120 time, but not increasing your top speed.
says the mad scientist!!
http://lilashley_16.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jesse.jpg

[Doppelgänger]

If your Miata has a stock trans, your max speed is like 120. I was messing around with my friend on 185 once and he was chasing me. He told me his Miata is driving 115 on 6k+ rpm. So if the Z06 cannot left you dust on 4th gear, he is not racing you, assuming he is supposed to go like at least 140+.

Yes power to ratio is important, but your car can only go 120. So you only shorten your 0 to 120 time, but not increasing your top speed.

Stock Miatas are limited to ~120mph by aerodynamics. I have seen my speedo at 135 only to be stopped by hitting fuel cut. That was on my old car with a 4.30 rear end. I later went to a 4.10 and saw the speed-o a bit north of 140. Now a 6-spd miata will go ~155 with the stock 3.9 rear, but if you were to swap that to a 3.62 (and had the power) 160+ is attainable.... not that you'd see it on the speed-o because it stops at 150 lol.

But Miatas are very capable of goign faster then 120. You friends Miata was stock.

[matthewAPM]

i love how everyone hates on the miata, yet they cant keep up with one on a track...

but your right, 122 in my miata and it was on the limiter...

[Elbow]

Actually, I'd be open to racing a Miata if that's what I had to work with. But I don't.

And seriously, this is all in fun. I can respect the car for what it is. It's just not my cup of tea.

I know, nothing personal :goodjob: Miatas are FUN track cars.

[matthewAPM]

I know, nothing personal :goodjob: Miatas are FUN track cars.

one of the most fun cars to drive...atleast for the money.

u running the first PDX?

[Elbow]

At Road Atlanta? Yessir I believe, when is it again? Reg. open yet?

[matthewAPM]

At Road Atlanta? Yessir I believe, when is it again? Reg. open yet?

yeah at RA. It is like Febuary something. IDK. its already on DLBracing.

Im already registered! (btw, i wont be in the civic...:ninja:)

[Elbow]

Yeah I will be there

[redrumracer]

whats all this talk about limiters on miata's??? mine doesnt have any limiters, except for aerodynamics and power of course (someone try to prove me wrong and ill reprove you wrong :) )

[Elbow]

yeah at RA. It is like Febuary something. IDK. its already on DLBracing.

Im already registered! (btw, i wont be in the civic...:ninja:)

Registered :goodjob: :goodjob:

What will you be in

[matthewAPM]

whats all this talk about limiters on miata's??? mine doesnt have any limiters, except for aerodynamics and power of course (someone try to prove me wrong and ill reprove you wrong :) )

it runs out of gearing?? 5th gear has to top out at some point??

simon...(e36 m3)

[Elbow]

sweet

[matthewAPM]

sweet

payments...:(

[Z U L8R]

Originally Posted by Z U L8R
miata vs 510 , power to weight? ^.-





:gay:

And of course that black Miata is gay. I will even say that. Look at him. I drive a Miata..knowing I am so confident in my **** size and bein straight that I can drive a gay car. You all are just scared to drive one and be in the open like that. Being scared to drive such a tiny car means..... :yes:


;)

what's :gay:about ur miata vs my 72 510? it's apples and apples, both are light cars that can handle and have 4 cylinders, hell, mine's a 4 door! :D

Dave :goodjob:

[santacruz77]

lol simon doesnt think 510s are gay.

i havnt seen yours pics please!!!!! i want a wagon

[matthewAPM]

Originally Posted by Z U L8R
miata vs 510 , power to weight? ^.-






what's :gay:about ur miata vs my 72 510? it's apples and apples, both are light cars that can handle and have 4 cylinders, hell, mine's a 4 door! :D

Dave :goodjob:

stock for stock? if not...bye bye miata

[OnURleft]

I really want to own a 510. Dave i'm jealous

[matthewAPM]

I really want to own a 510. Dave i'm jealous

there is a really nice one that autocrosses in the atlanta region. those things like to be sideways

[OnURleft]

there is a really nice one that autocrosses in the atlanta region. those things like to be sideways

I'll stick with Miata to autox. I want a 510 with an M50,280z or 13B swap + turbo

[matthewAPM]

I'll stick with Miata to autox. I want a 510 with an M50,280z or 13B swap + turbo

hmm...trade for M3?

2JZ 510 y0. lol. imma PM u the other cars im looking at...

[redrockets13]

there's l28's in 510's thus there can be 2jz's in 510's....however this beast is just a wimpy ka ^_^, should run low 10's with 450rwhp tho...got traction?

[SicStang03]

payments...:(


Ya, payments suck.... when daddy pays them:D

















LOL... just trying to keep this thread going

[matthewAPM]

Ya, payments suck.... when daddy pays them:D

















LOL... just trying to keep this thread going

man i ask him everyday. its on me.

a miata would beat a vette at road atlanta...

[Lankhoss]

man i ask him everyday. its on me.

a miata would beat a vette at road atlanta...

Hmmm? Vettes own at Road Atlanta (any road course, actually)

[santacruz77]

ya id have to agree i know miatas are the **** but a stock miata is not beating a stock vette at road atlanta.

[Elbow]

Yeah stock for stock I will say the Vette would win, but not much mods the Miata would eat it alive in corners.

[matthewAPM]

spec miata vs stock vette...spec miata>vette

[Doppelgänger]

what times do stock Vettes run at RA?

[matthewAPM]

slow. like most ive seen are around 1:46-1:50.

[blackbeast99]

Yeah stock for stock I will say the Vette would win, but not much mods the Miata would eat it alive in corners.

Are you serious? In terms of what? Entering speed, exiting speed, or not hitting the brakes at all because you don't carry enough speed through the turn?

[santacruz77]

lol at you.

[198plus]

Someone needs to lay off the CRACK PIPE :D This thread is hilarious :lmfao:

[Lankhoss]

ya id have to agree i know miatas are the **** but a stock miata is not beating a stock vette at road atlanta.

Ha ha....have you even driven a Vette before?

[Thighs]

Are you serious? In terms of what? Entering speed, exiting speed, or not hitting the brakes at all because you don't carry enough speed through the turn?

miata + intake/exhaust + good suspension + good tires = faster than any stock vette at RA. and STILL alot cheaper.

[Lankhoss]

miata + intake/exhaust + good suspension + good tires = faster than any stock vette at RA. and STILL alot cheaper.

Uh...negative. It'd take a LOT more than an intake and exhaust to keep up with a Vette. You put slicks on any car and it's gonna handle like crazy, but a Vette is good enough in the turns - stock - that it'd be able to stay ahead of a Miata around the track.

And was this discussion about which was faster around RA, or which was cheaper?

[Thighs]

Uh...negative. It'd take a LOT more than an intake and exhaust to keep up with a Vette. You put slicks on any car and it's gonna handle like crazy, but a Vette is good enough in the turns - stock - that it'd be able to stay ahead of a Miata around the track.

And was this discussion about which was faster around RA, or which was cheaper?

you think so? youre wrong. vettes are good in corners, but theres this little detail called weight. and miatas dont have any. have you ever seen a spec miata? all they have is intake, evhaust, suspension, and no interior. the cage makes up for most of the weight of the interior, so theres not a big advantage there. and they arent on slicks, they are only allowed to run on DOT approved tires, and thats only on a regional level. nationally they are only allowed to run on toyo RA-1s.

and it doesnt matter whether its about faster or cheaper, the miata is both of those.

[Lankhoss]

you think so? youre wrong. vettes are good in corners, but theres this little detail called weight. and miatas dont have any. have you ever seen a spec miata? all they have is intake, evhaust, suspension, and no interior. the cage makes up for most of the weight of the interior, so theres not a big advantage there. and they arent on slicks, they are only allowed to run on DOT approved tires, and thats only on a regional level. nationally they are only allowed to run on toyo RA-1s.

and it doesnt matter whether its about faster or cheaper, the miata is both of those.

Yes, I've seen those.......and they f'in suck. MAYBE around a small track that is nothing but turns, but there are way too many straights at RA, it is a high speed course.

[03CobraAV8R]

A spec Miata is not faster around Road Atlanta than a Z06 - it just isn't, I have seen quite a few running up there mixed in with various other relatively slow cars, and the spec Miata seems to always be running quite a bit slower than the majority - for example, lightly modded Mini Cooper-S' were running faster lap times. I didn't make it that way, it's just the way it is. I'm sure they're great fun though, especially for the price.

For example, here's some video from Willow Springs of a spec Miata - terrible handling - extremely slow. Check 5:40 for a yellow Evo that walks by him - and a Z06 at ~8:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j16jvJnYk5U

[Thighs]

^^ i appreciate your not-so-elitist stance... lol. if the stock zo6 is on stock tires, it has no chance. but on equal tires, its a little diffierent... lol

[03CobraAV8R]

^^ i appreciate your not-so-elitist stance... lol. if the stock zo6 is on stock tires, it has no chance. but on equal tires, its a little diffierent... lol
Hehe, I don't think so, even if the Miata could be faster through the turns, the Z would just destroy it on the straights, and would most likely run several seconds a lap faster.

[Thighs]

Hehe, I don't think so, even if the Miata could be faster through the turns, the Z would just destroy it on the straights, and would most likely run several seconds a lap faster.

the miata would be far enough ahead before te back straight to keep the lead. im not saying it would be a HUGE lead, but maybe .5-1 sec

[Thighs]

A spec Miata is not faster around Road Atlanta than a Z06 - it just isn't, I have seen quite a few running up there mixed in with various other relatively slow cars, and the spec Miata seems to always be running quite a bit slower than the majority - for example, lightly modded Mini Cooper-S' were running faster lap times. I didn't make it that way, it's just the way it is. I'm sure they're great fun though, especially for the price.

For example, here's some video from Willow Springs of a spec Miata - terrible handling - extremely slow. Check 5:40 for a yellow Evo that walks by him - and a Z06 at ~8:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j16jvJnYk5U

lawl thats not a spec miata... this is.

this vid might suck though. i cant watch them so idk.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rkRkQ1UMnIo

[OnURleft]

Hehe, I don't think so, even if the Miata could be faster through the turns, the Z would just destroy it on the straights, and would most likely run several seconds a lap faster.

First off, what we are talking about is a PERFECT lap, with no mistakes and pro times. What holds any "street car" back is the lack of predictability, lack of pads, lack of tires that can deal with the heat and the fact that if your running balls out your street tires are going to shred them up and your brakes would be done after 3 laps. Now with a instructor/pro driver its easy to do that perfect lap despite that, so if you lined them up this is what I think based on my experience....


So...coming from someone who has tooled around in both and has instructor friends with one or both...the Spec Miata on R comps would give the C6z a nice run for its money. What most of you will learn if you get in Motorsports is how little the straight line factor plays in your overall time. The Vette is slightly faster , but the Miata is easier to go flat out in and your going to have way more fun in it as long as you want. Even with the pads the brakes on the Z06 are inadequate for anything as long as a spec race. Also, I'd give the spec Miata the edge over the C5 but I would be suprised if it was more than a second. Dot Approved tires on a spec Miata can get you to 1:42-1:43 and you'd be running similar or slightly faster in a C6z for that single digit amount of laps you get in before the brakes and tires give ..but we're comparing a spec car to a stock car so thats pretty damn good I.M.O. for the Vette.


A spec Miata is not faster around Road Atlanta than a Z06 - it just isn't, I have seen quite a few running up there mixed in with various other relatively slow cars, and the spec Miata seems to always be running quite a bit slower than the majority - for example, lightly modded Mini Cooper-S' were running faster lap times. I didn't make it that way, it's just the way it is. I'm sure they're great fun though, especially for the price.

For example, here's some video from Willow Springs of a spec Miata - terrible handling - extremely slow. Check 5:40 for a yellow Evo that walks by him - and a Z06 at ~8:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j16jvJnYk5U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j16jvJnYk5U)

haha. Almost. Spec Miata's have hard tops, full cages, no interior and that one just looks far from spec based on what i'm watching. My guess is thats a guy just doing a D.E as he's in no suit and is going D.E speed in a D.E like Miata

[Lankhoss]

lawl thats not a spec miata... this is.

this vid might suck though. i cant watch them so idk.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rkRkQ1UMnIo

Those are all Miatas racing each other. What times do you usually turn at RA with a Spec Miata?

[Thighs]

Those are all Miatas racing each other. What times do you usually turn at RA with a Spec Miata?

no **** theyre all miatas... thats what spec miata is.

does ANYBODY except me and m5 know wtf theyre talking about?

spec miatas run between 1:40 and 1:45 if theyre even close to being competitive.

[198plus]

You need to check out this its called ZO6 101 watch and learn. Also has them at Road Atlanta :blah: :blah: :blah:

http://www.leechvideo.com/video/view2821938.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiA7vVydWaQ


the miata would be far enough ahead before te back straight to keep the lead. im not saying it would be a HUGE lead, but maybe .5-1 sec

[JITB]

whatever car that ur most familiar with will always be better.. so both sides... shut up

[On_Her_Face]

Z06 around nurburg = 7.43
miata = 10+ minutes
Zonda type S = 7.44

theres a small comparison and as you can tell miata ftw.

[OnURleft]

Z06 around nurburg = 7.43
miata = 10+ minutes
Zonda type S = 7.44

theres a small comparison and as you can tell miata ftw.


oh snap. now someone's brought a stock miata and the ring into the arguement. That course has no straight aways...

[On_Her_Face]

and as you can tell the miata has no powa!

[OnURleft]

and as you can tell the miata has no powa!

and all you need is power on a road course...:no:

[On_Her_Face]

and all you need is power on a road course...:no:
well the z06 has some power and leaf springs :yes:

[OnURleft]

well the z06 has some power and leaf springs :yes:

haha power is nice. It def. does more with less..if you ignore displacement. Someone was comparing a street car to a spec car so thats an achievement I think is amazing.

[198plus]

Good work Billy :goodjob: That's funny you could get a quikie :D and a smoke then run that piece of **** down, Now thats :idb: slow !!!!! :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:
Z06 around nurburg = 7.43
miata = 10+ minutes
Zonda type S = 7.44

theres a small comparison and as you can tell miata ftw.

[On_Her_Face]

lol

[Z U L8R]

ronnie i can't watch those two links for too long, or it makes me want a z06 =[

[Lankhoss]

no **** theyre all miatas... thats what spec miata is.

does ANYBODY except me and m5 know wtf theyre talking about?

spec miatas run between 1:40 and 1:45 if theyre even close to being competitive.

Well what good is a video with nothing but the one car, in this debate??

The only useful thing you have mentioned is the time around the track. And I would guess that 1:40 is doable by a C6Z, and 1:45 would be about average. My guess is a C5Z wouldn't be far behind that.

I don't think there's anyway a stock C5 Coupe could run those times, but I'd imagine a C6 Couple could break 1:50. 1:40 - 1:45 is a better time than I had expected. I was making my original post based on what I've seen at RA....and I've seen stripped Miatas getting pwned by everything else.

Also, I may have gotten confused on what a "spec" Miata is. I believe you said an intake/exhaust, suspension and tire upgrade Miata would run with a stock Corvette, and I assumed that's what a "Spec" Miata was. So if it's not, then I apologize for basing my judgements against a different car than what you were refering to.

[Lankhoss]

ronnie i can't watch those two links for too long, or it makes me want a z06 =[

Well, anyone who has driven a Z06 knows why they call it the best bargain in the WORLD!

Think I'll take noted magazines' opinions over some kids in a forum :)

[Z U L8R]

i love how the top gear guy gets to drift the **** outta it :goodjob:

you guys (zo6 guys) are what makes me push and push my datsun/nissans. +5 to some very worthy opponents. as i've said in person to you guys. it takes a lot of cahones for an import to hang with ya, but you guys are fast as hell out of the factory.

i don't see it as a "fair" race to bring a full out raced out (or riced out lol) heavily modded import and barely lose (yet still lose) to a bone stock Z06, then say i give the import a lot of credit for losing by a little.....

it's apples and oranges.

it'd be "fair" or "rep worthy" race if BOTH cars were stock, or both cars were heavily modded. but putting da govanaaahhh on steroids import vs a bone stock mullet driving sports car then thinking you did something fantastic is self deception lol

if my heavily modded import beats a heavily modded domestic, then i'm happy and it was fair. but if my heavily modded import walks by a bone stock lamborgini mercielago or a stock Z06 it feels good to know i'm faster, but it's a reality check when they come back at me with bpu's or with 1 mod.....NITROUS and kick my imports ****in ass ROFL HAHAHAHA.

frankly, you can't take anything away from z06's. they're bad ass cars. if you say otherwise, you're in denial.

it'll always be the import vs domestic, but saying a suped up car is better than a bone stock car is not a fair comparison.
just my .02


Dave =]

[Z U L8R]

import vs domestic rofl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo5q4mFePk0

not bad for a 3 liter :D

[bigdare23]

import vs domestic rofl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo5q4mFePk0

not bad for a 3 liter :D


:lmfao:

[mazda/nissan]

i can see this thread is way past post-mortum, however i must provide the evidence i heard so many mullet heads begging for

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0c691536-51a5-4e44-93ac-9a2300074880.htm